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    1. Re: [NORCAL] Insane?
    2. Judith Welch
    3. He probably wanted a younger wife. Did he remarry? Judith ________________________________ From: "scrapsbratt@aol.com" <scrapsbratt@aol.com> To: norcal@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, May 27, 2010 8:02:09 PM Subject: [NORCAL] Insane? I have been trying to determine the cause of my ggrandmother's "affliction" for several years. She was first adjudged insane in 1882 and sent to Napa. She was returned home in 1885 and, adjudged still insane, sent to Stockton where she died in 1912. In the Trinity County Court house, I found the Superior Court Ledger that stated my ggrandfather, George Vitzthum, swore that his wife, Theresa, was "insane, and by reason of such insanity dangerous to be at large". A warrant was signed for her arrest. Family "story" says that she went insane by having too many children too fast (11). It could have been menopause, post-partem, or just plain "don't touch me". I find it interesting that the signing Judge was a relative my marriage (T.E. Jones). In any case, I have never been able to discover what made ggrandfather decide that she was insane and/or dangerous. Still looking.... Betty ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/27/2010 02:48:03
    1. Re: [NORCAL] Insane?
    2. Betty Loose
    3. No. They remained married until his death a year before hers. > He probably wanted a younger wife. Did he remarry? > Judith > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "scrapsbratt@aol.com" <scrapsbratt@aol.com> > To: norcal@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, May 27, 2010 8:02:09 PM > Subject: [NORCAL] Insane? > > > > > I have been trying to determine the cause of my ggrandmother's > "affliction" for several years. > She was first adjudged insane in 1882 and sent to Napa. She was > returned home in 1885 and, adjudged still insane, sent to Stockton > where she died in 1912. > > In the Trinity County Court house, I found the Superior Court Ledger > that stated my ggrandfather, George Vitzthum, swore that his wife, > Theresa, was "insane, and by reason of such insanity dangerous to be > at large". A warrant was signed for her arrest. Family "story" says > that she went insane by having too many children too fast (11). It > could have been menopause, post-partem, or just plain "don't touch > me". I find it interesting that the signing Judge was a relative my > marriage (T.E. Jones). > > In any case, I have never been able to discover what made > ggrandfather decide that she was insane and/or dangerous. Still > looking.... > > > Betty > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

    05/28/2010 01:41:23
    1. Re: [NORCAL] Insane?
    2. ROLAND ELLIOTT
    3. Damn I never thought of the "younger Bride" approach. On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 7:41 AM, Betty Loose <betty@unisette.com> wrote: > No. They remained married until his death a year before hers. > > > > He probably wanted a younger wife. Did he remarry? > > Judith > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: "scrapsbratt@aol.com" <scrapsbratt@aol.com> > > To: norcal@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Thu, May 27, 2010 8:02:09 PM > > Subject: [NORCAL] Insane? > > > > > > > > > > I have been trying to determine the cause of my ggrandmother's > > "affliction" for several years. > > She was first adjudged insane in 1882 and sent to Napa. She was > > returned home in 1885 and, adjudged still insane, sent to Stockton > > where she died in 1912. > > > > In the Trinity County Court house, I found the Superior Court Ledger > > that stated my ggrandfather, George Vitzthum, swore that his wife, > > Theresa, was "insane, and by reason of such insanity dangerous to be > > at large". A warrant was signed for her arrest. Family "story" says > > that she went insane by having too many children too fast (11). It > > could have been menopause, post-partem, or just plain "don't touch > > me". I find it interesting that the signing Judge was a relative my > > marriage (T.E. Jones). > > > > In any case, I have never been able to discover what made > > ggrandfather decide that she was insane and/or dangerous. Still > > looking.... > > > > > > Betty > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > > ----------------------------------------- > > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > NORCAL@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > > ----------------------------------------- > > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > NORCAL@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/28/2010 01:54:52
    1. Re: [NORCAL] Insane?
    2. Susan D Slade Grossl
    3. I guess I'm the one out of the norm here. I did not have an Aunt, or other female relative, but rather a Great Uncle of my Grandfathers who was locked up. His business failed and he apparently had a hard time dealing with it. He was "accidentally" scalded to death in a bath by one of the attendants. There was a big investigation over it and it made the papers. Susan Boise, Idaho, USA

    05/28/2010 03:09:16
    1. Re: [NORCAL] Insane?
    2. AO.Berry
    3. > No. They remained married until his death a year before hers. Payback is hell!!! Armendine

    05/28/2010 03:37:10