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    1. Re: [NORCAL] George Thomas b. 1887 California
    2. Margie
    3. GIGGLE - my grandmother talked about Grass Widows often..... -----Original Message----- >From: Susan Slade Grossl <[email protected]> >Sent: Apr 24, 2012 4:43 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [NORCAL] George Thomas b. 1887 California > >A "grass widow" is someone who's husband has taken off and they have no idea >where he is. I have also seen "grass widowers" mentioned. NO formal divorce >just POOF gone. And many times they do remarry and are happy in the second >marriage. > >Susan >Boise, Idaho, USA > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >Behalf Of Mildred Starr >Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 1:11 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [NORCAL] George Thomas b. 1887 California > >The term 'grass widow' refers to a divorcee. So in fact they may not have >been lying at all. They just left out the adjective. > >_______________________________ >From: Margaret Toole <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Cc: [email protected] >Sent: Tue, April 24, 2012 10:59:46 AM >Subject: Re: [NORCAL] George Thomas b. 1887 California > >> The second issue is one I have seen on several occasions in the late >> 19th >> and early 20th centuries. The heads of household, women in particular, >> would lie to a census taker that they were widowed when in fact they >> were >> divorced to avoid the stigma of divorce and the gossip of neighbors. >> Census >> takers were not always discrete. How many of you have seen this in >> your own >> research? >> >> Again, many thanks >> >> Paul >> >Hi Paul. My husbands ggrandmother said she had been "married" a second >time to cover up the fact that she had an illegitimate daughter. Her >husband died of the flu in 1918 and in 1920 she was a housekeeper for >two men. She had a daughter shortly thereafter. By 1930 she was no >longer Jennie COLLINS but Jennie BARNES. I have found no sign of Mr. >BARNES. > >Margaret > > > > >----------------------------------------- >NORCAL ARCHIVES: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ >Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. >Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. >----------------------------------------- >To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to [email protected] >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/24/2012 10:56:40
    1. Re: [NORCAL] George Thomas b. 1887 California
    2. Paul Puente
    3. Hi again Cathy The obits of 1930 and 1953 gave no location for George. I did find a SSDI for a George Thomas, b. 1 February 1887 and d. August, 1966 in Moraga, Contra Costa, CA. This is only 12 miles from where his wife Elizabeth and her children were living in Oakland during the 20s and 30s. I would love to believe that this is my George Thomas, but it is such a common name and I have very little other data about him. The 1900 Census did state that he was born in Feb, 1887 so this SSDI might be him, but I would love to have some other evidence. I can't find any California Death Index for him but if one exists and I find that his mother's maiden name is Winkler then I have found him. But alas, no CDI. Thanks for your suggestions Paul On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 3:28 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Paul, I have frequently seen census returns with a woman listed as widowed > when I know she wasn't. As for the obit, I post many of them from Marin > County. Needless to say, I am not related to all these families. I have > been made aware that in some cases children were not listed in the obit > that "should" have been - - whether the paper's error or a family thing, I > am in no position to comment. As for a member of the family being listed as > deceased when he wasn't or vice versa, that does happen on occasion. I > think in most cases it is the paper's error, but ... > > In your case I would continue to operate on the assumption that your > George was alive and keep searching for a record of his death. Surely there > will be something somewhere. Have you considered undertaker's and/or > coroner's records? Did those obits of 1930 and 1953 mention a location for > George? > > > > Cathy > Marin Co., CA > > "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast" -* unknown* > > > >

    04/24/2012 10:54:40
    1. Re: [NORCAL] George Thomas b. 1887 California
    2. As to your first question I have found the city directories or phone books to be very helpful in tracking some of my relatives. I can comment directly to your second question. I have a Great Aunt who in 1903 told the folks who publish the Polk City directories that she was a widowed when in reality her husband had left her and she moved back in with her parents. At the time she had  one daughter.  A couple years later she remarried and had two more daughters by her second husband. I do not have a picture of her but I believe she must have  been a wonderful person to attract a single gentleman who in 1903 lived about three blocks from her parent's home. He eventually adopted her first daughter. Their marriage lasted until her death and he lived for another 12 years and  never remarried. Eugene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Puente" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 11:31:59 PM Subject: [NORCAL] George Thomas b. 1887 California Cathy, Marilyn, Susan - many thanks for your contributions; I appreciate it very much. Cathy, you have come to my rescue once again. I was hoping that you would NOT find my George Thomas in that time period. His wife in a later census indicated that she was "widowed" but I have some evidence that George was still alive at the time. This leads me to two issues that I hope a number of you will comment on. The only evidence I have of George being alive from 1917 (when he last appeared in SF) to 1953 are two obituaries, one for his father (1930) and one for his half-brother (1953). In both he was listed as a family member and in neither one was he shown as "the late George Thomas". Have any of you ever found an obituary where a surviving member of the decedent's family was actually dead but the obituary didn't indicate that? If so, how often have you seen this. The second issue is one I have seen on several occasions in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. The heads of household, women in particular, would lie to a census taker that they were widowed when in fact they were divorced to avoid the stigma of divorce and the gossip of neighbors. Census takers were not always discrete. How many of you have seen this in your own research? Again, many thanks Paul

