TO THE SETER . It was about this time of year that formerly a Norwegian farm would send their livestock to a 'seter' A 'seter' is a summer pasture, usually in the mountains where the farm's livestock would be pastured in the summer. In some places it was called a 'støl' Practices varied in different communities. The law obliged farmers to have a seter. Each farm had its own although some might share one. The few animals a cotter might have were also usually permitted on the main farm's seter. When the livestock was turned out of their byres, usually in May, they would graze on the farm's infield pastures. These were not very big and when the grass was grazed to the roots, the cattle had to be moved. This would permit the infields to recover and grow the fodder for the cattle in the fall. The setting off for the seter was quite an event as in this account from Malvik: 'The trip to the seter took place at night. The left home with the livestock and supplies at 8 o'clock at night and herded the animals along the road. Then we drove the animals through the woods to the seter, but the wagon had to follow roads as far as possible. The seter time lasted from the middle of June until the beginning of September." Another account: "Then we neared the big day! There was a lot of activity. First we hayed at the seter and stored the hay in a hay barn. On the day itself, down to the barn to milk and clean out. Then out with the pack saddles and baskets. The women brought out all that was needed of dishes, equipment and food and that was packed carefully in the baskets. The horses were then harnessed and the baskets carefully placed and properly secured. Both the horse and the older cattle knew the way, so they didn't have to be guided. The seter girl had already gone up and cleaned the cottage and sheds. And put on the coffee pot! The horse came first and was unloaded. The cattle came slowly next and were turned out to graze. The seter girl then invited everybody for coffee and food - the first time at the seter. Then all the supplies, dishes and kettles were set in place. The cow stalls were set up as well as the sheepfolds. Then came evening and the cattle came in as at home - the old ones knew their stalls from the previous year. Then life took its usual course, she milked every morning and evening, herded all day and made cheese when necessary and kept the cottage clean and tidy. Every Saturday and Sunday and the last 3-4 days of her seter months, she got herders from home. So they days went - sunny days and rainy days. It was a heavenly to herd the animals on a clear sunny day, but when days came with wind and rain and yes, sometimes sleet, then it was something else. It could happen that they would trudge all day, soaked to the skin - then it was not so great. It was impossible at the seter to dry clothes in one night, the morning after one had to put on the just as wet and cold clothes - Huff! Some old women tell that they went barefoot until the first snow skiffs came in the fall. They warmed their feet when a cow urinated. It the hottest time of summer when the horseflies came, the cows were allowed to stay in during the day and turned out about 4 in the afternoon. We called it night herding. About midnight they would lie down - cows and sheep - and rested until about 3 o'clock. They grazed peacefully and then run home about 8-9 in the morning to escape the horseflies. When it was time to return home, there was great activity again. The men came with the pack horses and most of the night was spent loading the horses. When all was finished the horses set off as surely as ever, followed by the men. Then came the seter girl and closely behind her the cattle and then the sheep. Finally came the herd boys - they shouted and blow their 'lurs' as they neared home. The cattle were let in when they got home. The house was scrubbed and decorated like a bride. The floor was strewn with fine-cut juniper branches. The coffee pot stood ready, as finely polished as an officer. The table was decked with the best foods the house could offer. Everyone sat to the table and had an excellent meal after all the work. Afterwards, those who were home went to the barn to milk the cows - the seter girl was free now."

Hi Christine! Here's one picture: http://www.flyen.no/flyen/stavkirke.html If you go to google and enter 'stavkirke ringebu' you'll get quite a few hits showing many pictures of the exterior and interior. Most of it seems to be in Norwegian but I'm sure you'll get the drift. Olaf > I would love to see a picture of the Ringebu Stave Church. My grandmother > left Ringebu in 1910. Her name was Ragna Edvardsdtr. Nesset (born at > Aspelund farm in 1894). She married Chris M. Hagen > (Alfsonhaugen/Langsethagen) in Black River Falls, Wisconsin.

Hi - Thank you. I know they emigrated between 1866 and 1870. Mary Ann

Hi Mary Ann! I find your Kristen Olsen and Elen Sivertsdatter on Storøen in 1865 with two daughters, Marie and Hanna. The latter was born in 1862, so they must have just moved there. And Ole Sivertsen and his family at Kvalstad. From the birthdates of Ole's children, they must have moved at the same time. I can't answer if the they went back to Land, but they don't appear in the 1875 census anywhere in Nord Trøndelag. The usual port of emigration from there was Trondheim. Do you know what year they emigrated?. Olaf In the 1865 Norwegian census Christian and family; and, Ole Severson and family are in Overhalla. I would like to know when they emigrated and from where? Did they possibly return to Land?

