Lars, May I ask if Elder is a common name in Germany? The reason I ask is that here in Sacramento we had a prominent family named El;ser also, not your Elder, they were in Sacramento in the 1870's, in fact we have an area of So. Sacramento called Elder Creek. I know, there are those of you who believe Elder Creek is named after the Elderberry but it was actually after the Elder family.  marilyn ________________________________ From: Lars Oyane <loya@online.no> To: norcal@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 8:59 AM Subject: [NORCAL] Howard Morton Elder, born FL 1876 - in California 1920 - what became of him? - CADI? Dear Listers, I wish to share with you today what may appear as a tragic family quarrel: Ferdinand Elder, a highly reputed lawyer, and his wife Caroline nee Emerson were married in MN in 1875, and following a short stay in Duval Co.,. FL they lived for many years in MN before moving to WA, ending up in Tacoma, WA.  Ferdinand Elder died in 1915, and by then his oldest son was apparently "dead" to his parents: Howard Morton ELDER was born in Duval Co., FL Sep. 1, 1876.  He grew up with his parents in MN and accompanied them in the late 1880's to WA.  However, some time in the early 1890's he appears to have left home to work on the railroad.  He married a 1st time in La Crosse, WI in 1897 to Clara Mathilda Nelson of Norwegian extraction.  They had one son, and then about 1902 they were divorced.  Shortly thereafter Howard remarried a Florence NN from MN and moved to Yuma, AZ where by 1910 he had become a saloon keeper (Dear Listers, I wish to share with you today what may appear as a tragic family quarrel: Ferdinand Elder, a highly reputed lawyer, and his wife Caroline nee Emerson were married in MN in 1875, and following a short stay in Duval Co.,. FL they lived for many years in MN before moving to WA, ending up in Tacoma, WA.  Ferdinand Elder died in 1915, and by then his oldest son was apparently "dead" to his parents: Howard Morton ELDER was born in Duval Co., FL Sep. 1, 1876.  He grew up with his parents in MN and accompanied them in the late 1880's to WA.  However, some time in the early 1890's he appears to have left home to work on the railroad.  He married a 1st time in La Crosse, WI in 1897 to Clara Mathilda Nelson of Norwegian extraction.  They had one son, and then about 1902 they were divorced.  Shortly thereafter Howard remarried Florence NN from MN, and they moved to Yuma, AZ where by 1910 Howard had become a saloon keeper (http://interactive.ancestry.com/7884/31111_4327231-00146/341155?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3d1910USCenIndex%26indiv%3dtry%26h%3d341155&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord).  The WW1 draft record shows him residing in San Bernardino Co., CA, then married to Alma, but by 1920 he was widowed, a resident of Trona, San Bernardino Co., CA (http://interactive.ancestry.com/6061/4293834-00600/81931585?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancest! ry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3d1920usfedcen%26h%3d81931585%26indiv%3dtry%26o_vc%3dRecord%253aOtherRecord%26rhSource%3d6482&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord). That's the last I see of him!  Can you listers please hep this Norwegian relative of Howard's 1st wife Clara Nelson find out: * What is really Howard Elder's occupation at Trona, CA in 1920? * And, can Howard's death record be found in the CADI after 1920? * Or, does anyone have any suggestions what may have become of Howard Elder after 1920?  After all he was only 43 years old at the time... Thanks a million in advance for any assistance you can possible give me in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane Geilo, Norway/Bavaria, Germany ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL.  Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers, I wish to share with you today what may appear as a tragic family quarrel: Ferdinand Elder, a highly reputed lawyer, and his wife Caroline nee Emerson were married in MN in 1875, and following a short stay in Duval Co.,. FL they lived for many years in MN before moving to WA, ending up in Tacoma, WA. Ferdinand Elder died in 1915, and by then his oldest son was apparently "dead" to his parents: Howard Morton ELDER was born in Duval Co., FL Sep. 1, 1876. He grew up with his parents in MN and accompanied them in the late 1880's to WA. However, some time in the early 1890's he appears to have left home to work on the railroad. He married a 1st time in La Crosse, WI in 1897 to Clara Mathilda Nelson of Norwegian extraction. They had one son, and then about 1902 they were divorced. Shortly thereafter Howard remarried a Florence NN from MN and moved to Yuma, AZ where by 1910 he had become a saloon keeper (Dear Listers, I wish to share with you today what may appear as a tragic family quarrel: Ferdinand Elder, a highly reputed lawyer, and his wife Caroline nee Emerson were married in MN in 1875, and following a short stay in Duval Co.,. FL they lived for many years in MN before moving to WA, ending up in Tacoma, WA. Ferdinand Elder died in 1915, and by then his oldest son was apparently "dead" to his parents: Howard Morton ELDER was born in Duval Co., FL Sep. 1, 1876. He grew up with his parents in MN and accompanied them in the late 1880's to WA. However, some time in the early 1890's he appears to have left home to work on the railroad. He married a 1st time in La Crosse, WI in 1897 to Clara Mathilda Nelson of Norwegian extraction. They had one son, and then about 1902 they were divorced. Shortly thereafter Howard remarried Florence NN from MN, and they moved to Yuma, AZ where by 1910 Howard had become a saloon keeper (http://interactive.ancestry.com/7884/31111_4327231-00146/341155?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3d1910USCenIndex%26indiv%3dtry%26h%3d341155&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord). The WW1 draft record shows him residing in San Bernardino Co., CA, then married to Alma, but by 1920 he was widowed, a resident of Trona, San Bernardino Co., CA (http://interactive.ancestry.com/6061/4293834-00600/81931585?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3d1920usfedcen%26h%3d81931585%26indiv%3dtry%26o_vc%3dRecord%253aOtherRecord%26rhSource%3d6482&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord). That's the last I see of him! Can you listers please hep this Norwegian relative of Howard's 1st wife Clara Nelson find out: * What is really Howard Elder's occupation at Trona, CA in 1920? * And, can Howard's death record be found in the CADI after 1920? * Or, does anyone have any suggestions what may have become of Howard Elder after 1920? After all he was only 43 years old at the time... Thanks a million in advance for any assistance you can possible give me in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane Geilo, Norway/Bavaria, Germany