    04/24/2012 09:47:19
    1. Re: [NORCAL] George Thomas b. 1887 California
    2. Margaret Toole
    3. > > The second issue is one I have seen on several occasions in the late > 19th > and early 20th centuries. The heads of household, women in particular, > would lie to a census taker that they were widowed when in fact they > were > divorced to avoid the stigma of divorce and the gossip of neighbors. > Census > takers were not always discrete. How many of you have seen this in > your own > research? > > Again, many thanks > > Paul > Hi Paul. My husbands ggrandmother said she had been "married" a second time to cover up the fact that she had an illegitimate daughter. Her husband died of the flu in 1918 and in 1920 she was a housekeeper for two men. She had a daughter shortly thereafter. By 1930 she was no longer Jennie COLLINS but Jennie BARNES. I have found no sign of Mr. BARNES. Margaret

    04/24/2012 07:59:41
    1. Re: [NORCAL] George Thomas b. 1887 California
    2. In a message dated 4/24/12 7:56:41 AM, [email protected] writes: > I did find a SSDI > for a George Thomas, b. 1 February 1887 and d. August, 1966 in Moraga, > Contra Costa, CA. This is only 12 miles from where his wife Elizabeth and > her children were living in Oakland during the 20s and 30s. > Don't think he's yours, Paul. This George Thomas died in Los Angeles Co., so Moraga must have been last place of residence. The kicker is that his middle initial is L. and his mother was a Goldwait. He was born in Iowa. The rest of it is great, however! Died Aug. 12th, 1966 and born Feb. 1st, 1887. Cathy Marin Co., CA "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast" - unknown

    04/24/2012 06:52:53
    1. Re: [NORCAL] George Thomas b. 1887 California
    2. Mildred Starr
    3. The term 'grass widow' refers to a divorcee. So in fact they may not have been lying at all. They just left out the adjective. ________________________________ From: Margaret Toole <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Tue, April 24, 2012 10:59:46 AM Subject: Re: [NORCAL] George Thomas b. 1887 California > > The second issue is one I have seen on several occasions in the late > 19th > and early 20th centuries. The heads of household, women in particular, > would lie to a census taker that they were widowed when in fact they > were > divorced to avoid the stigma of divorce and the gossip of neighbors. > Census > takers were not always discrete. How many of you have seen this in > your own > research? > > Again, many thanks > > Paul > Hi Paul. My husbands ggrandmother said she had been "married" a second time to cover up the fact that she had an illegitimate daughter. Her husband died of the flu in 1918 and in 1920 she was a housekeeper for two men. She had a daughter shortly thereafter. By 1930 she was no longer Jennie COLLINS but Jennie BARNES. I have found no sign of Mr. BARNES. Margaret ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/24/2012 06:10:52
    1. Re: [NORCAL] George Thomas b. 1887 California
    2. Terry T
    3. There is a Contra Costa Historical Society in Martinez CA. Perhaps they could tell if there is any place you might find more info -----Original Message----- From: Paul Puente <[email protected]> To: norcal <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Apr 24, 2012 7:56 am Subject: Re: [NORCAL] George Thomas b. 1887 California Hi again Cathy The obits of 1930 and 1953 gave no location for George. I did find a SSDI for a George Thomas, b. 1 February 1887 and d. August, 1966 in Moraga, Contra Costa, CA. This is only 12 miles from where his wife Elizabeth and her children were living in Oakland during the 20s and 30s. I

    04/24/2012 05:13:52
    1. Re: [NORCAL] George Thomas b. 1887 California
    2. Paul, I have frequently seen census returns with a woman listed as widowed when I know she wasn't. As for the obit, I post many of them from Marin County. Needless to say, I am not related to all these families. I have been made aware that in some cases children were not listed in the obit that "should" have been - - whether the paper's error or a family thing, I am in no position to comment. As for a member of the family being listed as deceased when he wasn't or vice versa, that does happen on occasion. I think in most cases it is the paper's error, but ... In your case I would continue to operate on the assumption that your George was alive and keep searching for a record of his death. Surely there will be something somewhere. Have you considered undertaker's and/or coroner's records? Did those obits of 1930 and 1953 mention a location for George? Cathy Marin Co., CA "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast" - unknown

