Hi all, Just to let you know that my email server has been having problems and rejecting a lot of email. I have not been getting the posts to the Oppland list the last few days. If anyone has written to me with a question, please write again. I will be happy to help if I can. :-) Please post your family information and questions if you wish and tell us who you are interested in researching in the Oppland area of Norway. Also, anyone from Norway who would like help searching their relatives in America, please let us know, we love to help and are very good at it when enough information is given about the emigrants from Norway. I am open to all suggestions or ideas for the betterment of the list. Contact me anytime. margit@eot.com The archives for the Nor-Oppland list are located here: <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NOR-OPPLAND.html> For those who are new to Norway research, there are also other lists available to join. You can find more information about them here: <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/> Margit

Maggie, I may have some help for Marilyn. I have some of my relatives who migrated from Heggenes to Ringbu and I believe there was a Gulbrand Engebretsen. I'm at work now and can't check until tomorrow (Fireman), But I think I may have a copy from the parrish records that I can forward. Could you please give her my email address? Thanks, Rod Alvstad -----Original Message----- From: MAGIEG@aol.com [mailto:MAGIEG@aol.com] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 4:25 PM To: NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Oppland] My Research Interests in Oppland Dear Peter, I read your note and wonder if you help with my research on my family from Ringebu. My great-great grandfather was the first person to leave Ringebu for America in 1845. In "Ministerialbok for Ringebu" ( how is this book different than your kirkeboker?) on page 165 #12 is Gulbrand Engebretsen Tullien, 26, 29de April 1845 to Amerika- my great great grandfather. I was in Ringebu this summer and was told that Gulbrand had several brothers and sisters follow him to the US. I would love help in tracking them and also with finding out more about Gulbrand's parents, Engebret Gulbrandsen (b.1796) and Marit Syversdatter Hilstadatter (b.1796). Do you read Norweign? I am really having problems with the language. If I can help with my two Ministerialbok for Ringebu 1842-1849 and 1696-1734 let me know. Is there an index for these books or do you just search through them? I am looking forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, Marilyn Guinn ==== NOR-OPPLAND Mailing List ==== Make sure you check out the other lists available here for Norway: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Marilyn wrote: > > I was in Ringebu this > summer and was told that Gulbrand had > several brothers and sisters follow him to the US. I would love > help in tracking them and also with finding out more about > Gulbrand's parents, Engebret Gulbrandsen (b.1796) and Marit > Syversdatter Hilstadatter (b.1796). > Marilyn -- I see two of Gulbrand's brothers emigrating, one in 1869 and one in 1870. I'll write more about them later. I can also do some work on his parents, but it will probably be a while, since I'm extremely busy at work these days. In the meantime, you should check out Nanna Egidius's Kaldor Farm website and look at the genealogical database she has. She traces much of Gulbrand's ancestry there (she spells his farm name "Tullia"). Please take a look and let me know what additional information you are particularly interested in. Nanna's website is at: www.kaldor.no Peter J. Arnesen

I have ancestors from both the Ringebu and Gran area..Family names connected to farm names from Hadeland/Gran area are Melbostad (family members still living there), Blegeneie, and Egge Gubrandson (Gilbertson). The name Pederson was also used prior to taking the farm names. From Ringebu/Favaang area Myhre, Romas, and Segelstad/Seiestad are the main names. This family also related to a famous woodcarver named Kirsten Listad and they have donated many items to the Maighaugen museum in Lillehammer. I too have the book by Einer Hovdhaugen. I am particularly interested in information about my great grandfather Anders P. Melbostad (Anders Pederson) who emmigrated and last settled in Wolverton/Wilkins Co. Minnesota and then Barnesville/Clay County Minnesota. He died in 1907 and wife Siri (Sigrid) in 1905. -----Original Message----- From: Peter J. Arnesen <parnesen@provide.net> To: NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com <NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, October 12, 2003 7:34 PM Subject: [Oppland] My Research Interests in Oppland >Hello List, > >Margit invited those of us who joined the list last week to summarize our >research interests. > >Five of my eight paternal great great grandparents were from Oppland: > > Peder Arnesen BAKKE (1817-1890) of Ringebu > > Anne Arnesdatter BERG (1827-1907) of Ringebu > > Hans Johannessen BERGUM (1832-1918) of Øyer > > Kari Johnsdatter STRØMSJORDET (1828-1915) of Øyer > > Anders Olsen DEHLIN (1809-ca. 1876) of Jevnaker. > >Anne, Hans, Kari, and Anders all emigrated to the United States. Naturally, >as I move back in time I need to consider other "farm address names" as >well. > >In terms of help I can offer others, I have the published kirkebøker of Øyer >and Ringebu, and also own Einar Hovdhaugen's "Utvandrigen til Amerika frå >Ringebu." > >I look forward to sharing information with other listers. > > >Peter J. Arnesen >9617 Whispering Pines Court >Saline, MI 48176 > > >==== NOR-OPPLAND Mailing List ==== >Make sure you check out the other lists available here for Norway: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/ > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi all, If there is anyone who wishes help, let us all know by just hitting reply to this message and changing the subject line to your people. The archives for the Nor-Oppland list are located here: <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NOR-OPPLAND.html> For those who are new to Norway research, there are also other lists available to join. You can find more information about them here: <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/> Margit

