For the History Channel show on 1906, this is a better link. Bill http://www.history.com/shows.do?episodeId=428032&action=detail

The History Channel will feature 1906, the Mega Disaster. Click on link below for your local station and times. Bill http://www.history.com/

Pat, My guess is that the murdered brother was John A. Kester as there were only two Kesters living in Hay Fork, Trinity County, California. This is from www calarchives.com: Trinity County, CA 1885 Directory ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ List of names by town - County History at bottom (I've clipped a lot out.) HAY FORK This post office town, situated on Hay Fork - a branch of the south fork of The Trinity - is the center of the principal agricultural section of the County, although even here the quantity of good farming land is limited. The Chief products are hay and wheat, which find a ready market in Weaverville Some mining is also carried on in the neighborhood. The town has two general Stores, a hotel, and the usual adjuncts of a mining and farming town. The Population of the town and tributary country is about two hundred. Barker, David E. V. - farmer 400 acres Barnes, George W. - miner Bayles, Adam D. - postmaster, flour mill, stockraiser 160 acres Bush, George W. - farmer 10 acres Carter, John W. - hotel & saloon 300 acres Conlin, John - stockraiser DeLong, George S. - farmer 160 acres Detrick, Daniel C. - miner Drinkwater, W. C. - farmer 320 acres Duncan, Alfred B. - farmer 240 acres Farmer, William Ferinheough, William - farmer/stockraiser 40 acres Francis, Timothy M. - farmer Gardiner, James - laborer George, Beriah M. - farmer 320 acres Grigsby, Lafayette - farmer 160 acres Grigsby, Wm. J. - farmer 120 acres Hailstone, John T. - farmer 280 acres Hampton, James M. - stockraiser Hoyt, Jonathan S. - miner, farmer 180 acres James, Walter W. - blacksmith Kellogg, Langdon J. - hotel, saloon, 260 acres Kerlin, Samuel - farmer 160 acres Kester Bros. - miners Kester, John A. - Kester Bros. Kester, Josephus - Kester Bros. I also found this: Jackson County OR Archives Deaths.....Farmer, Belzora April 27, 1924 ************************************************ Copyright. All rights reserved. http://www.usgwarchives.org/copyright.htm http://www.usgwarchives.org/or/orfiles.htm ************************************************ File contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by: Elizabeth C jaxsearch@hotmail.com May 11, 2006, 9:48 PM Name: Farmer, Belzora Date Of Death: April 27, 1924 Time: 10:55 PM Place Of Death: RFD #1, Gold Hill Residence: RFD #1 Gender: Female Race: W Age: 77y-3m-1d Marital Status: Widowed Spouse: Not given, Not given Date Of Birth: December 26, 1846 Place Of Birth: Missouri Mother's Name: Galbraith, Elmira Mother's Birthplace: Kentucky Father's Name: Kester, Henry Father's Birthplace: Virginia Cause Of Death: Carcinoma of stomach, 1 year Hospital: Unavailable SS Number: Unavailable Occupation: Housekeeper Funeral Home: H W Conger, Medford Doctor: W P Chisholm, Gold Hill Coroner: Unavailable Informant: Josephus Kester, Gold Hill Date Of Burial: May 1, 1924 Place Of Burial: Hayfork, Cal Date Recorded: April 28, 1924 Source Of Record: Oregon Certificate of Death Certificate No.: 114 Additional Comments: Length of residence in city or town where death occurred, 10 years There is also a Josephus Kester listed in the Jackson County (Oregon) Pioneer Index as well as in Madison County, Iowa and in Arkansas. Search using Google for Josephus Kester. There are many places the name shows up and may or may not be the same person. George -------Original Message------- From: Pat Linton Date: 01/12/10 01:06:20 To: NORCAL@rootsweb.com Subject: [NORCAL] THE PARDON OF KESTER Many years ago I received a xerox copy of a newspaper article from a very distant cousin. I do not know what newspaper it was in, but there was the date of "Feb. 20, 1892" handwritten on the article. The cousin who sent me the article did not know anymore about it. The article has never been easy to read and is now very faded and almost impossible to read. Years ago I handwrote it out, so the article is as follows: THE PARDON OF KESTER

Many years ago I received a xerox copy of a newspaper article from a very distant cousin.  I do not know what newspaper it was in, but there was the date of "Feb. 20, 1892" handwritten on the article.  The cousin who sent me the article did not know anymore about it.  The article has never been easy to read and is now very faded and almost impossible to read.  Years ago I handwrote it out, so the article is as follows:   THE PARDON OF KESTER        Among the recommendations for pardon published in the "Chronicle" of the 15th inst., we notice the following:        Josephus Kester, who was found guilty of the killing of his half brother in Trinity county, has also applied for a pardon.  Judge Bell, who sentenced him to twelve years imprisonment, has written to the Governor urging him to exercise executive clemency in Kester's behalf.  He states that if the prisoner had been properly defended he would not have been adjudged guilty of murder.  His dead relative is pictured as a bad man who was never without a gun.  Kester is represented as an industrious and peaceful fellow.        Hon. W. J. Cr----- and D. G. Real (sp), Esq. conducted the defense and we have heard many complimentary remarks on the able manner in which Kester was defended, and the general impression prevails that if he had not "been properly defended" he would have swung from the gallows".  Had the victim been other than a brother there might have been more mercy shown the accused by the jury as prior to the murder Joe had always born a good reputation.  While there may have been some extenuating circumstances connected with the shooting they could not fail to have less weight than they would have had in a case where the parties were in no way related.        The sharp ammadversion (sp) heaped upon the head of Judge Bell by the citizens of this community must make his ears tingle and the chills run down his spine, if there is any foundation for Mark Twain's  theory of "mental telegraphy".  At this time we have nothing to say regarding  the merits of the case, but as Judge Bell presided at the trial and now states that if Kester "had been properly defended he would not have been adjudged guilty of murder", why did he not give the prisoner a lighter sentence?  One of the attorneys in the case called Bell a monohippie Judge, and we are inclined to the same conviction as he does not stick to the sentence imposed by him.   The Kester in this trial was a brother to my 2nd great grandmother, Medora Ann Kester.  I would so much like to know which brother he killed, etc.    Any help would be greatly appreciated!   Pat       