I'm living in Hamar by the lake Mjøsa and grew up in Ringebu in Gudbrandsdalen. I have many digital pictures of the area, and might take more of them. Any special interests? I have Ringebu stave church, a panorama of Mjøsa etc. I can put them on my web www.tha.no Torleif Haugødegård > -----Opprinnelig melding----- > Fra: Dotspet@aol.com [mailto:Dotspet@aol.com] > Sendt: 20. juni 2003 03:14 > Til: NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Emne: Re: [Oppland] Margit's Trip to Norway #2 > > > Your trip sounds so lovely....I hope to someday see the > Gudbrandsdal valley > and Lake Mjosa where my husband's family came from, too. > Your descriptions > made me want to plan a trip soon! Thanks for sharing......Dot > > > ==== NOR-OPPLAND Mailing List ==== > Make sure you check out the other lists available here for > Norway: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=> 571&sourceid=1237 > >

> From: Cematapey@aol.com > Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 02:04:15 EDT > To: margit@eot.com > Subject: Syversdatter > > Seeking information on Eli(Ellen) Syversdatter. She was born Nov., 9, 1834, > in Engeset, Lands Praesteg., Norway. Her parents were Syver Sorensen and Guri > Nielsdatter. She had one known brother, Ole Syverson born May 3, 1837 in > Lands Praesteg., Norway. > Ellen married Christian Olson on May 28, 1855 in Torpa, Norway. Christian > was born October 29, 1827 in Lands, Praesteg., Norway. > In the 1865 Norwegian census Christian and family; and, Ole Severson and > family are in Overhalla. I would like to know when they emigrated and from > where? > Did they possibly return to Land? > I would also, like to find birth and death dates for Syver Sorensen and Guri > Nielsdatter. > I would appreciate any suggestions and help. > > Thank you - Mary Ann <cematapey@aol.com>

Your trip sounds so lovely....I hope to someday see the Gudbrandsdal valley and Lake Mjosa where my husband's family came from, too. Your descriptions made me want to plan a trip soon! Thanks for sharing......Dot

I would like to welcome all those who have signed on for the Oppland Mail List and all those who are returning. wyoung4718@wideopenwest.com trtaylor@webtv.net Remgen@aol.com daves1928@mchsi.com Please post your family information and questions if you wish and tell us who you are interested in researching in the Oppland area of Norway. I am open to all suggestions or ideas for the betterment of the list. Contact me anytime. The archives for the Nor-Oppland list are located here: <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NOR-OPPLAND.html> For those who are new to Norway research, there are also other lists available to join. You can find more information about them here: <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/> Visit site http://www.fellesraad.com/ Join a Lag today! I hope you all have a wonderful summer! Margit

Hei all, Last night I received umpteen returned emails that some spammer had sent out and put my email address in the Reply To: area or whatever they do to make a person's life miserable. Had to change it immediately: margit@eot.com I cannot access any email from mbakke@eot.com anymore. :-)) Margit