Dear Peter, I read your note and wonder if you help with my research on my family from Ringebu. My great-great grandfather was the first person to leave Ringebu for America in 1845. In "Ministerialbok for Ringebu" ( how is this book different than your kirkeboker?) on page 165 #12 is Gulbrand Engebretsen Tullien, 26, 29de April 1845 to Amerika- my great great grandfather. I was in Ringebu this summer and was told that Gulbrand had several brothers and sisters follow him to the US. I would love help in tracking them and also with finding out more about Gulbrand's parents, Engebret Gulbrandsen (b.1796) and Marit Syversdatter Hilstadatter (b.1796). Do you read Norweign? I am really having problems with the language. If I can help with my two Ministerialbok for Ringebu 1842-1849 and 1696-1734 let me know. Is there an index for these books or do you just search through them? I am looking forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, Marilyn Guinn

Hello List, Margit invited those of us who joined the list last week to summarize our research interests. Five of my eight paternal great great grandparents were from Oppland: Peder Arnesen BAKKE (1817-1890) of Ringebu Anne Arnesdatter BERG (1827-1907) of Ringebu Hans Johannessen BERGUM (1832-1918) of Øyer Kari Johnsdatter STRØMSJORDET (1828-1915) of Øyer Anders Olsen DEHLIN (1809-ca. 1876) of Jevnaker. Anne, Hans, Kari, and Anders all emigrated to the United States. Naturally, as I move back in time I need to consider other "farm address names" as well. In terms of help I can offer others, I have the published kirkebøker of Øyer and Ringebu, and also own Einar Hovdhaugen's "Utvandrigen til Amerika frå Ringebu." I look forward to sharing information with other listers. Peter J. Arnesen 9617 Whispering Pines Court Saline, MI 48176

Hi Gwen, You will find 21 Molstad's in Traill County of North Dakota in 1885. Just fill in Molstad here and Traill for County. <http://www.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/ndirs/databases/census.php> Margit I'm waiting now to > get the 1885 census records on the Molstads in Traill county. There seem to > be a lot of Molstads in Traill county, I'm finding. They all had very large > families.