I have a "guest book" that people signed when they visited a cottage in Chemeketka park in the Santa Cruz Mtns. owned by Walter and Louise McKelvey and son Leo who lived on Fruitvale Avenue in Oakland in the 1930 census.. I have no connection to any of this. Someone found the book a yard sale or ?? and passed it on to me years ago where it sat because the ability to track people hadn't developed as far as it has today. I read a lot of the "thank yous" in the book and figured out the McKelvey family names and then did a census search and found them. I'd love to pass this along to some descendant. The census shows the parents were originally from Canada.....born in the late 1800s. If you know where this needs to go I'd appreciate hearing from you and I'm sure the family would too. Barbara Sacramento

I mentioned this before but here it is again. The Marysville Packard Library has the California Room with lots of records of early Marysville. Great Registers, newspapers etc. They also have Earl Ramey's index to the early newspapers. A great source for Marysville and Yuba Co. research. Karen

I am looking for any information on my great grandfather John Ferguson Barrie. He lived in Marysville from 1856 until his death in 2/7/1904. He had two sons John and Tom and a daughter Mary Jane. I believe he was a farmer. Sandy

You might also try newspaperabstracts.com and newspaperarchives.com Hope this helps! Cheri Marybeth Michaels wrote: > Hi, > > Quite a while ago I found out there is an announcement about the divorce of > my great-great-grandparents, Heinrich and Sophie Janicke, in the San Jose > newspaper, I think in 1894. Unfortunately, something called me away from > the computer suddenly, and before I had a chance to look for it again, I > completely forgot where I had been looking. Weak-brained I know. But can > someone tell me a good website to look this info up? > > Thanks a million. > > Marybeth Michaels > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

In a message dated 1/11/10 3:48:13 PM, mbmichaels@gmail.com writes: > Quite a while ago I found out there is an announcement about the divorce > of > my great-great-grandparents, Heinrich and Sophie Janicke, in the San Jose > newspaper, I think in 1894. > Might have been GenealogyBank.com. I have found the San Jose paper in their database in the past. Cathy Marin Co., CA

http://www.kingcityrustler.com/V2_news_articles.php?heading=0&story_id=283&page=75 Orrin Howard Harder, formerly of Soledad Orrin Howard Harder died at home in Walnut Creek on Veterans Day, Nov. 11. He was born in Soledad almost 87 years earlier, on New Year's Eve in 1921 to Beth and Otto Harder. His grandparents, Henry and Emelia Harder, immigrants from Germany, had homesteaded in the hills just south of town in the 1880s, where they raised five children: Hertha, Otto, Hilda, Roy, and Alma. The girls married and moved to the Bay Area, but the boys raised their families in Soledad. Otto drove a school bus for many years and Roy was a mail carrier. He married Katie Baetschen of King City. Beth's grandparents, Heinrich and Sophie Janicke, also had a homestead in the same area. They had also come from Germany, along with their five children: Elizabeth, Mary, Johanna, Albertina, and Charly. Johanna married a butcher, John Krumholz, in San Francisco, but the other four all married local homesteaders. Elizabeth married Joseph Fabry. Mary married Henry Schmidt. Albertina married Charles Nonneman, and Charly married Jesse Smith. Only Mary moved away. After their house burned in the 1906 earthquake, Johanna and John Krumholz moved to the Janicke ranch with their two daughters, Beth and Emily, who attended the old Orchard School, located on the road to the Pinnacles, where Beth met her future husband. Beth and Otto were married after World War I. They raised their two sons, Orrin and Roy on Dixie Street in Soledad. Orrin had many fond memories of growing up in Soledad, where he hunted rabbits by the river and rode horses to the Pinnacles. He loved to play bicycle tag with his young friends. Their only rule was that they could not go outside of the city limits. The town was much smaller in the 1920s. He also used to ride his bike out Metz Road to pick up milk from a dairy for his mother. He enjoyed the big local picnics, where steaks and enchiladas were the main attractions to a growing boy. He loved to watch the trains run through town, and developed a lifelong love of steam engines. Orrin attended the Soledad Grammar School and Gonzales Union High School. As a young man he had a job drying apricots in Greenfield. Then he went to Hartnell Community College and planned to become an engineer. But the attack on Pearl Harbor interrupted his plans, so he went to the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy at Kings Point in New York, where his education consisted mostly of serving on a Liberty Ship, the Peter H. Burnett, until it was hit by a torpedo in 1943. He graduated with a commission as an ensign in the U.S. Navy. He spent most of the next two years at sea. Some of his strongest memories were of his participation in landing troops at Okinawa, Guadalcanal, Salerno in Italy, and St. Tropez in France. After the war he attended UC Berkley, where he lived at the International House and graduated with a degree in civil engineering. In 1947 he married Norma Miller of San Francisco, had two daughters and moved to Walnut Creek, where he lived from 1957 to 2008. He began working for East Bay Municipal Utility District in Oakland, where he rose to the position of chief engineer. Over the years he was involved in many projects, including the planning and building of Camanche Dam, completed in 1964. He retired in 1984, about the same time he retired as a Captain in the U.S. Naval Reserve. Orrin enjoyed traveling in the U.S. and Europe with Norma, building model airplanes, camping and hiking at California's National and State Parks with his family, planting a big annual vegetable garden, and taking walks with his dogs: Kobuk, Bouncer, and Blackie. He grew delicious tomatoes, but the pride and joy of his garden were the blackberry and grape vines he had grown from cuttings taken from his parent's house in Soledad, which had originally come from old local stock. As an adult he made many visits to his family and friends in Soledad. He enjoyed leading his daughters through the caves at the Pinnacles, teaching them to stay away from poison oak at the Arroyo Seco, and taking them to visit the ruins of the old Soledad Mission. The most memorable visit to the Mission was when the family discovered a dead, smelly skunk in the chapel! Orrin was preceded in death by his wife, Norma. He is survived by his daughters; Marybeth Michaels of Anderson, Alaska, and Susan Harder of Washougal, Wash., his brother, Raymond Harder of Santa Rosa; by cousins Bernice Benadom of Salinas, and George Panzer of Guinda; by his close friends Marvin and Karla Wolfe of Salinas; and by many other cousins, nephews, family members and friends. A memorial gathering was held in Walnut Creek on Nov. 23. ----- Original Message ----- From: <cylgowdy@aol.com> To: <norcal@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 15:52 Subject: Re: [NORCAL] divorce announcement > > In a message dated 1/11/10 3:48:13 PM, mbmichaels@gmail.com writes: > > >> Quite a while ago I found out there is an announcement about the divorce >> of >> my great-great-grandparents, Heinrich and Sophie Janicke, in the San Jose >> newspaper, I think in 1894. >> > > Might have been GenealogyBank.com. > I have found the San Jose paper in their database in the past. > > > > Cathy > Marin Co., CA > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. 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Hi Marybeth, I found the item on GenealogyBank.com: San Jose Mercury News July 11, 1890 Court Notes Sophie Janicke has brought action for divorce from Henry Janicke on the ground of extreme cruelty. She asks that the community property be awarded her, that he be compelled to pay the expenses of the suit together with counsel fees an a reasonable alimony. Archer & Bowden represent the plaintiff. Also: San Jose Mercury News September 17, 1890 Divorces Granted Sophie Janicke has been granted a dvroce from her husband, Henry Janicke, by Judge Spencer on the ground of extreme cruelty. Hope this helps, Anita C. Monterey County Marybeth Michaels wrote: > Hi, > > Quite a while ago I found out there is an announcement about the divorce of > my great-great-grandparents, Heinrich and Sophie Janicke, in the San Jose > newspaper, I think in 1894. Unfortunately, something called me away from > the computer suddenly, and before I had a chance to look for it again, I > completely forgot where I had been looking. Weak-brained I know. But can > someone tell me a good website to look this info up? > > Thanks a million. > > Marybeth Michaels >

