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    1. Re: [Opp] Andreas Iversen Bjuge, Iver Engebretsen Bjuge, Eline Marie Gulbrandsen
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jeremythemad Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3319.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you, I'll poke through that site. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    01/03/2011 07:11:20
    1. Re: [Opp] Andreas Iversen Bjuge, Iver Engebretsen Bjuge, Eline Marie Gulbrandsen
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: arakipederson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3319.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I believe we need to SCRAP ALL of my research on ELINE MARIA... I was surfing the Internet and came across the following website: "http://angelar.com/~jeremy/bjuge/" QUOTE: Anette Bjuge was one of Carl's sisters. She was born March 17th, 1879, fourteen years after Carl, and her death certificate lists her father as Andreas Eversen Bjuge (though the Norwegian census at this site lists Andreas' middle initial as I, so it is probable that the coroner mispelled her father's middle name), and her mother as Eline Marie Gulbranson. Her occupation is listed as Cook, for a private home, and she passed on July 5th, 1940. UNQUOTE This takes our search to AKER, AKERSHUS, where we find them in the 1865 census, with two children CARL BERGTHOR and INGEBORG JOHANNE, and Andreas' mother BERTHE BAARDSDATTER BJUGE: "http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=6&filnamn=f60218a&gardpostnr=629&sokefelt=skjul" This DOES show that Eline was born in BIRI. She is 25 years old here, so she was born about 1840-41. I STILL cannot find their marriage - in Biri or Aker..... I also looked for the births of their two children Carl and Ingeborg, and came up empty........ Have a nice day! Clark in Japan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    01/03/2011 02:54:46
    1. Re: [Opp] Andreas Iversen Bjuge, Iver Engebretsen Bjuge, Eline Marie Gulbrandsen
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: arakipederson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3319.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: IF we have the right girl, these are her siblings: ELINE MARIA GULBRANDSEN - Birth: 05 SEP / Christening: 06 SEP 1824 POULINE GULBRANDSEN - Birth: 14 JUL / Christening: 13 AUG 1826 INGEBORG GULBRANDSEN - Birth: 22 DEC 1828 / Christening: 18 JAN 1829 LISE GULBRANDSEN - Birth: 25 OCT / Christening: 07 NOV 1830 MAREN GULBRANDSEN - Birth: 08 FEB / Christening: 10 MAR 1833 CHRISTIANE ANTONETTE GULBRANDSEN - Birth: 07 OCT / Christening: 25 OCT 1835 OLE GULBRANDSEN - Christening: 30 JUN 1839 GULBRAND GULBRANDSEN - Christening: 02 OCT 1842 Clark in Japan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    01/03/2011 12:14:23
    1. Re: [Opp] Andreas Iversen Bjuge, Iver Engebretsen Bjuge, Eline Marie Gulbrandsen
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: arakipederson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3319.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I find one ELINE MARIA GULBRANDSEN / datter, born on 05 / baptized on 06 SEPTEMBER 1824 in BIRI, to GULBRAND PEDERSEN and KAREN LARSDATTER: ENTRY #37, RIGHT page........ Oppland county, Biri, Parish register (official) nr. 3 (1814-1828), Birth and baptism records 1824, page 69. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9297&idx_id=9297&uid=ny&idx_side=-69 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070603680688.jpg We will need to find her marriage to Andreas to help confirm if this is the RIGHT girl we are looking for. Clark in Japan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    01/03/2011 12:01:14
    1. Re: [Opp] Andreas Iversen Bjuge, Iver Engebretsen Bjuge, Eline Marie Gulbrandsen
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: arakipederson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3319.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: HAPPY NEW YEAR! Starting with the marriage of IVER ENGEBRETSEN and BERTHE BAARSDATTER BJUGE on 27 MARCH 1817: He is 35 (born about 1782) and she is 30 (born about 1787 - I REALLY question the 1804 date given, since her first child appears in 1819.........) Oppland county, Biri, Parish register (official) nr. 3 (1814-1828), Marriage records 1817, page 196. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9297&idx_id=9297&uid=ny&idx_side=-142 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070603690031.jpg SECOND from bottom, right page, is the only IVER I can find around this period born to ENGEBRET. You'll need someone with better eyes than mine to read the details / date / etc. Oppland county, Biri, Parish register (official) nr. 2 (1754-1789), Birth and baptism records 1782, page 284-285. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9294&idx_id=9294&uid=ny&idx_side=-145 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070603680069.jpg ...and the only BERTE I can find born to a BAARD in second from the bottom, left page: Oppland county, Biri, Parish register (official) nr. 2 (1754-1789), Birth and baptism records 1787, page 376-377. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9294&idx_id=9294&uid=ny&idx_side=-191 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070603680115.jpg CHILDREN ENTRY #15, bottom right page, is KARI's birth on 04 APRIL / baptism on 08 APRIL 1819: Oppland county, Biri, Parish register (official) nr. 3 (1814-1828), Birth and baptism records 1819, page 28. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9297&idx_id=9297&uid=ny&idx_side=-28 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070603680647.jpg ENTRY #42, is ANDREAS' birth AND baptism on 18 OCTOBER 1821: Oppland county, Biri, Parish register (official) nr. 3 (1814-1828), Birth and baptism records 1821, page 46. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9297&idx_id=9297&uid=ny&idx_side=-46 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070603680665.jpg ENTRY #41, top right page, is ELINE's birth on 21 OCTOBER / baptism on 22 OCTOBER 1824: Oppland county, Biri, Parish register (official) nr. 3 (1814-1828), Birth and baptism records 1824, page 70. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9297&idx_id=9297&uid=ny&idx_side=-70 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070603680689.jpg SORRY, but I cannot find ANY marriage of Andreas to Eline Marie in/around 1840.... Have a nice day! Clark in Japan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    01/02/2011 11:47:18
