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I have not been very active lately, but an always interested in the threads involving Lars. My ggGrandfather was from Bavaria, Germany and I am hoping to trace his family back to Bavaria. I know it is not NorCal, but does anyone have hints in tracing families to Bavaria? Betty

Family History Day 2013 at the California State Archives is looking for volunteers to help staff the day. Duties are easy and can be for as little as an hour or two. We'll provide coffee and breakfast refreshments at our volunteer orientation on the morning of the event, and every volunteer will receive a free Family History Day 2013 syllabus. Family History Day 2013 takes place on October 12, 2013 California State Archives 1020 "O" Street Sacramento, CA 95814 Volunteers will be needed from 8:00 in the morning to about 4:30 pm in the afternoon. Our volunteer orientation will be held at 7:30 that morning in the courtyard of the California State Archives. If you can help, please send an email to: ingeborgec@sbcglobal.net Thank you! We hope to see you there, either as a volunteer or participant in the day's activities. Victoria Fisch, Chairman Family History Day 2013 at the California State Archives familyhistoryday2013@gmail.com Visit our website at: http://familyhistoryday2013.blogspot.com/ and see us on Facebook!

Family History Day 2013 at the California State Archives is fast approaching on October 12. This is an all-day free event with free parking, and free admission to the California Museum is included. We're excited about the roster of speakers this year, and hope you will be, too! Reserve your syllabus, which includes all class notes, speaker biographies, and exhibitor information, by sending an email to familyhistoryday2013@gmail.com We hope to see you there! Victoria Fisch, Chairman Family History Day 2013 at the California State Archives familyhistoryday2013@gmail.com Visit our website at: http://familyhistoryday2013.blogspot.com/ and see us on Facebook!

I'm in that boat too boundaries changed so much sometimes I get Germany sometimes Bavaria or Bulgaria Sent from my iPhone On Aug 24, 2013, at 1:06 PM, scrapsbratt@aol.com wrote: > I have not been very active lately, but an always interested in the threads involving Lars. > > > My ggGrandfather was from Bavaria, Germany and I am hoping to trace his family back to Bavaria. > I know it is not NorCal, but does anyone have hints in tracing families to Bavaria? > > > Betty > > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Betty, While my family was from Baden, Germany, I do have some experience in researching that area - contact me directly at my private email address: twigsnbranches@earthlink.net Thanks, Margie Hinton -----Original Message----- >From: scrapsbratt@aol.com >Sent: Aug 24, 2013 12:06 PM >To: norcal-l@rootsweb.com, norcal-l@rootsweb.com >Subject: [NORCAL] Bavaria, Germany > > I have not been very active lately, but an always interested in the threads involving Lars. > > >My ggGrandfather was from Bavaria, Germany and I am hoping to trace his family back to Bavaria. >I know it is not NorCal, but does anyone have hints in tracing families to Bavaria? > > >Betty >

Dear Listers, Can someone please help me locate an OBITUARY for this gentleman: Richard Hadley DEAR born Feb. 4, 1920 in San Francisco, CA died Feb. 2, 1999, presumably at Willits, Mendocino Co., CA Thank you very much in advance for your great assistance! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

Some day you will be found by someone else interested in the family name! So glad you got the certificate! Cathy In a message dated 8/23/13 11:47:14 AM, wright4766@bellsouth.net writes: > Thanks to everyone's help on this list, I now have the death certificate > of a great uncle.  He was in Alameda County with the rest of his adult > siblings but soon after he disappeared.  I found a David Lowrie who was born in > Scotland and about the right age in census records, but the chance of it > being my David Lowrie was questionable. I found him on the CADI and decided > I would never know unless I wrote for the certificate.  It arrived today, > and although the birth date is exactly 2 years off, he names his parents.  > So I know he belongs to our family. > > I have no one to share it with, so I will share with those who encouraged > me get the copy.  Thanks everyone. >

