Looks good! Way more info than I remembered! You have a couple cemeteries listed for me, second section, Janie Edwards, but I have all the Shasta Cemeteries here http://myclouds.tripod.com/shasta/cemindex.html Janie At 11:32 AM 5/1/2012, you wrote: >The NORCAL VOLUNTEER LOOKUP LIBRARY has been updated. We have >updated and new links; check out the "Trails" section. > >Please visit and bookmark: > >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/norcallib.html > >The library is a wonderful resource including the generous efforts >of all our lookup volunteers. If you are listed as a resource in the >Library or have contributed a link, please take a moment to be sure >your contact info is correct. Any comments, suggestions, >corrections, updates or deletions welcome. > >Enjoy! > > >*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* >Yvonne Bowers >Listmom, Webmom >NORCAL, SOCAL >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/norcallib.html > > > > > > > > > >----------------------------------------- >NORCAL ARCHIVES: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ >Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. >Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. >----------------------------------------- >To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to >[email protected] >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The NORCAL VOLUNTEER LOOKUP LIBRARY has been updated. We have updated and new links; check out the "Trails" section. Please visit and bookmark: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/norcallib.html The library is a wonderful resource including the generous efforts of all our lookup volunteers. If you are listed as a resource in the Library or have contributed a link, please take a moment to be sure your contact info is correct. Any comments, suggestions, corrections, updates or deletions welcome. Enjoy! *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Yvonne Bowers Listmom, Webmom NORCAL, SOCAL http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/norcallib.html

Thanks Roland! This is the first cemetery we have ever had this kind of a problem with. I'll keep everybody posted. Susan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ROLAND ELLIOTT Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 10:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NORCAL] Cemetery Plot Info Susan,as a former member of two cemetery districts we and most others when contacted conveyed the info asked for On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Susan Stuart <[email protected]> wrote: > Does anybody have any experience getting plot information from Lafayette > Cemetery in Lafayette, Contra Costa County, CA?

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Susan I recently asked some findagrave volunteers to take some pictures at Mt. Tamalpais Cemetery in San Rafael. I did not know the plot number. When they arrived at the cemetery office they were told that only family members are authorized to have plot information despite the fact that anyone can walk around the cemetery. I followed up with the management of the cemetery and someone did get back to me and told me that the person on duty that day was mistaken and that anyone can have that information. He went on to say that they get hundreds of requests via the Internet to lookup information and with a staff of only four people (only one on at a time) it was impossible to honor those requests. However, people walking into the office at the beginning of the cemetery would receive the information so they can visit the grave. He was kind enough to send me the plot information as well as two pictures, but he said that they do have a policy of simply not responding to email lookup requests. They simply don't have the time. I suspect what you ran into at Lafayette is something similar and the management there is trying to see if there is enough business at that price point to hire another person just to do lookups. However, maybe they just want to discourage lookups all together, I just don't know. Have you just tried to show up at the office and ask for the plot number? It is a risk to take the time to drive there and then find that they won't give you that information just as it happened in my case. Paul On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Susan Stuart <[email protected]> wrote: > Does anybody have any experience getting plot information from Lafayette > Cemetery in Lafayette, Contra Costa County, CA? > > > > My husband and I are volunteers for Find A Grave and just got our first > photo request for that cemetery. He called them and they said they charge > $65.00 for plot look ups! We have taken photographs at many other > cemeteries and never run into this before. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Susan > > > > ----------------------------------------- > NORCAL ARCHIVES: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. > Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. > ----------------------------------------- > To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Apr 28, 2012, at 4:40 PM, Marilyn Demas wrote: > Hi Bill, Did you move? I thought you lived up in Sea ranch. You good to see you back on board! > marilyn Demas Sacramento Yup. After twenty years on the ocean, back to my home digs in flat land sacatomato. Have two sons and their families within a mile or so, same community, and that makes it even more enjoyable being "home". Best regards, Bill Wilbur H. Haines 15181 De La Pena Circle Rancho Murieta, CA 95683