I opine Wincklepleck was guilty of good looks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Loose" <betty@unisette.com> To: <norcal@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 3:10 PM Subject: [NORCAL] Sac Union July 2 1880 Sacramento Daily Record-Union Friday July 2, 1880 EMOTIONAL INSANITY A Sacramento jury has just acquitted Mrs. HAMILTON, who was put on trial for attempting to murder a young girl named Nettie WINCKLEPLECK. The defendant, as was alleged under the influence of jealousy, fired a pistol at the girl several times, inflicting severe wounds upon her. The defense was "emotional insanity;" the most (not legible) and comprehensive one imaginable, since nobody can define it, and not two medical men can be got to agree upon what constitutes it. We cannot be sure that the jury in this case accepted the plea of emotional insanity. They may have believed that the defendant was justified in trying to kill the girl, for juries are proverbially eccentric in their views. But the plea itself is one which might easily appeal to ignorant minds, and the whole subject of insanity is so difficult and obscure that lawyers may puzzle even intelligent juries by merely citing conflicting authorities upon it. The question of responsibility in connection with mental disease has, however, been ably and exhaustively treated by Maudaley, who is unquestionably the highest authority upon mental pathology and physiology now living. His conclusion is, broadly speaking, that when crime is committed in a thoroughly deliberate and purposeful manner, and when the alleged or presumptive motive of the crime is such as to appear reasonable to sane minds, the responsibility of the criminal ought to be assumed, even though the presence of an hereditary tendency to mania may be demonstrated. It has for sometime been apparent that some such line would have eventually to be drawn, for the loose and convenient phrase ìemotional insanityî can be made to fit any conceivable circumstances. All that is required is to assume that a person may become mad for a moment, during which the crime is committed, and then revert to sanity, and any case whatever may thus be covered. The relations of insanity to jurisprudence have in fact never yet been properly defined or established, and one result is that a great many flagrant failures of justice constantly occur. Emotional insanity is far too vague and misty a plea to be allowed, if murders and murderous assaults are to be discouraged, and in all probability it will be found necessary before long to adopt Maudaley's suggestion in regard to the limits of responsibility in mental disease. PACIFIC COAST ITEMS The town of Santa Clara has a population of 2,402. A Republican campaign paper is to be started in Los Angeles. Bodie has collected $1,324 for the celebration on the Fourth. A house in Tombstone, A.T., 40 by 80 feet in size, rents for $500 per month. Large quantities of fruit are being shipped from Los Angeles to Arizona. A band of 4,000 head of sheep lately passed through Palisade, Nev., on the way to Colorado. Theodore WINTERS, the well known horseman of Nevada, has sold 175 horses, at $20 each, for Montana. Forty-five emigrant wagons, northward bound, passed through Ashland, Or., in the past two weeks. Dr. GLENN has something over 47,000 acres of wheat to cut this season, and this will be the biggest crop he ever had. The census, as near as can now be determined, will show the population of Fresno county to be considerably over 10,000. Two hundred Chinamen were mustered at the Glenn ranch on Sunday, to commence work in the harvest-field the next morning. It is claimed that portions of Arizona can produce earlier peaches than the Vacaville and Marysville regions of this State, and orchards are being planted. The Bodie Railroad, building from Carson, is experiencing much difficulty in getting Chinamen at reasonable wages, the supply not equaling the demand. Many remains of mastodon have been found on the Nome Lacke reservation in Tehama county. It is said that the whole region is worth the attention of scientists. The Lewiston (Idaho) Teller says that two young women, who live near Palouysi bridge, recently administered a sound thrashing to a man who had slandered them. The annual Cornish wrestling matches will be held in Grass Valley, commencing on the 5th of July, and lasting three days. Cash prizes amounting to $280 will be distributed. A great many fine cattle and some valuable horses at Tonto Basin, Arizona, are dying of a peculiar disease, which resembles the black- leg, the animal being perfectly black inside when cut open. In Montana June 15th five miners, who were returning from the Yogo mines, were surprised, while asleep in their camp, by a party of masked highwaymen, who shot one of them and robbed the others of $400. In Arizona recently, near Tempe, a Mexicanís dog treed a large California lion. The man was unarmed, save with a large butcher knife, but nothing daunted, and knowing where he could sell the skin for $1, he whipped out his knife, started up the tree and killed the beast. The lion measured about eight feet from the tip of his nose to the tip of his tail. The Silverthorn Murder Case at Shasta. SHASTA, July 1st - The evidence in the SILVERTHORN murder case closed to-day. The jury has been taken to Pit river to view the scene of the alleged homicide, and argument will commence to-morrow. This is the sixteenth day since the first juror was sworn. Drowned in Gold Lake. SIERRA CITY, July 1st - James DIXON, a native of Westchester county, New York, aged about 55 years, was drowned in Gold Lake yesterday by the ice giving away and precipitating him into the water while fishing. Mr. DIXON was a member of Colonel STEVENSON's regiment, which came to California in 1847. NEVADA A State Prisoner Murdered by a Fellow Convict. CARSON, July 2st - W.R. CHAMBERLAIN, a convict, was killed at the State Prison to-day by John R. DARIING, alias "Rattlesnake Dick," his pal in a robbery case four years ago. He was killed with a pickax. Passengers Passing Carlin for California. CARLIN, July 1st - The following passengers passed Carlin to-day to arrive in Sacramento to-morrow: G. CONKLING, Salt Lake City; Mrs. W. CRAIG, Miss Eva WHITE, Denver Col.; W.S. GODBIE, Miss T. GODBIE, W.J. MONTGOMERY and wife, Master Walter MONTGOMERY, Salt Lake City; M.R. HECHT, Allen St. J. BOWIE, Miss May PARROTT, Miss I. PARROTT, Miss BROADHEAD, Miss MARTIN, Miss L. BROADHEAD, Jacob HARRIS, C.J. SIMON, G.F. GIESSE, F.M. PIXLEY, S.M. WILSON, M.S. WILSON, S MOSGROVE, H.J. TILDEN, wife and nurse, William H. CROCKER, J.C. FLOOD and family, San Francisco; seven Sisters of Charity, California; J.M. ANDERSON, New Jersey, H.C. BIDWELL, Oakland; Mrs. E. ANODD, Portland, Or.; H.M. BILLINGS and wife, C.H. KEMPON, New York; D.J. PAGE, wife and family, Gold Hill; A. KEEFER, Australia; E.P. HASTINGS, Utah; Marquis DECAMOTTE, Viscount DeGALARD, Baron Martin DUNORD, Frank ROSE, Paris, France; E. MURTEL, Elko, Nev.; 68 emigrants, including 50 males, to arrive in Sacramento July 3d. OREGON PORTLAND, July 1st - A man named Samuel DERRICK committed suicide near Weston, in Umatilla county, on the 29th ultimo, by taking two ounces of chloroform. DERROCK had been in poor health for a long time, and becoming despondent, committed the rash deed. SAN FRANCISCO ITEMS [From San Francisco exchanges of July 1st.] The stock boards will adjourn at the close of business to-morrow afternoon until Wednesday, July 7th. The stockholders of the Firemanís Fund Insurance Company have voted to increase the capital from $300,000 to $750,000. On hundred and ninety-four marriage licenses were issued by the County Clerk last month, yielding a revenue of $194 to the city treasury. During the last half of June only $71,925 in gold coin and $53,980 in greenbacks was sent to New York from San Franfsico through the express company. The Free Library was reopened this morning as a circulating library, after having been closed some weeks for alterations. The system of loaning books will be by ìborrowerísî cards. The exchanges at the San Francisco Clearing house for June were $38,163,300, and the balances $9,512,400 against $46,581,900 exchanges and $10,675,000 balances for the same month last year. There is a very good reason to believe that Governor PERKINS has decided to remove Louis KAPLAN from the office of Registrar of Voters, and that he has tendered the position to another - a Republican. The new contract for performing the United States mail service in this city that is, the carrying of mail matter to and from the railroad depots and steamer landings to the central office, and between the central office and branch stations - went into effect to- day. ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sacramento Daily Record-Union Friday July 2, 1880 EMOTIONAL INSANITY A Sacramento jury has just acquitted Mrs. HAMILTON, who was put on trial for attempting to murder a young girl named Nettie WINCKLEPLECK. The defendant, as was alleged under the influence of jealousy, fired a pistol at the girl several times, inflicting severe wounds upon her. The defense was "emotional insanity;" the most (not legible) and comprehensive one imaginable, since nobody can define it, and not two medical men can be got to agree upon what constitutes it. We cannot be sure that the jury in this case accepted the plea of emotional insanity. They may have believed that the defendant was justified in trying to kill the girl, for juries are proverbially eccentric in their views. But the plea itself is one which might easily appeal to ignorant minds, and the whole subject of insanity is so difficult and obscure that lawyers may puzzle even intelligent juries by merely citing conflicting authorities upon it. The question of responsibility in connection with mental disease has, however, been ably and exhaustively treated by Maudaley, who is unquestionably the highest authority upon mental pathology and physiology now living. His conclusion is, broadly speaking, that when crime is committed in a thoroughly deliberate and purposeful manner, and when the alleged or presumptive motive of the crime is such as to appear reasonable to sane minds, the responsibility of the criminal ought to be assumed, even though the presence of an hereditary tendency to mania may be demonstrated. It has for sometime been apparent that some such line would have eventually to be drawn, for the loose and convenient phrase ìemotional insanityî can be made to fit any conceivable circumstances. All that is required is to assume that a person may become mad for a moment, during which the crime is committed, and then revert to sanity, and any case whatever may thus be covered. The relations of insanity to jurisprudence have in fact never yet been properly defined or established, and one result is that a great many flagrant failures of justice constantly occur. Emotional insanity is far too vague and misty a plea to be allowed, if murders and murderous assaults are to be discouraged, and in all probability it will be found necessary before long to adopt Maudaley's suggestion in regard to the limits of responsibility in mental disease. PACIFIC COAST ITEMS The town of Santa Clara has a population of 2,402. A Republican campaign paper is to be started in Los Angeles. Bodie has collected $1,324 for the celebration on the Fourth. A house in Tombstone, A.T., 40 by 80 feet in size, rents for $500 per month. Large quantities of fruit are being shipped from Los Angeles to Arizona. A band of 4,000 head of sheep lately passed through Palisade, Nev., on the way to Colorado. Theodore WINTERS, the well known horseman of Nevada, has sold 175 horses, at $20 each, for Montana. Forty-five emigrant wagons, northward bound, passed through Ashland, Or., in the past two weeks. Dr. GLENN has something over 47,000 acres of wheat to cut this season, and this will be the biggest crop he ever had. The census, as near as can now be determined, will show the population of Fresno county to be considerably over 10,000. Two hundred Chinamen were mustered at the Glenn ranch on Sunday, to commence work in the harvest-field the next morning. It is claimed that portions of Arizona can produce earlier peaches than the Vacaville and Marysville regions of this State, and orchards are being planted. The Bodie Railroad, building from Carson, is experiencing much difficulty in getting Chinamen at reasonable wages, the supply not equaling the demand. Many remains of mastodon have been found on the Nome Lacke reservation in Tehama county. It is said that the whole region is worth the attention of scientists. The Lewiston (Idaho) Teller says that two young women, who live near Palouysi bridge, recently administered a sound thrashing to a man who had slandered them. The annual Cornish wrestling matches will be held in Grass Valley, commencing on the 5th of July, and lasting three days. Cash prizes amounting to $280 will be distributed. A great many fine cattle and some valuable horses at Tonto Basin, Arizona, are dying of a peculiar disease, which resembles the black- leg, the animal being perfectly black inside when cut open. In Montana June 15th five miners, who were returning from the Yogo mines, were surprised, while asleep in their camp, by a party of masked highwaymen, who shot one of them and robbed the others of $400. In Arizona recently, near Tempe, a Mexicanís dog treed a large California lion. The man was unarmed, save with a large butcher knife, but nothing daunted, and knowing where he could sell the skin for $1, he whipped out his knife, started up the tree and killed the beast. The lion measured about eight feet from the tip of his nose to the tip of his tail. The Silverthorn Murder Case at Shasta. SHASTA, July 1st - The evidence in the SILVERTHORN murder case closed to-day. The jury has been taken to Pit river to view the scene of the alleged homicide, and argument will commence to-morrow. This is the sixteenth day since the first juror was sworn. Drowned in Gold Lake. SIERRA CITY, July 1st - James DIXON, a native of Westchester county, New York, aged about 55 years, was drowned in Gold Lake yesterday by the ice giving away and precipitating him into the water while fishing. Mr. DIXON was a member of Colonel STEVENSON's regiment, which came to California in 1847. NEVADA A State Prisoner Murdered by a Fellow Convict. CARSON, July 2st - W.R. CHAMBERLAIN, a convict, was killed at the State Prison to-day by John R. DARIING, alias "Rattlesnake Dick," his pal in a robbery case four years ago. He was killed with a pickax. Passengers Passing Carlin for California. CARLIN, July 1st - The following passengers passed Carlin to-day to arrive in Sacramento to-morrow: G. CONKLING, Salt Lake City; Mrs. W. CRAIG, Miss Eva WHITE, Denver Col.; W.S. GODBIE, Miss T. GODBIE, W.J. MONTGOMERY and wife, Master Walter MONTGOMERY, Salt Lake City; M.R. HECHT, Allen St. J. BOWIE, Miss May PARROTT, Miss I. PARROTT, Miss BROADHEAD, Miss MARTIN, Miss L. BROADHEAD, Jacob HARRIS, C.J. SIMON, G.F. GIESSE, F.M. PIXLEY, S.M. WILSON, M.S. WILSON, S MOSGROVE, H.J. TILDEN, wife and nurse, William H. CROCKER, J.C. FLOOD and family, San Francisco; seven Sisters of Charity, California; J.M. ANDERSON, New Jersey, H.C. BIDWELL, Oakland; Mrs. E. ANODD, Portland, Or.; H.M. BILLINGS and wife, C.H. KEMPON, New York; D.J. PAGE, wife and family, Gold Hill; A. KEEFER, Australia; E.P. HASTINGS, Utah; Marquis DECAMOTTE, Viscount DeGALARD, Baron Martin DUNORD, Frank ROSE, Paris, France; E. MURTEL, Elko, Nev.; 68 emigrants, including 50 males, to arrive in Sacramento July 3d. OREGON PORTLAND, July 1st - A man named Samuel DERRICK committed suicide near Weston, in Umatilla county, on the 29th ultimo, by taking two ounces of chloroform. DERROCK had been in poor health for a long time, and becoming despondent, committed the rash deed. SAN FRANCISCO ITEMS [From San Francisco exchanges of July 1st.] The stock boards will adjourn at the close of business to-morrow afternoon until Wednesday, July 7th. The stockholders of the Firemanís Fund Insurance Company have voted to increase the capital from $300,000 to $750,000. On hundred and ninety-four marriage licenses were issued by the County Clerk last month, yielding a revenue of $194 to the city treasury. During the last half of June only $71,925 in gold coin and $53,980 in greenbacks was sent to New York from San Franfsico through the express company. The Free Library was reopened this morning as a circulating library, after having been closed some weeks for alterations. The system of loaning books will be by ìborrowerísî cards. The exchanges at the San Francisco Clearing house for June were $38,163,300, and the balances $9,512,400 against $46,581,900 exchanges and $10,675,000 balances for the same month last year. There is a very good reason to believe that Governor PERKINS has decided to remove Louis KAPLAN from the office of Registrar of Voters, and that he has tendered the position to another - a Republican. The new contract for performing the United States mail service in this city that is, the carrying of mail matter to and from the railroad depots and steamer landings to the central office, and between the central office and branch stations - went into effect to- day.

