Wow! That is a fast response! It looks about as close as it can. Is there a reason why a brother, Anton, would not be in this record? The record I found in the U.S. Census lists his birth year as 1843. As Karen was born in October 1852, this would definitely appear to be her. What is the best way of going forward to locating more recent relatives? Also, what are the tricks for going back to her parents, grandparents, etc.? Thank you, thank you! This is a fabulous start.

Hi Vickie, I gave reference in the email I sent. It is Dis-Norge from Norway. Here are some resources online for the area: <http://www.dis-norge.no/genress/index.php?todo=visKategori&kid=100180> <http://www.dis-norge.no/genress/index.php?todo=visKategori&kid=101343> I will teach you how to use them. The familysearch.org records were extracted from actual Church records of the area as stated. Margit > > Thank you! What other source other than familysearch.org were you using? > Sorry I have so many questions that seem so elementary and, perhaps, annoying. > It's a bit of a jungle out there, and I have no guides.

Hi Vickie, He could have been an illegetimate child born to Amund before marriage. I do not find one. Here is the parents marriage: AMUND JOHNSEN Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: KJERSTI JENSDR Family Marriage: 25 JAN 1844 Gran, Oppland, Norway Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M424836 1842 - 1856 0307300 Film NONE > Wow! That is a fast response! > > It looks about as close as it can. Is there a reason why a brother, Anton, > would not be in this record? The record I found in the U.S. Census lists his > birth year as 1843. > > As Karen was born in October 1852, this would definitely appear to be her. > What is the best way of going forward to locating more recent relatives? > Also, > what are the tricks for going back to her parents, grandparents, etc.? > > Thank you, thank you! This is a fabulous start.

Hi Vickie, It helps us help you if you leave a little of the message that you are referring to in your post to the list. Like this: Digitalarkivet: Døpte i Gran 1842 - 1856. [58096/34] Rettar til dataene: GDS-Hadeland Post 2630 av 3771/30196 totalt i databasen Lpnr. Prot.henv. Side År Sokn/kirke Dato Ekte/Uekte 2630 216 G11D 361 1852 i Gran prestegjeld 31/10-1852 E Rolle Stilling/yrke Fornavn Etternavn Kjønn Bosted Fødselsdato Fødselsår 21052 Barn Karen K 04/10 1852 21053 Far Gmd Amund Johnsen %Hansen% Rudsødegaard 21054 Mor Kirsti Jensdtr 21055 Fadder Birthe Johnsdtr K Stadumsengen 21056 Fadder Marthe Olsdtr K Torgersrud 21057 Fadder Amund Jensen M Stadumsengen 21058 Fadder Jens Andersen M Torgersrud 21059 Fadder Peder Hansen M HvindenEiet #21055-#21059 are the Sponsors for baptism/christening and the last part such as Stadumsengen is the farm/gard they are from. I will check for Anton. Margit > Margit, > > This seems to be the same family, but I am having trouble making sense out of > the names after Kjersti and Amund. How do they relate?

