This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3176.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In western Norway, North of Bergen in Sogn og Fjordane, I find this interesting widowed mother and young daughter born in 1857, in Førde parish. http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=1432&kenr=001&bnr=0041&lnr=000 Marte Ludvigsdatter e Føderaadskone 1825 Jølsters Prgj. Lovise Ingebrigtsdatter hendes Datter ug 1857 Jølsters Prgj. The mother appears to be the widow of the man who owned the farm called Holsen. Holsen is a local parish in Førde too. I did find a death in 1859 for a married man from Holsen farm. The timing is right and the name is similar to your information. http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=30&filnamn=sogngrav&gardpostnr=86174&merk=86174#ovre 86174 1432 27/1 1859 m Ingebrigt Antons. Holsen g 1815 0 Buried Jan. 27, 1859, male, Ingebrigt Antonsen Holsen, married, b. 1815. This information fits the Norwegian naming patterns a bit better. Antonsen is more common that Albertson was at that time. Lovise would have been Ingebrigtsdatter in Norway. HEre is an online marriage record that ties this couple together. http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=42&filnamn=sognvigd&gardpostnr=39066&merk=39066#ovre 39066 7 6 1857 Ingebrigt Antons. 1814 Holsen 1 Marta Ludvikd. 1825 Slåtten 1 1432 Married June 7, 1857, Ingebrigt Antons.(son) b. 1814 from Holsen farm in Førde, first marriage, to Marta Ludvikdatter, b. 1825 from Slåtten farm in Førde, her first marriage He dies in 1859, living at Holsen farm, by the 1865 census, Martha/Marta and Lovise are still on the farm. I think the Førde bygdebok for the Holsen parish area might show more detail about this family. http://www.rootsweb.com/~wgnorway/lookups.html This page shows that there are some lookups volunteers who own the book and are willing to do some limited lookups for you. You need Holsen farm for Ingebrigt Antonsson who died 1859. It might say how he died, even if by drowning. Most farmers were also fisherman, having fishing rights with their seaside farmsteads. Forde bygdabok Band I and II by Finn Borgen Forsund Howard [email protected] the book might be available through interlibrary loan, check with your local librarian. It's in Norwegian, but sometimes you can find the farm chapter, and then just scan for names and dates. FØRDE Førsund, Finn B. Førde bydgebok: gardssoge og soga om folket. As: Førde kommune, 1990.Call No. DL596.F75 F67 1990 v.1-2 But I think the whole story is on this page, in Norwegian. two-thirds of the way down on this page: http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/sab/jolstut.htm Utvandret 1867: (emigrated 1867) Marte Ludvigsdatter Slåtten (født 7. mars 1824) Marte Ludvigsdatter Slåtten (born 7th March, 1824) Gift i Førde 7. juni 1857 med gardbruker Ingebrigt Antonsen Holsen. Gardbrukere på Holsen til mannens død i 1859.Married in Førde June 7, 1857 with farmer Ingebrigt Antonsen Holsen. Farmed at Holsen until her husband died in 1859. Marte hadde kår av Holsen til hun sa det opp 15. april 1867. Da brukte hun navnet Marte Haarklou. Hadde datteren Lovise Ingebrigtsdatter, født 3. august 1857 i FørdeMarte had survivors rights at Holsen until she settled them up 15th April, 1867. At that time she was using the name Marte Haarklou. Had the daughter Lovise Ingebrigtsdatter, b. 3 August 1857 in Førde. Utvandret med skipet "Helvetia" fra Bergen 2. mai 1867, til Quebec 17. juni 1867. Er oppgitt å være i Nordamerika i skiftet etter hennes mor i 1870. Adressen var ukjent, og hun hadde ikke meldt seg som arving i 1876. Var ved folketellingen 1865 bosatt på Holsen i Førd Emigrated with the ship Helvetia from Bergen the 2nd May, 1867, to Quebec 17th June, 1867. Is known to have been in North America when her mother's will was read in 1870. The address was unknown, and she ??didn't get the inheritance in 1876?. She was on the 1865 Norway census, living at Holsen in Førde. also, post your question on the Sogn og Fjordane page, under the heading Førde question or something like that. http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.sognogfjordane