Here is a good possible for your Martin in Gausdal where he was born according to the 1865 census about 1803. <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/individual_record.asp?recid=5002 21749904&lds=1&region=12&regionfriendly=Norway&frompage=99> Margit > > Seeking information on Martin Torgersen/Thorgersen and his wife Helene > Nilsd. > Skartlien. Martin was born about 1807 and Helene was born about 1810. I > believe they had about 10 children. The farm is in Torpa. According to a > story I have, the family farm was divided about 1830 into Skartlien South > and > Skartlien North, and my family descended from Skartlien South. > The family belonged to the Amot Kirke????? I would like to have dates on > both Martin and Helene - birth, baptism, marriage and death. If I am lucky > enough to get those then I will start asking about the children. > Their third son, Kristian, was my great grandfather and he emigrated to the > U.S. with his sister Marthe and brother Torger/Thorger in 1866 on the Anna > Delius. > Thank you for any help. > Mary Ann <cematapey@aol.com>

Hi Mary Ann, Here is your family in the 1865 census of Norway: <http://draug.rhd.isv.uit.no/ftsoek/ftsoek.asp?kommando=bosted&ftaar=1865&sp raak=engelsk_britisk&kommnr=0536&kretsnr=0004&bostnr=0055&leilnr=000> Here are four of the children: Vital Records Index - Norway 1. Christian MARTINSEN - Vital Records Index / NO Gender: M Birth/Christening: 04 Feb 1848 Nordre Land, Oppland, Norway <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/VR/individual_record.asp?recid=28364 806&lds=4&region=12&regionfriendly=Norway&frompage=99> 2. Maria MARTINSDATTER - Vital Records Index / NO Gender: F Birth/Christening: 27 Jul 1850 Nordre Land, Oppland, Norway <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/VR/individual_record.asp?recid=28365 795&lds=4&region=12&regionfriendly=Norway&frompage=99> 3. Ingeborg Maria MARTINSDATTER - Vital Records Index / NO Gender: F Birth/Christening: 14 Jun 1853 Nordre Land, Oppland, Norway <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/VR/individual_record.asp?recid=28366 968&lds=4&region=12&regionfriendly=Norway&frompage=99> 4. Helena Marthea MARTINSDATTER - Vital Records Index / NO Gender: F Birth/Christening: 02 Nov 1855 Nordre Land, Oppland, Norway <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/VR/individual_record.asp?recid=28368 069&lds=4&region=12&regionfriendly=Norway&frompage=99> These are from actual Church Records. Be sure to print them all out for your records. www.familysearch.org Margit > From: Cematapey@aol.com > Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 23:30:33 -0700 > To: NOR-OPPLAND-L-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: Skartlien Farm and family > > Seeking information on Martin Torgersen/Thorgersen and his wife Helene > Nilsd. > Skartlien. Martin was born about 1807 and Helene was born about 1810. I > believe they had about 10 children. The farm is in Torpa. According to a > story I have, the family farm was divided about 1830 into Skartlien South > and > Skartlien North, and my family descended from Skartlien South. > The family belonged to the Amot Kirke????? I would like to have dates on > both Martin and Helene - birth, baptism, marriage and death. If I am lucky > enough to get those then I will start asking about the children. > Their third son, Kristian, was my great grandfather and he emigrated to the > U.S. with his sister Marthe and brother Torger/Thorger in 1866 on the Anna > Delius. > Thank you for any help. > Mary Ann <cematapey@aol.com>

Received this offlist. Margit ---------- From: Cematapey@aol.com Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 23:30:33 -0700 To: NOR-OPPLAND-L-request@rootsweb.com Subject: Skartlien Farm and family Seeking information on Martin Torgersen/Thorgersen and his wife Helene Nilsd. Skartlien. Martin was born about 1807 and Helene was born about 1810. I believe they had about 10 children. The farm is in Torpa. According to a story I have, the family farm was divided about 1830 into Skartlien South and Skartlien North, and my family descended from Skartlien South. The family belonged to the Amot Kirke????? I would like to have dates on both Martin and Helene - birth, baptism, marriage and death. If I am lucky enough to get those then I will start asking about the children. Their third son, Kristian, was my great grandfather and he emigrated to the U.S. with his sister Marthe and brother Torger/Thorger in 1866 on the Anna Delius. Thank you for any help. Mary Ann <cematapey@aol.com>

