This is almost my story, except it does contain mother's name, but no hospital and we are wondering about the birth State...the certificate has Oregon, but we are almost certain the birth was in Stockton, CA. Flavia On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 5:59 PM, <pierini@comcast.net> wrote: > There was a stepparent adoption in my family tree during the late 1940's > in San Francisco. The birth hospital remained the same, but a totally new > birth certificate was issued without any detail - including the mothers > maiden name! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "flavia hodges" <flavia1418@gmail.com> > To: norcal@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 3:20:05 PM > Subject: Re: [NORCAL] Adoption > > Thanks to all for their input. My only experience had been with an > adoption from a children's home with neither parent involved and it > resulted in the original birth certificate being sealed. That was in Iowa > and it would appear the basics are pretty much the same. > Flavia > > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Sherry Harris <rebelsher1@aol.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi Favia - I'm not sure about the 1940's, but in 1972 my 2nd husband > > adopted my daughter who was 4. Her original birth certificate was sealed > > and a new one showing her step-father as her father was issued. > > > > > > Sherry Harris > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: flavia hodges <flavia1418@gmail.com> > > To: norcal <norcal@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tue, Jan 21, 2014 1:59 pm > > Subject: [NORCAL] Adoption > > > > > > Does anyone know - if a child, under age 5, is adopted by his stepfather, > > is the original birth certificate sealed and a new one issued? This > would > > have been between 1940-42. > > Flavia > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > > ----------------------------------------- > > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > > NORCAL@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body > > of > > the message > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > > ----------------------------------------- > > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > > NORCAL@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That may vary from state to state and the childs age. I'm aware of our family having a step-parent adoption of a teenaged child in Missouri and there were court records filed, but never any mention of a change to the birth certificate. -----Original Message----- From: Sherry Harris <rebelsher1@aol.com> To: norcal <norcal@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Jan 21, 2014 3:05 pm Subject: Re: [NORCAL] Adoption i Favia - I'm not sure about the 1940's, but in 1972 my 2nd husband adopted my aughter who was 4. Her original birth certificate was sealed and a new one howing her step-father as her father was issued. herry Harris ----Original Message----- rom: flavia hodges <flavia1418@gmail.com> o: norcal <norcal@rootsweb.com> ent: Tue, Jan 21, 2014 1:59 pm ubject: [NORCAL] Adoption oes anyone know - if a child, under age 5, is adopted by his stepfather, s the original birth certificate sealed and a new one issued? This would ave been between 1940-42. lavia ---------------------------------------- ORCAL ARCHIVES: ttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/ nter NORCAL. Browse by month. r click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ---------------------------------------- o post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to ORCAL@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ---------------------------------------- ORCAL ARCHIVES: ttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/ nter NORCAL. Browse by month. r click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ---------------------------------------- o post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to ORCAL@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Sorry that was supposed to say, Flavia. :) My daughter was born in Panama, but the step-parent adoption was done in CA. BTW, there was all kinds of paperwork including letters from people who knew my husband saying he was a good guy. Plus papers from my ex-husband giving up his rights as her biological father. Sherry Harris -----Original Message----- From: flavia hodges <flavia1418@gmail.com> To: norcal <norcal@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Jan 21, 2014 1:59 pm Subject: [NORCAL] Adoption Does anyone know - if a child, under age 5, is adopted by his stepfather, is the original birth certificate sealed and a new one issued? This would have been between 1940-42. Flavia ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry that was supposed to say, Flavia. :) My daughter was born in Panama, but the step-parent adoption was done in CA. BTW, there was all kinds of paperwork including letters from people who knew my husband saying he was a good guy. Plus papers from my ex-husband giving up his rights as her biological father. Sherry Harris -----Original Message----- From: flavia hodges <flavia1418@gmail.com> To: norcal <norcal@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Jan 21, 2014 1:59 pm Subject: [NORCAL] Adoption Does anyone know - if a child, under age 5, is adopted by his stepfather, is the original birth certificate sealed and a new one issued? This would have been between 1940-42. Flavia ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Favia - I'm not sure about the 1940's, but in 1972 my 2nd husband adopted my daughter who was 4. Her original birth certificate was sealed and a new one showing her step-father as her father was issued. Sherry Harris -----Original Message----- From: flavia hodges <flavia1418@gmail.com> To: norcal <norcal@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Jan 21, 2014 1:59 pm Subject: [NORCAL] Adoption Does anyone know - if a child, under age 5, is adopted by his stepfather, is the original birth certificate sealed and a new one issued? This would have been between 1940-42. Flavia ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to all for their input. My only experience had been with an adoption from a children's home with neither parent involved and it resulted in the original birth certificate being sealed. That was in Iowa and it would appear the basics are pretty much the same. Flavia On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Sherry Harris <rebelsher1@aol.com> wrote: > > Hi Favia - I'm not sure about the 1940's, but in 1972 my 2nd husband > adopted my daughter who was 4. Her original birth certificate was sealed > and a new one showing her step-father as her father was issued. > > > Sherry Harris > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: flavia hodges <flavia1418@gmail.com> > To: norcal <norcal@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tue, Jan 21, 2014 1:59 pm > Subject: [NORCAL] Adoption > > > Does anyone know - if a child, under age 5, is adopted by his stepfather, > is the original birth certificate sealed and a new one issued? This would > have been between 1940-42. > Flavia > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 1:57 PM, flavia hodges <flavia1418@gmail.com> wrote: > Does anyone know - if a child, under age 5, is adopted by his stepfather, > is the original birth certificate sealed and a new one issued? This would > have been between 1940-42. > Flavia > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Three of my cousins were adopted by their stepfather in the early sixties. They had two different birth fathers and in each case they were issued new birth certificates with their step dad's name. And these girls were all in their teens. EdrieAnne On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Sherry Harris <rebelsher1@aol.com> wrote: > > Sorry that was supposed to say, Flavia. :) My daughter was born in > Panama, but the step-parent adoption was done in CA. BTW, there was all > kinds of paperwork including letters from people who knew my husband saying > he was a good guy. Plus papers from my ex-husband giving up his rights as > her biological father. > > > Sherry Harris > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: flavia hodges <flavia1418@gmail.com> > To: norcal <norcal@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tue, Jan 21, 2014 1:59 pm > Subject: [NORCAL] Adoption > > > > Does anyone know - if a child, under age 5, is adopted by his stepfather, > is the original birth certificate sealed and a new one issued? This would > have been between 1940-42. > Flavia > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Does anyone know - if a child, under age 5, is adopted by his stepfather, is the original birth certificate sealed and a new one issued? This would have been between 1940-42. Flavia