So, anyone on the list know how I can find lists of crew members from the Wellington or any information about them? I tried the Maritime website but haven't found anything yet. Martin Hearst, who was the seaman I am looking for is in S.F. city directories in 1897, 1899, and 1900 but I never find him in a census record anywhere. The Michael James Hearst who is my grgrgrandfather is in census records from 1900, 1910, and 1920 in S.F. - he died in 1921. I never find him in census records before 1900. I need that 1890 census. I never find him in NY at all. He was born in NY mid 1850's and his first child was born in NY in 1880, the rest of kids were all born here in S.F. I was hopeful to find Martin Hearst to see if he would give me a clue. Any suggestions?? Kat

Hi Kat....... I've not been following your story, so don't know the builder of this steamship - where it traveled from and to and in what time period -= HOWEVER. I do know the link to Google and searched Google for ---- Steamship Wellington --- and see this is a great deal listed there - suggest you read this links and see if there is something that matches what you are looking for. There are lots of books about steamers and other typed of ships traveling to and from the Goldfields in the mid to late 1800's (I have a few of them and though I checked all their indexed, I did not find this ship listed - so I found I could not help you - but there are lots of ships and their crews listed as well as the stories of how and where the sailed and how they sunk , if that was their fate... Look into links on Google you could stumble onto what you want... (or not).. - Also I have other links to ships and passenger lists, but seems I catch a scolding when I post links (spreading Spam, seems to be the charge in these scolding). So write to me privately and I'll send these links to you ... Fear not, just for the record... they do not contain any spam, - Good luck, Ruth ____________________ Ruth (Grady) Skewis [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 5:11PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NORCAL] New Question City Directories So, anyone on the list know how I can find lists of crew members from the Wellington or any information about them? I tried the Maritime website but haven't found anything yet. Martin Hearst, who was the seaman I am looking for is in S.F. city directories in 1897, 1899, and 1900 but I never find him in a census record anywhere. The Michael James Hearst who is my grgrgrandfather is in census records from 1900, 1910, and 1920 in S.F. - he died in 1921. I never find him in census records before 1900. I need that 1890 census. I never find him in NY at all. He was born in NY mid 1850's and his first child was born in NY in 1880, the rest of kids were all born here in S.F. I was hopeful to find Martin Hearst to see if he would give me a clue. Any suggestions?? Kat ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bill, Did you move? I thought you lived up in Sea ranch. You good to see you back on board! marilyn Demas Sacramento ________________________________ From: Wilbur H. Haines <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 2:40 AM Subject: Re: [NORCAL] New Question City Directories On Apr 28, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Ruth Skewis wrote: > Hi Bill - how you doing..???  been a while since we talked..!!! > > I'm sort of guessing, but in addition I think I'm sort of remembering > something that I learned doing research some time ago.  I THINK "str" means > STEAMER... WHICH MAKES SENSE SINCE HE IS SHOWN AS A SEAMAN...  Ya think..?? > - Yup, once again! The Steamship Wellington was also /involved in a court case - San Francisco Northern California Jurisdiction. Steamer is a more familiar term to describe the same type vessel Wilbur H. Haines 15181 De La Pena Circle Rancho Murieta, CA 95683 ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL.  Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The boy earns a gold star! It is the steamer Wellington Cathy Marin Co., CA "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast" - unknown

In one of the SF city directories I had found a Martin Hearst living at the same address as my grgrgrandfather Michael J. Hearst. I knew of no Martin Hearst but then I know nothing of my Hearst family before Michael and his wife Catherine came to California from NY. I have always wanted to pin down Michael's family but the Hearst name is very hard to search, and made more difficult by the fact that my grgrandfather is George Hearst and of course one of his brothers was William. Today I was reminded of this Martin Hearst and on a search found him in the 1897 city directory listed as follows: Hearst, Martin seaman str Wellington does anyone know what str is? Wellington? would love to find this Martin Hearst and maybe a clue to MY Hearst family. My George Matthew Hearst worked at the Examiner for his entire adult life, but I know of no connection to The Hearst family. Thanks for any help, Kat