I truly believe they kind us and want to be found Sent from my iPhone On Aug 23, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Alice Duncan <morsnom2@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Sometimes you just have to listen to that kniggleing little hunch. > I looked for years for someone I knew lived in Napa Hot Springs tnshp. > 1860. Died in trainwreck,unkn year, his daughter in Hotsprings with my > grt grandparents 1870.. Lo and behold ,the wreck was in Missouri ,1869. He > was there between census'. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nancy" <wright4766@bellsouth.net> > To: <norcal@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:44 AM > Subject: [NORCAL] Death Cert Calaveras County > > >> Thanks to everyone's help on this list, I now have the death certificate >> of a great uncle. He was in Alameda County with the rest of his adult >> siblings but soon after he disappeared. I found a David Lowrie who was >> born in Scotland and about the right age in census records, but the chance >> of it being my David Lowrie was questionable. I found him on the CADI and >> decided I would never know unless I wrote for the certificate. It arrived >> today, and although the birth date is exactly 2 years off, he names his >> parents. So I know he belongs to our family. >> >> I have no one to share it with, so I will share with those who encouraged >> me get the copy. Thanks everyone. >> >> Nancy in Louisiana >> >> >> >> >> ----------------------------------------- >> NORCAL ARCHIVES: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ >> Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. >> Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. >> ----------------------------------------- >> To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to >> NORCAL@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Awesome! I know what you mean about just having to tell someone!! He sure wanted to be found!! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 23, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Nancy <wright4766@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Thanks to everyone's help on this list, I now have the death certificate of a great uncle. He was in Alameda County with the rest of his adult siblings but soon after he disappeared. I found a David Lowrie who was born in Scotland and about the right age in census records, but the chance of it being my David Lowrie was questionable. I found him on the CADI and decided I would never know unless I wrote for the certificate. It arrived today, and although the birth date is exactly 2 years off, he names his parents. So I know he belongs to our family. > > I have no one to share it with, so I will share with those who encouraged me get the copy. Thanks everyone. > > Nancy in Louisiana > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to everyone's help on this list, I now have the death certificate of a great uncle. He was in Alameda County with the rest of his adult siblings but soon after he disappeared. I found a David Lowrie who was born in Scotland and about the right age in census records, but the chance of it being my David Lowrie was questionable. I found him on the CADI and decided I would never know unless I wrote for the certificate. It arrived today, and although the birth date is exactly 2 years off, he names his parents. So I know he belongs to our family. I have no one to share it with, so I will share with those who encouraged me get the copy. Thanks everyone. Nancy in Louisiana

Sometimes you just have to listen to that kniggleing little hunch. I looked for years for someone I knew lived in Napa Hot Springs tnshp. 1860. Died in trainwreck,unkn year, his daughter in Hotsprings with my grt grandparents 1870.. Lo and behold ,the wreck was in Missouri ,1869. He was there between census'. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy" <wright4766@bellsouth.net> To: <norcal@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:44 AM Subject: [NORCAL] Death Cert Calaveras County > Thanks to everyone's help on this list, I now have the death certificate > of a great uncle. He was in Alameda County with the rest of his adult > siblings but soon after he disappeared. I found a David Lowrie who was > born in Scotland and about the right age in census records, but the chance > of it being my David Lowrie was questionable. I found him on the CADI and > decided I would never know unless I wrote for the certificate. It arrived > today, and although the birth date is exactly 2 years off, he names his > parents. So I know he belongs to our family. > > I have no one to share it with, so I will share with those who encouraged > me get the copy. Thanks everyone. > > Nancy in Louisiana > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for the tips. So far we've even tried ALL females in 1946! Madera is a little over an hour away from me, not too far for a drive down there to find what I can find! Thanks again!! Sheila On 8/22/2013 1:13 PM, EdrieAnne Broughton wrote: > One of my husband's aunts death certificate had slipped underneath all the > other certificates in her drawer. It was only found weeks after the > initial search by a clerk who decided to clean out that whole drawer. I > love the San Diego County Records office that went that extra bit. I > might also suggest alternative spellings...like Mathilda or Mattie...or > even her maiden name. > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Sheila Ruiz Harrell > <sheila-ann@juno.com>wrote: > >> Thanks Susan, >> I've been in contact with the Madera County Cemetery District office and >> they found the burial for the husband, Jose M Rivera but not for his >> wife, Matilda Rivera. She IS listed on the CA Death Index as having died >> in Madera County in Jan 1946. I was hoping her death cert might list her >> last known address... the couple lived at 208 South O Street from at >> least 1910 through 1940, according to the census pages, just two doors >> down from my mom and her family. >> Possibly Jay Chapel might have some info or maybe St Joachim Catholic >> Church. I haven't yet checked those two places. >> Since she was the last of the family... no siblings, parents, or >> cousins... I wonder who provided information for her death cert? Maybe >> hospital records?? Could be. >> This is one of those small things that just keeps nagging at me! She's >> not my relative but she was associated with some of my relatives. >> Thanks again, I appreciate your suggestion! >> Sheila >> >> On 8/22/2013 12:27 PM, Susan Stuart wrote: >>> Hi Sheila, >>> >>> Madera's website doesn't actually say whether or not you can look at >> records in person, but maybe you could call them. The phone number is also >> here: http://www.madera-county.com/index.php/recorder/vitalrecordsmenu >>> Do you have access to Ancestry? Did you check Find A Grave? >>> >>> Best, >>> Susan >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Sheila Ruiz Harrell <sheila-ann@juno.com> >>> To: norcal@rootsweb.com; camadera@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:45 AM >>> Subject: [NORCAL] Madera County death records...1940s >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> Does anyone know if Madera County allows death certificates to be read >>> there in the office... not actually purchased? >>> >>> Sheila >>>