Hi Bob, I am embarrassed to say that I did have Renee's death as well as her birth information. The person I am really interested in is Elston George Lowrie's father, George Elston Lowrie. (I see he drpped the first name of George.) I think he is the same person that was in Plainfield, NJ in the 1900 census as a newspaper advertising agent. There is a George Elston Lowrie in Muncie, IN in 1917; in Jacksonville, FL in 1922 and in Shreveport, LA in 1924, all of them in sales or newspaper work. Shreveport is where Elston George Lowrie was born in 1924. George Elston Lowrie was born in 1862 and I think he was divorced from his first wife Bertha Rosina Close. He also had a son George Elston Lowrie, Jr. in 1894. I would love to be able to tie these two men together. George Lowrie is a very common name, but George Elston Lowrie is not. Nancy Lowrie Wright in south Louisiana ----- Original Message ----- Nancy, Since Victoria does not appear in CABI and if the father was unavailable due to being in the military, I would suggest the mother went home to be with her mother in Memphis for the birth. The second daughter's birth was announced in the Galveston Daily News, 5/21/1950, page 18. (Ancestry.com) § Renee June Lowrie Mr. and Mrs. Elston Lowrie of Memphis, Tenn., announce the birth of a daughter, Renee June, on May 15 or 18 (I can't tell if the last digit is a 5 or 8) in Memphis. Grandmothers are Mrs. G. E. Lowrie of Galveston and Mrs. Irene R. Patton of Memphis. Mrs. G. E. Lowrie is visiting in Memphis. § Sadly, I see that the Tennessee, Death and Burials Index, 1874-1955 on Ancestry shows that she died on June 13, 1950 It is possible the Victoria's birth was also announced in the Galveston Daily News, but I couldn't find it. I did see several articles covering the travels of Mrs. G. E. Lowrie to Memphis and to California and one announcing that family came out from California for a visit. Bob

Nancy,   Since Victoria does not appear in CABI and if the father was unavailable due to being in the military, I would suggest the mother went home to be with her mother in Memphis for the birth.   The second daughter's birth was announced in the Galveston Daily News, 5/21/1950, page 18. (Ancestry.com) § Renee June Lowrie     Mr. and Mrs. Elston Lowrie of Memphis, Tenn., announce the birth of a daughter, Renee June, on May 15 or 18 (I can't tell if the last digit is a 5 or 8) in Memphis. Grandmothers are Mrs. G. E. Lowrie of Galveston and Mrs. Irene R. Patton of Memphis.     Mrs. G. E. Lowrie is visiting in Memphis. § Sadly, I see that the Tennessee, Death and Burials Index, 1874-1955 on Ancestry shows that she died on June 13, 1950   It is possible the Victoria's birth was also announced in the Galveston Daily News, but I couldn't find it. I did see several articles covering the travels of Mrs. G. E. Lowrie to Memphis and to California and one announcing that family came out from California for a visit.   Bob ________________________________ From: Nancy <wright4766@bellsouth.net> To: norcal@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [NORCAL] Calif Birth Index Thanks Sharon, That is too late, but the daughter's names are right.  I believe the second daughter Renee June was born about 1950 in Tenn. And thanks Gail, I will bookmark that site so I can do my own lookups.  I have several pages printed out from years ago, but I wasn't looking for these people then. Nancy L. Wright in Louisiana ----- Original Message ----- From: <DULCICH6@aol.com> Subject: Re: [NORCAL] Calif Birth Index >I didn't find any birth between a Patton mother and a Lowrie father nor any > for Vic% (wildcard) Lowrie. I did find one listing for Victoria Patricia > Lowry  born 16 Sep 1955, mother's name was Neville and she was born in Los > Angeles  Co. > > Sharon > Kern Co. ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL.  Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I didn't find any birth between a Patton mother and a Lowrie father nor any for Vic% (wildcard) Lowrie. I did find one listing for Victoria Patricia Lowry born 16 Sep 1955, mother's name was Neville and she was born in Los Angeles Co. Sharon Kern Co. In a message dated 1/20/2014 6:22:06 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, wright4766@bellsouth.net writes: I thought Rootsweb still had the CABI, but I can't find it. Can anyone help me find a birth date for Vicki Pat Lowrie. Her father was in the service and stationed in California. I believe he was in the Navy. She was born about 1944-1947. Maybe in Contra Costa County. She may have been born in TN where her parents were from and where they returned to after his term of service. Her mother's maiden name was probably Patton. Nancvy Lowrie Wright ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Sharon, That is too late, but the daughter's names are right. I believe the second daughter Renee June was born about 1950 in Tenn. And thanks Gail, I will bookmark that site so I can do my own lookups. I have several pages printed out from years ago, but I wasn't looking for these people then. Nancy L. Wright in Louisiana ----- Original Message ----- From: <DULCICH6@aol.com> Subject: Re: [NORCAL] Calif Birth Index >I didn't find any birth between a Patton mother and a Lowrie father nor any > for Vic% (wildcard) Lowrie. I did find one listing for Victoria Patricia > Lowry born 16 Sep 1955, mother's name was Neville and she was born in Los > Angeles Co. > > Sharon > Kern Co.

