Hi, I would like to find the death date of a great uncle from Skjåk. His name was Karl Persen, born 2/25/1872 baptised in Nordberg Church 4/21/1872. He was a child when he died. The family is found under Lund XII in the Ættebok for Skjåk. Thanks, John Peterson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margit" <margit@eot.com> To: <NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 10:44 PM Subject: [Oppland] Welcome to the Oppland Mail list > Hello All! > > I would like to take this time to welcome all those who have signed on for > the Oppland Mail List and all those who are returning. Please get your > requests out here on the list to see if we can help. > > peglund@ticon.net > > I apolojize for not including the above subsciber, she joined when I was in > Norway in May. I just checked some of my lists offline since then. Welcome!! > > Please post your family information and questions if you wish and tell us > who you are interested in researching in the Oppland area of Norway. Also, > anyone from Norway who would like help searching their relatives in America, > please let us know, we love to help and are very good at it when enough > information is given about the emigrants from Norway. > I am open to all suggestions or ideas for the betterment of the list. > Contact me anytime. > > The archives for the Nor-Oppland list are located here: > <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NOR-OPPLAND.html> > > For those who are new to Norway research, there are also other lists > available to join. You can find more information about them here: > <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/> > > Visit site http://www.fellesraad.com/ > Join a Lag today! > > I hope you all have a great Fall Season and much success in your searches > for your family! > > Margit > > > ==== NOR-OPPLAND Mailing List ==== > http://www.nhohlag.org/stevne.htm > Announcing the 2003 Tre Lag Stevne. A joint Stevne of Gudbrandsdalslaget, Trønderlag of America, and Nord-Hedmark og Hedemarken Lag > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Margit... Thanks a million for the information I received reference relatives that came from the Gudbrandsdalen area, Steenfinsbo. No doubt I will be asking for more as I dig deeper into the relatives that came from the area. Thanks again. Cliff Hjelmer

Hi Barb, Yes there are. I apolojize for not answering right away. I have had company at my house from Norway and Washington State again for a week. :-)) Sel resources are here: <http://www.dis-norge.no/genress/index.php?todo=visKategori&kid=100171> and Nord Fron resources are here: <http://www.dis-norge.no/genress/index.php?todo=visKategori&kid=100170> All of Oppland resources online are here: <http://www.dis-norge.no/genress/index.php?todo=visKategori&kid=100009> Any questions, any time, please ask. Margit > Hi Marget, Thanks so much for the info on clerical districts, is there a > website I can go to that will list the farms for Nord-Fron, & Sel that my > grandfather Ole Knudson's parents may have owned? > Also is there a website for census of Nord-Fron and Sel so I can locate my > greatgrandparents in 1860 or 1870. Ole left with his sister, Anna left Norway > in 1880 according to the Naturalization records and bio. in Minot ND in USA. > Barb (BNelson230@aol.com

Hello All! I would like to take this time to welcome all those who have signed on for the Oppland Mail List and all those who are returning. Please get your requests out here on the list to see if we can help. peglund@ticon.net I apolojize for not including the above subsciber, she joined when I was in Norway in May. I just checked some of my lists offline since then. Welcome!! Please post your family information and questions if you wish and tell us who you are interested in researching in the Oppland area of Norway. Also, anyone from Norway who would like help searching their relatives in America, please let us know, we love to help and are very good at it when enough information is given about the emigrants from Norway. I am open to all suggestions or ideas for the betterment of the list. Contact me anytime. The archives for the Nor-Oppland list are located here: <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NOR-OPPLAND.html> For those who are new to Norway research, there are also other lists available to join. You can find more information about them here: <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/> Visit site http://www.fellesraad.com/ Join a Lag today! I hope you all have a great Fall Season and much success in your searches for your family! Margit

Hello All! I would like to take this time to welcome all those who have signed on for the Oppland Mail List and all those who are returning. Please get your requests out here on the list to see if we can help. BNelson230@aol.com gulrich@sasktel.net arnbergo@online.no ronulberg@networld.com Dlbjelde@aol.com northlight10@hotmail.com bgunelson@yahoo.com chjelmer@mchsi.com mbue@cfl.rr.com Please post your family information and questions if you wish and tell us who you are interested in researching in the Oppland area of Norway. Also, anyone from Norway who would like help searching their relatives in America, please let us know, we love to help and are very good at it when enough information is given about the emigrants from Norway. I am open to all suggestions or ideas for the betterment of the list. Contact me anytime. The archives for the Nor-Oppland list are located here: <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NOR-OPPLAND.html> For those who are new to Norway research, there are also other lists available to join. You can find more information about them here: <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/> Visit site http://www.fellesraad.com/ Join a Lag today! I hope you all have a great Fall Season and much success in your searches for your family! Margit