One of my husband's aunts death certificate had slipped underneath all the other certificates in her drawer. It was only found weeks after the initial search by a clerk who decided to clean out that whole drawer. I love the San Diego County Records office that went that extra bit. I might also suggest alternative spellings...like Mathilda or Mattie...or even her maiden name. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Sheila Ruiz Harrell <sheila-ann@juno.com>wrote: > Thanks Susan, > I've been in contact with the Madera County Cemetery District office and > they found the burial for the husband, Jose M Rivera but not for his > wife, Matilda Rivera. She IS listed on the CA Death Index as having died > in Madera County in Jan 1946. I was hoping her death cert might list her > last known address... the couple lived at 208 South O Street from at > least 1910 through 1940, according to the census pages, just two doors > down from my mom and her family. > Possibly Jay Chapel might have some info or maybe St Joachim Catholic > Church. I haven't yet checked those two places. > Since she was the last of the family... no siblings, parents, or > cousins... I wonder who provided information for her death cert? Maybe > hospital records?? Could be. > This is one of those small things that just keeps nagging at me! She's > not my relative but she was associated with some of my relatives. > Thanks again, I appreciate your suggestion! > Sheila > > On 8/22/2013 12:27 PM, Susan Stuart wrote: > > Hi Sheila, > > > > Madera's website doesn't actually say whether or not you can look at > records in person, but maybe you could call them. The phone number is also > here: http://www.madera-county.com/index.php/recorder/vitalrecordsmenu > > > > Do you have access to Ancestry? Did you check Find A Grave? > > > > Best, > > Susan > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Sheila Ruiz Harrell <sheila-ann@juno.com> > > To: norcal@rootsweb.com; camadera@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:45 AM > > Subject: [NORCAL] Madera County death records...1940s > > > > > > Hi, > > Does anyone know if Madera County allows death certificates to be read > > there in the office... not actually purchased? > > > > Sheila > > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Susan, I've been in contact with the Madera County Cemetery District office and they found the burial for the husband, Jose M Rivera but not for his wife, Matilda Rivera. She IS listed on the CA Death Index as having died in Madera County in Jan 1946. I was hoping her death cert might list her last known address... the couple lived at 208 South O Street from at least 1910 through 1940, according to the census pages, just two doors down from my mom and her family. Possibly Jay Chapel might have some info or maybe St Joachim Catholic Church. I haven't yet checked those two places. Since she was the last of the family... no siblings, parents, or cousins... I wonder who provided information for her death cert? Maybe hospital records?? Could be. This is one of those small things that just keeps nagging at me! She's not my relative but she was associated with some of my relatives. Thanks again, I appreciate your suggestion! Sheila On 8/22/2013 12:27 PM, Susan Stuart wrote: > Hi Sheila, > > Madera's website doesn't actually say whether or not you can look at records in person, but maybe you could call them. The phone number is also here: http://www.madera-county.com/index.php/recorder/vitalrecordsmenu > > Do you have access to Ancestry? Did you check Find A Grave? > > Best, > Susan > > > ________________________________ > From: Sheila Ruiz Harrell <sheila-ann@juno.com> > To: norcal@rootsweb.com; camadera@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:45 AM > Subject: [NORCAL] Madera County death records...1940s > > > Hi, > Does anyone know if Madera County allows death certificates to be read > there in the office... not actually purchased? > > Sheila