On Apr 28, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Ruth Skewis wrote: > Hi Bill - how you doing..??? been a while since we talked..!!! > > I'm sort of guessing, but in addition I think I'm sort of remembering > something that I learned doing research some time ago. I THINK "str" means > STEAMER... WHICH MAKES SENSE SINCE HE IS SHOWN AS A SEAMAN... Ya think..?? > - Yup, once again! The Steamship Wellington was also /involved in a court case - San Francisco Northern California Jurisdiction. Steamer is a more familiar term to describe the same type vessel Wilbur H. Haines 15181 De La Pena Circle Rancho Murieta, CA 95683

Hi Bill - how you doing..??? been a while since we talked..!!! I'm sort of guessing, but in addition I think I'm sort of remembering something that I learned doing research some time ago. I THINK "str" means STEAMER... WHICH MAKES SENSE SINCE HE IS SHOWN AS A SEAMAN... Ya think..?? - Ruth ____________________ Ruth (Grady) Skewis [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Roddy Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 9:00AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NORCAL] New Question City Directories Str is Steamer, a ship. Wellington, name of ship. Bill -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 8:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NORCAL] New Question City Directories In one of the SF city directories I had found a Martin Hearst living at the same address as my grgrgrandfather Michael J. Hearst. I knew of no Martin Hearst but then I know nothing of my Hearst family before Michael and his wife Catherine came to California from NY. I have always wanted to pin down Michael's family but the Hearst name is very hard to search, and made more difficult by the fact that my grgrandfather is George Hearst and of course one of his brothers was William. Today I was reminded of this Martin Hearst and on a search found him in the 1897 city directory listed as follows: Hearst, Martin seaman str Wellington does anyone know what str is? Wellington? ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Nancy It's good to hear from you again. I always find your website very helpful and I have already check the 1916 telephone directory, but no go. I know the Thomas family were working class people and probably couldn't afford a phone. In the last day I have found out that George H Thomas was still alive in 1917 and had changed his occupation from "electrn" to "opr" but then he disappears from the SF City Directory in 1918. I also know from one of his step-son's WWI draft registration signed on 12 Sep 1918 that he named his mother, Elizabeth as his contact. The address was 1124 Magnolia in Oakland. So, if I could get my hands on at least the 1918 Alameda County directory I might have a chance of finding him with his new occupation. Perhaps the 1918 directory was destroyed or was never published. I can't find any source that has it. Paul On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Nancy Pratt-Melton <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi Paul, > > I have a 1916 Alameda County Telephone book online: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~npmelton/ala_indx.html > > In 1916 not too many people had phones, but maybe you'll get lucky. I > also have link to Google for a 1916 City Directory. > > Hope this helps, > > > Nancy Pratt Melton > Golden Nugget Library > [email protected] > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~npmelton/index.html >

Str is Steamer, a ship. Wellington, name of ship. Bill -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 8:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NORCAL] New Question City Directories In one of the SF city directories I had found a Martin Hearst living at the same address as my grgrgrandfather Michael J. Hearst. I knew of no Martin Hearst but then I know nothing of my Hearst family before Michael and his wife Catherine came to California from NY. I have always wanted to pin down Michael's family but the Hearst name is very hard to search, and made more difficult by the fact that my grgrandfather is George Hearst and of course one of his brothers was William. Today I was reminded of this Martin Hearst and on a search found him in the 1897 city directory listed as follows: Hearst, Martin seaman str Wellington does anyone know what str is? Wellington?