I am back working in my Cemetery again :-)) Does anyone connect with this family from Hankinson/Blaisdell, North Dakota? If so, contact me. Margit Lot 65B-2 MAHLUM, AMUND PEDERSEN 3/24/1848 1930 BORN TO: Peder Knutsen & Sicil Pedersdatter Aspehaug in Oier, Oppland, Norway MARRIED TO: Sigrid Amundsdatter on July 20, 1873 in Norway Lived with Iver Skansgaard BROTHER TO: Anne Pedersdatter (Aspehaug) Skansgaard Mahlum Family Amund Pederson (Mahlum) was born March 24, 1848 in Øyer, Norway. Aspehaug was the original name of his birthplace. Aspehaug was tenant's place belonging to the farm, Rindalseje ("eje" means "belonging to"). To this day, the farm is named "Oshhaug" situated to the south of Rindal. Amund Pederson (changed to Mahlum) had three brothers and three sisters. Some of them settled in Østerdahlen Valley. Their descendants still use the family name - Aspehaug. Amund's brother, Knut Pederson (changed his name to Hasli) bought the Aspehaug farm. One of his sons, Amund Hasli had two children, Anna Marie (Gillebo) and Knut Hasli. Knut is still living on his father's farm at Øyer. Note: Since this was written, Knut Hasli has died. (Dec 25, 1993) Ed and I visited both Anna and Knut in July, 1984. Had a very interesting visit but much too short a time. Anna Gillebo told us about her cousins in North Dakota. Mrs. Julian (Ardys) Harstad lives at Cummings, North Dakota and Ingvald Skansgaard at Twin Valley, Minnesota. There are many descendants living throughout the west. Hope we get to meet them sometime in the future. Amund Pederson (Mahlum) came to Mahlumsveen to work as a tenent in the 1860's. The Mahlum family who owned Mahlumsveen were originally from Øyer, and were friends of Amund. Their descendants still own and live on this farm. It's considered a very large farm in Norway. It would be between 20 and 40 acres in the U.S. and not considered a large farm here. They used modern farm equipment and still have tenants to help with the farm work. Amund and Emj¿r ¯stensen were also tenants at Mahlumsveen in the 1860's. They had a young daughter, Sigrid, who married Amund Pederson (Mahlum) on July 20, 1873 at the age of 23. They were married in the Stave Kirke in Ringbu, Norway. We were in Ringbu on a Sunday which was a special day commemorating St. Olaf. We attended the service on Sunday night and there was also a Baptism Service, all in Norwegian. The songs were familiar so we were able to join in the singing and also follow the service. Amund and Sigrid had nine children in the family, eight of them were born in Norway. A son, Bert, was born in America. Son, Peder Anton, their oldest child, worked with them at Mahlumsveen. A daughter, Sina, was a baby-sitter for the Mahlum family. No doubt, the younger children, Martha, Anna, and Kristian also had to help with the work. Peder was baptized and confirmed by his grandfather, Peder Knudsen Rindalseje, who was a Lay Minister. He was a very tall man. Mahlumsveen is located on a hillside overlooking the beautiful, green and fertile valley, Gudbrandsdahlen, and the quaint town of Ringbu. The view was breathtaking, and we wondered why anyone would leave and immigrate to America. We were told, as tenants there was absolutely no future, and they were hungry people. Many Norwegians left Norway at this very time for this very reason. All of Sigrid's family - parents, four sisters and a brother eventually immigrated to America. I don't know if any of Amund's brothers or sisters came but several of the their children came to America. Amund and Sigrid decided to immigrate to America. With a prayer in their hearts, with much hope and determination to have a better life for their children, they left their homeland, Norway, in 1888 and sailed for America, "The Land of the Free". After weeks on the ocean they finally reached Ellis Island. It must have been frightening for them, not being able to speak or understand the English language in a new country. I understand the immigrants who arrived in New York were the victims of many tricks, jokes and even thievery. But in spite of all this, it was exciting and they never lost sight of their hopes for liberty, freedom and the pursuit of happiness in this new country which was to be their home. It would be interesting to know of their experiences on the trip from New York to Belgrade, Minnesota, where they settled on a farm. They must have had several more days of anxiety before they arrived in Belgrade. Peder was 15 years; Sina, 13 years; Martha, 11 years; Anna, 8 years; Kristian (Chris), 5 years; Ole, 3 years (no record) but it could be possible he changed his name to Oscar; Karen, 1 year (no further record); and Anton, 1 year. A son, Bert, was born in America October 1, 1894. Amund and Sigrid left Belgrade in the late 1890's and moved to a farm near their son, Peder, who had homesteaded near Hankinson, North Dakota. From there, they moved to Blaisdell, North Dakota. Sigrid moved to an "Old People's Home" near there in the 1920's, where she lived until her death December 19, 1936. Amund became a "Happy Wanderer" visiting his children until his death in 1930. He was buried at the Aspelund Lutheran Church cemetery in Flom, Minnesota. Sigrid may also be buried there. We shall always have a very deep feeling of respect, love and honor for these immigrants who were so brave and had so much courage to begin a new life in America. Written by Ethel Hovey Pederson Granddaughter of Amund and Sigrid Pederson

