Received this offlist. Margit ---------- From: Cematapey@aol.com Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 23:30:33 -0700 To: NOR-OPPLAND-L-request@rootsweb.com Subject: Skartlien Farm and family Seeking information on Martin Torgersen/Thorgersen and his wife Helene Nilsd. Skartlien. Martin was born about 1807 and Helene was born about 1810. I believe they had about 10 children. The farm is in Torpa. According to a story I have, the family farm was divided about 1830 into Skartlien South and Skartlien North, and my family descended from Skartlien South. The family belonged to the Amot Kirke????? I would like to have dates on both Martin and Helene - birth, baptism, marriage and death. If I am lucky enough to get those then I will start asking about the children. Their third son, Kristian, was my great grandfather and he emigrated to the U.S. with his sister Marthe and brother Torger/Thorger in 1866 on the Anna Delius. Thank you for any help. Mary Ann <cematapey@aol.com>

Hi Mary Ann, Here is your family in the 1865 census of Norway: <http://draug.rhd.isv.uit.no/ftsoek/ftsoek.asp?kommando=bosted&ftaar=1865&sp raak=engelsk_britisk&kommnr=0536&kretsnr=0004&bostnr=0055&leilnr=000> Here are four of the children: Vital Records Index - Norway 1. Christian MARTINSEN - Vital Records Index / NO Gender: M Birth/Christening: 04 Feb 1848 Nordre Land, Oppland, Norway <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/VR/individual_record.asp?recid=28364 806&lds=4&region=12&regionfriendly=Norway&frompage=99> 2. Maria MARTINSDATTER - Vital Records Index / NO Gender: F Birth/Christening: 27 Jul 1850 Nordre Land, Oppland, Norway <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/VR/individual_record.asp?recid=28365 795&lds=4&region=12&regionfriendly=Norway&frompage=99> 3. Ingeborg Maria MARTINSDATTER - Vital Records Index / NO Gender: F Birth/Christening: 14 Jun 1853 Nordre Land, Oppland, Norway <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/VR/individual_record.asp?recid=28366 968&lds=4&region=12&regionfriendly=Norway&frompage=99> 4. Helena Marthea MARTINSDATTER - Vital Records Index / NO Gender: F Birth/Christening: 02 Nov 1855 Nordre Land, Oppland, Norway <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/VR/individual_record.asp?recid=28368 069&lds=4&region=12&regionfriendly=Norway&frompage=99> These are from actual Church Records. Be sure to print them all out for your records. www.familysearch.org Margit > From: Cematapey@aol.com > Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 23:30:33 -0700 > To: NOR-OPPLAND-L-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: Skartlien Farm and family > > Seeking information on Martin Torgersen/Thorgersen and his wife Helene > Nilsd. > Skartlien. Martin was born about 1807 and Helene was born about 1810. I > believe they had about 10 children. The farm is in Torpa. According to a > story I have, the family farm was divided about 1830 into Skartlien South > and > Skartlien North, and my family descended from Skartlien South. > The family belonged to the Amot Kirke????? I would like to have dates on > both Martin and Helene - birth, baptism, marriage and death. If I am lucky > enough to get those then I will start asking about the children. > Their third son, Kristian, was my great grandfather and he emigrated to the > U.S. with his sister Marthe and brother Torger/Thorger in 1866 on the Anna > Delius. > Thank you for any help. > Mary Ann <cematapey@aol.com>

Here is a good possible for your Martin in Gausdal where he was born according to the 1865 census about 1803. <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/individual_record.asp?recid=5002 21749904&lds=1&region=12&regionfriendly=Norway&frompage=99> Margit > > Seeking information on Martin Torgersen/Thorgersen and his wife Helene > Nilsd. > Skartlien. Martin was born about 1807 and Helene was born about 1810. I > believe they had about 10 children. The farm is in Torpa. According to a > story I have, the family farm was divided about 1830 into Skartlien South > and > Skartlien North, and my family descended from Skartlien South. > The family belonged to the Amot Kirke????? I would like to have dates on > both Martin and Helene - birth, baptism, marriage and death. If I am lucky > enough to get those then I will start asking about the children. > Their third son, Kristian, was my great grandfather and he emigrated to the > U.S. with his sister Marthe and brother Torger/Thorger in 1866 on the Anna > Delius. > Thank you for any help. > Mary Ann <cematapey@aol.com>