Yes, I did find them. There are two large groups and some individuals in other ED's. I've sent away for the printed records so I can see the relationships between them, and see if the singles are related or just other people with that name. I hope I'm not wasting my money. Gwen Newborg, Portland, Or Courtney, Extra-special Lhasa Apso Sandy, Extra-special Pembroke Welsh Corgi Mork, Mindy, Max, super cats Webshots photos: http://community.webshots.com/user/gnewborg101 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margit" <margit@eot.com> To: <NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [Oppland] Molstad in Traill County 1885 Hi Gwen, You will find 21 Molstad's in Traill County of North Dakota in 1885. Just fill in Molstad here and Traill for County. <http://www.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/ndirs/databases/census.php> Margit I'm waiting now to > get the 1885 census records on the Molstads in Traill county. There seem to > be a lot of Molstads in Traill county, I'm finding. They all had very large > families. ==== NOR-OPPLAND Mailing List ==== Visit http://www.fellesraad.com/ Norwegian-American Bygdelagenes Fellesraad ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Thank you. He may be the son of Ole or Christian Molstad. I'm waiting now to get the 1885 census records on the Molstads in Traill county. There seem to be a lot of Molstads in Traill county, I'm finding. They all had very large families. Gwen Newborg, Portland, Or Courtney, Extra-special Lhasa Apso Sandy, Extra-special Pembroke Welsh Corgi Mork, Mindy, Max, super cats Webshots photos: http://community.webshots.com/user/gnewborg101 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory M Holter" <g.holter@worldnet.att.net> To: <NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [Oppland] Thanks for information Gwen, In case you don't have this information already, I looked in the Traill County cemetery book by the Red River Valley Genealogical Society and found the following: In Hillsboro Riverside Cemetery - No. 2, Eldorado Township, Section 32: John Molstad (father) 1882-1958 Karen Molstad (mother) 1887- 1949 Greg Holter -----Original Message----- >Thank you to everyone who's sent me information in the last couple of days. I've now joined the Hadeland Lag and hope to find more information there. I've also looked at the 1885 Dakota Census and sent for information on the Molstad's in Traill County. ==== NOR-OPPLAND Mailing List ==== Make sure you check out the other lists available here for Norway: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Gwen, In case you don't have this information already, I looked in the Traill County cemetery book by the Red River Valley Genealogical Society and found the following: In Hillsboro Riverside Cemetery - No. 2, Eldorado Township, Section 32: John Molstad (father) 1882-1958 Karen Molstad (mother) 1887- 1949 Greg Holter -----Original Message----- >Thank you to everyone who's sent me information in the last couple of days. I've now joined the Hadeland Lag and hope to find more information there. I've also looked at the 1885 Dakota Census and sent for information on the Molstad's in Traill County.

Hei Gwen, We had Molstad's in Norman County also, which is right next to Traill County ND. I am off to Hostfest. Will check more when I get home. Margit > > Thank you to everyone who's sent me information in the last couple of days. > I've now joined the Hadeland Lag and hope to find more information there. > I've also looked at the 1885 Dakota Census and sent for information on the > Molstad's in Traill County. I've also ordered a farm map of Hadeland. I've > certainly gotten a lot of great leads from this group. Thanks again.

Thank you to everyone who's sent me information in the last couple of days. I've now joined the Hadeland Lag and hope to find more information there. I've also looked at the 1885 Dakota Census and sent for information on the Molstad's in Traill County. I've also ordered a farm map of Hadeland. I've certainly gotten a lot of great leads from this group. Thanks again. Gwen Newborg, Portland, Or Webshots photos: http://community.webshots.com/user/gnewborg101

I noticed the name Listad..do you know if this is the same family that Kirsten Listad the famous woodcarver from the area is related to? My family is related to Kirsten Listad and your inquirer may be interested in information on him if it is the same family. -----Original Message----- From: Margit <margit@eot.com> To: NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com <NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, October 05, 2003 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [Oppland] Sor-Fron Parish >Hei Earl, >Glad to help when I can. >I find the following: (Appears to be your Julie, Eline and Anne!!) > ><http://draug.rhd.isv.uit.no/ftsoek/ftsoek.asp?kommando=bosted&ftaar= 1865&sp >raak=engelsk_britisk&kommnr=0519&kretsnr=001&bostnr=0018&leilnr=00> >* Census year: 1865 >* Municipality: Sør-Fron >* Municipality number: 0519 >* Name of domicile: Renshusløkken > >Number of persons in this domicile: 7. > >Name Family status Marital status Occupation Birth year Birth place >Ethnicity >Simen Pedersen Listad hf g Selveier Sergant 1822 Søndre Fron >Anne Tjerstina Olsdatter Hans Kone g 1820 Throndhjem >Anton Simensen Deres Søn ug 1851 Throndhjem >Marie Simensdatter Deres Datter ug 1853 Throndhjem >Juliæ Simensdatter Deres Datter ug 1856 Søndre Fron >Eline Simensdatter Deres Datter ug 1857 Søndre Fron >Anne Simensdatter Deres Datter ug 1863 Søndre Fron > > >> >> Julie Kirstine Simensdtr born 18 May 1856 in Listad (farm name?) Sor Fron. >> >> Eline Fredricka Simensdtr Listad born 27 March 1858 in Grav/Grove, Sor-Fron >> Parish, Oppland County. >> >> Ahne Serine Simensdtr Listad born 30 October 1863 in Renshuslokken, Sor-Fron. > > > >==== NOR-OPPLAND Mailing List ==== >Make sure you check out the other lists available here for Norway: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/ > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Jean, I have indeed seen the passage you refer to, but I'd forgotten that John was reportedly on his way to Tennessee when he died. I would appreciate it if you could check the history for the following relatives who also died in Benson: Agnes Ellsworth, later Agnes Aslakson -- Agnes was born Agnes Arnesen; she was the eldest child of Anthon Arnesen and the cousin of my grandfather, Herbert. Grace Lyle (sometimes Lyle Grace) Ellsworth, later Munson -- Grace was Agnes's only child. Mabel Williams (Mrs. Lewis G. Williams) -- Mabel was Anthon's second daughter. Grace Severn -- Grace was Anthon's third daughter. I actually doubt you'll find her, because I don't think she lived in Benson after her marriage (sometime before 1920). Thanks for your note, and I look forward to hearing from you again. Peter J. Arnesen