Sacramento Daily Record-Union Thursday, July 1, 1880 MINING NOTES Chinamen have found placer mines along Lundy creek, Mono county. The Big Flat mines, Del Norte county, are using 1.400 inches of water. The Butte (Montana) Miner reports the collapse of the Yago mining excitement. The rich copper mines of Railroad District, eastern Nevada, are being prospected The hoisting works of the New York mines, near Nevada City, were burned on the 27th. The Ontario Mining Company of Utah consumes fifty tons of coal every twenty-four hours. The new town of Mule Pass, near Tombstone, Arizona, is called Bisbee. The mines there are copper. The new 80-stamp mill at the Vulture mine, Maricopa county,. Arizona, when completed will be 170 feet long and about 46 wide. Since the 9th of March last the Constitution mill, says the Tombstone (A.T.) Nugget, has produced half a million dollars in bullion. Almy, Wyoming, is an important coalmining district. Several hundred men are employed. The Central and Union Pacific Railroad Companies own most of the mines in this region. The gold dry-washing machine was recently tried at Oroville. Out of 500 pounds of tailings about a pound of black sand was extracted, in which could be plainly seen about 25 cents worth of gold. The whole operation was performed in less than five minutes. A mine which has recently been purchased in Denver, Col., for $65,000, was discovered by two children aged 9 and 10 years. The were ìplaying mineî at the time, and had dug down four feet on the Little Chief, near Ruby Hill, drilling and blasting five feet more until a valuable body of ore was brought to light. A mining expert who has recently returned from Arizona informs the Truckee Republican that it is the richest country in mineral he ever saw. The veins are large and the ore exceedingly rich. He says new strikes are made almost daily, and no matter in what direction one goes in the mountain districts, gold-bearing veins are found. It is well worth any personís time to travel many a mile to see the working of the great hydraulic mine near this city, says the Nevada City Transcript, owned by the Blue Tent Consolidated Company. A force of 130 men are employed in the various departments and a head of 2,500 inches of water is used in washing. The average daily clean-ups are $1,000. The banks are high and the dirt hard, requiring much blasting. This season the Narrow Gauge Railroad Company have delivered to the Blue Tent Company 60,000 pounds of black powder and upwards of 4,000 pounds of giant. Two blasts, aggregating 2,000 kegs of powder, are now being arranged for, and will be fired this week. The Bald Mountain Mining Company of Forest City, Sierra county, have adopted a new mode of working their mine. They let out all their work by contract, fixing their own price. They pay so much for each carload of gravel delivered at the dumps, and the car must contain a certain quantity of gravel. They furnish all the material for tunneling purposes, and let out the work required under agreement. At first they found great difficulty in procuring laborers under the new system, but eventually men took hold of the work and found, after experimenting for a number of days, that by putting in a faithful dayís work, they found make more money per day than they formally did under the old system. The mines is paying as well if not better than it ever did, and gives promise of doing so for years yet to come. COAST DISPATCHES SHOCKING TRAGEDY AT VISALIA A Young Girl Shot By Her Seducer, Who Commits Suicide. PASSENGERS FROM THE EAST BY RAIL Attempt to Wreck a Train on the Southern Pacific Railroad. OREGON AND WASHINGTON TERRITORY Great Damage from High Water on the Columbia River CALIFORNIA Continuation of the San Francisco Walking Match. SAN FRANCIASCO, June 30th - In the continuation of the pedestrian contest the new competitors seem to be getting away with the jaded participants in the original match, only a few of whom are doing much. The score at 9 P.M. stood: P. GUERRERO 90, MELVILLE 84, DUNN 82, Benicia Boy 67, MALLON 58, REYNOLDS 55, SHERIDAN 48, CALLAHAN 45, CUMMINGS 45. The Stockton and Bodie Narrow Gauge Railroad Project Collapsed. STOCKTON, June 30th - At a meeting of the subscribers toward the project for the construction of a narrow-gauge railroad between Stockton and Bodie, to join the Oregon and Nevada Railroad, a resolution was adopted that no further steps be taken in the matter. The meeting then adjourned sine die, and thus ends a project which it was at one time expected would be pregnant with beneficial results to Stockton. Shooting and Stabbing at Dutch Flat. DUTCH FLAT, June 3oth - A shooting and stabbing affray occurred here at 4:30 this afternoon between two miners - An Austrian and a Swede. The trouble originated in the mine, about a sledge. The Austrian then threatened to kill the Swede. The Swede came to town to procure the otherís arrest, taking his gun along for defense, but not finding a Constable, went into a saloon to wait. The Austrian rushed in on him, when he fired one shot and ran across the street into a dry goods store, followed by the Austrian, who stabbed him in the back of the neck. The Austrian is apparently unhurt He is under arrest. Murder and Suicide VISALIA, June 30th - Last night about 11:30 oíclock a man by the name of Charles CELLER, in a dance-house, shot Miss Nelly BRADY and then killed himself in the same manner. According to the girlís story, as told to her companions, she had accompanied him, her seducer, from her home in San Francisco to Tulare county, where they had lived for about a month, he forcing her to follow a life of shame to support him. She wished to go back to her parents, but he would not let her. At last her condition became unbearable, and she left him, and