(Mahnomen Pioneer) Services for Mrs. Ole Wermager, 80, were held Monday, March 30, at the First Lutheran church with Pastor J. M. Langemo officiating. Pallbearers were her sons, Odin,Clarence, Harry, Carl, Norman, Walter and Miles Wermager. Interment was in the church cemetery by the side of her husband. She lay in state at the Wagstrom Funeral Home at Twin Valley until time of serviees. Mrs. Wermager died suddenly Tuesday evening Mareh 24, at the Lutheran Memorial Home in Twin Valley., Death was caused from an internal hemmorhage. Tilla Gulbranson Dalen was born in Sondre Land, Norway, July 10, 1872. She was baptized August 11, 1872. Her father, Gulbran T. Dalen eame to America in the fall of 1883. Her mother, sister and she came in May, 1884, when she was 11 years of age. The family lived at Gratiot, Wis., the first year, then came to Norman county where they made their home. At the age of 14, on May 23, 1886, she was confirmed at St. Petri Lutheran church. In 1891 she was married to Ole Wermager at Ada, Minn., by Rev. Larson. To this union eleven children were born. The oldest daughter, Mrs. Henry (Olga) Hermanson of Greenbush, Minn., preeeded her in death Jan. 10, 1948. Also preeeding her in death were her parents, her husband, 7 brothers and sisters. Surviors are three daughters Mrs. Herman (Clara) Everson, Gary Mrs. Bennie (Gyda) Buchholz, Flom, and Mrs. Bennie (Ruth) Johnson, Beaulieu; 7 sons, Norman, Towner, ND and Walter, Grand Forks, ND; Harry, Waubun, Odin and Clarence, Twin Valley; Miles, Mahnomen; and Carl, Minneapolis. Also surviving are 55 grandchildren, 31 great-grandchildren and one great-great-grandchild. Mr. and Mrs. Wermager made their home in the Waukon community until 1927 when they both moved to Montana. After spending four vears there they moved back and settled in Mahnomen county and lived in and around Mahnomen for a number of years. When Mrs. Wermager eould no longer care for her sick husband alone they sold out and lived with their children for a few months until they moved to the Memorial Home at Twin Valley April 4, 1950. Mr. Wermager died May 8, 1950, and Mrs. Wermager continued to live at the Memorial Home. Obit Book 4 Page 47

Nils Dahl was born January 18, 1860 at Ostre Toten Norway, son of Ole and Kari Grytedalen. He was baptized and confirmed in his native Norway. In 1882 he emigrated to the United States and homesteaded in Section 32, Bear Park Township, Norman County, Minnesota. On December 8, 1891 he was united in marriage to Guri Hermandsen. To this union three children were born, namely Obert, Martin and Clara Beline. He died Friday morning, August 14, 1953 after a long illness. He was preceded in death by his daughter Clara Beline, who died at the age of 13 years and his wife Guri Dahl who died May 21, 1938. He was a member of the Ness Lutheran Congregation from its early beginning until the time of his death. Obit Book 4 Page 37

Funeral Services held at the Faaberg Church at Rindal, Norman County Minnesota on Tuesday November 11, 1952 for Peter Larsen, pioneer farmer of Bear PArk Township, who passed away at St. Anthony's Hospital in Mahnomen, Mahnomen County, Minnesota on November 7. He suffered a stroke on October 24 and had to be hospitalized since that time. Peter Larsen was born in Lillehammer Gulbrandsdalen Norway on June 8, 1879. His parents were Lars and Toneta Fliflet. In 1885 he came to this country with his parents, and brother and three sisters. They made their home with an older brother Christian Larsen for eight years until the family purchased a farm in Bear Park Township of Norman County Minnesota. He was confirmed in the Faaberg Church at Rindal in 1893 by Rev. Nels Lunde. He married Tillie Raaen and had one son Lawrence. If you wish the whole obit, contact me and reference Book 4, page 4. Margit

