Sorry. I meant to post this to the list. As I discovered, Reply sends a response to a person who posted; Reply All sends a response to the list and to the individual who posted. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Bellomo" <susanbellomo@yahoo.com> To: "jcnreno" <jcnreno@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [NMGENWEB] Professional Elections Every volunteer has the right to ask questions and make requests. When "requests" are not met, taking it to the national level as a demand for action and doing what the requestor deems is right does not foster cooperation, and it certainly creates stress for people involved. It is my opinion that more people do not enter into discussion because they do not have an interest in politics and they do not want to get involved in interchanges that have involved threats of lawsuits in the past. Intentions and effects are not the same thing. It is one thing to express an opinion and make a request. It is another to make demands and escalate them when no one else has expressed consensus. I've only been around since late 1996 or early 1997 when I took over Otero County. The Wild Bunch in NMGenWeb, in my opinion (based on the 9 years I've communicated with our volunteers) prefers to limit the bureaucratic underpinnings of the organization in order to use time and energy to help researchers and to put available information on line. The request has been made and noted. Now, let's get back to New Mexico genealogy on the list. One of the things I love most about our volunteers is the wide variety of talents we have and the amazing contributions we have made! Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "jcnreno" <jcnreno@sbcglobal.net> To: <NMGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [NMGENWEB] Professional Elections Not so Angela, I always respected Leon. When he had his heart attack the bylaws called for an election. I wanted an election according to the bylaws. It's that simple. After he regained his strength he could have run for office again but he choose not to do so. Had he run for office I would have voted for him. You will have to find another villain. I did not cause Leon's heart attack. Clogged arteries from cholesterol buildup cause heart attacks. His decision not to run again was his alone. He was not in the habit of asking anyone for permission. Again, the Bylaws are very clear. When an SC can no longer serve, an election must be held. Those are not my rules, they are the rules of USGenWeb. There is an AB member on this email list, anyone might ask her to explain this. It is not strange that I praise Leon, I have the up most respect for him. We exchanged a number of private emails that you are not aware. He helped me in many ways. As for voting, in my opinion there is no election if there is no vote. It's an American thing. If you do not like to vote, then don't vote, but do not deny me the right to vote. Susan did a great job too, but I objected to the lack of structure in our elections. I object that we were not allowed to vote for the SC. As a CC I have a right to express my concerns about elections. I will continue to do so. This does not mean I am biased toward any particular person. No, I will not run for state office. That is my decision, it is not up to others to decide that. But yes, I will continue to express my concerns. I think it would be appropriate to list Leon Moya's name on the State page with his dates of service since he played an important part in creating NMGenWeb. I hereby formally make that motion now. Feel free to vote against or for this motion. Thanks for your input, Angela. Feel free to launch personal attacks against me anytime. I will not respond in kind, however. Thank you for expressing them on this forum intended for NMGenWeb business. Have a wonderful day. Charles Barnum Angela Lewis <gen4nm@nmia.com> wrote: Good morning everyone -- Most of the CC's on this list have been around a lot longer than me, so I'm sure you know what happened before Leon got the position of State Coordinator for NMGenWeb. I came after he was already SC as I was one of his recruits, and that was in mid 1999. Charles, you seem to forget that you ran Leon out of office. True, he wasn't managing the helm at the time but that's because he was recuperating from a quadruple heart bypass in April 2000. While Leon was out, Capt Pat stepped up to the plate and took care of things, and that's when I got really involved as I was taking care of all the queries coming at state level. How strange to read your notes of praise for Leon. In fact, I'm going to send him your particular email because that'll probably give him a chuckle and lift his spirits. And yes, I'm still quite close with Leon and we still keep in touch. Then came the professional election that was held, complete with an election committee of which I was a member. Everything was done on the up and up, open and honest with all members. Susan was the only person who ran for the State Coordinator's position and was elected. You raised all kinds of commotion before, during and after this election for all kinds of reasons, and then you wanted a vote anyway. Gee Charles, with nobody else running that just doesn't make any sense and I really don't care what kind of rule book you pull out of history. Speaking on behalf of many, I'm glad somebody ran for the position!!! Susan did a great job during her tenure and after her term ended, the next professional election was held, and the same thing happened. This time, Karen was the only person who ran for the position. Same results from you. Everybody else in NMGenWeb has always been pleased with the leadership, and the laid back way of doing business. So many of your emails want that, yet in other emails you're demanding rules. Charles, I suggest you read your emails thoroughly before you send them out as you continuously contradict yourself. I had told you once that I would get into the issues, but frankly this time I felt that I needed to. Like I said, I haven't been around as long as many of you, but I've been around long enough to have a memory of your accusations and conduct towards Leon, Susan, and now Karen. I recommend that you either run for office the next time (which you continue to insist that you don't want) or quit giving the incumbents such a hard time. Thanks for listening, Angela NMGenWeb Bernalillo NMGenWeb San Miguel