notwithstanding his appeals she refused to return. Last night he approached the dance- house where they had been stopping, and fired through the open window at her, the ball taking effect in her left ear. She fell to the floor and died in a few moments. He then placed the pistol to his right temple and fired, falling dead. In his memorandum book was written the name and address of both Charles CELLER, 168 Perry street, and Nelly BRADY, 309 Ritch street, San Francisco. A Coronerís inquest was held this afternoon and a verdict rendered in accordance with the foregoing facts. Attempt to Wreck a Train - Daily Mail Service TUCSON, June 30th - An attempt was made to throw the western-bound train from the track near Picacho station on the night of the 28th. A railroad tie was thrown across the track, which fortunately was seen by the engineer, who checked the speed of the train just before reaching it. A daily mail has been put on between Tucson and Globe City, which commenced to-morrow. A stage line will be put on in a few days. This will make Tucson the nearest railroad point to the Globe country. NEVADA Passengers Passing Carlin for California. CARLIN, June 30th - The following passengers passed Carlin to-day, to arrive in Sacramento to-morrow: Dr. H.R. HOLMES, Oregon; Mrs. Dr. LYFORD, Marion LYFORD, J.A. JOHNSON, San Francisco; Mrs. FRISBIE, Weadsburg, N.Y.; E.A. SAWYER and wife, Gilroy; Dr. H.L. SIMS, San Francisco; J.B. JACKSON and wife, Wisconsin; Mrs. RICHARDS, Philadelphia; Col. SULLEY and family, U.S.A.; John IVANCOVICH and wife, San Francisco; E. RYAN, Washington; Geo. ROHEN, Arizona; Denis KEARNEY, San Francisco; Owen McCAULEY, Brooklyn; A.T. GREEN, San Francisco; J.T. LUMMON, Salt Lake; L. RIDDEL, Texas; Hugh McDONALD and wife, San Francisco; G.J. PHIPPS and wife, M.G. PHIPPS, Miss PHIPPS, Miss M. PHIPPS, England; R.R. HAWKINS, Nashville; A.R. SIXERS, wife and son, Philadelphia; Miss B.F. STONE, Dr. George PETERS, R.D. WALBRIDGE, New York; H. TETLOW, Philadelphia; L.S. CHITTENDEN, New York; 58 emigrants, including 31 males, to arrive in Sacramento, July 2d. WASHINGTON TERRITORY Robbed and Murdered. PORT TOWNSEND, June 30th - The young Indian who was intrusted with a sum of money to carry from Neah Bay to Hosetterís, reported on Monday, was found dead between Indian Agent WILLOUGHBYís house and the farm. His body was literally hacked to pieces and the money gone. One of the supposed murderers was arrested and brought here this evening. SAN FRANCISCO ITEMS [From San Francisco exchanges of June 30th.] The steamer City of Tokio will leave for China and Japan on Saturday next. Thirteen ìstreet walkersî arrested last evening were fined $5 each in the Police Court to-day. There are now 1,373 names on the roll of the Garfield Invincibles, and it is the largest political club in the city. George H. LUPTON, convicted in Judge FERRALís Court with assault with intent to murder officer CLARK, was to-day sentenced to San Quentin for fourteen years. The editor of the Examiner recently met a man who had not voted for eight years, but this time intends to vote for Hancock. The poor fellow has been in San Quentin. Postmaster COEY has received a letter from Washington, notifying him that on and after July 1st next, under an agreement with the British office executed on the 18th instant, packets of samples of merchandise may be exchanged in the international mails between the two countries up to 12 inches in length, 7 inches in width, 4 inches in depth, and 12 ounces in weight. A counterfeit $100 bank note was found in the Sub-Treasury office in this city. It was sent to Washington, and then a description of it was forwarded here to United States Detective DINNEGARR, who took the matter in hand and traced it to the Bank of Sonoma, from there to the Postmaster of Petaluma, who reported that he had received it from the San Francisco post office in a package of $800. The note has been stamped as counterfeit, and the postoffice will have to make it good. The Census Supervisor for this district, Henry G. LANGLEY, reports that 214 of the 229 enumerators of this district have deposited their lists with him, leaving fifteen lists to come in. To-day is the last day for making returns. The schedules are being thoroughly examined to ascertain if any deficiencies exist. The approximate population of the city will be ready for the press the latter part of this week. The Chinese population will probably fall short of 20,000, and it is understood from a trustworthy source that the white population of the city is considerably below 240,000. The safe return of the United States steamer Pensacola to this port after becoming disabled on her late cruise to the North, is doubtless due to the ingenuity of her Past Assistant Engineer, G.W. STIVERS. At the time of the accident, near the mouth of the Columbia river, and when the ship was in imminent danger of being lost, that officer suggested wrapping the broken crank with wire-cable that would stand a strain of sixty tons. This was done under his supervision, and the vessel steamed in that condition for forty-eight hours, and on her arrival to port everything was found to be perfectly solid. Had this not been done, the ship would in all probability have drifted on the rocks and been lose, as she was completely disabled, and as there was a perfect calm, the sails could not have been used. MARRIED Red Bluff, June 29 - J.P. ALEXANDER to Sarah Ann KELLOWAY. BORN San Francisco, June 29 - Wife of Dr. B.T. MOUSER, a daughter. Grass Valley, June 27 - Wife of Robert RICHARDS, a con. Marysville, June 26 - Wife of Con. OíCONNOR, a son. DIED Oakland, June 30 - Dr. C.H. TOZER, formerly of Sacramento, born in New York city, August 27, 1801. [Funeral notice to-morrow] Oakland, June 27 - William T. WYTHE.

