I would like to welcome all those who have signed on for the Oppland Mail List and all those who are returning. MAGIEG@aol.com roda@ccfd6.org> caroljim@sherbtel.net mjohnso@frontiernet.net Please post your family information and questions if you wish and tell us who you are interested in researching in the Oppland area of Norway. I am open to all suggestions or ideas for the betterment of the list. Contact me anytime. The archives for the Nor-Oppland list are located here: <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NOR-OPPLAND.html> For those who are new to Norway research, there are also other lists available to join. You can find more information about them here: <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/> Visit site http://www.fellesraad.com/ Join a Lag today! I hope you all have a wonderful summer and much success in your searches for your family! Margit

Hi Rod, Who was your Tollef Nilsen married to? Thanks, Margit > > Possibly (as in my family's case), the name Gulbrandsdalen is the name > of the farm which wouldn't show up on the map. My Ggrandfather was > Tollef Nilsen but is listed often as Tollef Nilsen Alvstad, Alvstad > being the name of the farm. They used the farm name at the end of their > name because it told very specifically where they were from. Also, you > can look at the farm books from the area and it will list the genealogy > of the farm with who was born, the dates and where they went later. > I've been able to go back 3 or 4 generations using the books. Hope this > helps, Rod

---------- From: "Rod Alvstad" <roda@ccfd6.org> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:26:04 -0700 To: "Margit" <margit@eot.com> Subject: RE: [Oppland] Gudbrandsdalen Possibly (as in my family's case), the name Gulbrandsdalen is the name of the farm which wouldn't show up on the map. My Ggrandfather was Tollef Nilsen but is listed often as Tollef Nilsen Alvstad, Alvstad being the name of the farm. They used the farm name at the end of their name because it told very specifically where they were from. Also, you can look at the farm books from the area and it will list the genealogy of the farm with who was born, the dates and where they went later. I've been able to go back 3 or 4 generations using the books. Hope this helps, Rod -----Original Message----- From: Margit [mailto:margit@eot.com] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 7:57 PM To: NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Oppland] Gudbrandsdalen If you look here in the 1875 census, you will find them on the Brandvold Farm if they are yours. <http://draug.rhd.isv.uit.no/ftsoek/ftsoek.asp?kommando=bosted&ftaar=187 5&sp raak=engelsk_britisk&kommnr=0518&kretsnr=006&bostnr=0084&leilnr=00> Same family as I sent you earlier with his May 15th birth date. Margit > Dear Listers - > > Although we knew that my husband's grandfather Peter Olaf Johannes > Brandvold was born in Norway, we did not know until we received his > death certificate today that Peter is from "Gulbrandsdalen", Norway, > which I am unable to find on my Norwegian map. Are these places one and > the same? Could the place of birth have been misspelled on the birth > certificate? > > Peter was born 15 May 1874, the son of Johannes Brandvold and Karen > Johannesdatter. If he is indeed from Gudbrandsdalen, where would I > begin to look for his christening record in a Kirkebok? Would the > records from Ringebu be appropriate? > > The family came to Pope County, MN, in the 1880s we are told, and then > moved to ND about 1900. > > Thank you. ______________________________

---------- From: "Jean Marthaler" <marwendt@astound.net> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 21:16:21 -0600 To: "'Carol'" <condit@peakpeak.com>, <NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: {not a subscriber} RE: [Oppland] Gudbrandsdalen In the 1920 census for Starbuck Township, Bottineau County, North Dakota we find the family. It appears to say they immigrated in 1886. It is interesting that the township in North Dakota is named Starbuck and the family tree says they were married in 1903 in Starbuck Township in Minnesota and there is a Starbuck in Pope County. Jean Peter was born 15 May 1874, the son of Johannes Brandvold and Karen Johannesdatter. If he is indeed from Gudbrandsdalen, where would I begin to look for his christening record in a Kirkebok? Would the records from Ringebu be appropriate? The family came to Pope County, MN, in the 1880s we are told, and then moved to ND about 1900.