Vickie, I also find the following at <http://www.familysearch.org> International Genealogical Index - Norway 1. ANDERS AMUNDSEN - International Genealogical Index / NO Gender: Male Christening: 11 AUG 1850 Gran, Oppland, Norway ANDERS AMUNDSEN Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 11 AUG 1850 Gran, Oppland, Norway Death: Burial: Parents: Father: AMUND JOHNSEN Mother: KIRSTI JENSDR Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. 2. AMUND AMUNDSEN - International Genealogical Index / NO Gender: Male Christening: 01 OCT 1854 Gran, Oppland, Norway AMUND AMUNDSEN Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 01 OCT 1854 Gran, Oppland, Norway Death: Burial: Parents: Father: AMUND JOHNSEN Mother: KIRSTI JENSDR Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. 3. JENS AMUNDSEN - International Genealogical Index / NO Gender: Male Christening: 18 JUL 1847 Gran, Oppland, Norway JENS AMUNDSEN Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 18 JUL 1847 Gran, Oppland, Norway Death: Burial: Parents: Father: AMUND JOHNSEN Mother: KIRSTI JENSDR Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. 4. JOHANNES AMUNDSEN - International Genealogical Index / NO Gender: Male Christening: 12 OCT 1845 Gran, Oppland, Norway JOHANNES AMUNDSEN Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 12 OCT 1845 Gran, Oppland, Norway Death: Burial: Parents: Father: AMUND JOHNSEN Mother: KJERSTI JENSDR Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. 5. KAREN AMUNDSEN - International Genealogical Index / NO Gender: Female Christening: 31 OCT 1852 Gran, Oppland, Norway KAREN AMUNDSEN Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 31 OCT 1852 Gran, Oppland, Norway Death: Burial: Parents: Father: AMUND JOHNSEN Mother: KIRSTI JENSDR Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Kirkebøker, 1707-1917 Den Norske kirke. Gran prestegjeld (Oppland) Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C424836 1842 - 1856 0307300 Film NONE Margit >> Margit, >> >> My connection to Oppland is through my great grandmother, Karen Amundsdatter, >> who was from Hadeland, born on October 4, 1852. She married Nils Peter >> Jensen in Gran, May 1881 (Nils Peter was from Buskerud). Very shortly >> thereafter, >> they moved to the U.S. where she appears to have joined a brother, Anton >> Amundsen, who had already emigrated from Norway. They settled in Northern >> Iowa and >> ultimately lived in Eagle Grove where they had four children: Emma, Jennie, >> Karl, and Josef. Josef/Joseph Jensen is my paternal grandfather. Karen had >> a >> brother, Johannes, who joined the family in Iowa at some point thereafter. >> >> I have searched through the Norwegian census and, perhaps, found the family, >> but I don't know how to go any further than that as I cannot seem to find any >> of the brothers and certainly none of their children.

Hi Vickie, This appears to be your Karen, does it fit with what you have found? Note the birthdate (04/10 1852) Here are some resources online for the area: <http://www.dis-norge.no/genress/index.php?todo=visKategori&kid=100180> <http://www.dis-norge.no/genress/index.php?todo=visKategori&kid=101343> Margit <http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=Dp053 41842&variabel=0&postnr=21052&fulle=true&spraak=n> Digitalarkivet: Døpte i Gran 1842 - 1856. [58096/34] Rettar til dataene: GDS-Hadeland Post 2630 av 3771/30196 totalt i databasen Lpnr. Prot.henv. Side År Sokn/kirke Dato Ekte/Uekte 2630 216 G11D 361 1852 i Gran prestegjeld 31/10-1852 E Rolle Stilling/yrke Fornavn Etternavn Kjønn Bosted Fødselsdato Fødselsår 21052 Barn Karen K 04/10 1852 21053 Far Gmd Amund Johnsen %Hansen% Rudsødegaard 21054 Mor Kirsti Jensdtr 21055 Fadder Birthe Johnsdtr K Stadumsengen 21056 Fadder Marthe Olsdtr K Torgersrud 21057 Fadder Amund Jensen M Stadumsengen 21058 Fadder Jens Andersen M Torgersrud 21059 Fadder Peder Hansen M HvindenEiet Rolle Stilling/yrke Fornavn Etternavn Kjønn Bosted Fødselsdato Fødselsår > > Margit, > > My connection to Oppland is through my great grandmother, Karen Amundsdatter, > who was from Hadeland, born on October 4, 1852. She married Nils Peter > Jensen in Gran, May 1881 (Nils Peter was from Buskerud). Very shortly > thereafter, > they moved to the U.S. where she appears to have joined a brother, Anton > Amundsen, who had already emigrated from Norway. They settled in Northern > Iowa and > ultimately lived in Eagle Grove where they had four children: Emma, Jennie, > Karl, and Josef. Josef/Joseph Jensen is my paternal grandfather. Karen had a > brother, Johannes, who joined the family in Iowa at some point thereafter. > > I have searched through the Norwegian census and, perhaps, found the family, > but I don't know how to go any further than that as I cannot seem to find any > of the brothers and certainly none of their children.