Translated from Gothic Norwegian Script from Olaf. :-)) >From all over Norway. Twin Valley City 1. Mayor Chas. Hanson was born in Ullensaker, Norway, in 1859. He came to America with his parents in '69 and lived with them in Ruthford, Fillmore Co., Minn. The year after they came here to Wild Rice. He was the first to open a store in Twin City, where he now operates a music business etc as well as being the City's Mayor. 2. John R. Veium was born in Saude parish, Telemark, Norway in 1867. He came to America in '81 and stopped first for a time at Mankato, Minn. The same year he went to Red Wing where he lived for 3 years. He then took a trip back to Norway to visit family and friends. After a year's passage he came again to America and then came here to Norman Co., where his brother was a priest. He lived here for 4 years, after which he went again to Norway. There he stayed for only 4 months, and then came back to America and lived a year in St. Paul. Later he moved to Twin Valley, where in '90 he began a general store together with L. Walhus. In 1893 he bought out Walhus and has since operated the business alone. 3. C. P. Waller was born in Solør, Norway in 1866 and came here to America with his parents in '71. He has now for several years operated a general store in Twin Valley with his brother Olaf along with John Homelvig. In the fall of '95 they opened a branch in Syre, a few miles from Twin Valley. He is married and has a child. 4. O. H. Aaker was born in Decorah, Iowa, in 1856 and lived there until '77, when he went to Flandreau N.D., where he took a homestead. There he lived until '85 when he came here to Norman Co. and began a general store in TwinValley together with his brother Hans Aaker. He is married and has 5 children, while one is dead. 5. Hans Burgess was born in Ringebu parish in Norway in 1854. he came here to America in '78 and settled in Black River Falls, Wis. He lived there until '86 when he moved here to Norman Co., Minn. He worked first for some years for Andrews and Hampton in Ada, later he moved to Twin City, where he is now the City's Postmaster. He also has a farm some miles east of the city. He has a wife and several children. 6. Halvor Hanson was born in Id parish at Fredrikstad in 1845. He came here to America in 1871 and settled at St. Paul and lived there until '81, when he came here to Norman Co., Minn., where he took 80 acres of land right by Twin Valley City, on which land a part of the City now lies. He is unmarried. 7. Laurits Sethney was born in Toten, Norway, in 1868 and came here to America in '86, after which he settled here in Norman Co., Minn. He was married a couple of years ago and now operates a furniture store together with his brother Hans. 8. Louis Peterson, wheat buyer, was born in Osola, Polk Co., Wis., in 1863. He came here to Twin Valley in '91, where he has bought wheat for an elevator company. He was married in '92 to a daughter of Peter Skjægrud. They have no children. 9. L.H. Aas, plasterer, was born in Hitterdal parish, Norway, in 1851. He came here to America in '73 and settled in Decorah, Iowa. He lived there until '81, when he moved to Ada, Minn., where he lived until '87, when he moved here to Twin Valley, where he works at the plastering trade. He married some years ago, but has no children. 10. Louis K. Wold, carpenter, was born in Hitteren parish, Norway, in 1866. He came here to America in '89. Since '94 he has lived in Twin Valley, where he works as a carpenter. 11. Jens Sethney was born in Vestre Toten, Norway, 1870. He came here to America in '87 and settled in Twin Valley where he first for a few years was a clerk with Aaker Brothers. Later he bought a furniture store from Jakob Sannan with his brother Laurits, which business they now operate under the name of Sethney Brothers. Jens Sethney works now as a clerk with Christ. Waller and Co. He was in '92 married to Petra Kallerud, daughter of Ole Kallerud of Home Lake, and they have one child. 12. Theodor Wold was born in Sibley Co., Minn., in 1872. He came here together with his parents to Norman Co. '80. He now operates a hotel, that he bought from his father a couple of years ago. He is the owner and manager of Columbia Hotel. 13. A.J. Lee was born in Næs parish, Hedmark, Norway, in 1854. He came here to America in '70, and settled in Decorah, Iowa, where he lived until '80. He then moved here to Norman Co., Minn., where he began to farm on the north side of Wild Rice River. But when the railroad came here and the City of Twin Valley was founded, he sold the farm and moved here. The first year he operated a restaurant, now for several years he has operated a hotel, since he is the owner of the Grand Hotel. He has a wife and several children. 14. O.H. Klemmetsrud was born inValders, Norway, in 1865. He came as a one year old child with his parents here to America in '66, that settled in Dane Co., Wis., where they lived until '81, when they moved here to Norman Co., Minn. He has now for several years operated a photography business in Twin Valley, at the same time he also has galleries in Ulen and Fertile. He is married to Anne Bakke, daughter of Anders Bakke of Home Lake. They have no children. 15. S.O. Hanson was born in Waupacca Co., Wis., in 1866, where he lived with his parents until '86, when he came here to Norman Co., Minn. He now operates a hardware store together with his brother A.O. Hanson. He is married and has 3 children,of which one is dead. 16. A.O. Hanson was born in Ringebo, Norway, in 1864 and came here with his parents the same year to Waupacca Co., Wis. Here he lived until '85, when he came here to Norman Co. He now operates a hardware store together with his brother S.D. Hanson, at the same time they sell farm machinery. He is married and has 2 children. 17. Sam Olson, painter, was born in Vestre Toten, Norway, in 1857. He came to America in '65 and settled in Dane Co., Wis. He lived there until '85, when he moved to Spring Grove, Minn., where he lived until '87. He moved after that to Fargo, N.D. and lived there for 2 years, after which he moved to Norman Co., Minn. He first took land in the Town of Flom, but after a few years, he sold the land and moved to Twin Valley, where he now works as a painter. He has a wife and several children. 18. John Fjældstad was born at Vestre Toten, Norway, in 1863. He emigrated from Norway in '85 and came to Duluth, Minn., where he lived for 3 years. He then went to Fargo, N.D., and lived there until '93, then he moved here to Norman Co. He was married in '93 to Clara Waller, daughter of Peder Waller of Home Lake. They have 2 children. He now lives in Twin Valley, where he works at various jobs. 19. John A. Jørgenson was born in Aalesund, Norway, in 1864. He came here to America in 1864 and settled in Norman Co., Minn. In '89 he began a saddlery, which he now operates. He has a wife and several children. 20. A.H. Froshaug was born in Trygstad parish, Norway, in 1870. He came here to Lake Park, Becker Co., Minn. together with his mother, since his father had come here before, in '80. They lived there until '83, when the family moved here to TwinValley. Here he now works with hardware and farm machinery together with Myran and Peterson of Ada, Minn., under the firm name Froshaug, Peterson and Myran. 21. Ole Erikson was born in Førde parish, Søndfjord, Norway, in 1844. He came to America in '71 and lived in Nicollet Co., Minn., until '74. He moved from there to Olmsted Co., Minn., and lived there until '84 after which he moved to Missoula Co., Montana, where he lived until '90. From there he went to Jocohama, Wash., where he lived until '93, after which he moved here to Twin Valley. He now runs a boarding house. He has a wife but no children. 