This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/wd3.2ACIB/958.2 Message Board Post: I don't see them in LaSalle in 1880 ... you need them in 1880 for those (inevitable) additional children .... (familysearch.org - newly listed census). I see Nolans in LaSalle born in Ireland, no Pat or Liz ... do you know where they are buried, or any dates of death? Here is a Chicago family - -the only one where an Eliz. is in a household headed by Pat, both born in IRE .... how do these given names compare with your John's childrens' names? Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Pat NOLAN Self M Male W 36 IRE Laborer IRE IRE Bettie NOLAN Wife M Female W 36 IRE Keeping House IRE IRE Mary Ann NOLAN Dau S Female W 15 IRE At School IRE IRE James NOLAN Son S Male W 13 IRE At School IRE IRE Susan NOLAN Dau S Female W 12 IRE At School IRE IRE Charles NOLAN Son S Male W 11 IRE At School IRE IRE Patrick NOLAN Son S Male W 10 IRE At School IRE IRE Katie NOLAN Dau S Female W 2 IL IRE IRE Mary GALLIGAN Other W Female W 65 IRE Keeping House IRE IRE -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Census Place Chicago, Cook, Illinois Family History Library Film 1254191 NA Film Number T9-0191 Page Number 390A ******************************************************************** LaSalle Co genie page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illasall/ Here are the catholic churches -- I would email someone at the genie society and see which one is closest to Waltham and find their bapt. records: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illasall/churches.html Genie Society: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illcgg/ There doesn't look to be a Catholic Cemetery in Waltham: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illcgg/ Kate in Chicago