This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hcC.2ACE/1340.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Yes, the date of enumeration for each of those census is important to be able to calculate a birth year. You also have to consider that it is quite common for age to be given wrongly by the member of the family trying to answer the enumerator's questions. The five men I mentioned were possible matches for the father - not the son. None of those was expected to be a match for the 'baby' Nils. Without the date correction for the christening, it was sitll possible that the child wasn't born until shortly after the 1865 census - therefore I wanted to consider all the possible father candidates and look at the farms where they were residing. A child born in 1865 would be recorded as age 1 in the Norwegian census of 31 Dec 1865. Given the matches to both the father and mother that the original poster presented - consider again the family living on Vigen. http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=10&filnamn=f60544&gardpostnr=129&sokefelt=skjul

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hcC.2ACE/1340.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Earlier postings by 'HRHpar' provide some interesting conflicts of info. For example: 1900 census he is 34, so birth year would have been 1866. 1910 census he is 42, so birth year would have been 1868. 1920 census he is 53, so birth year would have been 1867. What was the date of enumeration for these census reports? None of these match your 1865 birth info. 'HRHpar' also refers to five people with that name, but married/or/of age. These would not match your 'baby' Nils born in 1965. You mention that your birth/christening dates were found in FamilySearch. Do you have ANY document in the USA (naturalization / marriage certificate / death certificate / etc.) giving his age/birth date? I have a 'gut feeling' we may be looking at the wrong person in 1865. Clark

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hcC.2ACE/1340.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Looking at Emigrants from Øystre Slidre, I find NO ONE by this name during the 1887-1916 period. ----- Source information: Oppland county, Volbu in Øystre Slidre, Parish register (official) nr. 5 (1887-1916), Emigration records 1887-1914, page 68. Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1528&idx_id=1528&uid=ny&idx_side=-61 Permanent imagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051103021481.jpg ----- Could he have emigrated to another area before 1887 and then emigrate to the USA in 1891? Possible... I checked out your FamilySearch (using IGI) and did not find Nils born on your given date. I must be doing something wrong. Clark

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Gulbrand, Gulbrandsen, Roine, Royne Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hcC.2ACE/1340.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Clark, Thanks for your interest in my inquiry. The 1867 christening date I posted was incorrect - it should have been April 2, 1865, which was less than one month after the birth. I found the birth and christening at the following website: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp Best wishes, Gary [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hcC.2ACE/1340.3 Message Board Post: 1900 US census - 34 yr old N.G. Royne (single, cook) in precinct 2 Tacoma, Pierce Co. Washington. Lists immigration as 1892. 1910 US census - 42 yr old Nels G. Royne (married, waiter) in precinct 7 Tacoma, Pierce Co. Washington. Immigration 1891. 1920 US census - 53 yr old Nels G. Royne (married, insurance agent) in 4-58 precinct? Tacoma, Pierce Co. Washington. Immigration 1891. Nils Røine leaves from Oslo/Kristiania on or about 13 March 1891 - http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=41&filnamn=emikra1&gardpostnr=114296&sokefelt=skjul

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hcC.2ACE/1340.2 Message Board Post: The family living on Vigen farm in the 1865 Norwegian census for Østre Slidre (Hegge parish), Oppland? - http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=10&filnamn=f60544&gardpostnr=129&sokefelt=skjul Østre Slidre parish records have been copied to microfilm and are available for rental/use at any LDS Family History Center. The online LDS library catalog indicates that they have the years 1814-1927 available for Østre Slidre and that earlier records are recorded under the Vestre Slidre clerical district. The 1865 census indicates at least 5 men by name like 'Gulbrand Nils.' (married or of marriageable age) so compare records carefully. That census also indicates a couple of local farms by the name of 'Røine' - perhaps coincidence that another male by the name of Nils Gulbrands. lives on one of them with his widowed mother Sigri Ols. (But he is 19 yrs old in 1865.) A bygdebøk for Østre Slidre, Oppland - "Garder og slekter i Øystre Slidre", 2? volumes by Geir Beitrusten. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/articles.html

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hcC.2ACE/1340.1 Message Board Post: Gary, I'd like to inquire about the source of your information, because it is extremely unusual to have been baptized/christened TWO YEARS after birth. I'd find 3-4 babies - Nils Gulbrandsen - from Oppland, born to Gulbrand and Sigri (however, the parents' family / patronymics are different). Have a nice day! Clark in Japan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Gulbrand, Gulbrandsen Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hcC.2ACE/1340 Message Board Post: Seeking information about Nils Gulbrandsen, born February 22, 1865 in Ostre Slidre, Oppland, Norway and christened April 2, 1867 in Ostre Slidre, Oppland, Norway. The father of Nils Gulbrandsen was Gulbrand Nilsen and his mother was Sigri Nilsdr. I believe that this Nils Gulbrandsen came to the USA about 1891 and settled in Tacoma, Washington in 1900. His name in America was Nils Gulbrandsen Röine (altered to Royne) so perhaps he was connected to the place called Røn in Oppland. In 1906 Nils married Ingeborg Thomasdatter Kvale who was also born in Norway (in 1870) and came to the US about 1888. Nils and Ingeborg Royne were my wife's great grandfparents and she is interested in learning more about her Norwegian family and heritage. Thank you for any help you can provide. Gary N. Phillips Tacoma, Washington USA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Johan and Marie (Olsen) Lee family wants to find Living relatives in Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hcC.2ACE/1339.1.1 Message Board Post: Yes, thank you for 1865 census. I could never really find them on Digital Archives. Much appreciated both people that sent it to me. Now from this information on Marie, who could I contact in Norway for the next step? Joan