---------- From: "Jean Marthaler" <marwendt@astound.net> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 21:11:49 -0600 To: "'Carol'" <condit@peakpeak.com>, <NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: {not a subscriber} RE: [Oppland] Gudbrandsdalen Hi, this query interested me and I played with it and I also came up with the information that Margit found. The family is listed in the 1875 census for Nord Fron with a Pitter born in 1874 and this would be your Peter. On Ancestry.com I find the family with a family tree completed and it gives the names of Peter's brothers and sisters and they are the names listed in the census records for 1865 and 1875. It lists the parents as Karen and Johannes Brandvold. I grew up in Pope Co. and Peter's son Carl Brandvold and his wife Edna owned a little grocery/general store in Terrace, Minnesota, which was about 2 miles from where I grew up. My family used to buy our groceries there and we always brought our eggs there to sell. The store is now the Terrace Café and it is by the Mill Pond and dam on the Chippewa River and the store has been restored and is now the very well visited Terrace Store Café. It gets lots of tourists etc. in the summer time. The historic Terrace Mill is located there also and it gets a lot of summer visitors. If you would like pictures of the store (then and now) I can send them to you. Also if you would like to know any stories about Carl and Edna I can ask my mother about them. The Pope County Museum in Glenwood, Minnesota would very likely have information on the family and on Carl and Edna. This doesn't help with the Norway information other than we know the family is from Nord Fron, Oppland, Norway. Peter and his wife it says were married in a sod hut in the Starbuck area of Pope County. Jean in Minnesota -----Original Message----- From: Carol [mailto:condit@peakpeak.com] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 5:28 PM To: NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Oppland] Gudbrandsdalen Dear Listers - Although we knew that my husband's grandfather Peter Olaf Johannes Brandvold was born in Norway, we did not know until we received his death certificate today that Peter is from "Gulbrandsdalen", Norway, which I am unable to find on my Norwegian map. Are these places one and the same? Could the place of birth have been misspelled on the birth certificate? Peter was born 15 May 1874, the son of Johannes Brandvold and Karen Johannesdatter. If he is indeed from Gudbrandsdalen, where would I begin to look for his christening record in a Kirkebok? Would the records from Ringebu be appropriate? The family came to Pope County, MN, in the 1880s we are told, and then moved to ND about 1900. Thank you. Carol in Colorado

If you look here in the 1875 census, you will find them on the Brandvold Farm if they are yours. <http://draug.rhd.isv.uit.no/ftsoek/ftsoek.asp?kommando=bosted&ftaar=1875&sp raak=engelsk_britisk&kommnr=0518&kretsnr=006&bostnr=0084&leilnr=00> Same family as I sent you earlier with his May 15th birth date. Margit > Dear Listers - > > Although we knew that my husband's grandfather Peter Olaf Johannes > Brandvold was born in Norway, we did not know until we received his > death certificate today that Peter is from "Gulbrandsdalen", Norway, > which I am unable to find on my Norwegian map. Are these places one and > the same? Could the place of birth have been misspelled on the birth > certificate? > > Peter was born 15 May 1874, the son of Johannes Brandvold and Karen > Johannesdatter. If he is indeed from Gudbrandsdalen, where would I > begin to look for his christening record in a Kirkebok? Would the > records from Ringebu be appropriate? > > The family came to Pope County, MN, in the 1880s we are told, and then > moved to ND about 1900. > > Thank you.

Hi Carol, How sure are you on your parent's names for Peter?? Sodorp located by Nord Fron at one time, where the Brandvold Farm is located in the 1865 census. My husband has relatives from there. What census have you found them in America, years specifically and where? Township? Town? County? Children born? Anything else you know about them?? Margit PETER OLUF JOHANNESEN Male Event(s): Birth: 15 MAY 1874 Christening: 28 JUN 1874 Sodorp, Oppland, Norway Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JOHANNES PAULSEN Family Mother: KARI IVERSDR Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. No source document or additional information exists. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C420071 1851 - 1875 0125513 Film NONE Sheet: 00 > Dear Listers - > > Although we knew that my husband's grandfather Peter Olaf Johannes > Brandvold was born in Norway, we did not know until we received his > death certificate today that Peter is from "Gulbrandsdalen", Norway, > which I am unable to find on my Norwegian map. Are these places one and > the same? Could the place of birth have been misspelled on the birth > certificate? > > Peter was born 15 May 1874, the son of Johannes Brandvold and Karen > Johannesdatter. If he is indeed from Gudbrandsdalen, where would I > begin to look for his christening record in a Kirkebok? Would the > records from Ringebu be appropriate? > > The family came to Pope County, MN, in the 1880s we are told, and then > moved to ND about 1900. > > Thank you. > > Carol in Colorado > > > ==== NOR-OPPLAND Mailing List ==== > http://www.nhohlag.org/stevne.htm > Announcing the 2003 Tre Lag Stevne. A joint Stevne of Gudbrandsdalslaget, > Tr?nderlag of America, and Nord-Hedmark og Hedemarken Lag > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Dear Listers - Although we knew that my husband's grandfather Peter Olaf Johannes Brandvold was born in Norway, we did not know until we received his death certificate today that Peter is from "Gulbrandsdalen", Norway, which I am unable to find on my Norwegian map. Are these places one and the same? Could the place of birth have been misspelled on the birth certificate? Peter was born 15 May 1874, the son of Johannes Brandvold and Karen Johannesdatter. If he is indeed from Gudbrandsdalen, where would I begin to look for his christening record in a Kirkebok? Would the records from Ringebu be appropriate? The family came to Pope County, MN, in the 1880s we are told, and then moved to ND about 1900. Thank you. Carol in Colorado