    1. Re: [Opp] Andreas Iversen Bjuge, Iver Engebretsen Bjuge, Eline Marie Gulbrandsen
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AmyChristine72 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3319.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Try this site... http://www.slektshistorielaget.no/ If you click on the American flag in the upper right hand corner it will be in English. Click on Sources (left hand side) then Gjovik. I found Andreas Iversen you mentioned by searching using his first name and his fathers first name. This site has been helpful to me... you just have to look around a bit. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    01/02/2011 11:45:47
    1. [Opp] Andreas Iversen Bjuge, Iver Engebretsen Bjuge, Eline Marie Gulbrandsen
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jeremythemad Surnames: iversen engebretsen bjuge baardsdatter Ingebretsen Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3319/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Andreas Iversen Bjuge was born in 1821. His father was Iver Engebretsen Bjuge, no date available. Mother was Berthe Baardsdatter, born 1804 in Biri. Familysearch.org indicates that Andreas Iversen was born 18 October 1821. I do not find him in the Biri churchbook, at arkivverket.no, however. Are there additional books which have not been scanned? I believe Iver Berthe had two additional siblings: Eline Iversdatter (Iversen according to familysearch.org) Bjuge (I've found her in the biri churchbook, and familysearch.org(21 OCT 1824 -- as confirmed by the churchbook of biri for births, 1824 ) Karl (kari?) Iversen Bjuge (born 4 APR 1819 -- I could not find him (her?) in the scanned churchbook, but I did find reference in familysearch.org ) I'm looking to see if Andreas Iversen had any more siblings, for what happened to the two I've listed, and to see if I can get any additional information on Iver Engebretsen(?) and Berthe Baardsdatter Andreas Iversen Bjuge married Eline Marie Gulbrandsen/Gulbrandsdatter, born in Biri, 1840. I'd greatly appreciate any additional information on her and her family, too. Thanks for any tips anyone can lend me. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    01/02/2011 10:56:32
    1. Re: [Opp] Looking for relatives of my grandmother
    2. J Dahl
    3. I believe that you are the person who is helping to find a person's ancestors from Germany. Do you have access to any German records from the early 1820's? Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [Opp] Looking for relatives of my grandmother > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: Ladyshane321 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3318.1.2/mb.ashx >

    12/27/2010 11:01:53
    1. Re: [Opp] Looking for relatives of my grandmother
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Ladyshane321 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3318.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I went to the Ellis Island web site since that is where my cousin's paper work came from. I did find Anna Munson aboard the Taormina in 1892, I do not believe that she is the right anna Munson that I have been looking for. This person came to the US with her whole family, my grandmother came over either alone or with a sister. I do not know her Father's name or I would try to find him, I do know that he did come to the US after she was already here. I will just have to start all over again with trying to find her, but thank you for your interest in helping me. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    12/27/2010 06:29:54
    1. Re: [Opp] Looking for relatives of my grandmother
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Ladyshane321 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3318.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If you go to the Ellis Island web site and go to the ships, click the T's then click on the Taormina ((1984) and look through the passenger list for Anna Munson you will find her listed as a passenger on that ship. http://www.ellisisland.org/default.asp# it is the information from that passenger listing that said she was Prussian. I found that it seems she traveled with a family, so now I am not so sure that I even have the right person. The more I search for her the more I come up with no answers and more questions. i think I will have to just go back and try to start over again. Thanks for your interest in helping me find her. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    12/27/2010 06:26:17
    1. Re: [Opp] Looking for relatives of my grandmother