We arrived back in Trondheim on Monday, May 26 about 11:45 from Sweden. Yes, we did arrive back in Trondheim. Seemed like we were back home again. First thing we did was get something to eat at the cafe at the Central Station. Then Sonja talked me into walking to the Jarlen in Trondheim. All I can say is that it was a long long walk with all the luggage and I will not do it again, Sonja ever!! We got to the Jarlen and were hoping to meet up with Kris right away. Our room would not be ready till 3 PM so we left our luggage and started walking the city. We came back about 3 and met up with Kris. It was lots of fun to see her again. She sounded like she had some interesting experiences all over Norway. Sonja decided she wanted something American to eat that evening, so we asked the desk clerk about Pizza. He said Napoli's had the best Italian Pizza and Peppe's had those big American Pizza's. We decided on Peppe's and beer for supper. We also had gone to a grocery store and bought some stuff for breakfast. Kris boiled potatoes for frying in the morning. We also got eggs and ham. Had a good old fashioned American breakfast with lots of coffee left by whoever had the room before us. At a little before 9, Birger Moksnes came and picked us up for our adventure of the day. (Birger is a 4th cousin to the hubby, Lyle). It also was Kris' birthday!! We looked at each day as an adventure and relished all of it. He took us to the Værnes Church. It was very beautiful and scenic. We especially enjoyed the stories that the people in Norway told us while visiting special places. After the Church, we motored up to the Skulbørstad Farm to visit where Sonja's gggrandmother came from. It was a very beautiful spot. Birger had been there earlier this year to see if we could visit when we came, not knowing he was related also to the people who still lived on the farm. Olaug Skulbørstad invited us in. Soon came her brother in law Olaf and his wife Sigrid. A short time later came Tor Skulbørstad, son to Olaug. What an enjoyable visit we had. We also sang "Happy Birthday" to Kris. When we left Skulbørstad, we went downtown to the local Newspaper and met Martin Haugen, yet another relative of Sonja's, Tor's and Birger's. A picture was taken and information exchanged. Then Birger took us to Lerfald in Hegra to see the rock carvings. It was very beautiful and the rain fell on and off with the sun also shining. On the way to Birger's home for supper, we drove by Romo, another farm that Sonja's ancestor's came from. We had a good visit with Birger, his wife Kjellaug and their son Martin. Also a great meal was served. (Like to die for!!) The Food of Norway I will miss. After awhile, we went off to Torunn Bakke's for dessert and a visit. She lives in Hell, Norway with her four children. When we got to her home, Thor Erik Johansen was there also (He is on the Trondelag list also). It was so much fun to visit the people and their families that we only speak with online. Makes life and the world come much more alive. One of my most special remembrances of the whole trip will be all the Trondelag and Norway list members who were so kind to us all while in Norway. You gave me faith again in our fellow men and women across the world. After our dessert at Torunn's and a long visit and pictures, Birger took us back to Trondheim, this was an experience in itself, it was still daylight. Something I will never get use to at 11 pm or 23:00 at night. We thank you Birger for the time you took to show us Norway as you know it in Stjordal area of Norway. It was like Endre took the time with his daughter Monica to show us Roros and all the area in between. The next morning, we got up early to go to Nidaros Church. We saw they had tours every hour. Well, when we got there, yes they give them every hour, but the English Tour (for us American's) was given at 1 pm. So, we bought our tickets and walked around for a few hours, had great coffee and pastry at a really good restaurant that I do not remember the name of, but it was just behing the Royal Palace or Home in Trondheim for the Royal Family. We dallied along and took lots of pictures of the cemeteries and the Nidaros Church. The tour was great, the lady giving it was doing her first English Translation tour of the Church, and she did a very good job of it. There are no words to describe the Nidaros Church, you just have to see it all, to understand it. It has been there like forever in Trondheim. I know that my relatives were there also and attended Church there, as I know where they lived at that time in Trondheim and what they did 200 years ago. They did not allow pictures or videotaping, so don't even ask. I guess that is something we all need to respect as Sonja and I did all over Norway. When we left Nidaros, we went down to take the tour to Muncholmen Island, (I may have it spelled wrong). When we got there, we had just missed the 2 pm /14:00 trip, so we sat, and I ate again as usual. Kris decided she did not wish to go on the trip, so Sonja and I waited till about 2:45 and boarded the boat for the trip. It was a trip that we both very much enjoyed. I videotaped it all for the hubby. When we got to the island, we got off and videotaped some more. Then of course, it was time to eat. I ordered a beer, and Sonja had a Coke and what she thought was Carrot Cake with Creamed Cheese frosting, not so. It was a butter frosting. I guess you could say it was like when I ordered what I thought was a apple turnover the next day on the train............it was spinach. A rude awakening, and I ate it all. :-)) We went back to our hotel after some shopping with Kris at some shops. She was going on the over night train to Oslo, we decided to stay in Trondheim and get a good nights rest. The next morning, we ordered a taxi, as there was "no way in hell" I was going to haul all my luggage back to the Central Station. When we got to the station, we hauled all our luggage down the ramps for about the 3rd time, THEN we noticed they had elevators. ;-) The trip to Oslo was great, I sat in the smoking car, which was right behind the engine part of the time while on the train and videotaped. Was a lucky choice, as I videotaped a moose (in America) running along side the train. Then all of a sudden, there was a bunch of noise and the purser came over the loudspeakers and told us that the train had hit a moose. Yup, I got it all on tape. The rest of the trip was uneventful, except for the beautiful scenery of Norway and the Gudbrandsdal Valley and Lake Mjosa. It is something that no one can describe and one has to view for themselves. When we got into Oslo, we took a taxi to what we thought was our destination. Much money and time later, we finally got to our destination. :-) That evening, we met with Gunhild and Egil Øyangen again and had a great visit. Kris was off to visit her relative from Ostfold. After our visit with Gunhild and Egil, we decided we had not videotaped the Palace and Oslo, so we went on down the hill and did some videotaping again for the hubby (after all, he paid for our trip) :-). The next morning, we were all up early and ready to head for the airport. We got on the train and ended up in 1st class. The purser said that was fine as long as we got off at the airport. Needless to say, the trip ended up too soon, and we shall miss all the people who took the time to meet us while we were in Norway. We enjoyed the welcome in Oslo to the departure in Oslo and all in between. You are all very special people. Thank you very much all of Norway for your hospitality, we will be back one day, and if those we have met along the way wish to come to America, we will welcome them with our hearts to our homes as they have welcomed us to their homes and hearts in Norway from all area's. Mange takk............ Margit & Sonja