    04/24/2012 03:28:43
    1. [NORCAL] George Thomas b. 1887 California
    2. Paul Puente
    3. Cathy, Marilyn, Susan - many thanks for your contributions; I appreciate it very much. Cathy, you have come to my rescue once again. I was hoping that you would NOT find my George Thomas in that time period. His wife in a later census indicated that she was "widowed" but I have some evidence that George was still alive at the time. This leads me to two issues that I hope a number of you will comment on. The only evidence I have of George being alive from 1917 (when he last appeared in SF) to 1953 are two obituaries, one for his father (1930) and one for his half-brother (1953). In both he was listed as a family member and in neither one was he shown as "the late George Thomas". Have any of you ever found an obituary where a surviving member of the decedent's family was actually dead but the obituary didn't indicate that? If so, how often have you seen this. The second issue is one I have seen on several occasions in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. The heads of household, women in particular, would lie to a census taker that they were widowed when in fact they were divorced to avoid the stigma of divorce and the gossip of neighbors. Census takers were not always discrete. How many of you have seen this in your own research? Again, many thanks Paul

    04/24/2012 02:31:59
    1. Re: [NORCAL] George Thomas b. 1887 California
    2. EdrieAnne Broughton
    3. Paul, if you sent for the SS applicaton on the George Thomas that died in 1966, you should find his mother's maiden name...unless he was perverse and gave his mother-in-law's maiden name as my great grandfather did. In his defense he was in his 90s when he applied for Social Security. EdrieAnne On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 7:54 AM, Paul Puente <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi again Cathy > > The obits of 1930 and 1953 gave no location for George. I did find a SSDI > for a George Thomas, b. 1 February 1887 and d. August, 1966 in Moraga, > Contra Costa, CA. This is only 12 miles from where his wife Elizabeth and > her children were living in Oakland during the 20s and 30s. > > I would love to believe that this is my George Thomas, but it is such a > common name and I have very little other data about him. The 1900 Census > did state that he was born in Feb, 1887 so this SSDI might be him, but I > would love to have some other evidence. I can't find any California Death > Index for him but if one exists and I find that his mother's maiden name is > Winkler then I have found him. But alas, no CDI. > > Thanks for your suggestions > > Paul > > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 3:28 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Paul, I have frequently seen census returns with a woman listed as > widowed > > when I know she wasn't. As for the obit, I post many of them from Marin > > County. Needless to say, I am not related to all these families. I have > > been made aware that in some cases children were not listed in the obit > > that "should" have been - - whether the paper's error or a family thing, > I > > am in no position to comment. As for a member of the family being listed > as > > deceased when he wasn't or vice versa, that does happen on occasion. I > > think in most cases it is the paper's error, but ... > > > > In your case I would continue to operate on the assumption that your > > George was alive and keep searching for a record of his death. Surely > there > > will be something somewhere. Have you considered undertaker's and/or > > coroner's records? Did those obits of 1930 and 1953 mention a location > for > > George? > > > > > > > > Cathy > > Marin Co., CA > > > > "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast" -* unknown* > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    04/24/2012 02:26:50
    1. [NORCAL] George Thomas b. 1887 California
    2. Paul Puente
    3. If anyone has access to the 1905-1929 death index at vitalsearch-ca and is willing to do a lookup for me I would really appreciate it. George Thomas (possible middle initial of "H") b. 1887, possibly February, in California d. between 1917 and 1919, living in San Francisco during this time period. Many thanks Paul