Margit, Thank you for your warm and personal welcome, though it certainly fits into the true nature of Norwegians. I am quite new to figuring out ancestry in the U.S. and abroad. I am interested in going back as far as I can, learning more about the lives of my relatives, and moving forward to contact living relatives, albeit distant, in Norway. My connection to Oppland is through my great grandmother, Karen Amundsdatter, who was from Hadeland, born on October 4, 1852. She married Nils Peter Jensen in Gran, May 1881 (Nils Peter was from Buskerud). Very shortly thereafter, they moved to the U.S. where she appears to have joined a brother, Anton Amundsen, who had already emigrated from Norway. They settled in Northern Iowa and ultimately lived in Eagle Grove where they had four children: Emma, Jennie, Karl, and Josef. Josef/Joseph Jensen is my paternal grandfather. Karen had a brother, Johannes, who joined the family in Iowa at some point thereafter. I have searched through the Norwegian census and, perhaps, found the family, but I don't know how to go any further than that as I cannot seem to find any of the brothers and certainly none of their children. I am extremely proud of my Norwegian heritage being raised in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Eagle Grove and on kringla, lefse, and krumkake! Unfortunately my grandmother (Joseph's wife) died when I was five leaving no one with much family history at all. I know what I know through documents and family Bibles that were meticulously kept. I am glad to have found a group of people with the same kinds of interests and backgrounds :) Thanks! Vickie Jensen Los Angeles CA (formerly of Eagle Grove, IA)

I would like to welcome all those who have signed on for the Oppland Mail List and all those who are returning. I apolojize, I have been at the Stevne in Sioux Falls, SD for 3 days. It was the Trondelag area of Norway, the Gudbrandsdal area of Norway and the North Hedmark area of Norway. See more information at the bottom of this note. neil32@aol.com freeman@zipcon.net skams@ncn.net Nicoline@aol.com Steve.Moen@enron.com Sue1or2@aol.com Please post your family information and questions if you wish and tell us who you are interested in researching in the Oppland area of Norway. I am open to all suggestions or ideas for the betterment of this list. Contact me anytime at margit@eot.com. The archives for the Nor-Oppland list are located here: <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NOR-OPPLAND.html> For those who are new to Norway research, there are also other lists available to join. You can find more information about them here: <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/> Visit site http://www.fellesraad.com/ Join a Lag today! I hope you all have a wonderful summer and much success in your searches for your family! Margit

Hei alle, There are three Lesja Bygdebok gard books by Arnfinn Kjelland. Book 3 has Sor-Hole gard with families listed. I have all three books and will do look ups but please include name and dates of birth and spouse if known. The more the better to find in the Norwegian books. As to Sor-Hole - it starts on pg 163 includes: Sor-Hole til fyrst pa 1600, Nordigard til 1872, Nordtun, Nordigard nordre-Oyjordet, Nordigard sore, Sygard, Holsbrekka, Holsmyre, Holshaugen, Elgli-Olderdalen, Vnjar, Furang, Tyrili, Hole-eiget, Oyjordet, Nistugu, Hollykkja, Brekkehagan, Holssetre, Geilhaugen-Holslykkja, Svee, Holestugu, Holsgrinde-Holen, Karihaugen, Ukjente/uplasserte. Ends on pg 199 Perhaps one of the above rings a bell or may be mentioned somewhere in your material for reference..... Terry

Hi Jim, Yes it is. Here is a resource page: For all of Oppland: <http://www.dis-norge.no/genress/index.php?todo=visKategori&kid=100009> For Lesja: <http://www.dis-norge.no/genress/index.php?todo=visKategori&kid=100166> Margit > > I don't have a good map of Norway. Does anyone know if Lesja is in Oppland? > Jim McDonald, searching the Johan Marius Hole family

I don't have a good map of Norway. Does anyone know if Lesja is in Oppland? Jim McDonald, searching the Johan Marius Hole family