> southern Sweden to visit more relatives who have roots in Norway and because > of economic conditions, moved to Sweden in the 1940's. > To be continued............. When we were dropped off at the Central Station in Trondheim for our adventure to Sweden, we wondered what kind of accomodations we would have for the overnight trip from Storlien to Gotteborg. We got on the train at 16:17 and traveled to Storlien. There it was raining and cold. We jumped on the train that looked like it was going the right way and tried to find our sleeping car. Being the American I am and not much knowledge about the language, I thought I best ask some questions of the purser. I showed him our tickets and asked if we were on the right train, he proceeded to say, "That train left 10 minutes ago......." Then all started laughing in the Bar car that were observing our conversation. I went back to let Sonja know that indeed we were headed in the right direction. We found our 3 person sleeper room and decided to check out everything as this was a new experience for both of us. We videotaped the room and then took the key for the Shower room and videotaped that also (for the hubby). I decided that it was time for a cool one, so went down to the Bar Car and found a Heineken. When I got back, Sonja was outside our room with a roll of duct tape she had brought with, taping up a door that the latch did not work on. It was banging and making much noise. We decided we needed to videotape that also. :-)) Later that evening a Swedish lady named Marit joined us in our car, she was very helpful as to what the purser was saying as he never repeated it in English like they did in Norway. We had a restful night and arrived in Gotteborg about 8:30 the next day. We were picked up by Ann Viking Saetre and Britt-Marie Blixt. We were taken on a tour of the city and then off to Taberg, about 2 hours north and east. We of course had to eat right away a big meal which was really good. That evening we had a tour of Taberg and Johnkoping areas. The next day we were off to Varnamo area. We visited with relatives and had a great meal and visit on a private estate and a tour of the grounds. On Saturday we were treated to a Swedish Smorgasboard of food that did not end. :-)) Eat......eat..........eat! Sunday we awoke to more food, then a trip to Varnamo and a tour of the city and the park. It was very interesting for us. Later that day, we left for Johnkoping, for the train station. We caught the overnight train for our trip back to Norway. This time our accomodations were in a 6 person sleeper. The purser came to check our tickets and told us we would be the only ones in the sleeper that evening. This sleeper was much different then the last one we had slept in. It was straight out of the 1950's. No shower on this trip! We made a video about the train trip for the hubby. :-)) We arrived back in Trondheim on Monday, May 26 about 11:45. To be continued............ Margit & Sonja