22. M.E. Dalle was born in Fillmore Co., Minn., in 1871, where he lived with his parents until '75, when they moved to Le Roy, Minn., and lived there until '82, when they came here to Norman Co. 23. Alfred Anderson was born at Toten, Norway, in 1859. He came to America '81 and settled in Ruthford, Minn., where he lived until '84. He then came here to Twin Valley, where for several years has operated a drug store together with the City's postmaster. He is married and has several children. 24. J.H. Aamoth was born in Faaberg parish, Norway, in 1867. He came to America with his parents in '71 to Rock Prairie, Wis. Here to Norman Co., they came the next year '72. He lived at first for a few years on his father's first farm in Fossum, but after his first wife's death he moved to Twin Valley, where he now runs a Livery and Feed Stable. He was married again about 1½ years ago and has a child from his first wife and one with the last. 25. Peter L. Aune, shoemaker, was born in Tydalen at Trondheim, Norway, 1860. He came here to america to Eau Claire, Wis., in 1883. He lived there until '85, when he moved to Goodhue Co., Minn., where he lived until '86. He then moved here to Norman Co. and now operates a shoemaker business in Twin Valley. He is not married. 26. Ole Aasgaard was born in Hedemarken, Norway, 1860. He came to America in '69 with his parents, and they settled in Trempealeau Co., Wis. Here he lived at home with his parents until the year '78, when he went out into the world on his own. He went first to Madison , Wis., where he attended Monona Academy for a year. After that he went to Decorah, Iowa, the fall of '79, and began at Luther College, where he was for 2 years until '82. He then went home to Wisconsin but in the spring of '83, he set out west and came to Norman Co., Minn., and began to teach school west of Red River. He taught school now and then in the Town of Home Lake until '87. The 20th Nov. '87 he was married to Miss Britha Grinde of Past. Johnson. Since then he almost the whole time lived in Twin Valley. The first years he worked in the sale of machinery etc until '92, when he began to manage a lumber yard for Wilcox in Detroit, Minn. They have 3 children, one is dead. 27. G.C. Stebbins was born in Certland Co., New York, in 1857. He lived there until '76 when he went to Pope Co., Minn. where he lived until '90. He then moved to Windsor, N.D. where he lived for a year and then moved to Twin Valley, where he now lives. He buys wheat for an elevator company. He has a wife and several children. 28. Christ. Olson was born in Bergen, Norway, 1865. He came here to America in '89 and settled in Nicollet Co., Minn. He lived there until '93 when he came here to Twin Valley and settled as a watchmaker, in which trade he was educated in Norway. He has a wife and 2 children. 29. P.P. Berg was born in Sogn, Norway, in 1856 and came here to America in '82. He settled first in Moorhead, Minn., where he lived until '84, when he moved to Krageness, Minn., and lived there for a year. He then went to Albert Lea and lived there for 3 years in which time he ran a shoe store. He came here to Twin Valley in '88 and began a general store, which he still operates. He is unmarried. 30. Past. O. Strass was born in Strand parish at Stavanger, Norway, in 1862. He came to America in '81 and settled in Champaign Co. Ill., where he lived until '85. He then began to study at Augsburg Seminary, Minneapolis, Minn. from where he graduated in '83. He was thereupon employed as a professor with the United Churches Seminary in Minneapolis, which post he retained until the fall of '95, when he came here to Twin Valley as the priest for "Our Saviour's Parish" and annexed parishes. He is unmarried. 31. G.R. Ramsey was born in Minnesheik Co., Iowa, in 1863. He moved with his parents to Freeborn Co., Minn., in '68. Here he lived until he began school. First he was 1 year at Luther College, later he studied at Albert Lea Academy until he graduated from there in '92. He thenmoved here to Twin Valley where he now lives. He teaches at English and Norwegian School. He is married and has 2 children of which the one is dead. 32. Henry Waller was born in Goodhue Co., Minn., in 1871 and came with his parents that year to Norman Co. He now operates a smithy business in Twin Valley. 33. Christ, Lysaker was born in Hakedalen, Norway, in 1852. He came to America in '79 and settled in Mason City, Iowa, and lived there 1 year, after which he came here to Norman Co. and settled in Twin Valley where he works as a smith. He has a wife and several children. 34. J.P.B. Evans was born in Brecons, Wales, England, in 1862. He came here to America in 1871 and settled at Muskoda, Minn.. He lived there until '90, when he moved to Twin Valley, where he has operated a butcher shop. 35. S.H. Calkins was born in Rudolph, Wis., in 1872 and lived there until 1886. In the following 5 years he has lived in various places in northern Wisconsin and worked as a telegraphist. He came to Ada, Minn., where he stayed until the fall of '95, when he moved here to Twin Valley, where he manages the First National Bank. 36. August Durling was born in Skaane, Sweden, in 1863. He came here to America in '87 and settled in Ada, Minn. He lived here until '87, after which he lived in various places in Montana and Utah until '90. He then came back to Ada and lived there until '94, when he came here to Twin Valley. He buys wheat for a wheat company. He has a wife and one child. 37. L. Bjørnson was born in Sande, Telemarken, Norway, in 1869. He came here to America in '89 and settled in Twin Valley. He has worked the whole time as a clerk for John K. Weium except the last year when he had begun publishing the newspaper Twin Valley Times together with M.G. Todd. He is unmarried. 38. M.G. Todd was born in Columbia Co., Wis., in 1862 and lived there until '79, when he moved to Washington Co., where he lived for 3 years. From there he moved to Warren, Minn., where he lived until '89, when he went to Wyoming. He came back to Warren in the fall of '91 and lived there until the fall of '95, when he moved to TwinValley, where he was that year employed as a teacher. He now publishes the newspaper Twin Valley Times together with L. Bjørnson. He is married and has a child. 39. Ole Hatleberg was born in Lærdal parish, Sogn, Norway, the 20th Dec. 1843, He left Norway with his parents the following spring and came to Illinois, where he was for 2 years. He then moved to Dane Co. In the fall of '61 he volunteered for the war and enlisted in the15th Wisconsin Regiment. He was in the war until about the fall of '65, when he was discharged. Afterwards he came back to Wisconsin and was married in '68 to Anna Iverson. They left Wisconsin in '71 and went to Freeborn Co., Minn., where they lived for 7-8 years. His wife died there in '77. In '88 he married again and came in '90 to Twin Valley, where he now lives. They have no children. 40. Dr. A.H. Larson was born in Kristiansand, Norway, in 1848. He came to America in '92 and settled in Northfield, Minn. He lived here for only a half year, after which he moved to Twin Valley, where for the first year he served as a priest and since has practiced as a doctor. He has a wife and 4 children. 41. Andrew N. Anderson was born near Trondhjem in 1864. He came with his parents to America in 1869. They lived in Fillmore Co., Minn. for two years after which they moved to Norman Co. In '93 he married Anne Th. Urdahl; they have 2 children. 42. Edvard S. Grikson was born in Ullensaker, Norway, in 1851, and came to America in '70. He lived in Renville Co., Minn., a year and then moved to Red River and lived there for 2 years, after which he moved to Fergus Falls and lived there for 8 years. He then moved to Grafton, N.D. and lived there until '82 and then moved to Norman Co., Minn. He lived first for a few years on a farm a littel out from Twin Valley, but now lives in the City. He has a wife and several children.