Thanks Alma, And also thanks for reminding me about the informational copy. I had forgotten about that 'little' detail. Nancy From: <Sto4us@aol.com> To: <norcal@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [NORCAL] Death certificate Calavaras Co > Here it is. Choose the Informational Copy. > > http://clerk.calaverasgov.us/Portals/clerk/Docs/Recorder_2013/Application_fo > r_Birth_or_Death_Record_InPerson.pdf > > Just copy and paste the link in your browser...

Here it is. Choose the Informational Copy. http://clerk.calaverasgov.us/Portals/clerk/Docs/Recorder_2013/Application_fo r_Birth_or_Death_Record_InPerson.pdf Just copy and paste the link in your browser... Alma Merced Co. In a message dated 8/16/2013 5:02:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, wright4766@bellsouth.net writes: I looked at the Calavaras County website but I don't see an application for a death certificate. Should I order it from the County Clerk, the Count Archives, the library? I found a David Lowrie who may be my missing gr uncle. I think he was a miner in Calavaras County from about 1870 to 1900. I hope to find some identifying information on the death cert. I have so little information on him, only his census records and voter's registration. He didn't marry and didn't leave any newpaper aticles behind. He is just a name with a few facts. Nancy in Louisiana ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

County recorder for Calavaras County,I imagine. Google that and see what pops up. In a message dated 8/16/2013 5:03:04 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, wright4766@bellsouth.net writes: I looked at the Calavaras County website but I don't see an application for a death certificate. Should I order it from the County Clerk, the Count Archives, the library? I found a David Lowrie who may be my missing gr uncle. I think he was a miner in Calavaras County from about 1870 to 1900. I hope to find some identifying information on the death cert. I have so little information on him, only his census records and voter's registration. He didn't marry and didn't leave any newpaper aticles behind. He is just a name with a few facts. Nancy in Louisiana ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I looked at the Calavaras County website but I don't see an application for a death certificate. Should I order it from the County Clerk, the Count Archives, the library? I found a David Lowrie who may be my missing gr uncle. I think he was a miner in Calavaras County from about 1870 to 1900. I hope to find some identifying information on the death cert. I have so little information on him, only his census records and voter's registration. He didn't marry and didn't leave any newpaper aticles behind. He is just a name with a few facts. Nancy in Louisiana

I did check Mocavo. Thanks Jelayne. Sharon Sanborn Carmichael

My cousin has been looking for many years for her parents marriage. Her parents met while living in Klamath Falls, OR, and moved almost immediately to North Fork, Madera County, CA. Neither of them show up in the 1940 census, which leads me to believe they were married about that time. A relative checked Klamath County and Jackson County Oregon records and they were not married there. Looking for Florence Lorraine Alger (born April 1913 Etna, CA) and Donald Maxwell Gleason (born 1910 Nebraska). I have checked Ancestry with zero results. Anyplace else I should look? Sharon Sanborn Carmichael