    04/23/2012 08:32:16
    1. Re: [NORCAL] George Thomas b. 1887 California
    2. Susan Stuart
    3. There is a George Thomas on the SFGenealogy mortuary index. (http://www.sfgenealogy.com/php/sfmrsearch/sfmrindex.php) B: 1886 Missouri D: 10 Oct 1918 Camp Jackson Mortuary: Gantner-Maison-Domergue Order given by: Louise Thomas Buried: Holy Cross Father's name: Frank Thomas Susan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Puente Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 5:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NORCAL] George Thomas b. 1887 California If anyone has access to the 1905-1929 death index at vitalsearch-ca and is willing to do a lookup for me I would really appreciate it. George Thomas (possible middle initial of "H") b. 1887, possibly February, in California d. between 1917 and 1919, living in San Francisco during this time period. Many thanks Paul ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/23/2012 08:16:15
    1. Re: [NORCAL] Black servants
    2. If she had children and their linage known then using DNA her roots could possible be discovered or at least cousins found. What in interesting story thanks for sharing. Eugene  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Branstead" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 5:30:16 AM Subject: [NORCAL] Black servants My Beeson family lived in Hillsboro, OH inthe early 1830s. They were part of the Underground Railroad. One night several families came through and left quickly. Two little girls were accidentally left behind. The Beesons tried to track down their families but were unsuccessful. The Beesons took in one and another family took in the other. My family "bound" one to prevent her from being taken back to the south and sol into slavery. She was about two and didn't know her name so they christened her "Ann" because they liked the name and "Jordan" because she crossed the river to get to freedom. They gave her birthdate as the day she arrived at their home. She was raised as a companion to my great grandmother of the same age. They lived together all their lives. In the censuses sh is listed as a servant. Sent from my iPad ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL.  Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/23/2012 07:00:34
    1. Re: [NORCAL] Servant/Slaves in wills in Kentucky & a good African American web site
    2. Chuck and Laurie Angel
    3. Traci is in the process of updating her website, noted below. Laurie Angel On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Chuck and Laurie Angel wrote: > Traci is a friend of mine. We have common surnames in our families > from Pike Co. MO. Very intriguing since since my family is white. > Anyway, I read your referral below and it looks as though hers is an > older site since many links are no longer valid. > > I e-mailed Traci to inform her you had referred to her site. I'm not > sure if she has another more up to date site or not, but I do know she > is still working on her genealogy. Her e-mail address is correct on > the URL provided below, so she can be reached. > > Laurie Angel > > On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Marilyn Ornbaun wrote: > >> The book Zamora-Black's Station of Yolo County ,tells of a former >> slave who came to California with his former owner and owned about >> 5000 acres west of there in a few years..I believe the name was >> Campbell. >> ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 8:30 AM >> Subject: Re: [NORCAL] Servant/Slaves in wills in Kentucky & a good >> African American web site >> >> >>> I've also seen slaves passed on as inheritance in my Thomas Sears' >>> will in Warren Co., Kentucky. >>> >>> Tracy Wilson-Kleekamp has a great web site regarding African >>> Americans in Missouri - some of whom came to Yolo County to settle >>> down. >>> >>> Afro-Americans in Missouri , Tracy L. Wilson-Kleekamp, Coordinator. >>> http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/topic/afro-amer/ >>> >>> Peggy Perazzo >>> >>> Peggy B. Perazzo >>> [email protected] >>> Stone Quarries and Beyond >>> http://quarriesandbeyond.org/ >>> Yolo County CAGenWeb Project Coordinator >>> http://www.cagenweb.com/yolo/index.htm >>> All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton AntiVirus >>> http://www.symantec.com/ >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Alice Duncan" <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 8:00:16 AM >>> Subject: Re: [NORCAL] Servant/Slave >>> >>> If the slave has taken the owners name, then it might help to see if >>> he/she is in a probate as inherited "goods:" . I would not try to >>> change the reality by listing as servant if he or she is a slave. >>> I have seen slaves listed in probates in Lib. of Va. records, and >>> sold >>> at settlement of estates and who bought them. >>> An extremely helpful book,if anyone is interested in what life was >>> like for >>> some free negros and slaves is The Known World by Edward P Jones. >>> Alice D. >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "hum.linda" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 9:23 PM >>> Subject: Re: [NORCAL] Servant/Slave >>> >>> >>>> Hi Listers, >>>> Perhaps listing the person as a servant to the family from year to >>>> year. >>>> name and age, if taken the owners surname. >>>> >>>> ~hum.Linda~ >>>> Words are the window to the Heart. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: >>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ >>>> Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. >>>> Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. >>>> ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the >>>> NORCAL mailing list, send an email to >>>> [email protected] >>>> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, >>>> please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ >>> Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. >>> Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. >>> ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the >>> NORCAL mailing list, send an email to [email protected] >>> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please >>> send an email to [email protected] with the word >>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>> message >>> >>> >>> ----------------------------------------- >>> NORCAL ARCHIVES: >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ >>> Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. >>> Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. >>> ----------------------------------------- >>> To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to >>> [email protected] >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/23/2012 05:16:46
    1. Re: [NORCAL] George Thomas b. 1887 California
    2. There are many George Thomas's but none that died between 1917 and 1919 in S.F. George N. died 8/11/1929 George R. died 2/5/1926 George W. died 3/14/1909 all in S.F. Cathy Marin Co., CA "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast" - unknown