This is the one I use. Gail http://www.familytreelegends.com/records/calbirths ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy" <wright4766@bellsouth.net> To: <norcal@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 8:18 PM Subject: [NORCAL] Calif Birth Index >I thought Rootsweb still had the CABI, but I can't find it. Can anyone >help me find a birth date for Vicki Pat Lowrie. Her father was in the >service and stationed in California. I believe he was in the Navy. She >was born about 1944-1947. Maybe in Contra Costa County. > > She may have been born in TN where her parents were from and where they > returned to after his term of service. > > Her mother's maiden name was probably Patton. > > Nancvy Lowrie Wright > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I thought Rootsweb still had the CABI, but I can't find it. Can anyone help me find a birth date for Vicki Pat Lowrie. Her father was in the service and stationed in California. I believe he was in the Navy. She was born about 1944-1947. Maybe in Contra Costa County. She may have been born in TN where her parents were from and where they returned to after his term of service. Her mother's maiden name was probably Patton. Nancvy Lowrie Wright

Thanks. That is the correct fellow...still looking for a death in California. On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:03 PM, Marge Campbell <margecam52@valornet.com>wrote: > I did a google search for the village & Charles H Hatzenbuhler...this came > up: > > http://fulton.nygenweb.net/cemeteries/BRVillageCemH.html > Broadalbin Village Cemetery > > You had the village name in the obit. It's in New York. I hope this is > the > correct fellah & solves your mystery. > > Marge Campbell > Littlefield, TX > > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This site has many New York newspapers. I did not try searching for your Hazenbuhler, but there may be new information here for you. It is a free site but you have to register. http://fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html Nancy in Louisiana

I did a google search for the village & Charles H Hatzenbuhler...this came up: http://fulton.nygenweb.net/cemeteries/BRVillageCemH.html Broadalbin Village Cemetery You had the village name in the obit. It's in New York. I hope this is the correct fellah & solves your mystery. Marge Campbell Littlefield, TX --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Sent to me by Rob Stace: Broadalbin (village), New York - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadalbin_(village),_New_York Broadalbin is a village in Fulton County, New York, United States. The population was 1,327 at the 2010 census. The name is derived from a region in Scotland.

GOOD JOB, efern! Darned shame there is no source. Would love to know what 'village' In a message dated 1/13/2014 4:24:21 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, efern@pacbell.net writes: Have you seen this: "Word has been received of the death of Charles Hatzenbuhler, which occured in a hospital in Stockton, California, Monday. Mr. Hatzenbuhler had been ill for a year and a half. He was 36 years old and was the son of Mrs. William Hatzenbuhler of Broadalbin. He was a resident of Broadalbin for ten years and had many friends in this village and vicinity.. Besides his mother, he is survived by his wife, Mrs. Ethel Hatzenbuhler, of Stockton, Calif.; three brothers, Supervisor William Hatzenbuhler of this village, Jacob Hatzenbuhler of Johnstown, and Uriah Hatzenbuhler of Oneonta; also one sister, Dulcie Hatzenbuhler of Broadalbin.. The remains will be brought to this village for interment.". No date ----- Original Message ----- From: "flavia hodges" <flavia1418@gmail.com> To: <norcal@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [NORCAL] Charles Henry Hatzenbuhler > Thanks, Cathy, for the confirmation that he is not there. I've been > searching for several days. His marriage in 1933 is shown on > familysearch.org, the license and certificate...from there he disappears. > His widow moved to Oregon, married again, and had a new family. > Flavia > > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 2:51 PM, <CYLGowdy@aol.com> wrote: > >> The name must have gotten messed up because I cannot find him listed in >> the >> CA Death Index and I haven't guessed at the right spelling.... >> >> >> >> Cathy >> Marin Co., CA >> >> >> To forget one's ancestors is to be a brook without a source, a tree >> without >> a root. >> ~Chinese proverb >> >> >> ----------------------------------------- >> NORCAL ARCHIVES: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ >> Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. >> Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. >> ----------------------------------------- >> To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to >> NORCAL@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message