Have you tried searching using : http://www.mocavo.com/ Hugs Jelayne On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 12:48 PM, <sillysewer@comcast.net> wrote: > My cousin has been looking for many years for her parents marriage. Her > parents met while living in Klamath Falls, OR, and moved almost immediately > to North Fork, Madera County, CA. Neither of them show up in the 1940 > census, which leads me to believe they were married about that time. A > relative checked Klamath County and Jackson County Oregon records and they > were not married there. Looking for Florence Lorraine Alger (born April > 1913 Etna, CA) and Donald Maxwell Gleason (born 1910 Nebraska). > > I have checked Ancestry with zero results. Anyplace else I should look? > > Sharon Sanborn > Carmichael > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It's been said before, but you guys ARE great... Thanks for helping me get my marriage certificate!! Joan

Hi, If this fits : Kelsey T RaberAge:33Est. Birth:abt 1940Spouse Name:Joan F BancroftSpouse Age:39Est. Spouse Birth:abt 1934Date:9 Aug 1973Location:Imperial Then you can order a copy from Vital check at : https://secure.ancestry.com/VitalChek/selection.aspx?su=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3frank%3d1%26new%3d1%26MSAV%3d0%26msT%3d1%26gss%3dangs-g%26gsfn%3djoan%26gsln%3dBancroft%2b%26mswpn__ftp%3dCalifornia%252c%2bUSA%26mswpn%3d7%26mswpn_PInfo%3d5-%257c0%257c1652393%257c0%257c2%257c3249%257c7%257c0%257c0%257c0%257c0%257c%26msgdy%3d1951%26msgpn__ftp%3dCalifornia%252c%2bUSA%26msgpn%3d7%26msgpn_PInfo%3d5-%257c0%257c1652393%257c0%257c2%257c3249%257c7%257c0%257c0%257c0%257c0%257c%26uidh%3d1v3%26pcat%3dROOT_CATEGORY%26h%3d3216187%26recoff%3d27%2b29%26db%3dCaMarrIndex%26indiv%3d1&ce=4&na=Kelsey+T+Raber&ge=M&sn=Joan+F+Bancroft&ed=1973&co=Imperial&st=CA On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Joan Bancroft <joanbancroft@sbcglobal.net>wrote: > I am applying for the SS benefits of my recently deceased spouse... can > someone help me find a copy of my marriage certificate Dec 16, 1951 ?? We > were married at the Stanford Chapel... Santa Clara Co.?? > > > > ________________________________ > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi   From: Vital Search   Dudley K. Bancroft   to   Joan V. Hise  (I'll omit the ages) License issued in Santa Clara (43) county Date: 12/16/1951 License registered in San Mateo (41) county Local file # 1433; state file # 74047   Current cost for Certified Copy: $14.00 Bob ________________________________ From: Joan Bancroft <joanbancroft@sbcglobal.net> To: "norcal@rootsweb.com" <norcal@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 9, 2013 1:55 PM Subject: [NORCAL] marriage certificate 1951 I am applying for the SS benefits of my recently deceased spouse... can someone help me find a copy of my marriage certificate Dec 16, 1951 ??  We were married at the Stanford Chapel... Santa Clara Co.?? ________________________________ ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL.  Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am applying for the SS benefits of my recently deceased spouse... can someone help me find a copy of my marriage certificate Dec 16, 1951 ??  We were married at the Stanford Chapel... Santa Clara Co.?? ________________________________

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Interesting Nancy, I wonder if it was his father who was naturalized. Hmmmm ________________________________ From: Nancy <wright4766@bellsouth.net> To: Marilyn Demas <theschoolbell@live.com>; norcal@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:10 AM Subject: Re: [NORCAL] 1862 Naturalization Marilyn I have only found George Black in one ceneus record, the 1880 census.  That said he was born in New York, if that was so he would not have to be naturalized.  He married Maggie Carter sometime in 1870.  My grandmother was born in March 1871.  various records say George was born in New York, Michigan and Canada.  Another George Black in Oakland (of approximately the right age) was born in Scotland.  I don't think this is the same Geroge Black because he is living with a 28 year old woman named Mary and a 4 month old male child by the name of H. B. Gibson. George died in 1894.  He had a brother named Alexander who came to California in the summer of 1874.  Alexander was killed in a railroad accident on 1 Oct 1874.  (He was born 1832 so may have left a wife and children in New York.)  The obituary said he had been here three months.  At the bottom of the obituary was a note for New York papers please copy.  I know the births and deaths of my gr grandafather's 5 children.  Only my grandmother and one brother lived to be adults. William George Black died at age 29 unmarried. If I don't research my gr grandfather no one else will.  My cousins are not interested.  So I want to get everything I can on him.  This George Black who was naturalized in 1862 is the right age, but still may not be my George Black. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Demas" <theschoolbell@yahoo.com> To: <norcal@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [NORCAL] 1862 Naturalization Nancy, Have you tried the State Documents div of the Ca State Lib for this or the State archives? May I ask what you are trying to garner from this document? I take it that census rcords aren't providing where he originated??? marilyn ________________________________ From: Nancy <wright4766@bellsouth.net> To: norcal@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 9:58 AM Subject: [NORCAL] 1862 Naturalization My gr grandfather was naturalized in Sierra County in 1862. I e-mailed teh Clerk of Court there to ask how I could get a copy of that naturalization and the cost. I haven't had any answer. Can anyone tell me what else I can do? Anyone know how to get a copy of the record or the cost of copies? Nancy in Louisiana ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL.  Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL.  Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