I am resuming lookups on Obituaries for Norman County Minnesota and area. The indexes are here: <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~maggiebakke/normanobituarybooks.ht ml> Make sure you put Obituary lookup in the subject line as I have a filtering system and it may get deleted. :-)) Margit

Hei all, We had a great trip to Norway. Sonja and I spent the first 3 days with Kris in Oslo. Had fun visiting with Egil and Gunhild in Oslo. (I also got a terrible red rash and was sick the first couple of days :-)) We also had an evening meal with Anne Hildrum. Anne was very helpful in helping me with train reservations and schedules in Norway. (Here on the farm we call it supper, but we were told in Norway that supper is like garbage, at many places we went to :-)) On Sunday the three of us took the train to Flåm, Norway. The scenery was beautiful. We went from Spring in Oslo to Winter in Myrdal and back to Spring again in Flåm. On Monday, we went our separate ways. Sonja and I went north to Øyer and Lillehammer area to visit with the hubby's relatives. It rained most of the time, but we had lots of fun anyway. First stop was the Ringsaker Church where a cousin of Lyle's is the minister. We had a wonderful meal about 11 am, then we got a great tour of the Church from top to bottom. About 3 pm we got served another great meal. Then off to Øyer to visit some more relatives. We also viewed the Hasli and Aspehaug Farms where Sonja's gggrandmother grew up and lived. We stayed with relatives there overnight and had another huge meal at 7 pm. We also spent time in the barn with the new lambs that were just born. In the morning we were served a great breakfast and went off to Lillehammer to catch the train to Hell. Our first trip there. Terje Erik Garberg picked us up there and took us to Tydal, where some of my family came from. We stayed with Johanna Marie Østby and were served more food. :-)) In the morning, we were treated to a tour of the Tydal area and some of the farms that my family came from. We also had a tour of the Tydal Museum. Later that day, we were picked up by Terje Erik and taken to his house in Selbu. There we met Marlyn and Shirley from the Trondelag list. We had a great couple of days in Selbu. We should have had our picture in the Selbu newspaper, if Brynjar had film in his camera?? Terje Erik took us on a tour of the Selbu Church. Per Magne from the Tommerdalen's took us on a tour of the Museum and also where the sweaters and knitted stuff is made in Selbu. We were treated to lunch at his house and a musical program by Brynjar Dahlo (Also a member of the Tommerdalen's) on his accordian. From Selbu, a cousin picked us up and took us to Roros for the weekend. We got a tour of the NEA radio station from Tore Ostby. We also visited his wife and family in their home. On the 17th of May, we watched the program in Roros and taped it all. We also marched in the parade and waved Norwegian flags. Then we met with more family and went for a Buffet at a local place. All the great foods of the area were offered and I think I tried most of them. On Sunday we headed towards Aalen and Haltdalen. Was a beautiful trip and I taped it all. We stopped at the Storli Farm and visited with Wenche Tamlagsronning and her daughter. It was beautiful to see, I had read about the place for years and the view was out of this world. The monument honoring Jonas Lie was also something to see at the farm. From there we went to Nordpa at Aunegrenda and had a reindeer dinner. Was really exciting for me. I was in home territory. I could view what I had only envisioned all these years in my office here in Flom. :-)) This trip was for my father, he came from the Roros, Aalen, Haltdalen and Tydal areas of Norway. He always wanted to know where he came from, I just wish he would have been here to go with me on the trip. We met lots of family and had dessert at the Nysetvoll (Nysetvold) Farm with Sigurd and Bjorg Nysetvoll and their daughter Marit and other extended family members. It was something special to see the writing desk that my gggrandfather sat at and wrote, also his chest with his name on and his clock. Made everything come alive for me. Everyone was so nice and great to visit with, even if we did not understand all they said. Someone was always willing to translate. On the way back to Roros, we stopped in Haltdalen at the Church. Got to see my tip tip's gravesite and his marker. A gggrandaughter bought a permanent marker and put on his grave instead of the old iron crosses they use to use. On Monday morning, Endre Holden and his daughter Monica picked us up. We got to see their Summer Cabin in the mountains at Roros. What a beautiful site. I could easily spend time there, as long as I had my computer....:-)). They then took us into Roros and we toured the Church and the Copper Mines. We also stopped and had waffles at a small cafe. I could spend days in that area of Norway and not be bored at all. When we left Roros, we headed towards Trondheim and Endre's home. The scenery was so beautiful I can not explain it. Both Endre and Monica were very good at explaining things to us. When we got to Trondheim, they took us by the ski jump, there was still some snow left at the bottom. Then we went to Endre and Greta's home and got to visit with the rest of the family and have a great meal. The daylight all night was difficult to get use to. Seemed like we never got tired. The next morning Monica took us on a tour of Trondheim. One thing I especially liked was the beach. It was very beautiful and peaceful at the same time. She was excellent at explaining things that we had questions about. We then went on to the round tower restaurant and had lunch. Lyle should enjoy that, we just set the video camera on the table and let him view Trondheim as we did while enjoying an excellent lunch. After lunch, we met up with Turid, a friend of mine from a few years ago and went to her house. It was much fun to visit with her family and her father. Turid and her father, Asbjorn stayed at our home in 2000. I hope they can someday come again. We had great food there and sweets that are so good. In the morning, she took us to Sverresborg and we got to take a tour through the area before leaving on the train for southern Sweden to visit more relatives who have roots in Norway and because of economic conditions, moved to Sweden in the 1940's. To be continued............. Margit and Sonja