Hi Sheila,   Madera's website doesn't actually say whether or not you can look at records in person, but maybe you could call them.  The phone number is also here: http://www.madera-county.com/index.php/recorder/vitalrecordsmenu   Do you have access to Ancestry?  Did you check Find A Grave?   Best, Susan ________________________________ From: Sheila Ruiz Harrell <sheila-ann@juno.com> To: norcal@rootsweb.com; camadera@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:45 AM Subject: [NORCAL] Madera County death records...1940s Hi, Does anyone know if Madera County allows death certificates to be read there in the office... not actually purchased? Sheila

Dear Listers, Well, I just made another attempt in the 1880 census, and this time I found the Rentschler brothers living at Greenville, Darke Co., OH: ~~~~~ RENTSCHLER, Mary 48 wid Ger Ger Ger keeping house RENTSCHLER, William 21 son OH Ger Ger clerk in store RENTSCHLER, George 19 son OH Ger Ger clerk in store RENTSCHLER, Frank 15 son OH Ger Ger clerk in store RENTSCHLER, Mary 11 dau OH Ger Ger ~~~~~ They are also there in 1870, then the name is spelt RENSLER. Mother Mary (44) (widow) was born in Baden, while William (12), George (9), Frank (6) and Mary (1) were all born in OH. And now I found them even in 1860 at Greenville, Dsrke Co., OH. Father George (23) is a blacksmith born in Wuertt. Mary (30) is born in Baden, while son William (1) is born in OH. Name spelling looks like Renchler. Thus, the origin of George's family has been found, only the exact dare of birth is missing! And of course the other questions... Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Aug 22, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Lars Oyane wrote: > Dear Listers, > > Once again I must ask you for assistance. This young lady born in Minnesota to Norwegian emigrant parents left home for "the West" at a young age and ended up in San Francisco, CA. Here is what I know: > > Bertha Caroline LEMVIG, born Apr. 22, 1871 in Fillmore Co., MN, died May 26, 1953 in San Francisco, CA > Bertha married 1st time about 1898 (date and place unknown) to: > George William RENTSCHLER, born May of 1861 in Ohio to German parents, > (had a brother William Clarence RENTSCHLER, born June of 1859 in Ohio) > George was a book publisher and printer - resided San Francisco, CA from late 1880's - disappear about 1904 > brother William lived in San Francisco, CA at least until 1925 > > Bertha married 2nd time about 1915 (date and place unknown) to: > Frederick James MARTINDALE, born Apr. 24, 1873 at Galt, ON, died Aug. 29, 1925 in San Francisco, CA > printing office contractor - resided San Francisco, CA > Bertha and Fred are buried in the Mt. Olivet cemetery at Colma, CA > > And here are my questions: > > 1) Exact date and place of Bertha's 1st marriage to George Rentschler? > > 2) Exact date and place of Bertha's 2nd marriage to Fred Martindale? > > 3) Exact date and place of George Rentschler's birth? Strangely enough neither George nor his brother can be found in any early census records > > 4) What happened to George Rentschler about 1904? Either George died(?) or they moved away > > Any information that can be found to answer these specific questions would be very much appreciated, and I thank you very much in advance for your efforts! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > Geilo, Norway/Bavaria, Germany >