you might want to check the national archives. On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:00 AM, <norcal-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > NORCAL LIBRARY http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/norcallib.html > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. 1862 Naturalization (Nancy) > 2. Re: 1862 Naturalization (Ktsc100@aol.com) > 3. Re: 1862 Naturalization (Nancy) > 4. Re: 1862 Naturalization (CYLGowdy@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 16:58:57 -0500 > From: "Nancy" <wright4766@bellsouth.net> > Subject: [NORCAL] 1862 Naturalization > To: <norcal@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <2F5E5A28C83649A9A8D46A1C688837EF@nancyef5712cd6> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > My gr grandfather was naturalized in Sierra County in 1862. I e-mailed > teh Clerk of Court there to ask how I could get a copy of that > naturalization and the cost. I haven't had any answer. Can anyone tell me > what else I can do? Anyone know how to get a copy of the record or the > cost of copies? > > Nancy in Louisiana > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 18:58:53 -0400 (EDT) > From: Ktsc100@aol.com > Subject: Re: [NORCAL] 1862 Naturalization > To: norcal@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <124b5.286ec33a.3f3036ad@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Nancy, > > According to Guide to the County Archives of California, by Owen C. Coy, > this is what Sierra County had in 1916. > > Declaration of Intention. Record, 1906-date, 1 v.; Index, 1852-1905, 1 v. > Naturalization, Acts of, 1869-1888, 3 v.; Records of , 1888-1906, 2 v.; > Petition and Record, 1906-date,1 v. > Naturalized Citizens Index, 1852-1905, 1 v. > > It is anybody's guess what might have happened to the documents from 1862. > Sierra is a very tiny county and the employees probably wear many hats. > Your email may never get answered. I would suggest you call the county and > ask for whatever information they might have. However, don't expect much. > The early documents recorded before 1906 seldom contained anything other > then the person's country of origin. > > Ken Tessendorff > ========= > > > > In a message dated 8/4/2013 2:58:58 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > wright4766@bellsouth.net writes: > > My gr grandfather was naturalized in Sierra County in 1862. I e-mailed > teh Clerk of Court there to ask how I could get a copy of that > naturalization > and the cost. I haven't had any answer. Can anyone tell me what else I > can do? Anyone know how to get a copy of the record or the cost of > copies? > > Nancy in Louisiana > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 18:59:51 -0500 > From: "Nancy" <wright4766@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Re: [NORCAL] 1862 Naturalization > To: <norcal@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <63C2A95DA8EE40E88C6C4ADC821C852E@nancyef5712cd6> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > > Ken, > Country of origin would be wonderful. Right now I have Canada, Ireland and > Scotland depending on the record you are looking at. > > Nancy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Ktsc100@aol.com> > > > > Nancy, > > > > According to Guide to the County Archives of California, by Owen C. Coy, > > this is what Sierra County had in 1916. > > > > Declaration of Intention. Record, 1906-date, 1 v.; Index, 1852-1905, 1 > v. > > Naturalization, Acts of, 1869-1888, 3 v.; Records of , 1888-1906, 2 v.; > > Petition and Record, 1906-date,1 v. > > Naturalized Citizens Index, 1852-1905, 1 v. > > > > It is anybody's guess what might have happened to the documents from > > 1862. > > Sierra is a very tiny county and the employees probably wear many hats. > > Your email may never get answered. I would suggest you call the county > > and > > ask for whatever information they might have. However, don't expect > > much. > > The early documents recorded before 1906 seldom contained anything other > > then the person's country of origin. > > > > Ken Tessendorff > > ========= > > > > > > > > In a message dated 8/4/2013 2:58:58 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > wright4766@bellsouth.net writes: > > > > My gr grandfather was naturalized in Sierra County in 1862. I e-mailed > > teh Clerk of Court there to ask how I could get a copy of that > > naturalization > > and the cost. I haven't had any answer. Can anyone tell me what else I > > can do? Anyone know how to get a copy of the record or the cost of > > copies? > > > > Nancy in Louisiana > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > > ----------------------------------------- > > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > > NORCAL@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > > ----------------------------------------- > > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > > NORCAL@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 21:02:25 -0400 (EDT) > From: CYLGowdy@aol.com > Subject: Re: [NORCAL] 1862 Naturalization > To: norcal@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <24ba7.5e9268a3.3f3053a1@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Nancy, > I sincerely hope Sierra Co. has its naturalization records. Marin County > doesn't. They decided they needed space and it turned out that they were > given > to the National Archives in San Bruno for safe keeping. I think it was Ken > who suggested you call them; I agree 100%. Possibly there is a > genealogical society in the vicinity who for a small fee would get copies > for you. > > > > Cathy > Marin Co., CA > > "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast" - unknown > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NORCAL list administrator, send an email to > NORCAL-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > NORCAL@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NORCAL Digest, Vol 8, Issue 199 > ************************************** > -- Robert Stacey has moved to Casa Glendale where he is surrounded by lords and ladies of all kinds. Emeritus Glendale is the best.

