Ingeborg and her children John, Marie, Marit and Ole (2 years old) had Byron, MN as destination recorded on 5th July 1878. Helge Hålåsæter (Harlaugseter neighboring Harlauglien) ------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Opprinnelig melding----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 3:37 PM To: NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Opp] Syver Syversen Vistedkleven, b. Nov. 1840 in Vaagaa area. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TarynMN Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3320.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Here is Syver Syversen on the 1865 census, http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0515&kenr=006&bnr=0085&lnr=000 Census year: 1865 Municipality: Vågå Municipality number: 0515 Name of domicile: Harlauglien Number of persons in this domicile: 6 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Family status Marital status Occupation Birth year Place of birth Ethnicity Frederik Johnsen Husfader g Husmand med Jord 1806 Vaage Mari Olsdatter hans Kone g 1806 Vaage Ingeborg Frederiksdatter deres Datter ug 1843 Vaage Kari Frederiksdatter deres Datter ug 1846 Vaage Syver Syversen Inderst ug 1841 Vaage John Syversen hans Søn ug 1864 Vaage And Syver Syversen on the 1875 census, then they emigrated in 1878. So 1865 shows his birth year as 1841, and 1875 census shows his birth as 1839. http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1875&knr=0517&kenr=008&bnr=0069&lnr=00 Census year: 1875 Municipality: Sel Municipality number: 0517 Name of domicile: Harlauglien Number of persons in this domicile: 8 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Family status Marital status Occupation Birth year Place of birth Ethnicity Fredrik Johnsen hf g Husmand 1808 Sel Mari Olsdatter Hans Kone g 1813 Vaage S. P. Syver Syversen hf g Driver Pladsen isammen Fredrik Johns. 1839 Vaage S. P. Ingeborg Fredriksdatter Hans Kone g 1842 Vaage S. P. John Syversen Deres Søn 1864 Vaage S. P. Syver Syversen Deres Søn 1867 Vaage S. P. Mari Syversdatter Deres Datter 1869 Vaage S. P. Marit Syversdatter Deres Datter 1871 Vaage S. P. On April 19, 1878, there was a group saying they were from Gudbrandsdalen, going to Lake P. Minnesota - not sure if it is Lake Pepin, Lake Park? But Syver S. Kleven (for Syver Syversen Vistedkleven) and his son Syver Syversen left Norway first, his wife and other children went later. 43930 Oslo 246 1878 April 19 Ragnild Sve f G 48 Gulbrandsdalen Lake P. Minn. 1437 Norge Betalt Angelo 43931 Oslo 247A 1878 April 19 Syver S. Kleven m G Arbeider 40 Gulbrandsdalen Lake P. Minn. 1438 Norge Betalt Angelo 43932 Oslo 247B 1878 April 19 Syver Syversen m u 10 Gulbrandsdalen Lake P. Minn. 1439 Norge Angelo 43933 Oslo 248 1878 April 19 Ole E. Runningen m u Arbeider 26 Gulbrandsdalen Lake P. Minn. 1440 Norge Betalt Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOR-OPPLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TarynMN Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3320.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Here is Syver Syversen on the 1865 census, http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0515&kenr=006&bnr=0085&lnr=000 Census year: 1865 Municipality: Vågå Municipality number: 0515 Name of domicile: Harlauglien Number of persons in this domicile: 6 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Family status Marital status Occupation Birth year Place of birth Ethnicity Frederik Johnsen Husfader g Husmand med Jord 1806 Vaage Mari Olsdatter hans Kone g 1806 Vaage Ingeborg Frederiksdatter deres Datter ug 1843 Vaage Kari Frederiksdatter deres Datter ug 1846 Vaage Syver Syversen Inderst ug 1841 Vaage John Syversen hans Søn ug 1864 Vaage And Syver Syversen on the 1875 census, then they emigrated in 1878. So 1865 shows his birth year as 1841, and 1875 census shows his birth as 1839. http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1875&knr=0517&kenr=008&bnr=0069&lnr=00 Census year: 1875 Municipality: Sel Municipality number: 0517 Name of domicile: Harlauglien Number of persons in this domicile: 8 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Family status Marital status Occupation Birth year Place of birth Ethnicity Fredrik Johnsen hf g Husmand 1808 Sel Mari Olsdatter Hans Kone g 1813 Vaage S. P. Syver Syversen hf g Driver Pladsen isammen Fredrik Johns. 1839 Vaage S. P. Ingeborg Fredriksdatter Hans Kone g 1842 Vaage S. P. John Syversen Deres Søn 1864 Vaage S. P. Syver Syversen Deres Søn 1867 Vaage S. P. Mari Syversdatter Deres Datter 1869 Vaage S. P. Marit Syversdatter Deres Datter 1871 Vaage S. P. On April 19, 1878, there was a group saying they were from Gudbrandsdalen, going to Lake P. Minnesota - not sure if it is Lake Pepin, Lake Park? But Syver S. Kleven (for Syver Syversen Vistedkleven) and his son Syver Syversen left Norway first, his wife and other children went later. 43930 Oslo 246 1878 April 19 Ragnild Sve f G 48 Gulbrandsdalen Lake P. Minn. 1437 Norge Betalt Angelo 43931 Oslo 247A 1878 April 19 Syver S. Kleven m G Arbeider 40 Gulbrandsdalen Lake P. Minn. 1438 Norge Betalt Angelo 43932 Oslo 247B 1878 April 19 Syver Syversen m u 10 Gulbrandsdalen Lake P. Minn. 1439 Norge Angelo 43933 Oslo 248 1878 April 19 Ole E. Runningen m u Arbeider 26 Gulbrandsdalen Lake P. Minn. 1440 Norge Betalt Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: thoraway Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3320.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: What birthplace did the 1865 census list for him? The US 1900 census should give an immigration year. Have you found the Norwegian emigration record? Did it list any additional information about his origins? Some ports collected birthplace info. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Dear Taryn, As you know I am familiar with the places Heidal (Hedalen) and Vågå (Vaage), and Ingeborg = Imbjør Harlaugseie/Harlouglien was my greatgrandmother's first cousin. I cannot find Syver Syversen baptized in Oppland arkiv or in scanned church records. But at the baptism of their oldest son John Syverseb 1864, I do find Syver Visteeie (=Vistekeiven) and Imbjor Harlougseie to be his parents. Maybe Syver Syversen was not born in Vaage ? Helge --------------------------------------------------- -----Opprinnelig melding----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 2:30 AM To: NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Opp] Syver Syversen Vistedkleven, b. Vaagaa, 1840 or so. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TarynMN Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3320/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm looking for the parents, and a birth record in Vaagaa for Syver Syversen from Vistedkleven, who also used the farm names Kleven, Harlauglien, and finally Lien (in Minnesota) this is his marriage record. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8918&idx_id=8918&uid=ny&idx_side=-198 Syver Syversen b. ca. 1840 in Vaagaa (his Minnesota death certificate says born Nov. 19, 1840), son of Syver Knudsen Vistedkleven, moved to Harlaugeie or Harlauglien in Heidal (Vaagaa) and married. It says his father's name is Syver Knudsen Vistedkleven, but it doesn't say his mother's name. Syver Knudsen Vistedkleven married Marit Jacobsdatter 11 Nov. 1841. But this is almost a year after Syver Syversen's birth? Maybe? If the Minnesota birthdate is correct, although it was given to the recorder by his son-in-law. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOR-OPPLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GHolter4484 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3320.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am not very familiar with this parish, so I don't really know why he is not in the parish records. But I would suggest checking plus or minus several years, since information recorded by census takers is notably variable. Perhaps someone else monitoring this list has other suggestions? Greg Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TarynMN Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3320.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Even the 1900 census, where Syver gave the information to the census taker himself, says he was born Nov. 1840. But I can't seem to find his birth in the digitized parish records for Vaagaa. Am I looking in the right area? Vaagaa, Heidal, Sel? Fron? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GHolter4484 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3320.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Perhaps Syver is the son of a previous wife who died? Have you checked for earlier marriages of the father? Or perhaps some of the dates are wrong? Or perhaps Syver was illegitimate? Some possibilities to consider. Greg Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TarynMN Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3320/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm looking for the parents, and a birth record in Vaagaa for Syver Syversen from Vistedkleven, who also used the farm names Kleven, Harlauglien, and finally Lien (in Minnesota) this is his marriage record. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8918&idx_id=8918&uid=ny&idx_side=-198 Syver Syversen b. ca. 1840 in Vaagaa (his Minnesota death certificate says born Nov. 19, 1840), son of Syver Knudsen Vistedkleven, moved to Harlaugeie or Harlauglien in Heidal (Vaagaa) and married. It says his father's name is Syver Knudsen Vistedkleven, but it doesn't say his mother's name. Syver Knudsen Vistedkleven married Marit Jacobsdatter 11 Nov. 1841. But this is almost a year after Syver Syversen's birth? Maybe? If the Minnesota birthdate is correct, although it was given to the recorder by his son-in-law. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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Norway reality show seeks Americans of Norwegian descent deadline is Monday The producers of Norway's version of "Dancing With The Stars" and "American Idol" are coming back to the U.S. to find fun, outgoing Americans with Norwegian ancestry to participate in Season Two of their exciting and enormously successful reality television series "The Great Norway Adventure," according to a press release sent to the Norsk Museum in Norway, Ill. O'Connor Casting Company is conducting a nationwide search for adventurous Americans with Norwegian ancestry (even a little bit counts) who are interested in auditioning. The series follows 12 Norwegian-Americans who are whisked off to Norway to compete in a series of extreme cultural challenges that test their skills, courage and determination. The winner receives a prize worth $50,000 and the opportunity to meet Norwegian relatives they don't even know exist. "We're looking for outgoing people who are truly curious about their Norwegian heritage and want to have an adventure of a lifetime," said David O'Connor, director of casting, O'Connor Casting Company. He adds, "Although season one features exciting and intense challenges like crossing the frozen tundra and eating a sheep's head, the most amazing part of the show is watching each cast member's life changing journey as they discover their ancestry." Season One winner, Doug Miner, from Seattle, said, "This was by far the coolest experience ever. Even though the money was a great incentive, we were all really competing to stay in the game another week because the challenges would take us to awesome new places where we'd meet really interesting people." Miner, who quit his job to participate after his boss, at the last minute, decided not to let him take time off, won $50,000. Miner adds, "The bigger prize was getting to meet my long lost relatives. It was so amazing that I'm taking my mom, dad and family members to meet them in Norway next year." There are more than 4.5 million Norwegian-Americans living in the United States and any of them can apply. Season two will feature new challenges. "The Great Norway Adventure 2," will air in Norway under the title "Alt for Norge" and potentially other countries as well. This series is produced by Monster Entertainment and was rated Norway's No. 1 reality TV show in 2010. To view clips of season one, do an Internet search for "Alt For Norge." To apply, e-mail Norway@oconnorcasting.tv or go to www.oconnorcasting.tv/castingboard to download the application and submission information. Deadline for applying is Monday, Jan. 10.