Hi Ken, I don't know, I have an old scrapbook I inherited from a lady when she died. When I find old obits, I post them to the corresponding area of Norway. I noticed that Killand was after his name, would this place be found in that area? Margit > Dear Margit: The Knud Benson from Eggedal you mention ,could this be Knut > Bjornson, born 28 Apr 1851 on Raenset / Nyhus farm, came to wisc in 1858 and > then to Freeborn co, MN in 1860 and to Polk Co, MN in 1880 [last name became > Benson when his father changed his first name from Bjorn to Ben in about > 1878 ? ] Parents Bjorn Erickson, b. 8 Oct 1818 and Kristi Olsdatter, b. 1821 > Roysland?? I have lots of information on this family . Ken Enger > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margit" <margit@eot.com> > To: <NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 7:54 PM > Subject: [Oppland] Mrs. Johanna Rikhus Benson Gudbrandsdalen Egedal, Sigdal, > Norway > > >> >> Mrs. Johanna Rikhus Benson >> Mrs. Johanna Rikhus Benson died on 1st of December in Marshville, Wash. >> She was a daughter of Anders Rikhus and his wife Kari and was born in > Sondre >> Fron Gudbrandsdalen the 29th of June 1863. >> She emigrated in 1880, she was 17 years old when she came to Amerika. She >> first came to Lake Park, Minn where she was married to Knud Benson > (Killand) >> from Egedal, Sigdal, Norway. Soon after their marriage they moved to >> Audubon, Minn, where they were lived for 16th years. >> In 1900 Mr. Benson took a homestead in Balfour, N.D., where his family >> came in 1901. Benson died in 1907. They went then to Balfour, where she >> lived till 1937, when she went to Marshville, Wash with her daughters. >> Her children born: Alfred and Elmer in Butte, Montana; Bennie in Wildrose, >> N.D.; Edward, Scobey, Montana; Clara, Seattle, Wash; and (Emelia), Mrs. C. >> Sanrud; (Lulu) Mrs. D.J. Olson, (Cora), Mrs. R.L. Potel i Marshville,

Dear Margit: The Knud Benson from Eggedal you mention ,could this be Knut Bjornson, born 28 Apr 1851 on Raenset / Nyhus farm, came to wisc in 1858 and then to Freeborn co, MN in 1860 and to Polk Co, MN in 1880 [last name became Benson when his father changed his first name from Bjorn to Ben in about 1878 ? ] Parents Bjorn Erickson, b. 8 Oct 1818 and Kristi Olsdatter, b. 1821 Roysland?? I have lots of information on this family . Ken Enger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margit" <margit@eot.com> To: <NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 7:54 PM Subject: [Oppland] Mrs. Johanna Rikhus Benson Gudbrandsdalen Egedal, Sigdal, Norway > > Mrs. Johanna Rikhus Benson > Mrs. Johanna Rikhus Benson died on 1st of December in Marshville, Wash. > She was a daughter of Anders Rikhus and his wife Kari and was born in Sondre > Fron Gudbrandsdalen the 29th of June 1863. > She emigrated in 1880, she was 17 years old when she came to Amerika. She > first came to Lake Park, Minn where she was married to Knud Benson (Killand) > from Egedal, Sigdal, Norway. Soon after their marriage they moved to > Audubon, Minn, where they were lived for 16th years. > In 1900 Mr. Benson took a homestead in Balfour, N.D., where his family > came in 1901. Benson died in 1907. They went then to Balfour, where she > lived till 1937, when she went to Marshville, Wash with her daughters. > Her children born: Alfred and Elmer in Butte, Montana; Bennie in Wildrose, > N.D.; Edward, Scobey, Montana; Clara, Seattle, Wash; and (Emelia), Mrs. C. > Sanrud; (Lulu) Mrs. D.J. Olson, (Cora), Mrs. R.L. Potel i Marshville, Wash. > She had 3 brothers: Anton Rikhus, Twin Valley, Minn; Hans and Ole Rikhus, > Balfour, N.D. There are 12 grandchildren and 3 ggrandchildren. Funeral is > Thursday the 4th of December from O.J. Olson's home where she died and from > the Lutheran Church. Pastor Raymond Halvorsen, Marshville, presiding., > assisted by Pastor and Mrs. Erickson. Burial at Marshville Cemetery > > Thanks to Olaf Kringhaug, I got all the information straight. Gothic Script > is not the easiest to translate. > Some of her children are buried here at Flom, Minnesota. > > Margit > > > ==== NOR-OPPLAND Mailing List ==== > Visit http://www.fellesraad.com/ > Norwegian-American Bygdelagenes Fellesraad > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