Hello All! I would like to take this time to welcome all those who have signed on for the Oppland Mail List and all those who are returning. parnesen@provide.net penncavga@alltel.net Please post your family information and questions if you wish and tell us who you are interested in researching in the Oppland area of Norway. Also, anyone from Norway who would like help searching their relatives in America, please let us know, we love to help and are very good at it when enough information is given about the emigrants from Norway. I am open to all suggestions or ideas for the betterment of the list. Contact me anytime. margit@eot.com The archives for the Nor-Oppland list are located here: <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NOR-OPPLAND.html> For those who are new to Norway research, there are also other lists available to join. You can find more information about them here: <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/> Visit site http://www.fellesraad.com/ Join a Lag today! I hope you all have a great Fall Season and much success in your searches for your family! Margit

For Gwen Newborg, There is a great site for Traill County, North Dakota research. It is under Rootsweb. There is census images, marriage records, pioneer names and more. I have tons of relatives/ancestors in that county. http://www.rootsweb.com/~ndtraill/ Renae Larson Phoenix, AZ NOR-OPPLAND-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >NOR-OPPLAND-D Digest Volume 03 : Issue 107 > >Today's Topics: > #1 [Oppland] Sor-Fron Parish ["Earl Reep" <ereep@whidbey.net>] > #2 Re: [Oppland] Sor-Fron Parish [Margit <margit@eot.com>] > #3 Re: [Oppland] Welcome to the Oppla ["Gwen" <genewborg@comcast.net>] > #4 [Oppland] Anthon Arnesen of Ringeb ["Peter J. Arnesen" <parnesen@provi] > #5 [Oppland] Re: Valhalla, Saskatchew [Garth Ulrich <gulrich@sasktel.net>] > #6 Re: [Oppland] Re: Valhalla, Saskat ["Gwen" <genewborg@comcast.net>] > #7 [Oppland] Welcome to the Oppland M [Margit <margit@eot.com>] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from NOR-OPPLAND-D, send a message to > > NOR-OPPLAND-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >To contact the NOR-OPPLAND-D list administrator, send mail to >NOR-OPPLAND-admin@rootsweb.com. > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > [Oppland] Sor-Fron Parish > From: > "Earl Reep" <ereep@whidbey.net> > Date: > Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:58:27 -0700 > To: > NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > >Margit > >I have come across some names for the siblings of my great grandmother. Some are from Trondhjeim, but the last three are from Sor-Fron Parish in Oppland County. Would you be able to obtain any source data for them. I will list their names and dates of birth. Appreciate any help you can provide in this matter. > >Julie Kirstine Simensdtr born 18 May 1856 in Listad (farm name?) Sor Fron. > >Eline Fredricka Simensdtr Listad born 27 March 1858 in Grav/Grove, Sor-Fron Parish, Oppland County. > >Ahne Serine Simensdtr Listad born 30 October 1863 in Renshuslokken, Sor-Fron. > >Earl Reep > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [Oppland] Sor-Fron Parish > From: > Margit <margit@eot.com> > Date: > Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:59:35 -0500 > To: > NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > >Hei Earl, >Glad to help when I can. >I find the following: (Appears to be your Julie, Eline and Anne!!) > ><http://draug.rhd.isv.uit.no/ftsoek/ftsoek.asp?kommando=bosted&ftaar=1865&sp >raak=engelsk_britisk&kommnr=0519&kretsnr=001&bostnr=0018&leilnr=00> >* Census year: 1865 >* Municipality: Sør-Fron >* Municipality number: 0519 >* Name of domicile: Renshusløkken > >Number of persons in this domicile: 7. > >Name Family status Marital status Occupation Birth year Birth place >Ethnicity >Simen Pedersen Listad hf g Selveier Sergant 1822 Søndre Fron >Anne Tjerstina Olsdatter Hans Kone g 1820 Throndhjem >Anton Simensen Deres Søn ug 1851 Throndhjem >Marie Simensdatter Deres Datter ug 1853 Throndhjem >Juliæ Simensdatter Deres Datter ug 1856 Søndre Fron >Eline Simensdatter Deres Datter ug 1857 Søndre Fron >Anne Simensdatter Deres Datter ug 1863 Søndre Fron > > > > >>Julie Kirstine Simensdtr born 18 May 1856 in Listad (farm name?) Sor Fron. >> >>Eline Fredricka Simensdtr Listad born 27 March 1858 in Grav/Grove, Sor-Fron >>Parish, Oppland County. >> >>Ahne Serine Simensdtr Listad born 30 October 1863 in Renshuslokken, Sor-Fron. >> >> > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [Oppland] Welcome to the Oppland Mail list > From: > "Gwen" <genewborg@comcast.net> > Date: > Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:42:17 -0700 > To: > NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > >Hello, I'm a newcomer to this list. I'm looking for information on my grandmother's family. Her name was Anna Molstad Newborg, and until just two weeks ago, we all thought she was from Honefoss, so I've been on the Buskerud list. I was just able to go thru a suitcase my cousin had in her basement and found a treasure trove of information about her. She was really born in Gran, Hadeland, Norway. Among