Hi, Quite a while ago I found out there is an announcement about the divorce of my great-great-grandparents, Heinrich and Sophie Janicke, in the San Jose newspaper, I think in 1894. Unfortunately, something called me away from the computer suddenly, and before I had a chance to look for it again, I completely forgot where I had been looking. Weak-brained I know. But can someone tell me a good website to look this info up? Thanks a million. Marybeth Michaels

Hi Sandy, I visited the Yuba County Recorders Office a number of years back & was able to review & copy vital records from the pre-1905 period in their bound books. Yuba, Sutter & Colusa Counties were better than most at keeping early records. It might be worth a call to see what they can do (like a death cert). Clerk (530) 749-7851 http://www.co.yuba.ca.us/departments/clerk/ Jim -- James R. Smith Author/Speaker/Researcher Author: San Francisco’s Lost Landmarks California Snatch Racket, June 2010 San Francisco's Playland at the Beach: The Early Years, Sep 2010 www.HistorySmith.com stephensonjs@comcast.net wrote: > I am looking for any information on my great grandfather John Ferguson Barrie. He lived in Marysville from 1856 until his death in 2/7/1904. He had two sons John and Tom and a daughter Mary Jane. I believe he was a farmer. > > > > Sandy > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

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It's Time For Jamboree!! Registration is now open for the 41st Annual Southern California Genealogy Jamboree, which will be held Friday through Sunday, June 11-13, 2010, at the Marriott Los Angeles Burbank Airport Hotel and Convention Center in Burbank, California. The 2010 Jamboree follows the longstanding tradition of delivering the perfect mix of lecture sessions, exhibitors, networking and social activities. This year's Jamboree offers nearly 130 quality classes conducted by the most knowledgeable and experienced genealogy speakers from the US, Canada and points beyond. The geographic focus for this year's Jamboree is North America -- Canada, Mexico, and all regions of the United States. DNA and technology will also receive special emphasis in 2010. The exhibitors represent the leading organizations and commercial companies who provide products and services to today's genealogists and family historians, as well as local, regional, and national genealogical societies. WHAT'S NEW IN 2010? 1. Thursday Evening Registration. Many of our attendees requested that they be allowed to pick up the syllabus and other registration materials on Thursday evening. We listened, and in 2010 we will have a Jamboree check-in period on Thursday evening. Thursday night's check-in will be for pre-registered attendees only, and no walk-in registrations will be processed when the registration desk opens Friday at noon. 2. More Seats. In response to last year's post-conference satisfaction survey, we are expanding our seating capacity by adding a pavilion that will be situated behind the Convention Center, adjacent to the lawn. The pavilion will hold 300 seats, will be fully air conditioned, with wireless internet access. Jamboree will take over the Marriott Hotel as well as the Convention Center and hold sessions in both buildings as well as the pavilion. 3. Mini-courses. We will be running a track of hands-on computer lab workshops throughout the weekend. About 20 people per course will bring their laptops and go through hands-on workshops on using Excel, Word, blogging software, Skype, Google Earth, etc. These mini-courses are open only to paid Jamboree registrants. A special online registration for mini-course attendees will open on May 1. 4. Free Friday Forenoon sessions will ensure that in these economically challenging times, expense will not be a barrier to learning. Several concurrent sessions, each lasting three hours, include a Genealogy Librarian's boot camp, a repeat of last year's highly popular Kids' Family History Camp, and beginner and advanced beginner genealogy sessions. Registration is required to attend the Free Forenoon Friday sessions. 5. The "Small World" round table discussion has been expanded to three hours and moved to Friday morning. The session affords an excellent opportunity to network, to explore research tactics for specific geographic regions of the world, and to exchange tips and techniques on an informal basis. A complete list of round table discussion topics will be announced at a later date. There is no charge to attend the Small World session, but registration is required. 6. Ancestry Scanning. Ancestry will be bringing a number of high-speed scanners and scheduling free, 15-minute scanning sessions. Ancestry has provided this service at other conferences, and we are thrilled that they will be scanning documents and photos for Jamboree attendees. As in years past, registration discounts are available for SCGS members and early-bird registrants (before May 1). For all the details, visit our website at www.scgsgenealogy.com and click on the Jamboree brochure. See you at Jamboree! Paula Hinkel Co-Chair Southern California Genealogy Jamboree Southern California Genealogical Society 417 Irving Drive Burbank, CA 91504 818-843-7247