Hi Marget, Thanks so much for the info on clerical districts, is there a website I can go to that will list the farms for Nord-Fron, & Sel that my grandfather Ole Knudson's parents may have owned? Also is there a website for census of Nord-Fron and Sel so I can locate my greatgrandparents in 1860 or 1870. Ole left with his sister, Anna left Norway in 1880 according to the Naturalization records and bio. in Minot ND in USA. Barb (BNelson230@aol.com

Hello Margit, Thanks for making the Sel information very clear, my family farm is in that area, their address is " Bredebygden". WI Ron

Sel By ordinance of 6.12.1737 "Breden-Bygden" was divided between Vågå and Fron clerical district such that farm nos. 177-189 in Nord-Fron was added to Fron prestegjeld, while farm nos. 198-204 and 208 in Sel were added to Vågå clerical district. By royal resolution 17.12. 1909 effective from 1.1. 1910 Vågå clerical district was divided in two: Vågå and Sel clericaldistricts. Vågå consisted of Vågå head parish, while Sel clerical district consisted of Sel and Heidal parishes. Official business before 1.1. 1910 must therefore be sought in the Vågå parish office. By royal resolution 10.4.1964 effective from 1.1.1965 the following properties were transferred from Vågå kommune to Sel kommune: farm no. 1 subfarms 5-6, 10-13 and 23, parts of farm no. 1 subfarms 5 and 10. At the same time the Sjoa area was transferred from Nord-Fron kommune to Sel kommune.

Hi Margrit, Here is the bio. on Ole M. Knudson my grandfather from History of North Dakota- History and Peoples Vol. III published in 1917. Ole M. Knudson, who during almost seventeen years' connection with the Minot Waterworks in the capacity of engineer has never lost a single day, was born in Gudbransdal, Norway, Jan. 6, 1860. a son of Knudt and Ragnhild (Olson) Knudson, who were also natives of that country, where the father conducted business as a contractor and builder, both passing away in Norway. Ole was one of twins, the youngest children in a family of ten. He attended school in Norway and at the age of 12 years began earning his own living by working in a livery stable, where he was employed for four years. His mother being a widow, he contributed to her support and at the end of that time he returned home and assisted his mother on the farm, his father having died when Ole was but six years of age. He continued at home until he reached the age of eighteen, after which he was employed by a farmer of Norway for two years. Attracted by the opportunities of the new world, he then came to America, making his way to LaCrosse, Wisconsin, at which time he was totally unacquainted with the English language. He was first employed in the piling lumber, working in that way throught the summer after which he secured a job on a tug deck, spending two summers in that way. He was next employed on a carriage in a sawmill for seven seasons, at the end of which he went to St. Pa;ul, Minnesota, wher he secured a position as a stationary engineer. He had learned the trade when a young lad and he followed that business in St. Paul for seventeen Years, continually promotion hes energy and efficiency through his wide experience. In 1899 he took up his abode on a claim near Minot and for one year he was employed as engineer at the Leland Hotel, after which he took charge of the Minot Waterworks, continuing as engineer in that city for almost seventeen years. During the entire time he has never been off duty for a single day and frequently he has worked both day and night. He assisted in the installation of all the machinery of the plant and he keeps everything in excellent condition. He is still a large landowner in North Dakota, renting his land, from which he derives a good annual income, and in 1906 he completed his present home at the corner of Second St. Sothwest and Third Ave. He likewise owns other valuable city property near the State Normal School and his realty holdings are visible evidence of a life of well directed energy and thrift. His entire attention, is devoted to the waterworks plant and it is the consenus of public opinion that it would be impossible for Minot to secure a more competent and faithful official In 1894 Mr. Knudson was married to Miss Emma Bloom of White Bear Lake, MN. daughter of Caspar Bloom and Margaret (Elmer) Bloom. To Mr. and Mrs. Knudson have been born four children: Edith, Stanley, Ruth, and Esther who is four years of age.. Mr. Knudson is a member of the Association of Commerce at Minot and belongs to the Lutheran church. In politics he is independent but he has never been a office seeker, preferring to concentrate his energies upon his duties as superintendent of the waterworks in which connection his record has ever been most creditable. My mother was Ruth - Ole's daughter, Ole died in 1918 of TB, much family history is lost. Thank you for your interest, and any feedback would be very much appreciated. Barb Nelson (BNelson230@aol.com)