Hello, Have you contacted city hall at Lanesboro to see who is the local historian ? It is a very small town. I see by typing in Lanesboro MN in "google" that there are many web sites on the town. It is known for being a favorite of Minnesotans who like to bike ride on the Root River Trails. Beautiful scenery in that area of Mn. There is a Lanesboro museum .Many parents ride the trials with their children. The Root River Valley is a wonderful area of Minnesota with the Root River running through the town of Lanesboro. The SE portion of Minnesota is unbelieveably beautiuful. Barb of Minnesota

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hcC.2ACE/1339.2 Message Board Post: I suggest that you place this under Akershus also. They lived around many places in Akershus Just Marie came from Oppland. Kåre

Apparently not. I hadn't checked for completeness. You can also download the 1886 Land Register for Oppland (and for all fylker) in the form of zipped Excel files from the Norwegian Historical Data Centre (NHDC) at http://www.rhd.uit.no/matrikkel/excel.html . (I haven't checked that for completeness either.) Greg Holter ----- Original Message ----- > Evidently the farms in Skjåk are not included? > John >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hcC.2ACE/1339.1 Message Board Post: Just the census 1865 (Prinsdalbraat.) http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0218&kenr=019&bnr=0044&lnr=000 Kåre

Evidently the farms in Skjåk are not included? John Gregory Holter <[email protected]> wrote: Listers, Someone has been kind enough to provide lists of the farms in Oppland fylke at http://snipurl.com/wiit Greg Holter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hcC.2ACE/1338.2 Message Board Post: Maybe Marie Mart............. in census 1865 http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0528&kenr=001&bnr=0023&lnr=000 Kåre

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Johan and Marie (Olsen) Lee Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hcC.2ACE/1339 Message Board Post: ....Johan Olsen changed name to John Olsen Lee after arrival in MN before moving on to [email protected] 1883 .....Birthdate and birthplace----Johan was born in June 22, 1848 place Ekornrud, Oppegaard, Akershus, Norway ... .Johan’s parents were Ole Jacobsen and Karen Gurine Eriksdatter. (Pike?) Karen born Stubbelianbruket, Aker and father was Erik Johansen. Married 26 Dec 1847 , Aker, Oslo Ole (1830) Aas to Krogstad (18 years); (1842) Krogstad to Nesodden (28);(1855) Nesodden to Aas and too; (1862) Aas to Nesodden with familiy;(1864) Nesodden to Prinsdalsbraaten,wife and 2 children. .....Johan's siblings 1865 Census, Prinsdalsbraaten, Hauketo. Ole, age 52, Karen age 43, Maren age 13,and Ludvig age 9 born Aas. In 1874, Carl Martin Olsen accompanies Marie to America age 24. ...Spouse(s) Marie Martinsdatter Olsen Hagen Olsen changed her name to Marie Hagen Lee. Marie Martinsdatter Olsen Hagen Lee was born 25 August 1851 place Oppegaard, Ostre Toten, Oppland, Norway. Married to Johan 22 June 1848, Ekornrud, Oppegaard. ...... Son, Olaf, born in Svingen, Oslo, Norway area Dec 1972. ....... Farm names I have found are "Fjelhougsten and Fjorkenstad". Emigration Date........ Johan’s date unknown. Marie sailed (353085) Oslo Passport on June 17, 1871 with Carl Martin Olsen age 24 (Johan’s brother), Marie age 23 and her son Olaf Martinsen ¾ years, .......Emigrated to Lanesboro, MN. Port of entry unknown ......Specific location(s) where person lived........ Fillmore County, Lanesboro, MN and on to Barnes County, Nome, ND in 1882-3 .....Johan May have been in Norway Military. Marie’s parents were Martin Olsen and Helene Hagensdatter, but they came to MN some unknown time and died and buried in St Petrie Cemetery, Nome, ND, as Martin and Helene Olsen. No known info on them. They are all buried in Nome. ......The resources I have already searched are Ancestry.com and Vesterheim Museum, Madison, WI. visited and received birth, marriage, passport, marriage banns records. Great visit and lots of info. ......What I would like to find out....... Before our trip to Norway next year, we hope to find living relatives

Listers, Someone has been kind enough to provide lists of the farms in Oppland fylke at http://snipurl.com/wiit Greg Holter

Does anyone have the first wife of Ole Andersen Hippe/Sæter ? Ole Andersen Hippe was born in 1692 and died on 17 March 1764. On 2 April 1744, Ole married Kari Tollefsdatter Kjornes, born in 1724 to Tollef Halvordssen Kjornes and died in April 1795, as his second wife. Children of Ole Andersen Hippe/Sæter and ???????: · Anders Olsen Sæter, b: ca 1725 Children of Ole Andersen Hippe/Sæter and Kari Tollefsdatter Kjornes: · Aslak Olsen Sæter, b: 11 Oct 1761, d: 27 May 1832, m: Joran Olsdatter Ringsaker In 1747, Ole rented Sæter farm. The Kjornes farm is right next door in Nordre Aurdal, Valdres. Anders Olsen took over the farm in 1761. Thanks, Jerry

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hcC.2ACE/1338.1 Message Board Post: Joan, Please give all information you know about them. Here is a good site that tells how to write a query: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wgnorway/good-queries.htm Margit

http://people.mnhs.org/bci/?CFID=2399904&CFTOKEN=53662319 This Index currently covers the years 1900-1919. Recent Updates 1917-1919 has recently been added, and additional years will be added to the database as they become available.