This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: GROSS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lcC.2ACI/341.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you PR for your advice. I have two problems with LDS films. 1. is a vision problem. The other is transportation to the nearest FHL. Here in the USA newspapers carried either/or death notices (no information other than death occured, date and sometimes cau);. Full obituaries were printed, generally for the upper class. I have been unable to learn of a newspaper in Kristiansand but I am sure they had at least one even 128 years ago. My how time flies!! Another possible source to learn his date of death would be the Sheriff's death list and or propate records. I just need to know where to send for those records. thank you for the information on cemetery. I did figure it would be a churchyard burial. He was quite well off so thought perhaps an indestructable head stone, tombstone or monument might have survived. Thank you again. If I can pin down a pair of eyes and driver, I may have to rely on the LDS microfilm or perhaps a empathetic LDS researcher in Salt Lake Ciry. Be safe, Helen Mc