I was able to bring up through the searchable 1905-1929 data set the date of 10/17/1918. The ID #s are different between the microfilm and the data set. Same day & month though. The SF Chronicle had a small obit for her 10/18 & 19/ 1918. Here is the transcription: AYERS - In this city, October 17, 1918, Elizabeth Ayers, dearly beloved mother of Mrs. A. Pearlman, Milton A. Ayers, Mrs. F. Thompson and Mrrs. Lillian Barry of New York.     The funeral will take place Saturday from the parlors of Gantner Brothers (Sunset Branch), 1266 Ninthy ave., Sunset District. I could not find a reference to a final resting place. Hopefully, this helps a little. RC    Vital Search AYERS   ELIZABET      10   17   1918   SANFRANCISCO   456786    SF Genealogy  Name: Elizabeth Ayers Age in years: 68 Gender: Female Death date: 17 Oct 1918 Funeral home place: San Francisco, San Francisco, California Estimated birth year: 1850 Birth date: 02 Jun 1918 Birthplace: New York Father's name: Thomas Wingrove Mother's name: Jane Roberts Marital status: Widowed Obituary notice: YES Digital GS number: 4189511 Image number: 00261 Funeral home name: Gantner Bros Record type: Record Book Volume: 09 Page: 247 Source: Various Funeral Home Records Collection: California, San Francisco Area Funeral Home Records 1835-1931 ________________________________ From: "kconnel@aol.com" <kconnel@aol.com> To: norcal@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 1:10:47 PM Subject: [NORCAL] Need help with Vital Search I would really appreciate it if someone could help with the following - Vital Search, Page:412, Ayers, Elizabeth, 1, 68, 90, ? for date of death and certificate number. I just can't read it clearly. Many thanks. Karen ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL.  Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to NORCAL@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Karen, You can reply off line perfectlefty59atcomcastdotnet if you wish. I also have family that lived in Marysville, STARR. I might be able to help. Raymond -------------------------------------------------- From: <kconnel@aol.com> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 08:50 PM To: <norcal@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NORCAL] Marysville city directories > Betty, Check with the California Room at the Packard Library in > Marysville. > In addition you should also check the Ramey index of Marysville > newspapers. > Four sides of my family were in Marysville before 1855 and I was raised > there. Sorry I don't live there now so cannot do any lookups. Lots of > great > info in the library. Karen > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > NORCAL@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message