Paul, I hope this isn't information you already have. I haven't followed this thread. The Oakland Library has most of Alameda County's directories. When I lived there 12 years ago, they did free look ups in the Oakland History  R oom. 510-238-3222 Susan

Sheila, Thanks for your note. I can't imagine that they misunderstood that we were Find A Grave volunteers and just wanted plot info to take a picture, but who knows! Lafayette Cemetery is a public cemetery supported by tax dollars so maybe they are trying to make a few $$ for themselves. We have two other huge cemeteries here, and like you, I have a relationship with one of them -- I just email them for the plot information. The other is a Catholic Cemetery and you just go into the office any day of the week, and they open their book and give you the plot info and a map, and offer to walk you there if you are worried about finding it. Thanks again, Susan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sheila Ruiz Harrell Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 3:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NORCAL] Cemetery Plot Info Just this week I've receive emails from two cemetery districts with the plot info I had requested. I've worked with both for years, maybe that helps, but they do this for free. Do you think the Lafayette Cemetery thought you were requesting a full transcription of their record? But still, $65 is just plain ridiculous! Sheila -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Elvina Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 3:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NORCAL] Cemetery Plot Info That ranks right up there will charging $25 for an obituary..........outrageous!!! Fortunately our local cemeteries not only look up the site but will take you, in a golf cart, to the plot. ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Brown To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [NORCAL] Cemetery Plot Info Susan, >I have never heard of that before. Who is the person who does the look ups at >that cemetery? Perhaps it is a private group, but that is way too much to >charge for a simple look up perhaps on their computer. :( ________________________________ From: Susan Stuart <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, April 27, 2012 10:36:38 AM Subject: [NORCAL] Cemetery Plot Info Does anybody have any experience getting plot information from Lafayette Cemetery in Lafayette, Contra Costa County, CA? My husband and I are volunteers for Find A Grave and just got our first photo request for that cemetery. He called them and they said they charge $65.00 for plot look ups! We have taken photographs at many other cemeteries and never run into this before. Thanks in advance. Susan ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL. Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Marjorie, Thank you so much for your offer. You probably saw in my message to Barbara that we found the Lafayette Historical Society on the net and have emailed them. In the meantime, if we don't hear back from them, I would very much appreciate it if you would look it up. The photo requested is for: Emmette Simpson B: 30 Oct 1881, D: 06 May 1963 Thanks again for your kind offer! Susan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marjorie Newton Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 3:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NORCAL] Cemetery Plot Info Contra Costa County Historical Society has records of those interred in the cemeteries in the county.  They also maintain obituaries and old newspapers.  They don't have pictures of gravestones.  They may be able to help you locate a specific grave.    Their website is cocohistory .com If you will let me know the name of the person you are trying to locate, I can look for it on Wednesday.

Just this week I've receive emails from two cemetery districts with the plot info I had requested. I've worked with both for years, maybe that helps, but they do this for free. Do you think the Lafayette Cemetery thought you were requesting a full transcription of their record? But still, $65 is just plain ridiculous! Sheila -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Elvina Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 3:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NORCAL] Cemetery Plot Info That ranks right up there will charging $25 for an obituary..........outrageous!!! Fortunately our local cemeteries not only look up the site but will take you, in a golf cart, to the plot. ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Brown To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [NORCAL] Cemetery Plot Info Susan, >I have never heard of that before. Who is the person who does the look ups at >that cemetery? Perhaps it is a private group, but that is way too much to >charge for a simple look up perhaps on their computer. :( ________________________________ From: Susan Stuart <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, April 27, 2012 10:36:38 AM Subject: [NORCAL] Cemetery Plot Info Does anybody have any experience getting plot information from Lafayette Cemetery in Lafayette, Contra Costa County, CA? My husband and I are volunteers for Find A Grave and just got our first photo request for that cemetery. He called them and they said they charge $65.00 for plot look ups! We have taken photographs at many other cemeteries and never run into this before. Thanks in advance. Susan

Contra Costa County Historical Society has records of those interred in the cemeteries in the county.  They also maintain obituaries and old newspapers.  They don't have pictures of gravestones.  They may be able to help you locate a specific grave.    Their website is cocohistory .com If you will let me know the name of the person you are trying to locate, I can look for it on Wednesday.