So beginning with Iver's lineage,this is what I have found so > far: > 1.Iver Johansen born 2/25/1818 Gran, Hadeland to Johan Erichsen and Goro > Isaaksdtr > Iver's Father: 2.Johan Erichsen Kjoserie, baptised July 5, 1789 > Johan's Parents I believe: 3.Erich Erichsen Enserud married to Christiana > Christophersdtr Prot.henv. Side År Sokn/kirke Dato Ekte/Uekte Merknad om handlingen Merknad om personene 234 G06D 32 1789 Gran 05/07-1789 E D: Introduc: ved Gran 13de Søndag efter Trinit: af Hr Krog. Døbt 4de Søndag efter Trinit ved Gran af Hr Budde. Samme Dag Catech: og Overhøring. Mor introd: 06/09-1789 Rolle Fornavn Etternavn Kjønn Bosted 1801 Barn Johan M 1802 Far Erich Erichsen EnserudEyet 1803 Mor Christiana Christophersdatter 1804 Fadder Ole Olsen M Enserud 1805 Fadder Niels Olsen M Enserud 1806 Fadder Gunder Andersen M Enserud 1807 Fadder Anne Erichsdatter K SørumsEyet 1808 Fadder Berthe Andersdatter K Enserud Rolle Fornavn Etternavn Kjønn Bosted <http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=Dp053 41788&variabel=0&postnr=1802&fulle=true&spraak=n> <http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=granu tfl&variabel=0&postnr=281&fulle=true&spraak=n> Digitalarkivet: Migrants from Gran 1825-1900 and Jevnaker 1837-1901 279 Iver Johans Blegeneiet 1818 25/2 Husm 1848 28. apr. 14 Amerika Gran 280 Gubjør Thorsd Blegeneiet 1818 29/3 Hustru 1848 28. apr. 14 Amerika Gran 281 Kari Iversd Blegeneiet 1845 30/11 Barn 1848 28. apr. 14 Amerika Gran > Siblings of Iver (1801 Census Norway) : Christopher born abt.1787, Morton b. > abt. 1800. Digitalarkivet: 1801-telling for 0534 Gran. [114867/184] Rettar til dataene: Digitalarkivet Post 149 av 265/5422 totalt i databasen Amt Prestegjeld Sokn Gard 149 Christians Gran Gran Dynna Vestre Førenamn Etternamn Hushaldstatus Alder Sivilstand Yrke Kjønn 3249 Anders Olsen Tienestedreng 30 Ugift M 3250 Erich Erichsen Mand 55 1ste egteskab Husmand med jord M 3251 Christina Christophersdtr Hans kone 40 1ste egteskab K 3252 Christopher Deres børn 14 M 3253 Johan Deres børn 12 M 3254 Morten Deres børn 1 M <http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=f1053 4&variabel=0&postnr=3250&fulle=true&spraak=n> JOHAN ERIKSEN Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 05 JUL 1789 Gran, Oppland, Norway Death: Burial: Parents: Father: ERICH ERICHSEN Mother: CHRISTIANA CHRISTOPHERSDR Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C424833 1788 - 1815 0125461 Film NONE www.familysearch.org MORTHEN ERIKSEN Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 18 MAY 1800 Gran, Oppland, Norway Death: Burial: Parents: Father: ERICH ERICHSEN Family Mother: CHRISTINE Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C424833 1788 - 1815 0125461 Film NONE > 4. Erich Erichsen's father: Erich Christophersen, Mother: Morte Christensdr. > The above I have found on LDS site but cannot confirm and need help here > with digital arkivet sources. How about this one?? ERIK ERIKSEN Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 17 NOV 1844 Gran, Oppland, Norway Death: Burial: Parents: Father: ERIK ERIKSEN Mother: KJERSTI JOHNSDR Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C424836 1842 - 1856 0307300 Film NONE Or how about this one?? ERICH ERIKSEN Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 13 FEB 1746 Gran, Oppland, Norway Death: Burial: Parents: Father: ERICH ERICHSEN Mother: INGEBORG CHRISTOPHERSDR Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C424831 1707 - 1758 0125459 Film NONE