Hei Cliff, Here appears to be your family in the 1875 census of Norway: * Census year: 1875 * Municipality: Sel * Municipality number: 0517 * Name of domicile: Steenfinsbø <http://draug.rhd.isv.uit.no/ftsoek/ftsoek.asp?kommando=bosted&ftaar=1875&sp raak=engelsk_britisk&kommnr=0517&kretsnr=008&bostnr=0060&leilnr=00> Number of persons in this domicile: 12. Name Family status Marital status Occupation Birth year Birth place Ethnicity Olie Olsdatter hm e Gaardbr. Selveier 1849 Sel Pauline Paulsdatter Hendes Datter 1870 Sel Gudbrand Paulsen Hendes Søn 1871 Sel Ragnhild Paulsdatter Hendes Datter 1873 Sel Gudbrand Hansen Hendes Svigerf. g Føderaadsmand 1798 Vaage S. P. Ragnhild Paulsdatter Hans Kone g 1796 Vaage S. P. Hans Gudbrandsen Deres Søn ug Føderaadsmand 1816 Vaage S. P. John Hansen Randen Tjener g Tjenestekarl 1849 Sel Anne Knudsdatter Tjener ug Stuepige 1857 Sel Kari Olsdatter Tjener ug Budeie 1828 Sel Jacob Andersen Lægdslem ug Lægdslem 1825 Sel Mari Paulsdatter Kamhaugen Lægdslem ug Lægdslem 1821 Sel > From: Margit <margit@eot.com> > Reply-To: NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 22:16:43 -0500 > To: NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Oppland] FW: Grandparent search > Resent-From: NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 21:16:37 -0600 > > ---------- > From: "chjelmer" <chjelmer@mchsi.com> > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 15:54:22 -0500 > To: <NOR-OPPLAND-admin@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Grandparent search > > I am trying to trace ancestors that came from the Gudbrandsdalen Valley...a > place called Steinfinnsbo. > Ragnild Paulson born August 07, 1874. Born to Ola Paulson and Lars Paulson. > They came by boat from Kristian...in 1888. I believe the church burned down > years ago where the records may have perished. > > Where would be a good place to start an ancestor search? > Thank you. > Cliff Hjelmer > > > ==== NOR-OPPLAND Mailing List ==== > http://www.nhohlag.org/stevne.htm > Announcing the 2003 Tre Lag Stevne. A joint Stevne of Gudbrandsdalslaget, > Tr?nderlag of America, and Nord-Hedmark og Hedemarken Lag > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

---------- From: "chjelmer" <chjelmer@mchsi.com> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 15:54:22 -0500 To: <NOR-OPPLAND-admin@rootsweb.com> Subject: Grandparent search I am trying to trace ancestors that came from the Gudbrandsdalen Valley...a place called Steinfinnsbo. Ragnild Paulson born August 07, 1874. Born to Ola Paulson and Lars Paulson. They came by boat from Kristian...in 1888. I believe the church burned down years ago where the records may have perished. Where would be a good place to start an ancestor search? Thank you. Cliff Hjelmer

Have a look at the following information regarding the bygdelag for Gudbrandsdal http://www.fellesraad.com/gudbrandsdalnational.htm Regards, Garth Margit wrote: > ---------- > From: "chjelmer" <chjelmer@mchsi.com> > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 15:54:22 -0500 > To: <NOR-OPPLAND-admin@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Grandparent search > > I am trying to trace ancestors that came from the Gudbrandsdalen Valley...a > place called Steinfinnsbo.

Hi Barb, Can you send the bio onlist? Sometimes the bio's contain little bits of information that help. Send also all information you have on them, including the family you think may be theirs in Norway. Glad to help if I can. Margit > > Hi Margrit, My grandfather homesteaded in Minot ND in Ward Co. We have found > a bio. of him in North Dakota History and Peoples, also found his homestead > in Land Patent Details. Hope to find more about his family in Norway his > mother' name was Raghild and father Knudt, there is a family that seems to > match in > Fron, the area of Sodorp. He was born in 1860 or 1858. He had a twin but it > was an older sister Anna that went with him to the US going to WI. I have > found info in the LaCrosse archives. > The search goes on. Barb

Hi Dave, The more information you give, with farm/gård names, helps all of us help you. Thanks for adding the names and dates you have. Also, when replying to a reply, always leave some of the original query, it also helps us remember where we are at and what is known. Here is a great site that tells how to make a good query, good reading for all of us. :-)) It was written by my friend Linda from another great list. Margit <http://www.rootsweb.com/~wgnorway/good-queries.htm> > ---------- > From: Dlbjelde@aol.com > Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:25:47 EDT > To: margit@eot.com > Subject: Re: [Oppland] FW: Christen Olsen and Marith Hansdotter > > I found Anna Christensdotter being married to Toger Erikson in Luster County > Bydebok, Book V, Jostedal page 118. It states that Anna was b/c 4.1.1784 > Skjak to Christen Olson and Marit Hansdotter. She was from the Dagsgard > Farm. > > In the Lom/Skjak, Oppland Church Records, I find Anne and Tosten being born > to Christen Olsen and Marith Hansdotter Dagsgaard. Christen was born to > Christen Olsen and Marith Hansdotter Stensgard. Nils and Nils were born to > Christen Olsen and Marith Hansdotter Mork. Hans was born to Christen > Morke. > Marie and Marit were born to Xsten Morke. I have a Christen Olsen being > born to > Ole Morke on 26 May 1740 in Lom, Oppland > > I cannot find any marriage record for Christen Olsen and Marith Hansdotter > in > Lom or Skjaak. > > I have not been able to find any of them in the 1801 Census, yet. > > Thanks for your help