I would like to welcome all those who have signed on for the Oppland Mail List. rosiewis@aztecfreenet.org joysundrum@attbi.com bonnie@psl.wisc.edu lstine@centurytel.net The archives for the Nor-Oppland list are located here: <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NOR-OPPLAND.html> Please post your family information and questions if you wish and tell us who you are interested in researching in the Oppland area of Norway. I am open to all suggestions or ideas for the betterment of the list. Contact me anytime. For those who are new to Norway research, there are also other lists available to join. You can find more information about them here: <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/> I hope you all have a peaceful Year. Margit

Here are 8 of them. Print them all out. Margit 70. Hans Anton MARTINSEN - Vital Records Index / NO Gender: M Birth/Christening: 13 Nov 1859 Sondre Land, Oppland, Norway <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/VR/individual_record.asp?recid=28376 703&lds=4&region=12&regionfriendly=Norway&frompage=99> 71. Bernt Magnus MARTINSEN - Vital Records Index / NO Gender: M Birth/Christening: 21 Nov 1861 Sondre Land, Oppland, Norway <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/VR/individual_record.asp?recid=28377 798&lds=4&region=12&regionfriendly=Norway&frompage=99> 72. Hanna MARTINSDATTER - Vital Records Index / NO Gender: F Birth/Christening: 27 Mar 1864 Sondre Land, Oppland, Norway <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/VR/individual_record.asp?recid=28378 851&lds=4&region=12&regionfriendly=Norway&frompage=99> 73. Caroline MARTINSDATTER - Vital Records Index / NO Gender: F Birth/Christening: 31 Jul 1866 Sondre Land, Oppland, Norway <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/VR/individual_record.asp?recid=28379 913&lds=4&region=12&regionfriendly=Norway&frompage=99> 74. Martin MARTINSEN - Vital Records Index / NO Gender: M Birth/Christening: 10 Nov 1869 Sondre Land, Oppland, Norway <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/VR/individual_record.asp?recid=28381 143&lds=4&region=12&regionfriendly=Norway&frompage=99> 75. Mina MARTINSDATTER - Vital Records Index / NO Gender: F Birth/Christening: 10 Jan 1872 Sondre Land, Oppland, Norway <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/VR/individual_record.asp?recid=28381 932&lds=4&region=12&regionfriendly=Norway&frompage=99> 76. Karl Johan MARTINSEN - Vital Records Index / NO Gender: M Birth/Christening: 30 Sep 1874 Sondre Land, Oppland, Norway <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/VR/individual_record.asp?recid=28383 282&lds=4&region=12&regionfriendly=Norway&frompage=99> 77. Martin MARTINSEN - Vital Records Index / NO Gender: M Birth/Christening: 24 Apr 1877 Sondre Land, Oppland, Norway <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/VR/individual_record.asp?recid=28384 350&lds=4&region=12&regionfriendly=Norway&frompage=99> From: "Karen A. Langel" <angelk@frontiernet.net> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 00:11:09 -0600 To: <NOR-OPPLAND-admin@rootsweb.com> Subject: HELP HELP HELP I am new at this so please bear with me! I am looking for information on my great great parents. My grandmother Hannah (Steen)Haraldsrud was born March 27, 1864 to Martin Hanvold Steen and Christina in Sondre Land Oppland fylke. There were 9 children in the family--Karolina Hanvold,Martin Steen,Carol Steen, Ole Steen,Mina Steen,H.A.M.,Mangus Steen(his wife and 5 kids perished when the Norge sank) another brother died as a child. Karen

Hello everyone! I was thrilled to find a rootsweb mailing list for Oppland, Norway. We are going to visit Norway in a few weeks and we hope to visit my great grandmother's homeland. Following is the data I have on my great grandmother and her ancestors: Julie Olsdatter (Moen) born 1 or 6 Jan 1864 Blakersmoen farm, Lom, Oppland, Norway Julie's father: Ola Hansen born 17 Nov 1820 Lom his parents: Hans Olsen born 1789 Beret Johannesdatter born 1799 Lom Julie's mother: Barbro Jonsdatter born 23 Jun 1829 Lom her parents: Jon Sevaldsen (son of Sevald Solfestsen) (and Live Olsdatter) Toro Olsdatter of Oukrust or Aukrust Julie's siblings: Berit 1848, Hans 1852, Live 1854, Toro 1856, Jon 1859, Toro 1860, Ola 1867, Synne 1870, and Ronnaug 1875. Most of the family changed their name to Moen when they immigrated. Julie married Olof (Oliver) Hallberg and lived in South Saint Paul, Minnesota Hans married Carrie Ingebretson, (possibly spelled with an E) lived in Kensington, Minnesota Toro married Ivar Aasen Knutsen and lived in North Saint Paul, Minnesota Synne married a "Mr. Oddin" Ronnaug remained single and lived in Minneapolis, Minnesota Any connections with these names? Please contact me! or if you have any suggestions of what we should not miss during our trip to Norway or travel hints, please drop an email! Sincerely, Renee Ponto Minnesota