Hello, I am looking for information on the following family: This much I know- Father Peder Syversen born 1755 at South Wangen, Froen, Oppland, married Ingebor Erichsdtr. born 1761 Their children: Kari born 1788, Syver born 1790, Engebret born 1792, Mari born 1797, Rønog & Ole born 1800, South Wangen farm, Froen. This information I found in the 1801 Census. This family moved and I cannot find where they moved to. Any one have any ideas? WI Ron

Hi all, I had to split the index for Book 7 which covers 1981-1988 in this area of Minnesota. Be sure to check both indexes and enjoy. Also READ the INSTRUCTIONS on asking for a lookup please. <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~maggiebakke/normanobituarybooks.ht ml> Margit in Minnesota <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~maggiebakke/flom.html>

Hello Margit: Thank you for the reply. OK, you asked for information!!!! :-) I have been researching my husband's Norwegian roots intensively for 19 months now. We have made such great strides. We did have to hire a genealogist from Norway to help us get through our brick wall and that was finding his great grandmother Kari's patronymic name. The Grandfather Ove Oveson was smart enough to join the Valdres Sambam and that gave us some tremendous info. But his wife is another "Piece of Work". Her lineage comes from Hadeland, Gran, Oppland Norway, this info is from the Norway genealogist who searched church records. To date we have found that her name was Kari Iversdatter, born 11/30/ 1845 in Hadeland. Her father is Iver Johansen born 2/25/1818 and her Mother is Gubjor Torgersdatter born 3/29/1915, died 1905. Kari had an older sister named Goro who was born in 1843 and died in 1847. The family then emmigrated to USA to Norway Twp, Racine WI. A distant cousin has also just found out and confirmed through Washington, what we have also found in several obits and that is, Iver went to the Civil War in early 1862, was discharged for medical disabilities in December 24, 1862 in Nashville TN, but died in St. Louis MO in December of 1863. He never made it back home to Iowa. He was in the 15th Wisconsin in Company K. Anyway, I want first to trace Iver's family as far back as possible and his wife Gubjior. So beginning with Iver's lineage,this is what I have found so far: 1.Iver Johansen born 2/25/1818 Gran, Hadeland to Johan Erichsen and Goro Isaaksdtr Iver's Father: 2.Johan Erichsen Kjoserie, baptised July 5, 1789 Johan's Parents I believe: 3.Erich Erichsen Enserud married to Christiana Christophersdtr Siblings of Iver (1801 Census Norway) : Christopher born abt.1787, Morton b. abt. 1800. 4. Erich Erichsen's father: Erich Christophersen, Mother: Morte Christensdr. The above I have found on LDS site but cannot confirm and need help here with digital arkivet sources. Also tracing Iver's mother's family: Goro Isaaksdtr with LDS, I find the following: 1. Goro Isaaksen - Christening: 20/04/1783 Gran Parents: 2.Isaak tomesen, Mother- Anne Nielsdr Then I see for Goro's father: Isak Thommesen or Toverudeje, Christening 27, Dec, 1754, Mother: Ann Pedersen. This line has a pedigree with Goro mentioned as one of several children. When I tried to find them in Digitalarkivet I could only come up with a Jacob Isaksen in 1801 census. Anyway what it comes down to is that I am having a very hard time with both sites and making sure I am following the right line. Is the LDS accurate and is the Digitalarkivet online accurate? Thanks so much for your time and help. Eventually I am going to need it to do the maternal side and that would be Iver's wife Gubjor Torgersdatter. Also we have run up against some brick walls and that would be 1. the marriage place for Kari Johnson or Kari Iversdatter and her husband Ove Oveson. Ove writes in the Valdres Sambam says he married in 1863. Kari's father Iver went to war in 1862. US census finds Kari and Ove and 3 children in Chippewa Cty, MN in 1870 census. Also in the 1870 census we find Kari's mother and the rest of her children living in Chippewa Cty in Mandt Twp. As time passes on We keep finding Ove and Carrie in all federal census records mostly in MN, but in the 1880's they are in ND. and about a dozen kids have been born through the years. 2. In the 1895 Census, Roseau Cty, MN, we don't see Kari anymore. Her husband is living in Roseau with all younger children sans Kari, and he states he is a widow, but we find Kari's grave in Grand Forks ND in 1909. Her obit says she is a widow. This is her grave as we knew the daughter's name and her son in law's name. So either they had a falling out and separated or Kari was ill. I have searched Iowa for marriage certificates till I am blue in the face. Ove is found in Roseau Cemetery dod 1923. Whatever happened to Grandma Kari and Grandpa Ove we have no clue and it died with that generation. Another mystery and no one alive to tell the story. Got any ideas !!! Darn. I hate loose ends!! :-) Genealogy is HARD WORK!!! :( Interesting but still very hard when you start out with so little, I am amazed we have come so far but not without much persistence and dedicated people out there on the internet who care enough to help! Thanks,in advance for any info. Sincerely Carol Oveson ----- Original Message ----- From: Margit To: caroljim Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 7:30 PM Subject: Re: NOR-OPPLAND Hi Carol, I would suggest you work on one line of family from one area of Norway at a time. It will get confusing otherwise. Yes I do help, I like to see all information you know about the people you are searching on before doing any searching on my own. :-)) There are lots of people on the list willing to help if they can. Welcome! Margit