the items I found were her vaccination record from 1866 with her parents names, which we also had wrong. Their names were John Johannesen and Ingeborg Olsdatter. My grandmother was born in 1861 and she had two brothers, Ole and Christian, and three sisters, Julie, Karen and Johanna. Thanks to Margit I was able to find their baptism records on line so I could get dates and godparents. Thru obituaries I found that Johanna came to Traill County, Dakota in 1877, and married an Anders Gunstad in Hillsboro, North Dakota in 1881. The rest of the family seems to have followe! d! >, my grandmother coming in 1882. Johanna had 9 children and lived most of her life in St. Hilaire, Minn. Karen married someone named Enger and lived in Lanesboro, Minn., at least in 1943, and Julia, who married an A. Hagen and lived in "Valhalla" Saskatchewan. I can't find a Valhalla in Saskatchewan currently, if anyone has heard of it, I'd appreciate any information. >My grandmother met her future husband in North Dakota, I think in Traill County, although his family lived in Buffalo, North Dakota for a while before moving west to Washington State. Her husband's name was Andrew (Andreas) Sypriansen Newborg, from Rødenes, Ostfold, Norway and they married in Seattle in 1889, and eventually moved to Yakima Washington. They had 7 seven children, including my father, Harold Newborg. >Although I've been looking for information about her for months, I only found this information in the last few weeks. I now have so much I haven't had time to put it in my computer! If anyone has any information about this family, I'd love to hear about it. I think I must have a ton of cousins in Minnesota and North Dakota I never knew existed before this Sept. > >Gwen Newborg, >Portland, Or >Webshots photos: http://community.webshots.com/user/gnewborg101 > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > [Oppland] Anthon Arnesen of Ringebu and Minnesota > From: > "Peter J. Arnesen" <parnesen@provide.net> > Date: > Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:45:30 -0400 > To: > NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > >Hello List, > >I've just joined at the invitation of Margit. I did a quick browse of the >archives, and noticed several messages from a certain Chris about Anthon >Arnesen of Ringebu and of Benson, Swift County, Minnesota. > >Anthon was the older brother of my great grandfather, John Arnesen. I know >quite a bit about him and his family (I spent two days at the Minnesota >Historical Society last month, and pulled quite a bit of info), but not as >much as I'd like. I do have his ancestry traced back to the 1600s, pictures >of his family in Benson, the birth dates of all his children, and the death >dates of most of them. I also know the names of the men married by his 3 >daughters who survived into adulthood, and the names of four of his >grandchildren. I'd be very interested in establishing contact with others >who are interested in Anthon, or any other members of the family. > >A quick note in passing. I noticed that someone pointed out that in >nineteenth century Norway Anthon would typically have been known as Anthon >Arnesen, since his father was Peder Arnesen. That's generally true, but my >great great grandfather, Peder Arnesen Bakke, appears to have adopted the >"modern" practice of treating his Arnesen patronymic as a permanent surname. >In the 1865 and 1875 censuses, his wife and children are all listed as >"Arnesen," and to the best of my recollection I've only noticed one instance >in the Ringebu kirkebøker where a member of the family was referred to as >"Pedersen." That happens to be the record of Anthon's confirmation on 6 May >1866, when he was referred to as Anthon Pedersen Arnesen Grav. > >Clearly, this was a manifestation of some ambiguity of how to refer to the >family, since Anthon bears "his own" patronymic of Pedersen, but also his >father's patronymic of Arnesen -- which I think we now have to regard as a >surname. Finally, he also bears the "farm address name" of Grav. At that >time, Grav was the farm assigned to support the kirkesanger of Ringebu >Church, a position that Peder Arnesen had held since 1863. The Grav >farmhouse is now in the "urban" part of Ringebu, where it is used as for >meetings of the Ringebu Lions Club. > >When Anthon emigrated from Norway in 1869, he was referred to as Anthon >Arnesen Grav. The following year the klokker's residence was shifted to the >farm of Halstead, where the house that my Arnesen ancestors lived in is >still occupied by a retired Ringebu teacher (my great great grandfather >taught in Ringebu from 1847 to 1890). > >Hoping to hear from somebody and to share information with them. > >Peter J. Arnesen > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > [Oppland] Re: Valhalla, Saskatchewan > From: > Garth Ulrich <gulrich@sasktel.net> > Date: > Mon, 06 Oct 2003 17:05:19 -0600 > To: > NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > >I do not know of a Valhalla in Saskatchewan, and none is listed on the National Archives of Canada website database of past and present post offices. There is however a Valhalla Centre in Alberta, and