George Peterburs was born in 1959, I believe in Wisconsin. He died in 2005 in Sacramento, CA. Does anyone have access to a birth or death index that can give me the dates? Betty

Marilyn I have only found George Black in one ceneus record, the 1880 census. That said he was born in New York, if that was so he would not have to be naturalized. He married Maggie Carter sometime in 1870. My grandmother was born in March 1871. various records say George was born in New York, Michigan and Canada. Another George Black in Oakland (of approximately the right age) was born in Scotland. I don't think this is the same Geroge Black because he is living with a 28 year old woman named Mary and a 4 month old male child by the name of H. B. Gibson. George died in 1894. He had a brother named Alexander who came to California in the summer of 1874. Alexander was killed in a railroad accident on 1 Oct 1874. (He was born 1832 so may have left a wife and children in New York.) The obituary said he had been here three months. At the bottom of the obituary was a note for New York papers please copy. I know the births and deaths of my gr grandafather's 5 children. Only my grandmother and one brother lived to be adults. William George Black died at age 29 unmarried. If I don't research my gr grandfather no one else will. My cousins are not interested. So I want to get everything I can on him. This George Black who was naturalized in 1862 is the right age, but still may not be my George Black. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Demas" <theschoolbell@yahoo.com> To: <norcal@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [NORCAL] 1862 Naturalization Nancy, Have you tried the State Documents div of the Ca State Lib for this or the State archives? May I ask what you are trying to garner from this document? I take it that census rcords aren't providing where he originated??? marilyn ________________________________ From: Nancy <wright4766@bellsouth.net> To: norcal@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 9:58 AM Subject: [NORCAL] 1862 Naturalization My gr grandfather was naturalized in Sierra County in 1862. I e-mailed teh Clerk of Court there to ask how I could get a copy of that naturalization and the cost. I haven't had any answer. Can anyone tell me what else I can do? Anyone know how to get a copy of the record or the cost of copies? Nancy in Louisiana ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Betty, George J. Peterburs, DoB 8 Apr 1959, DoD 24 May 2005 Cheers,  Jim -- James R. Smith Author/Speaker/Researcher Author: San Francisco's Lost Landmarks California Snatch Racket, San Francisco's Playland at the Beach: The Early Years www.HistorySmith.com On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 11:17:46 -0400 (EDT), scrapsbratt@aol.com wrote: George Peterburs was born in 1959, I believe in Wisconsin. > He died in 2005 in Sacramento, CA. > > Does anyone have access to a birth or death index that can give me the dates? > > > Betty > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Nancy, Have you tried the State Documents div of the Ca State Lib for this or the State archives? May I ask what you are trying to garner from this document? I take it that census rcords aren't providing where he originated??? marilyn ________________________________ From: Nancy <wright4766@bellsouth.net> To: norcal@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 9:58 AM Subject: [NORCAL] 1862 Naturalization My gr grandfather was naturalized in Sierra County in 1862.  I e-mailed teh Clerk of Court there to ask how I could get a copy of that naturalization and the cost.  I haven't had any answer.  Can anyone tell me what else I can do?  Anyone know how to get a copy of the record or the cost of copies? Nancy in Louisiana ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL.  Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message