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: peder27 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3318.3.1.1.3.2.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: noted your tree that you have done Anna Munson, b. 1876 in Prussia? Ethnicity: Prussia Date of Arrival: Mar 28, 1892 Age at Arrival: 16 [ b.1876] Ship of Travel: Taormina (1884) Port of Departure: Hamburg Manifest Line Number: 0259 Nevad Family Tree - Ancestry.com - Owner: Ladyshane321 Anna Amelia Munson, b. June 22, 1877 in Prussia; d. March 03, 1973 In Plainfield, New Jersey m. Aug 20, 1898 to Hans Peter Christian Nevad Sr.in Perth Amboy, New Jersey   1910: Perth Amboy Ward 4, Middlesex, New Jersey Peter Nevad 43, head, b. ? Looks like a town in Denmark parents; immig. 1887; presser - ? Anna Nevad 30,wife, b. Norway parents; Immig. 1897 Children all born in NJ. Lena Nevad 11 Weels Nevad 10 Dorthea Nevad 8 Thena Nevad 6 Agnes Nevad 4 Morie Nevad 2 Hans Nevad 7/12 [0]  1920: South Amboy Ward 4, Middlesex, New Jersey Peter Nevad 53, head, b. Denmark parent; terra cotta presser - terra cotta co. Immig. 1886 Anna Nevad 48, wife, b. Norway parents; immig. 1895 Children all b. NJ Nels Nevad 20 Anna Nevad 16 Agnes Nevad 14 Marie Nevad 12 Hans Nevad 10 Thomas Nevad 8 Andrew Nevad 5 Henry Nevad 3 Photos of all 13 children are posted on above tree. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    12/27/2010 05:11:37
    1. Re: [Opp] Looking for relatives of my grandmother
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: peder27 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3318.3.1.1.3.2.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: seems to be Hans Nevad.. http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=ROOT_CATEGORY&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=ms_f-2&gsfn=hans&gsln=nevad&uidh=fd7 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    12/27/2010 01:32:08
    1. Re: [Opp] Looking for relatives of my grandmother
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Ladyshane321 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3318.3.1.1.3.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you, I could read the name but I do not know what the numbers mean, also could you read what the name of the person below her #13 is. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    12/27/2010 12:34:33
    1. Re: [Opp] Looking for relatives of my grandmother
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Ladyshane321 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3318.3.1.1.3.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for your help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    12/27/2010 12:27:44
    1. Re: [Opp] Looking for relatives of my grandmother
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BrianGaber Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3318.3.1.1.3.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Peder, This Anna Amalie died in 1895 This will at least elimate Anna Amalie Gunderson from the list of possibilities. Anne Amalie, daughter of Anders Gundersen and Gunvor Anstensdatter, born 14 October 1877 at Sandreb, Øvrebø, Vest-Agder. Died of tuberculosis on 10 July 1895 at Sandrep and was buried 17 July 1895. http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&am... Brian Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    12/27/2010 08:49:14
    1. Re: [Opp] Looking for relatives of my grandmother
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: peder27 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3318.3.1.1.3.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Anna confirmation #13 Kildeinformasjon: Vest-Agder fylke, Øvrebø, Ministerialbok nr. A 9 (1884-1901), Konfirmerte 1892, side 117. Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1032&idx_id=1032&uid=ny&idx_side=-80 Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051205040908.jpg Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    12/27/2010 07:21:34
    1. Re: [Opp] Looking for relatives of my grandmother
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: margitnysetvoldbakke Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3318.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have to agree with Brian on this one. If she was adopted, any surname was possible. I would suggest you get a good Norwegian-American Dictionary. Otto Jorgenson has a great site online also here: http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/files/word.htm We were all new at onetime and now love to help others when we are able. First thing to learn is to be open to all suggestions and remember that genealogy is based on facts. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    12/27/2010 06:47:41
    1. Re: [Opp] Looking for relatives of my grandmother
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BrianGaber Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3318.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This record is definately not the correct person. I have checked the original German records from Hamburg, and the name is definately "Anna Mumm", not "Anna Munsen". This is a German family, from Tetenhusen, Schleswig, Prussia. Both the New York passenger lists and the Hamburg lists show Tetenhusen as the residence of the Clemens Mumm family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    12/27/2010 06:40:56
    1. Re: [Opp] Looking for relatives of my grandmother
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Ladyshane321 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3318.7.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you, I have posted on the message board in Roots. Ladyshane321 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    12/27/2010 05:45:57
    1. Re: [Opp] Looking for relatives of my grandmother
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Ladyshane321 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3318.3.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: She is number 259 listed as Anna Munson, the ship is Taormina, she arrived in US on March 28, 1892. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    12/27/2010 05:42:18