it seems that in the past there was also a post office with the name of Valhalla in the vicinity of Valhalla Centre. > >Regards, >Garth Ulrich >Saskatchewan > >Gwen wrote: > > > >>Julia, who married an A. Hagen and lived in "Valhalla" Saskatchewan. I can't find a Valhalla in Saskatchewan currently, if anyone has heard of it, I'd appreciate any information. >> >> > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [Oppland] Re: Valhalla, Saskatchewan > From: > "Gwen" <genewborg@comcast.net> > Date: > Mon, 6 Oct 2003 16:59:09 -0700 > To: > NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > >Thanks for the info. It didn't seem terribly likely. I'm wondering if it's a retirement home for old Norwegians! I'm going to try the older Canadian census's and also see if I can find out where she got married so I can find out her husband's name. >Gwen Newborg, >Portland, Or >Courtney, Extra-special Lhasa Apso >Sandy, Extra-special Pembroke Welsh Corgi >Mork, Mindy, Max, super cats > >Webshots photos: http://community.webshots.com/user/gnewborg101 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Garth Ulrich" <gulrich@sasktel.net> >To: <NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 4:05 PM >Subject: [Oppland] Re: Valhalla, Saskatchewan > > >I do not know of a Valhalla in Saskatchewan, and none is listed on the National Archives of Canada website database of past and present post offices. There is however a Valhalla Centre in Alberta, and it seems that in the past there was also a post office with the name of Valhalla in the vicinity of Valhalla Centre. > >Regards, >Garth Ulrich >Saskatchewan > >Gwen wrote: > > > >>Julia, who married an A. Hagen and lived in "Valhalla" Saskatchewan. I can't find a Valhalla in Saskatchewan currently, if anyone has heard of it, I'd appreciate any information. >> >> > > > >==== NOR-OPPLAND Mailing List ==== >Make sure you check out the other lists available here for Norway: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/ > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > [Oppland] Welcome to the Oppland Mail list > From: > Margit <margit@eot.com> > Date: > Mon, 06 Oct 2003 21:05:42 -0500 > To: > NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > >Hello All! >I would like to take this time to welcome all those who have signed on for >the Oppland Mail List and all those who are returning. > >parnesen@provide.net >penncavga@alltel.net > >Please post your family information and questions if you wish and tell us >who you are interested in researching in the Oppland area of Norway. 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Hello List, I've just joined at the invitation of Margit. I did a quick browse of the archives, and noticed several messages from a certain Chris about Anthon Arnesen of Ringebu and of Benson, Swift County, Minnesota. Anthon was the older brother of my great grandfather, John Arnesen. I know quite a bit about him and his family (I spent two days at the Minnesota Historical Society last month, and pulled quite a bit of info), but not as much as I'd like. I do have his ancestry traced back to the 1600s, pictures of his family in Benson, the birth dates of all his children, and the death dates of most of them. I also know the names of the men married by his 3 daughters who survived into adulthood, and the names of four of his grandchildren. I'd be very interested in establishing contact with others who are interested in Anthon, or any other members of the family. A quick note in passing. I noticed that someone pointed out that in nineteenth century Norway Anthon would typically have been known as Anthon Arnesen, since his father was Peder Arnesen. That's generally true, but my great great grandfather, Peder Arnesen Bakke, appears to have adopted the "modern" practice of treating his Arnesen patronymic as a permanent surname. In the 1865 and 1875 censuses, his wife and children are all listed as "Arnesen," and to the best of my recollection I've only noticed one instance in the Ringebu kirkebøker where a member of the family was referred to as "Pedersen." That happens to be the record of Anthon's confirmation on 6 May 1866, when he was referred to as Anthon Pedersen Arnesen Grav. Clearly, this was a manifestation of some ambiguity of how to refer to the family, since Anthon bears "his own" patronymic of Pedersen, but also his father's patronymic of Arnesen -- which I think we now have to regard as a surname. Finally, he also bears the "farm address name" of Grav. At that time, Grav was the farm assigned to support the kirkesanger of Ringebu Church, a position that Peder Arnesen had held since 1863. The Grav farmhouse is now in the "urban" part of Ringebu, where it is used as for meetings of the Ringebu Lions Club. When Anthon emigrated from Norway in 1869, he was referred to as Anthon Arnesen Grav. The following year the klokker's residence was shifted to the farm of Halstead, where the house that my Arnesen ancestors lived in is still occupied by a retired Ringebu teacher (my great great grandfather taught in Ringebu from 1847 to 1890). Hoping to hear from somebody and to share information with them. Peter J. Arnesen