---------- From: "Joy Sundrum" <joysundrum@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 18:31:30 -0600 To: <NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: {not a subscriber} Casper Olsen I need help finding Casper Olsen. (Kasper, Kasberg) He is listed in the 1801 census On Biøralt, Lunner, Jevnager. 13 years old "Til opfostring." Since he is a foster child, his parents could be dead at that time. He married Anne Tronsdtr, b. 4 Oct 1789 in Lunner. Their daughter Anne b. 29 Dec 1812 on Ryaeie, Lunner. She married Henrik Larsen on 10 Feb 1833 and died 1 Apr 1879 on Bolkeneie or Bolkenjonserud. I have found her on the 1865 census with her husband and 4 children still living at home. They are on Bolkenjonserud, Lunders, Jevnagers. Anne Tronsdtr's parents were Tron Syversen b. ca. 1745 Haagenstad, Lunner and married Anne Eriksdtr b. ca. 1750 in Jevnaker. Most of the above is from the Hadeland Folkemuseum. I have also looked at church films and found the daughter Anne's birth but not her father. The Hadeland Museum had information going back on Anne Tronsdtr's line but nothing on Casper Olsen Any ideas on where to look for Casper--hoping he is not the original Casper the Ghost! Thanks, Joy

Maybe you are interested in a photo of Ringebu, the center village? Look here: http://www.tha.no/bilda/ringebu-juni03.jpg It's possible to see the Ringebu stave church in the hill side in middle of the picture, to the right of the farm with the red barn and white house. The river Laagen is visible, and Faavang farms in the far south. The red building in the center is a brand new shopping center of the Coop group. vennlig hilsen Torleif Haugødegård Hamar Norge

I would like to welcome all those who have signed on for the Oppland Mail List and all those who are returning. g.holter@worldnet.att.net pholling@effectnet.com denniso@daktel.com nordic2@netins.net fmlytys@telusplanet.net b.bjorgen@comcast.net jasonparent@sympatico.ca bjm2@charter.net Please post your family information and questions if you wish and tell us who you are interested in researching in the Oppland area of Norway. I am open to all suggestions or ideas for the betterment of the list. Contact me anytime. The archives for the Nor-Oppland list are located here: <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NOR-OPPLAND.html> For those who are new to Norway research, there are also other lists available to join. You can find more information about them here: <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/> Visit site http://www.fellesraad.com/ Join a Lag today! I hope you all have a wonderful summer and much success in your searches for your family! Margit

---------- From: Vic & Lynn Share <vshare@wi.rr.com> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 07:20:33 -0600 To: nor-oppland-l-request@rootsweb.com Subject: Descendents of Martin Syversen and Johanne Augusta Hansdatter married in 1893. Hilse, I am looking for descendents of my maternal grandparents, from Østre Toten, and hope that someone will recognize these names. Karen Syversen born in 1897 and may have married someone named Anton. Children were Johanne and Arne. (Mary?) Johan Syversen born in 1899, married Marta Gronli. Children were Eva Marianne (1924) and Aase Marie(1926) Helene Syversen born in 1901, married Helge Iversbakken. Children were Håkon Marius(1920 and Karsten(1923) Hilda Syversen born in 1904, married Helge Håkensen. Daughter was Reidunn(married a Reincke ? and moved to Canada) Jenny Syversen born in 1910 married Albert Bjørnerud. Children were Rolf born in 1937 and Arvid in 1946. Johan may have moved to Oslo. Church records show a Mary(1918) born to Karen Syversen and John J. Aslund. Any relation? Three other siblings emigrated to America and lived in Wisconsin. Helga born in 1893, Magnus in 1895 and my mother, Klara, in 1907. I have seen my aunt's last names listed as Martinsen and Syversen. Grandpa Martin was married previously to Syverine Hansdatter who died in 1891. Three children survived to adulthood. Bernt Olaf Martinsen born in 1880 married Ingebord Marie Hansdatter. Children were Signe (1906), Berta(1907), Magnus(1908), Hjalmar(1910), Alvhild(1911), Olav(1914), and Magnhild(1916) Sophie Marie born in 1883 married Ole Kristian Emilan. Some children were Arvid(1910), Emil Marius(1913)m, Signe Johanne(1916) and Oddvar(1922) Hans Sigvard born in 1889 emigrated to America. I located one of his sons and am in contact with that family. I have specific dates for most of the folks listed and have alot more research that I still want to do. Does anyone know of the the Glemmestad clan? Kari Reidunn, Haakon, Aslaug, Andreas, Bjarne, Elen, and Reidar? (born 1898 to 1919) If anyone out there is related, or knows someone who is, I would love to hear from you. Jeg snakke litt Norsk. My Norwegian language lessons have come to a halt as our class teacher moved back to Norway so English would work better for me. Mange takk, Lynn Share, nee Hansen. (My dad was born in Svelvik, Vestvold fylke.