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: torskov Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3319.2.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sandagerbakken/Sandakerbakken was a part of Sandaker farm. http://www.namiko.no/Sandakerbakken.htm http://www.namiko.no/sandaker.htm Sorry, it's all in Norwegian... Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: arakipederson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3319.2.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: SANDAGERBAKKEN Clark in Japan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jeremythemad Surnames: gulbrandsen mortensdr johanesdr Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3319.2.1.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you! Using that link, I found that Eline Marie Gulbrandsen was christened Eline Marie Johanesdr Gulbrandsen, and from that I found her parents -- Johanes Gulbrandsen and Karen Mortensdr. I can't quite make out the last word in her entry... Sandagubakken? Could this be like the Sandbakken farm? With all of your help, I've added another century of knowledge to my ancestors. =) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: torskov Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3319.2.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: With a little help from this site I found the marriage in Grønland parish: http://www.hammerum-herred.dk/viewpage.php?page_id=8 Source information: Oslo county, Grønland, Parish register (official) nr. 1 (1859-1861), Marriage records 1860, page 320. Entry # 124. Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=625&idx_id=625&uid=ny&idx_side=-312 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: thoraway Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3319.2.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: But Oslo research is not out of the realm of your own research. If you take that FamilySearch info for the 1860 marriage - see the entry for the Source Film Number. Look up that film number in the LDS Family History Library catalog online and it will tell you which church in Oslo the marriage was performed in. Bingo, then you know which Oslo church records to find the online images in and you'll probably have much more detail about that event. Or you could order that microfilm through any LDS Family History Center and research it on that format. Happy hunting! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jeremythemad Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3319.2.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have this data on the marriage: https://familysearch.org/s/recordDetails/show?uri=http://pilot.familysearch.org/records/trk:/fsrs/rr_658700674/p4&hash=HloWXpZgU9zB10k5M56iYku8TUc%3D -- indicating that they were married in Oslo, so that's out of the realm of this messageboard. Thanks for all your help! Your research was GREAT! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jeremythemad Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3319.2.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I've always taken canonical to mean "the final word" That is, the source which is accepted as authoritative. Mispellings are easy to understand, but I've just had a hard time wrapping my head around how the census taker could get that birth year so very, very wrong. I'm not saying it's out of the question in any way, just that it's surprising to me. You're absolutely right about Andreas' birth record -- it sure does look to be line 42 of http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070603680665.jpg . I wish I could read the flowery script better. I'll update my records to accept the new dates on Iver and Berthe -- thank you for your help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: thoraway Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3319.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Canonical? Define that. Only meaning I find given online is canonical = basic. Basically the 1865 census year of birth for Berthe Baardsdtr is just plain wrong and you are also about 12 years off about the year that Iver and Berte got married in Biri. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?ls=1&idx_id=9297 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jeremythemad Surnames: bjuge iversen gulbrandsen baardsdr Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oppland/3319.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yep, that's actually my site with more information and Andreas Iversen Bjuge and Eline Marie Gulbrandsen -- the confusing thing is that there appears to have been an Iver Engebretsen (Embretsen?) and Berte Baardsdr who got married in 1804, but were much older than the ones related to me. Berthe Baardsdr is listed as having a birthdate of 1804 in the 1865 census: http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&a=b&filnamn=f60218a Are the birthdates listed in the census pretty canonical? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.