I do not know of a Valhalla in Saskatchewan, and none is listed on the National Archives of Canada website database of past and present post offices. There is however a Valhalla Centre in Alberta, and it seems that in the past there was also a post office with the name of Valhalla in the vicinity of Valhalla Centre. Regards, Garth Ulrich Saskatchewan Gwen wrote: > Julia, who married an A. Hagen and lived in "Valhalla" Saskatchewan. I can't find a Valhalla in Saskatchewan currently, if anyone has heard of it, I'd appreciate any information.

Thanks for the info. It didn't seem terribly likely. I'm wondering if it's a retirement home for old Norwegians! I'm going to try the older Canadian census's and also see if I can find out where she got married so I can find out her husband's name. Gwen Newborg, Portland, Or Courtney, Extra-special Lhasa Apso Sandy, Extra-special Pembroke Welsh Corgi Mork, Mindy, Max, super cats Webshots photos: http://community.webshots.com/user/gnewborg101 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garth Ulrich" <gulrich@sasktel.net> To: <NOR-OPPLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 4:05 PM Subject: [Oppland] Re: Valhalla, Saskatchewan I do not know of a Valhalla in Saskatchewan, and none is listed on the National Archives of Canada website database of past and present post offices. There is however a Valhalla Centre in Alberta, and it seems that in the past there was also a post office with the name of Valhalla in the vicinity of Valhalla Centre. Regards, Garth Ulrich Saskatchewan Gwen wrote: > Julia, who married an A. Hagen and lived in "Valhalla" Saskatchewan. I can't find a Valhalla in Saskatchewan currently, if anyone has heard of it, I'd appreciate any information. ==== NOR-OPPLAND Mailing List ==== Make sure you check out the other lists available here for Norway: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237