I would like to welcome all those who have signed on for the Oppland Mail List. angelk@frontiernet.net trettonexplorer@prodigy.net petersongary@attbi.com allez@charter.net bmine@chartermi.net RBWJEP9798@aol.com The archives for the Nor-Oppland list are located here: <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NOR-OPPLAND.html> Please post your family information and questions if you wish and tell us who you are interested in researching in the Oppland area of Norway. I am open to all suggestions or ideas for the betterment of the list. Contact me anytime. For those who are new to Norway research, there are also other lists available to join. You can find more information about them here: <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/> I hope you all have a peaceful New Year. Margit

thank you Margit. I will start looking through those records you cited. your help is greatly appreciated! debbie >From: NOR-OPPLAND-D-request@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com >To: NOR-OPPLAND-D@rootsweb.com >Subject: NOR-OPPLAND-D Digest V03 #20 >Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 20:00:22 -0700 > ><< message2.txt >> ><< message4.txt >> _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

Hi Debbie, You can go here and check for his birth in Østre Toten, I do not find him. <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/search_igi.asp?batch_number=C421 747&region=12&batch_search=true> Make sure you pick Norway for Country and Oppland for Province. Do you have a copy of his obit?? What did his death record show? Have you checked any of the children's birth records to see what they show for his name and birth place? >From Oppland, they could have left from Kristinia/Oslo or Trondheim. I would assume Trondheim if they were living in Trondheim in the 1875 census. The family moved around a lot if you check the 1875 census and look at where the children were all born. Some in Østre Toten, some in Christiania and Stordalen and Trondheim. Looks like you need to find Augustinus' fathers name to get farther back. Yes, this looks like at least a second wife. Here is the Christening of Petra Amalie Augustinusdatter in 1867. It is extracted from Church records, so print it out. <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/individual_record.asp?recid=1000 24710830&lds=1&region=12&regionfriendly=Norway&frompage=99> Here is the christening of Karoline Palma Augusta Augustinusdatter. It is extracted from Church records, so print it out. <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/individual_record.asp?recid=1000 74064344&lds=1&region=12&regionfriendly=Norway&frompage=99> Here is the birth and christening of Audun Brunech Augustinussen Rodstad. It is extracted from Church Records, print it out. <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/VR/individual_record.asp?recid=28071 798&lds=4&region=12&regionfriendly=Norway&frompage=99> All the above are siblings of your Peder. Their records may give you help in your search. Klara is not listed, so more then likely she died. <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/individual_record.asp?recid=5002 21538829&lds=1&region=12&regionfriendly=Norway&frompage=99> Is what appears to be the christening of your Augustinus Casper Christiansen Fodstad in 1835. I will give you an alert on this, you need to research the records yourself also, as this was submitted by someone to LDS and they neglected to leave their name for a contact for you. This could be a good possible for the mother of your Augustinus. You will need to check the records. <http://draug.rhd.isv.uit.no/ftsoek/ftsoek.asp?kommando=bosted&ftaar=1865&sp raak=engelsk_britisk&kommnr=0528&kretsnr=0011&bostnr=0081&leilnr=000> Karine Kristiansdatter You must remember that records that old are only as good as the person who gave the information and the person who transcribed the original record of well over 100 years ago. :-)) I do not find him leaving Trondheim. Margit > > > Margit, > > thanks for the information on Fodstads in Ostre Toten. According to the > 1865 norway census Peter (peder)Nandrup Fodstad was born in 1861 in Toten. > If I am reading the census right, his father was Augustinus Fodstad born in > 1835 in Toten. His mother may have been Petra Fodstad*f Jakobsen, born in > 1840 in Stange. It looks like he had 2 sisters, Karoline Petrine Augusta, > born 1863 in Toten, and Klara Albertine born 1865 in Chritiania. > In the 1875 census for the munincipality of Trondheim, Mollenberg street, > Town quarter 21, It shows Augustinus Casper as the father, Anna Sophia as > the wife, Petter Nandrup, Karoline, Petra Amalie born 1867, Jens born 1874, > and maybe a son Christian born 1875. Is Anna a 2nd wife? did Klara die? > In the USA he was known as Peter N Fodstad. In the 1910 Minnesota census > he listed the year 1881 as his year of immigration. He was married to > Othelia Hammer, who also came here in 1881. However, they were listed as > being married 28 yrs in this census, which would have made the married in > 1882, after they came here. All 9 children were born here in Minneapolis. > how do I find which farm they lived at? How do I find their parish in > norway? also, where did people leave from to come to America?