    04/23/2012 05:13:37
    1. Re: [NORCAL] Black servants
    2. In a message dated 4/23/12 5:32:22 AM, [email protected] writes: > > My Beeson family lived in Hillsboro, OH inthe early 1830s. They were part > of the Underground Railroad. One night several families came through and > left quickly. Two little girls were accidentally left behind. The Beesons > tried to track down their families but were unsuccessful. The Beesons took in > one and another family took in the other. My family "bound" one to prevent > her from being taken back to the south and sol into slavery. She was about > two and didn't know her name so they christened her "Ann" because they > liked the name and "Jordan" because she crossed the river to get to freedom. > They gave her birthdate as the day she arrived at their home. She was raised > as a companion to my great grandmother of the same age. They lived together > all their lives. In the censuses sh is listed as a servant. > Sent from my iPad > > > How fascinating! It is especially so to me because my grandmother was born into a Quaker family that had also been active in the Underground RR. I do hope you will post your story to other websites so it won't get "lost." Descendants of that little girl will want to know it. Cathy Marin Co., CA "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast" - unknown

    04/23/2012 04:24:36
    1. Re: [NORCAL] Black servants
    2. Marilyn Demas
    3. Ah, now I see where this message originated. Liz Thank you for sharing. It is a very moving account. Appreciatively, marilyn ________________________________ From: Liz Branstead <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 8:30 PM Subject: [NORCAL] Black servants My Beeson family lived in Hillsboro, OH inthe early 1830s. They were part of the Underground Railroad. One night several families came through and left quickly. Two little girls were accidentally left behind. The Beesons tried to track down their families but were unsuccessful. The Beesons took in one and another family took in the other. My family "bound" one to prevent her from being taken back to the south and sol into slavery. She was about two and didn't know her name so they christened her "Ann" because they liked the name and "Jordan" because she crossed the river to get to freedom. They gave her birthdate as the day she arrived at their home. She was raised as a companion to my great grandmother of the same age. They lived together all their lives. In the censuses sh is listed as a servant. Sent from my iPad ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL.  Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/23/2012 03:32:52
    1. Re: [NORCAL] George Thomas b. 1887 California
    2. Marilyn Demas
    3. There were Thomases in Sacramento I believe i9n that time period. I believe they came from MO. marilyn ________________________________ From: Paul Puente <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 8:32 PM Subject: [NORCAL] George Thomas b. 1887 California If anyone has access to the 1905-1929 death index at vitalsearch-ca and is willing to do a lookup for me I would really appreciate it. George Thomas (possible middle initial of "H") b. 1887, possibly February, in California d. between 1917 and 1919, living in San Francisco during this time period. Many thanks Paul ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL.  Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/23/2012 03:31:29
    1. Re: [NORCAL] Black servants
    2. Marilyn Demas
    3. I'm sorry, I don't know the who sent the original message about the Beesons. I have heard that name out here in Ca. Did Ann emigrate from Ohio to Ca? Did she marry and have children? God Bless your family!!! marilyn ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [NORCAL] Black servants In a message dated 4/23/12 5:32:22 AM, [email protected] writes: > > My Beeson family lived in Hillsboro, OH inthe early 1830s. They were part > of the Underground Railroad. One night several families came through and > left quickly. Two little girls were accidentally left behind. The Beesons > tried to track down their families but were unsuccessful. The Beesons took in > one and another family took in the other. My family "bound" one to prevent > her from being taken back to the south and sol into slavery. She was about > two and didn't know her name so they christened her "Ann" because they > liked the name and "Jordan" because she crossed the river to get to freedom. > They gave her birthdate as the day she arrived at their home. She was raised > as a companion to my great grandmother of the same age. They lived together > all their lives. In the censuses sh is listed as a servant. > Sent from my iPad > > > How fascinating! It is especially so to me because my grandmother was born into a Quaker family that had also been active in the Underground RR. I do hope you will post your story to other websites so it won't get "lost." Descendants of that little girl will want to know it. Cathy Marin Co., CA "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast" - unknown ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL.  Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/23/2012 03:30:02
    1. [NORCAL] Black servants
    2. Liz Branstead
    3. My Beeson family lived in Hillsboro, OH inthe early 1830s. They were part of the Underground Railroad. One night several families came through and left quickly. Two little girls were accidentally left behind. The Beesons tried to track down their families but were unsuccessful. The Beesons took in one and another family took in the other. My family "bound" one to prevent her from being taken back to the south and sol into slavery. She was about two and didn't know her name so they christened her "Ann" because they liked the name and "Jordan" because she crossed the river to get to freedom. They gave her birthdate as the day she arrived at their home. She was raised as a companion to my great grandmother of the same age. They lived together all their lives. In the censuses sh is listed as a servant. Sent from my iPad

    04/23/2012 02:30:16