Mrs. Johanna Rikhus Benson Mrs. Johanna Rikhus Benson died on 1st of December in Marshville, Wash. She was a daughter of Anders Rikhus and his wife Kari and was born in Sondre Fron Gudbrandsdalen the 29th of June 1863. She emigrated in 1880, she was 17 years old when she came to Amerika. She first came to Lake Park, Minn where she was married to Knud Benson (Killand) from Egedal, Sigdal, Norway. Soon after their marriage they moved to Audubon, Minn, where they were lived for 16th years. In 1900 Mr. Benson took a homestead in Balfour, N.D., where his family came in 1901. Benson died in 1907. They went then to Balfour, where she lived till 1937, when she went to Marshville, Wash with her daughters. Her children born: Alfred and Elmer in Butte, Montana; Bennie in Wildrose, N.D.; Edward, Scobey, Montana; Clara, Seattle, Wash; and (Emelia), Mrs. C. Sanrud; (Lulu) Mrs. D.J. Olson, (Cora), Mrs. R.L. Potel i Marshville, Wash. She had 3 brothers: Anton Rikhus, Twin Valley, Minn; Hans and Ole Rikhus, Balfour, N.D. There are 12 grandchildren and 3 ggrandchildren. Funeral is Thursday the 4th of December from O.J. Olson's home where she died and from the Lutheran Church. Pastor Raymond Halvorsen, Marshville, presiding., assisted by Pastor and Mrs. Erickson. Burial at Marshville Cemetery Thanks to Olaf Kringhaug, I got all the information straight. Gothic Script is not the easiest to translate. Some of her children are buried here at Flom, Minnesota. Margit

Hi all, Here are some resources online for Oppland for the new ones on the list: <http://www.arkivnett.ol.no/dbsok/ekb.asp> <http://slektshistorielaget.no/> <http://www.dis-norge.no/genress/index.php?todo=visKategori&kid=100009> Any questions at all, just ask away. We like to help. Margit

Thanks, Rod - I have had success finding this family due to the kindness of folks on this list. I am most appreciative. They actually lived on the Brandvold farm in the Gudbrandsdalen Valley. Carol