Debbie, I'm not sure how I got your E-mail about Peter. I did check my Østre Toten map and found that the Fostad farm is less than a Km south of the Hof Church and about 2 1/2 Km east of Lena debbie langner wrote: > Margit, > > thanks for the information on Fodstads in Ostre Toten. According to the > 1865 norway census Peter (peder)Nandrup Fodstad was born in 1861 in Toten. > If I am reading the census right, his father was Augustinus Fodstad born in > 1835 in Toten. His mother may have been Petra Fodstad*f Jakobsen, born in > 1840 in Stange. It looks like he had 2 sisters, Karoline Petrine Augusta, > born 1863 in Toten, and Klara Albertine born 1865 in Chritiania. > In the 1875 census for the munincipality of Trondheim, Mollenberg street, > Town quarter 21, It shows Augustinus Casper as the father, Anna Sophia as > the wife, Petter Nandrup, Karoline, Petra Amalie born 1867, Jens born 1874, > and maybe a son Christian born 1875. Is Anna a 2nd wife? did Klara die? > In the USA he was known as Peter N Fodstad. In the 1910 Minnesota census > he listed the year 1881 as his year of immigration. He was married to > Othelia Hammer, who also came here in 1881. However, they were listed as > being married 28 yrs in this census, which would have made the married in > 1882, after they came here. All 9 children were born here in Minneapolis. > how do I find which farm they lived at? How do I find their parish in > norway? also, where did people leave from to come to America? > > thanks again, > > debbie > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > ==== NOR-OPPLAND Mailing List ==== > Make sure you check out the other lists available here for Norway: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Margit, thanks for the information on Fodstads in Ostre Toten. According to the 1865 norway census Peter (peder)Nandrup Fodstad was born in 1861 in Toten. If I am reading the census right, his father was Augustinus Fodstad born in 1835 in Toten. His mother may have been Petra Fodstad*f Jakobsen, born in 1840 in Stange. It looks like he had 2 sisters, Karoline Petrine Augusta, born 1863 in Toten, and Klara Albertine born 1865 in Chritiania. In the 1875 census for the munincipality of Trondheim, Mollenberg street, Town quarter 21, It shows Augustinus Casper as the father, Anna Sophia as the wife, Petter Nandrup, Karoline, Petra Amalie born 1867, Jens born 1874, and maybe a son Christian born 1875. Is Anna a 2nd wife? did Klara die? In the USA he was known as Peter N Fodstad. In the 1910 Minnesota census he listed the year 1881 as his year of immigration. He was married to Othelia Hammer, who also came here in 1881. However, they were listed as being married 28 yrs in this census, which would have made the married in 1882, after they came here. All 9 children were born here in Minneapolis. how do I find which farm they lived at? How do I find their parish in norway? also, where did people leave from to come to America? thanks again, debbie _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

<http://www.fellesraad.com/toten-home.htm> TOTEN LAG Founded July 10, 1910. If you or your ancestors are from the kommunes of Gjøvik, Vestre Toten or Østre Toten in Oppland, Norway or if the parishes of Aas (Aase), Balke, Biri, Eina, Hoff, Gjøvik, Hunn, Kapp, Kolbu, Nordli, Nykirke, Raufoss, Redalen, Segård, Totenvik, Vardal or Snertingdal, sound familiar to you, the Toten lag is the place for you. Please understand that there may be more than one of some of these place names in Norway and that each has several spellings, but welcome! Our genealogist can help you straighten out all these details once you are a member.

Hi Debbie, Do you have a birthdate for your Peter? What name did he go by here in the USA? Have you found him in any census here in the USA? What was the date of emigration stated if you have found him in a census record? Did he marry in Norway or America? Did he have any siblings? Children? There are 26 Fodstad Farms in the 1865 census of Norway: All in Oppland All in Østre Toten There are 13 Fosdstadhagen Farms in the 1865 census of Norway: All in Oppland All in Østre Toten There are 7 Fodstadkværnum Farms in the 1865 census of Norway: All in Oppland All in Østre Toten Margit > hello, > i am new to the list, and my interest lies in the Ostre Toten area of > Oppland. My GGGrandfather was Peter (Peder) Nandrup Fodstad. According to > the 1865 census I Believe his father was Augustinus Fodstad. How do I find > out a farm name, if there is one. I also would like to find out when and > where he left Norway from to come to the usa. I find him in the 1875 census, > and then not again until 1902, when he is in Minneapolis, MN. > > Thanks for any help anyone can provide, > > Debbie

hello, i am new to the list, and my interest lies in the Ostre Toten area of Oppland. My GGGrandfather was Peter (Peder) Nandrup Fodstad. According to the 1865 census I Believe his father was Augustinus Fodstad. How do I find out a farm name, if there is one. I also would like to find out when and where he left Norway from to come to the usa. I find him in the 1875 census, and then not again until 1902, when he is in Minneapolis, MN. Thanks for any help anyone can provide, Debbie >From: NOR-OPPLAND-D-request@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com >To: NOR-OPPLAND-D@rootsweb.com >Subject: NOR-OPPLAND-D Digest V03 #17 >Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 02:00:53 -0700 > ><< message2.txt >> ><< message4.txt >> ><< message6.txt >> ><< message8.txt >> ><< message10.txt >> ><< message12.txt >> ><< message14.txt >> ><< message16.txt >> ><< message18.txt >> _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