---------- From: Dlbjelde@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:25:47 EDT To: margit@eot.com Subject: Re: [Oppland] FW: Christen Olsen and Marith Hansdotter I found Anna Christensdotter being married to Toger Erikson in Luster County Bydebok, Book V, Jostedal page 118. It states that Anna was b/c 4.1.1784 Skjak to Christen Olson and Marit Hansdotter. She was from the Dagsgard Farm. In the Lom/Skjak, Oppland Church Records, I find Anne and Tosten being born to Christen Olsen and Marith Hansdotter Dagsgaard. Christen was born to Christen Olsen and Marith Hansdotter Stensgard. Nils and Nils were born to Christen Olsen and Marith Hansdotter Mork. Hans was born to Christen Morke. Marie and Marit were born to Xsten Morke. I have a Christen Olsen being born to Ole Morke on 26 May 1740 in Lom, Oppland I cannot find any marriage record for Christen Olsen and Marith Hansdotter in Lom or Skjaak. I have not been able to find any of them in the 1801 Census, yet. Thanks for your help Dave

Hi Dave, Can you tell us how you know the information below is your family? Have you found them in the 1801 census of Norway? Anne was not born on January 4, 1784, she was christened on that day according to Church Records. You need to be sure you are following the correct family in Norway. Margit ANNE CHRISTENSEN Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 04 JAN 1784 Lom, Oppland, Norway Death: Burial: Parents: Father: CHRISTEN OLSEN Mother: MARITH HANSDR Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C421551 1733 - 1835 0125511 Film NONE > From: Dlbjelde@aol.com > Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 05:26:54 -0600 > To: NOR-OPPLAND-L-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: Christen Olsen and Marith Hansdotter > > I am trying to find out where Christen Olsen and Marith Hansdotter came > from.  They lived in Lom, Oppland and had eight children there that I know > of: > > Marie born 26 Sep 1762 > Marit born 3 Aug 1766 > Hans born 13 Nov 1768 > Nils born 1 May 1773 > Nils born 5 Feb 1775 > Christen born 10 Aug 1777 > Tosten born 9 Apr 1780 > Anna born 4 Jan 1784 > > Anna moved to Jostedal, Sogn og Fjordane and Married to Toge Eriksen, and I > am desended through them. If anyone could help me out, I would appreciate > it. > > Thanks Dave Bjelde > > > > > ==== NOR-OPPLAND Mailing List ==== > http://www.nhohlag.org/stevne.htm > Announcing the 2003 Tre Lag Stevne. A joint Stevne of Gudbrandsdalslaget, > Trønderlag of America, and Nord-Hedmark og Hedemarken Lag > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

---------- From: Dlbjelde@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 05:26:54 -0600 To: NOR-OPPLAND-L-request@rootsweb.com Subject: Christen Olsen and Marith Hansdotter I am trying to find out where Christen Olsen and Marith Hansdotter came from.  They lived in Lom, Oppland and had eight children there that I know of: Marie born 26 Sep 1762 Marit born 3 Aug 1766 Hans born 13 Nov 1768 Nils born 1 May 1773 Nils born 5 Feb 1775 Christen born 10 Aug 1777 Tosten born 9 Apr 1780 Anna born 4 Jan 1784 Anna moved to Jostedal, Sogn og Fjordane and Married to Toge Eriksen, and I am desended through them. If anyone could help me out, I would appreciate it. Thanks Dave Bjelde

Hi Margrit, My grandfather homesteaded in Minot ND in Ward Co. We have found a bio. of him in North Dakota History and Peoples, also found his homestead in Land Patent Details. Hope to find more about his family in Norway his mother' name was Raghild and father Knudt, there is a family that seems to match in Fron, the area of Sodorp. He was born in 1860 or 1858. He had a twin but it was an older sister Anna that went with him to the US going to WI. I have found info in the LaCrosse archives. The search goes on. Barb

Hei all, While in Cowboy Country this last weekend, I bought the Morton County, North Dakota History and Biography Book. Anyone wishing lookups, contact me. There is an index and a lot are from Germany/Russia + Norway/Sweden and other parts of Scandinavia. Margit margit@eot.com

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