Hei Pat, Fornavn: Hege Anita P Etternavn: Sandvold Poststed: 2849 Kapp Kommune: Østre Toten Fylke: Oppland Sandvold, Jan 2849 Kapp Telephone# 61 16 97 72 Paulseth, Hege 2849 Kapp Telephone # 61 16 97 72 The most current information I could find online about them. Margit > > At one time I was in contact with a descendant of their son Ole Kristian > Hanson Paulseth. > I believe it was his great granddaughter. Her name was Hege Anita > Paulseth . She is > Married to Jan Sandvold. > > Her address was - > > Hege Paulseth Sandvold > Lerkeveien > 2849 Kapp > Ostre Toten > Norway > > I think they must have moved or something as she stopped emailing or > sending letters a couple years > Ago. Is there anyone who is a descendant of this family? Or know of > this family? > > My husband is the grandson of Helga Hanson who is the daughter of Hans > Christian Henrickson & > Lina Olsdatter. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Looking for descendants of Hans Christian Henrickson born 8 June 1853 Holtet, Hurdalen Akershus, Norway and died 4 April 1929 Holen, Ostre Toten, Opland, Norway. He was the son of Henrik Andersen & Katrine Olsdatter Hans married Lina Olsdatter 24 Oct 1879 Hans & Lina had 3 children that I know of.. Helga Hanson, Ole Kristian Hanson Paulseth Hans Peter Hanson. His wife Lina Olsdatter died sometime before 1899 and Hans married Dina Olsdatter on 21 July 1899 At one time I was in contact with a descendant of their son Ole Kristian Hanson Paulseth. I believe it was his great granddaughter. Her name was Hege Anita Paulseth . She is Married to Jan Sandvold. Her address was - Hege Paulseth Sandvold Lerkeveien 2849 Kapp Ostre Toten Norway I think they must have moved or something as she stopped emailing or sending letters a couple years Ago. Is there anyone who is a descendant of this family? Or know of this family? My husband is the grandson of Helga Hanson who is the daughter of Hans Christian Henrickson & Lina Olsdatter. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Pat Holling La Center, Washington USA

Olaf: Thanks for posting this. Any other tidbits of life there would be greatly appreciated. Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "Olaf" <kringhaug@shaw.ca> To: <NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 8:42 PM Subject: [Oppland] Til Seters > TO THE SETER > . > It was about this time of year that formerly a Norwegian farm would send their livestock to a 'seter' A 'seter' is a summer pasture, usually in the mountains where the farm's livestock would be pastured in the summer. In some places it was called a 'støl' Practices varied in different communities. > The law obliged farmers to have a seter. Each farm had its own although some might share one. The few animals a cotter might have were also usually permitted on the main farm's seter. When the livestock was turned out of their byres, usually in May, they would graze on the farm's infield pastures. These were not very big and when the grass was grazed to the roots, the cattle had to be moved. This would permit the infields to recover and grow the fodder for the cattle in the fall. > The setting off for the seter was quite an event as in this account from Malvik: > 'The trip to the seter took place at night. The left home with the livestock and supplies at 8 o'clock at night and herded the animals along the road. Then we drove the animals through the woods to the seter, but the wagon had to follow roads as far as possible. The seter time lasted from the middle of June until the beginning of September." > Another account: > "Then we neared the big day! There was a lot of activity. First we hayed at the seter and stored the hay in a hay barn. On the day itself, down to the barn to milk and clean out. Then out with the pack saddles and baskets. The women brought out all that was needed of dishes, equipment and food and that was packed carefully in the baskets. The horses were then harnessed and the baskets carefully placed and properly secured. Both the horse and the older cattle knew the way, so they didn't have to be guided. The seter girl had already gone up and cleaned the cottage and sheds. And put on the coffee pot! The horse came first and was unloaded. The cattle came slowly next and were turned out to graze. The seter girl then invited everybody for coffee and food - the first time at the seter. > Then all the supplies, dishes and kettles were set in place. The cow stalls were set up as well as the sheepfolds. Then came evening and the cattle came in as at home - the old ones knew their stalls from the previous year. > Then life took its usual course, she milked every morning and evening, herded all day and made cheese when necessary and kept the cottage clean and tidy. Every Saturday and Sunday and the last 3-4 days of her seter months, she got herders from home. > So they days went - sunny days and rainy days. It was a heavenly to herd the animals on a clear sunny day, but when days came with wind and rain and yes, sometimes sleet, then it was something else. It could happen that they would trudge all day, soaked to the skin - then it was not so great. It was impossible at the seter to dry clothes in one night, the morning after one had to put on the just as wet and cold clothes - Huff! Some old women tell that they went barefoot until the first snow skiffs came in the fall. They warmed their feet when a cow urinated. > It the hottest time of summer when the horseflies came, the cows were allowed to stay in during the day and turned out about 4 in the afternoon. We called it night herding. About midnight they would lie down - cows and sheep - and rested until about 3 o'clock. They grazed peacefully and then run home about 8-9 in the morning to escape the horseflies. > When it was time to return home, there was great activity again. The men came with the pack horses and most of the night was spent loading the horses. When all was finished the horses set off as surely as ever, followed by the men. Then came the seter girl and closely behind her the cattle and then the sheep. Finally came the herd boys - they shouted and blow their 'lurs' as they neared home. > The cattle were let in when they got home. The house was scrubbed and decorated like a bride. The floor was strewn with fine-cut juniper branches. The coffee pot stood ready, as finely polished as an officer. The table was decked with the best foods the house could offer. Everyone sat to the table and had an excellent meal after all the work. Afterwards, those who were home went to the barn to milk the cows - the seter girl was free now." > > > > > > > > > ==== NOR-OPPLAND Mailing List ==== > http://www.nhohlag.org/stevne.htm > Announcing the 2003 Tre Lag Stevne. A joint Stevne of Gudbrandsdalslaget, Trønderlag of America, and Nord-Hedmark og Hedemarken Lag > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hei Cliff, If you check the history on this page: <<http://www.stavechurch.no/eng/index.asp>> I would guess that he was. You can always check Church Records to make sure. If you have any questions at all, just ask. :-)) Margit > > Margit, My 4gr grandfather, Ole Olsen Præstangen was christened on 10 May > 1750 and was confirmed in 1764, from > the Ringebu Kirkebøker. Would it be likely that all this happened in the > Stave church? > Cliff Anderson

Margit, My 4gr grandfather, Ole Olsen Præstangen was christened on 10 May 1750 and was confirmed in 1764, from the Ringebu Kirkebøker. Would it be likely that all this happened in the Stave church? Cliff Anderson

Hi Alan and Christine, Here are some pictures: <http://www.thu.no/stavringebu.htm> <http://www.venabu.no/bilde04.htm> <http://www.stavechurch.no/eng/index.asp> Margit

I too would like to see pictures of the church, my great great grandparents were married there 26 May 1863, as well as my greatmother in ather line was baptized there in 1853. Thx Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Hartman" <hartmcm@dcnet2000.com> To: <NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:46 PM Subject: RE: [Oppland] Ringebu Stave Church > I would love to see a picture of the Ringebu Stave Church. My grandmother > left Ringebu in 1910. Her name was Ragna Edvardsdtr. Nesset (born at > Aspelund farm in 1894). She married Chris M. Hagen > (Alfsonhaugen/Langsethagen) in Black River Falls, Wisconsin. > > > > ==== NOR-OPPLAND Mailing List ==== > Make sure you check out the other lists available here for Norway: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I would love to see a picture of the Ringebu Stave Church. My grandmother left Ringebu in 1910. Her name was Ragna Edvardsdtr. Nesset (born at Aspelund farm in 1894). She married Chris M. Hagen (Alfsonhaugen/Langsethagen) in Black River Falls, Wisconsin.