> Fra: Garth Ulrich [mailto:gulrich@sasktel.net] > Sendt: 4. mars 2003 06:03 > Til: NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Emne: [Oppland] Re: Ostre Toten Rustad > > > Toten doesn't yet have many bygdeboker with gaardshistorie. > Eina sokn of Kolbu prestegjeld does have one. There is also a > bygdebok for Totenvika, but I'm not sure what it consists of > Totenvika is a chapel in Balke prestegjeld. > > I have been struggling for months trying to figure out the > divisions of Toten. I find it very confusing as > prestegjeldene and kommuner have the same names, sokner were > transferred form one prestegjeld to another, sokner were made > into prestegjeldene, etc. The links database of DIS has this information of Østre (Eastern) Toten, and it's complicated, yes. If you need so, I can translate this one and the same for Vestre Toten. http://www.dis-norge.no/genress/index.php?todo=visKategori&kid=100176 Information about Østre Toten: Ved kgl. res.er 5.3.1825 og 10.6.1826 ble Toten prestegjeld delt i Østre Toten prestegjeld og Vestre Toten prestegjeld. Embetshandlinger før 10.6.1826 må derfor søkes i Toten prestegjeld. Østre Toten prestegjeld ble i 1826 satt sammen av Hof og Balke sokn. Samtidig ble det bestemt at den del av Balke sokn som ble kalt Toten- eller Nordre Feiring skulle legges til Feiring sokn i Hurdal prestegjeld. Res.en ble meddelt Kristiania biskop 1.7.1826. Ved kgl. res. 26.7.1844 ble gnr. 33-35 i Feiring overført fra Balke sokn i Østre Toten prestegjeld til Feiring sokn i Hurdal prestegjeld. Ved kgl. res. 22.5.1931 med virkning fra 1.7. s.å. ble Balke sokn utskilt fra Østre Toten prestegjeld og opprettet som Balke prestegjeld. > > > I finally have received an answer that sets me straight on > the prestegjeldene and sokner as they are fond in the Toten > of today. I haven't bothered much with the kommuner. > > By Østre Toten are your referring to the kommune or the > prestegjeld? It might also be helpful to try and find if > Rustad is still a part of Østre Toten today-there were so > many re-alignments ad re-namings that it could easily now be > a part of something else. > > I have been told that the next Toten bygdebok to come out > will be for Raufoss. This is what I found for bygdebooks Toten, there are five of them: http://www.lokalhistorie.no/baser/sted.asp Totens bygdebok. - Utg. en komité/Totens museum. 1937- B.1: / Red. Sigurd Røse. - 1952. 646 s. - Kategori: Bygdehistorie B.2: / Red. O. Gjørwad. - 1937. 636 s. - 2. Utg. 1953.638 s.. - Kategori: Bygdehistorie B.3: Red : av en komité. - 1968. 710 s. - Kategori: Bygdehistorie B.4: Svein-Erik Ødegaard: Totenvika : Folk og liv i hus, gard og grend. - 1984. 533 s. - Kategori: Gards- og slektshistorie Svein-Erik Ødegaard ,Hilde M. Larsen Austarheim og Bjørn Bækkelund: Totens bygdebok : B. 5: Eina. Folk og liv i hus, gard og grend. - Utg. Stiftelsen Toten økomuseum og historielag. 1998. 580 s. - ISBN 82-90557-04-3. - Henv: Toten økomuseum, boks 13, 2858 Kapp. K torleifH Hamar, Norway > Regards, > Garth > > Margit wrote: > > > Hi, > > Are there any books for Ostre Toten? I am interested in an > Iver Larsen > > f.1844 who is living on the farm in 1865 and if it says > anything about > > him. I find him here in 1865: > > > <http://draug.rhd.isv.uit.no/ftsoek/ftsoek.asp> ?kommando=bosted&ftaar=1 > > 865&sp > > > raak=engelsk_britisk&kommnr=0528&kretsnr=0006&bostnr=0064&leilnr=000> > > Census year: 1865 > > Municipality: Østre Toten > > Municipality number: 0528 > > Name of domicile: Rustad nedre med Igelsrud væstre > > > > Thanks, > > Margit > > > ==== NOR-OPPLAND Mailing List ==== > Make sure you check out the other lists available here for > Norway: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=> 571&sourceid=1237 >

Would writing to the Toten Museum answer questions? This is their address: Toten Museum, Postboks 10, 2858 Kapp, Norway. I know Arne Amundgård used to be good at answering questions there, a few years ago. Betty Rockswold Garth Ulrich wrote: > > Toten doesn't yet have many bygdeboker with gaardshistorie. Eina sokn of Kolbu prestegjeld does have one. There > is also a bygdebok for Totenvika, but I'm not sure what it consists of Totenvika is a chapel in Balke > prestegjeld. > > I have been struggling for months trying to figure out the divisions of Toten. I find it very confusing as > prestegjeldene and kommuner have the same names, sokner were transferred form one prestegjeld to another, sokner > were made into prestegjeldene, etc. > > I finally have received an answer that sets me straight on the prestegjeldene and sokner as they are fond in the > Toten of today. I haven't bothered much with the kommuner. > > By Østre Toten are your referring to the kommune or the prestegjeld? It might also be helpful to try and find if > Rustad is still a part of Østre Toten today-there were so many re-alignments ad re-namings that it could easily > now be a part of something else. > > I have been told that the next Toten bygdebok to come out will be for Raufoss. > > Regards, > Garth > > Margit wrote: > > > Hi, > > Are there any books for Ostre Toten? I am interested in an Iver Larsen > > f.1844 who is living on the farm in 1865 and if it says anything about him. > > I find him here in 1865: > > <http://draug.rhd.isv.uit.no/ftsoek/ftsoek.asp?kommando=bosted&ftaar=1865&sp > > raak=engelsk_britisk&kommnr=0528&kretsnr=0006&bostnr=0064&leilnr=000> > > Census year: 1865 > > Municipality: Østre Toten > > Municipality number: 0528 > > Name of domicile: Rustad nedre med Igelsrud væstre > > > > Thanks, > > Margit > > ==== NOR-OPPLAND Mailing List ==== > Make sure you check out the other lists available here for Norway: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237