Dear Listers, Once again I must ask you for assistance. This young lady born in Minnesota to Norwegian emigrant parents left home for "the West" at a young age and ended up in San Francisco, CA. Here is what I know: Bertha Caroline LEMVIG, born Apr. 22, 1871 in Fillmore Co., MN, died May 26, 1953 in San Francisco, CA Bertha married 1st time about 1898 (date and place unknown) to: George William RENTSCHLER, born May of 1861 in Ohio to German parents, (had a brother William Clarence RENTSCHLER, born June of 1859 in Ohio) George was a book publisher and printer - resided San Francisco, CA from late 1880's - disappear about 1904 brother William lived in San Francisco, CA at least until 1925 Bertha married 2nd time about 1915 (date and place unknown) to: Frederick James MARTINDALE, born Apr. 24, 1873 at Galt, ON, died Aug. 29, 1925 in San Francisco, CA printing office contractor - resided San Francisco, CA Bertha and Fred are buried in the Mt. Olivet cemetery at Colma, CA And here are my questions: 1) Exact date and place of Bertha's 1st marriage to George Rentschler? 2) Exact date and place of Bertha's 2nd marriage to Fred Martindale? 3) Exact date and place of George Rentschler's birth? Strangely enough neither George nor his brother can be found in any early census records 4) What happened to George Rentschler about 1904? Either George died(?) or they moved away Any information that can be found to answer these specific questions would be very much appreciated, and I thank you very much in advance for your efforts! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane Geilo, Norway/Bavaria, Germany

Hi, Does anyone know if Madera County allows death certificates to be read there in the office... not actually purchased? I have two people, husband and wife who died in 1942 and 1946. I would like to know where they were living at the time of their death... the street name/number in Madera that may be on the death cert... and where the wife is buried. Madera Cemetery District has no record of her burial in Madera County which is odd... her mother and husband were both buried at Calvary Cemetery so it's a mystery as to why this woman was not buried there too. The couple had no children and no other family. Thanks in advance for any help! Sheila

Dear Sharon, RoseMary, Margie, Roland and other Listers! Thank you very much to all of you for additional comments on Howard Elder, his occupation, where he lived, on the life at Trona, CA etc. It is interesting to me since I have NEVER been in California myself, and yet so many descendants of "my" Norwegian emigrant families have ended up there! l My guess is, as I have already said, that Howard Elder probably left CA shortly after 1920. Maybe he went to mine in NV, NM or CO? Too bad there aren't any good death indexes for any of these "mining" states... Well, let's hope he'll show up somewhere, sooner or later...! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Aug 21, 2013, at 3:15 PM, Margie wrote: > > I normally don't get involved with some of these threads since I no longer > live > in Northern California - but I just have to jump in here as a 'former > Northern > California native' who unfortunately now lives near Trona, California in > Kern County - located in SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. > Have you asked the Library in Ridgecrest, CA about this question? That > would be the closest place where someone MIGHT know. The California City > library which is the town (calls itself a city - NOT) closest to Trona is > very limited - believe me - I live > here. > This area of the Mojave desert (at 2500 foot elevation) had a lot of > quarries and mining at one time (some, but not a lot, of gold, quartz, etc) > and mostly these towns (I use that word lightly) are deserted and derelict > places that time forgot. Sorry to those few people who still claim Trona as > their home - but there are probably only one hand full of families living > there now, if that many. > > > After that thunder and lightening storm we had come through > here a couple of days ago, Trona may have been washed away. That storm had > huge lightening strikes VERY CLOSE to us - not mentioned in the media. > There still is mining in the hills around here - for borax and for other > stuff that gets hauled out going south on the few unmarked rail cars each > evening. Just south of me in the town of Mojave they are opening up one of > the deserted gold mines - but how much they are finding? They aren't > saying. > Margie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lars Oyane" <[1]loya@online.no> > To: <[2]norcal@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 1:28 PM > Subject: Re: [NORCAL] Howard Morton Elder,born FL 1876 - in California > 1920 - what became of him? - CADI? > Dear Marilyn and other Listers! > Thank you very much, Marilyn, for your latest message on the Elder-topic. I > still have trouble seeing a connection between this Elder family and the > Elders in Sacramento, CA, but I have sent you off-line a copy of Ferdinand > Elder's obituary from Tacoma, WA 1915 for you to study... > My three original questions about Howard Elder still stand "open". Maybe > they are just impossible to solve... >>> * What is really Howard Elder's occupation at Trona, CA in 1920? >>> >>> * And, can Howard's death record be found in the CADI after 1920? >>> >>> * Or, does anyone have any suggestions what may have become of Howard >>> Elder after 1920? After all he was only 43 years old at the time... > Again, thanks a million for any suggestions! > Very sincerely yours, > Lars E. Oyane > > References > > 1. mailto:loya@online.no > 2. mailto:norcal@rootsweb.com > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >