Sophie, I checked Worldcat, and it shows that there is one copy at the Missouri library below. You could try requesting it through your interlibrary loan system. "University of Southern Mississippi, Regional Campus,” Joseph Anderson Cook Library, Hattiesburg, MS 39406. (Worldcat < http://www.worldcat.org/>) Peggy Perazzo Peggy B. Perazzo pbperazzo@comcast.net Stone Quarries and Beyond http://quarriesandbeyond.org/ New additions to our web site will be listed on our Facebook page, which is open to the public . http://www.facebook.com/StoneQuarriesAndBeyond ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sophie Ryan" <sophieryan1018@gmail.com> To: norcal@rootsweb.com Cc: norcal@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2013 10:52:52 AM Subject: Re: [NORCAL] NORCAL Digest, Vol 8, Issue 239 Does anyone know where I can find a copy of Westward They Came: Clark and Related Families by Doris Herman Kiser? There is a reference to Granville Perry Swift, my G4 grandfather, in it. It is out of print, but I'd like to see what it says. Thank you, Sophie

Agreed. Nothing can replace the expertise of NORCAL.   :-) >________________________________ > From: Dean Micha Desman <deanmicha@yahoo.com> >To: Kathy Minges <kminges2@yahoo.com>; "norcal@rootsweb.com" <norcal@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2013 3:29 PM >Subject: Re: [NORCAL] Where is everyone? > > > >The sfgenealogy site of Facebook is okay but it does replace the expertise of NORCAL. The Facebook site is more "social." They have to constantly remind people it's not for chatting. >  >Dean >  >PS to List Mom: I won't talk about other websites here again. > > > >On Saturday, November 2, 2013 9:44 AM, Kathy Minges <kminges2@yahoo.com> wrote: > >I haven't either. There seems to be more action on Facebook's SF Genealogy group site. > >Kathy Moulthrop Minges > > > >>________________________________ >> From: suzibolton <suzibolton@comcast.net> >>To: norcal@rootsweb.com >>Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2013 9:32 AM >>Subject: [NORCAL] Where is everyone? >> >> >>I haven't been getting anything from NORCAL lately.  Is there trouble out >>there in cyber space, or is it just me? >> >> >> >>Suzanne Bolton >> >> >> >> >> >>----------------------------------------- >>NORCAL ARCHIVES: >>http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ >>Enter NORCAL.  Browse by month. >>Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. >>----------------------------------------- >>To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > >----------------------------------------- >NORCAL ARCHIVES: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ >Enter NORCAL.  Browse by month. >Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. >----------------------------------------- >To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

The sfgenealogy site of Facebook is okay but it does replace the expertise of NORCAL. The Facebook site is more "social." They have to constantly remind people it's not for chatting.   Dean   PS to List Mom: I won't talk about other websites here again. On Saturday, November 2, 2013 9:44 AM, Kathy Minges <kminges2@yahoo.com> wrote: I haven't either. There seems to be more action on Facebook's SF Genealogy group site. Kathy Moulthrop Minges >________________________________ > From: suzibolton <suzibolton@comcast.net> >To: norcal@rootsweb.com >Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2013 9:32 AM >Subject: [NORCAL] Where is everyone? > > >I haven't been getting anything from NORCAL lately.  Is there trouble out >there in cyber space, or is it just me? > > > >Suzanne Bolton > > > > > >----------------------------------------- >NORCAL ARCHIVES: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ >Enter NORCAL.  Browse by month. >Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. >----------------------------------------- >To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL.  Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone know where I can find a copy of Westward They Came: Clark and Related Families by Doris Herman Kiser? There is a reference to Granville Perry Swift, my G4 grandfather, in it. It is out of print, but I'd like to see what it says. Thank you, Sophie > On Nov 2, 2013, at 2:00 AM, norcal-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > NORCAL LIBRARY http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/norcallib.html > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. "Western Wilds and the Men Who Redeem Them" (1878) Calif. & > other states (Peggy B Perazzo) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 11:36:55 -0700 > From: Peggy B Perazzo <pbperazzo@comcast.net> > Subject: [NORCAL] "Western Wilds and the Men Who Redeem Them" (1878) > Calif. & other states > To: Norcal@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <201311011836.rA1Iapgn008150@mail.rootsweb.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Hello everyone: > > I just found this interesting book that includes two sections about > California that's available online on the Internet Archive. > > "Western Wilds and the Men Who Redeem Them," by John Hanson Beadle, > Cincinnati, Chicago (etc.), Jones Brothers & Co., 1878. > https://archive.org/details/westernwildsmenw01bead > > (A couple of the chapters include the California subjects listed > below, and many other states are described: Kansas, Utah, Colorado, > Oklahoma, New Mexico, Arizona, Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Oregon, & > Texas. There are many sketches included.) > > Chapter XII. The Pacific Slope. > > Westward again - Corrine - Promontory - Dead Fall, Murder Gulch, Last > Chance and Painted Post. - "Do me a favor: shoot me through the > head!" - Fine morality of the gamblers - The Great Nevada Desert - > "Sinks" - Up the Truckee - State Line - Down the Sierras - Wonders of > Cape Horn - Sacramento - "San Joeykwin" - Or San Wahkeen? - In Yolo > County - Davisville - Chineses and silk culture - Tules - Fruits and > wine - Does it supersede whiskey? - The California seasons - > "Frisco." - Chinese Theater - The Tragedy of Rip sah - Buddhist > ceremonies - A gloomy sort of religion - 'Top-side Josh - The > devil-drive - "Chinaman like Melica man." pp. 103-116 > > Chapter X. The Wonders of California. > > All aboard for Yosemite! - From chilly 'Frisco' to melting Stockton - > By rail to Milton - Hot drive among the foothills - Cooperopolis - > The broiling stage; air dead calm; thermometer 100 degrees - In the > cool grove at last - The vegetable wonders of the world - A tree > thirty-two feet thick - "Father and Mother" - "Husband and Wife," 250 > feet high - "Uncle Tom's Cabke" - How came they here? - California > names - Over Table Mountain - "Truthful James" - Old mining towns - > Sonora - Chinese Camp - Garrotte - The Tuolumne Grove - Tamarack Flat > - Reminiscences of the "strong-minded." - First view of Yosemite - > Prospect Peak - The terrible descent - A fall 2,667 feet - El > Capitan; Tu-toch-ah-uu-lo - A reverie on Cosmos - Mirror Lake - > Reflected glories - The climb to Nevada Falls - Down to Vernal falls > - The sublime and beautiful - J. M. Hutchings, the pioneer - "Spirit > of the Evil Wind" - "Great Chief of the Valley" - Down hill to San > Francisco - Climate of the Coast - A day at the Cliff House - > Poluphloisboio Thalances (?) - Regretful good-bye to the Pacific > Coast, pp. 140-163 > > Peggy > > Peggy B. Perazzo > pbperazzo@comcast.net > Stone Quarries and Beyond > http://quarriesandbeyond.org/ > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NORCAL list administrator, send an email to > NORCAL-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NORCAL Digest, Vol 8, Issue 239 > **************************************

I haven't either. There seems to be more action on Facebook's SF Genealogy group site. Kathy Moulthrop Minges >________________________________ > From: suzibolton <suzibolton@comcast.net> >To: norcal@rootsweb.com >Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2013 9:32 AM >Subject: [NORCAL] Where is everyone? > > >I haven't been getting anything from NORCAL lately.  Is there trouble out >there in cyber space, or is it just me? > > > >Suzanne Bolton > > > > > >----------------------------------------- >NORCAL ARCHIVES: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ >Enter NORCAL.  Browse by month. >Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. >----------------------------------------- >To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

I haven't been getting anything from NORCAL lately. Is there trouble out there in cyber space, or is it just me? Suzanne Bolton

I'm here -- guess everyone is out enjoying the great weather! Nancy Maass ________________________________ From: suzibolton <suzibolton@comcast.net> To: norcal@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2013 7:32 AM Subject: [NORCAL] Where is everyone? I haven't been getting anything from NORCAL lately.  Is there trouble out there in cyber space, or is it just me? Suzanne Bolton ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL.  Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello everyone: I just found this interesting book that includes two sections about California that's available online on the Internet Archive. "Western Wilds and the Men Who Redeem Them," by John Hanson Beadle, Cincinnati, Chicago (etc.), Jones Brothers & Co., 1878. https://archive.org/details/westernwildsmenw01bead (A couple of the chapters include the California subjects listed below, and many other states are described: Kansas, Utah, Colorado, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Arizona, Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Oregon, & Texas. There are many sketches included.) Chapter XII. The Pacific Slope. Westward again - Corrine - Promontory - Dead Fall, Murder Gulch, Last Chance and Painted Post. - "Do me a favor: shoot me through the head!" - Fine morality of the gamblers - The Great Nevada Desert - "Sinks" - Up the Truckee - State Line - Down the Sierras - Wonders of Cape Horn - Sacramento - "San Joeykwin" - Or San Wahkeen? - In Yolo County - Davisville - Chineses and silk culture - Tules - Fruits and wine - Does it supersede whiskey? - The California seasons - "Frisco." - Chinese Theater - The Tragedy of Rip sah - Buddhist ceremonies - A gloomy sort of religion - 'Top-side Josh - The devil-drive - "Chinaman like Melica man." pp. 103-116 Chapter X. The Wonders of California. All aboard for Yosemite! - From chilly 'Frisco' to melting Stockton - By rail to Milton - Hot drive among the foothills - Cooperopolis - The broiling stage; air dead calm; thermometer 100 degrees - In the cool grove at last - The vegetable wonders of the world - A tree thirty-two feet thick - "Father and Mother" - "Husband and Wife," 250 feet high - "Uncle Tom's Cabke" - How came they here? - California names - Over Table Mountain - "Truthful James" - Old mining towns - Sonora - Chinese Camp - Garrotte - The Tuolumne Grove - Tamarack Flat - Reminiscences of the "strong-minded." - First view of Yosemite - Prospect Peak - The terrible descent - A fall 2,667 feet - El Capitan; Tu-toch-ah-uu-lo - A reverie on Cosmos - Mirror Lake - Reflected glories - The climb to Nevada Falls - Down to Vernal falls - The sublime and beautiful - J. M. Hutchings, the pioneer - "Spirit of the Evil Wind" - "Great Chief of the Valley" - Down hill to San Francisco - Climate of the Coast - A day at the Cliff House - Poluphloisboio Thalances (?) - Regretful good-bye to the Pacific Coast, pp. 140-163 Peggy Peggy B. Perazzo pbperazzo@comcast.net Stone Quarries and Beyond http://quarriesandbeyond.org/

Dear Listers, Can someone please help this Norwegian find an obituary for: Charles Brazil DODGE born Dec. 15, 1894 in Renville Co., MN died Aug. 1, 1964 in Sacramento, CA Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:00 AM, <norcal-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > phoua yang -- Robert Stacey has moved to Casa Glendale where he is surrounded by lords and ladies of all kinds. Emeritus Glendale is the best.

In a message dated 10/3/13 12:18:40 PM, marigoldsglen@yahoo.com writes: > > http://www.appeal-democrat.com/articles/morning-106851-shooting-department.html > She can contact the Coroner in the county; I feel sure that this death will be in his jurisdiction and burial arrangements will be known to him, and probably to the sheriff, as well. Cathy Marin Co., CA

thanks to all who responded to my request !  As usual, the members of this list are AWESOME !!! ________________________________ From: "CYLGowdy@aol.com" <CYLGowdy@aol.com> To: marigoldsglen@yahoo.com; joanbancroft@sbcglobal.net; norcal@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2013 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [NORCAL] phoua yang grave site In a message dated 10/3/13 12:18:40 PM, marigoldsglen@yahoo.com writes: http://www.appeal-democrat.com/articles/morning-106851-shooting-department.html > She can contact the Coroner in the county; I feel sure that this death will be in his jurisdiction and burial arrangements will be known to him, and probably to the sheriff, as well. Cathy Marin Co., CA

Joan,   Can this be the Phouna Yang this person is looking for?  http://www.appeal-democrat.com/articles/morning-106851-shooting-department.html   I'm not sure how to guess where he is buried -- maybe she can give you a little more information?  I found nothing regarding an obit or burial.   Susan ________________________________ From: Joan Bancroft <joanbancroft@sbcglobal.net> To: "norcal@rootsweb.com" <norcal@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2013 9:48 AM Subject: [NORCAL] phoua yang grave site ________________________________ I volunteer at the Paradise Genealogical society doing obit lookups and recently we received this request we've been unable to help with.  Can anyone give this woman the information she's requesting? > Subject: Trying to find a friends grave site > From: leslie_weger@icloud.com > Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 22:30:15 -0700 > To: ButteObits@Hotmail.com > > My friend died May 2011 his name is phoua yang please I'm trying to find his grave site thank you > Sent from my iPhone

________________________________ I volunteer at the Paradise Genealogical society doing obit lookups and recently we received this request we've been unable to help with.  Can anyone give this woman the information she's requesting? > Subject: Trying to find a friends grave site > From: leslie_weger@icloud.com > Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 22:30:15 -0700 > To: ButteObits@Hotmail.com > > My friend died May 2011 his name is phoua yang please I'm trying to find his grave site thank you > Sent from my iPhone

In a message dated 10/2/13 1:48:03 AM, jdpmacct@gmail.com writes: > I have searched high and low for obituary or death records for Jones M. > Weeks also known as Matthew Jones Weeks,  without success.  Jones was born > 20 March 1898 and died 23 October 1927. Parents were William C. Weeks and > Mary Carroll Jones of Cloverdale, Sonoma County and Boonville, Mendocino > County, California. At time of WWI enlistment in the U.S. Army, 1917 to 1919, > Jones Weeks was living at 1120 Humboldt Street, Santa Rosa, California. He > married Ruth May Hawks about 1923 and was likely residing in Santa Rosa,  > California. > Jones M. Weeks died 23 Oct 1927 Santa Clara County. Cathy Marin Co., CA "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast" - unknown

I have searched high and low for obituary or death records for Jones M. Weeks also known as Matthew Jones Weeks, without success. Jones was born 20 March 1898 and died 23 October 1927. Parents were William C. Weeks and Mary Carroll Jones of Cloverdale, Sonoma County and Boonville, Mendocino County, California. At time of WWI enlistment in the U.S. Army, 1917 to 1919, Jones Weeks was living at 1120 Humboldt Street, Santa Rosa, California. He married Ruth May Hawks about 1923 and was likely residing in Santa Rosa, California. Sent from my Kindle Fire

Marilyn, They are in the 1940 Indian Census of Humboldt County - James is living with his grandfather, Weaver Denman...in fact he is in the Indian Census of 1934, age 2, living with his grandfather. I've sent this information to the lady. If I found the correct one, he died in San Joaquin County - I don't remember the date. Flavia On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Marilyn Demas <theschoolbell@yahoo.com>wrote: > This is interesting because there were Denman's in Ca, a Schoolboard > member if not Supt of Schools, in the 1870's. One wonders how/when James' > family became Hoopa. > > > ________________________________ > From: "scrapsbratt@aol.com" <scrapsbratt@aol.com> > To: norcal@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 3:58 AM > Subject: [NORCAL] 1940 census > > > I have been trying to find James Raymond Denman on the 1940 census. > > > He was born June 25 1932. It appears he belonged to the Hoopa Tribe in > Humboldt Co. > Was there a separate census for the Indians? > > > Betty > > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is interesting because there were Denman's in Ca, a Schoolboard member if not Supt of Schools, in the 1870's. One wonders how/when James' family became Hoopa. ________________________________ From: "scrapsbratt@aol.com" <scrapsbratt@aol.com> To: norcal@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 3:58 AM Subject: [NORCAL] 1940 census I have been trying to find James Raymond Denman on the 1940 census. He was born June 25 1932. It appears he belonged to the Hoopa Tribe in Humboldt Co. Was there a separate census for the Indians? Betty ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL.  Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am still able to access HERITAGE QUEST online through the LA County Library http://www.colapublib.org/ Click on Research and Learning then Click on Genealogy. This is usually a county purchased subscription. Margie -----Original Message----- >From: Yvonne Bowers <ybowers@gmail.com> >Sent: Sep 29, 2013 8:13 PM >To: "norcal@rootsweb.com" <norcal@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [NORCAL] HERITAGE QUEST > >From: Susan Stuart <marigoldsglen@yahoo.com> >To: "norcal@rootsweb.com" <norcal@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 2:23 PM >Subject: Re: [NORCAL] NORCAL Digest, Vol 8, Issue 231 > >I don't know how old this link is but maybe it will help: http://www.eogen.com/HeritageQuestOnlineStatesAtoE > >Susan > >From: rob stace <robert.rbobbyleestacy@gmail.com> >To: norcal@rootsweb.com >Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 2:04 AM >Subject: Re: [NORCAL] NORCAL Digest, Vol 8, Issue 231 > >la public library has dropped heritage quest. Are there any other libraries >close by who offer it?

From: Susan Stuart <marigoldsglen@yahoo.com> To: "norcal@rootsweb.com" <norcal@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [NORCAL] NORCAL Digest, Vol 8, Issue 231 I don't know how old this link is but maybe it will help: http://www.eogen.com/HeritageQuestOnlineStatesAtoE Susan From: rob stace <robert.rbobbyleestacy@gmail.com> To: norcal@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 2:04 AM Subject: Re: [NORCAL] NORCAL Digest, Vol 8, Issue 231 la public library has dropped heritage quest. Are there any other libraries close by who offer it?