I would like to welcome all those who have signed on for the Oppland Mail List and all those who are returning. I have been in Norway the last 3 weeks, so apolojize for being late on this Welcome. Garth has been great to watch the list for me. If you have asked for help and not received it, please repeat your request. jackmse@charter.net jagphd@msn.com greethurst451@mchsi.com GLEBONA@stoughton.k12.wi.us RandiDR@aol.com BKStrand@worldnet.att.net ngleboff@charter.net kmr@polarcomm.com mcdonald@open.org trettonexplorer@prodigy.net rebragg@ix.netcom.com The archives for the Nor-Oppland list are located here: <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NOR-OPPLAND.html> Please post your family information and questions if you wish and tell us who you are interested in researching in the Oppland area of Norway. I am open to all suggestions or ideas for the betterment of the list. Contact me anytime. For those who are new to Norway research, there are also other lists available to join. You can find more information about them here: <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/> Visit site www.fellesraad.com Join a Lag today! I hope you all have a wonderful summer! Margit

I am seeking the parentage of my ancestor Ole Nielsen Dvergsteeneie, born circa 1742. Can someone tell me what parish Dvergsteen belongs to? Is there a bygdebok for this area? Thanks, Garth Ulrich

Hi Garth! Dvergsten lies about halfway between Brandbu and Jaren in Gran kommune. I don't know about a bygdebok. Olaf > I am seeking the parentage of my ancestor Ole Nielsen Dvergsteeneie, > born circa 1742. > > Can someone tell me what parish Dvergsteen belongs to? > > Is there a bygdebok for this area? > > Thanks, > Garth Ulrich

The following, "Twelve Google Search Tips for Genealogists," was posted today on the Norway List. It is a great article and a worthwhile read. http://genealogy.about.com/library/print/n052902a.htm Regards, Garth

I just re-read a letter my great grandfather, Christian SKARTLIEN (in Norway) and MARTINSON (in America) sent to his sister in Wisconsin on July 13, 1873. In the letter he mentions that he and the following people celebrated the 4th of July in this wonderful land. Christian lived in Lime Creek, Dixon County, Nebraska. I thought that perhaps they came from Oppland like he did. The names are: Anise HALVARSON; Halval LUKKEN; Adrias, brother of Gulbran GAPLUND; Ole Seversen ENGESIT; and, Christian VIGER. Would appreciate it if someone could shed some light on these people. Thank you - Mary Ann <cematapey@aol.com>

Hi all Spent Monday in at Ringsaker and got a tour of the Church, right up to the Bells in the Bell Tower. The present minister is a cousin of my husband's. We are having a great time here and love the country of Norway. At the present, we are in Selbu, Norway. Margit __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com