Good morning all, I think the suggestion from Pat was a really good one. There's not much reason to have queries posted out there if the email address is wrong and people can't get in touch with the Query poster. In a perfect world we really should go through our Query pages and update them for the optimum benefit of our researchers. With that said, and notice I said "in a perfect world", I just have to many projects going on to do this. Right now I'm sitting on over a thousand photos from one of my Counties that I need to process, which will take me quite a bit of time, plus we have two other projects going on that I need to keep up with. So this is also beyond my capacity to do at this time. Angela, I truly appreciate you going through the State Queries and finding the bad addresses so I can remove them. And I'm sure our researchers, like Pat, will appreciate it also. I love suggestions coming in to the List. We may not all be able to do it right now, but it's thoughts and ideas that we can keep in mind for when we do have some downtime. And please all of you remember that these are "suggestions" not "requirements" by any means. But I have been in Pat's shoes many times. So I would like to suggest that if you find a Query that you know the answer to, send a test message to that person before you do any research, verifying the address first. Have a great day, Karen

Hi everyone -- Since this past weekend, I've been sending out about 10 emails a night. Yes, they're time consuming but I want to get it done. I've got all the surname listing emails sent out (for Bernalillo), and a good portion of them have already rejected. Now I'll be starting on the queries that are posted on the site. I guess it's because I'm one of those that does lookups for others all the time...I'm listed on genealogy sites all over the place. There's been many times that I've done the same thing as this Pat....prepared a response only to have it come back to me. Arrrgggghhh. When I first started co-hosting San Miguel county with Susan, one of the first things i did was send a quick "form letter" email to every query listed -- five pages -- and ended up with about 20 and of those I was able to "close" out almost half of them with the records I have at home. So that's what I'll be doing next with Bernalillo county. However, I am single and it's just me and my dog, and I don't have half the responsibilities that many of you have so I'm able to do this. You're right Harold about the underwear comment! Angela

The idea sounds good, but I don't have time to do it. Perhaps if I delete all queries that are older than one year old it would be manageable. The idea of inviting people to include a mailing address is a good one. Some are hesitant to post their mailing address on the Internet, though. The invalid e-mail addresses have made me consider linking to the free Ancestry.com message boards and discontinuing doing live queries altogether. If someone writes to tell me an e-mail link doesn't work, I remove the query. Susan Stockbridge Bellomo susanbellomo at yahoo dot com NMGenWeb County Coordinator: Chaves, Otero Co-Coordinator (Webmaster): San Miguel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Kilmer" <hkilmer@plateautel.net> To: <NMGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [NMGENWEB] From one of our researchers Hello NM Wild bunch: This is out of the question for me to do. The above is my opinion; below is the reason if you want to read it. I have considered placing on my Query instructions that the researcher should also include a snail mail mailing address, One out of a three hundred do any way. This would leave an address for those who think it is important for people to contact them. (If you have searched at the state archives libraries you will remember that there are register books of people who was searching for their lines many years ago. I share this from my experience with Kansas, Missouri, Illinois, Oklahoma, North Carolina, Tennessee and Arkansas state libraries. You could write to some of those people and get lucky. I did.) Some people on the internet change their servers like they change their underwear and they think nothing of it. I can not think how checking your query list would work for the people who are using the Rootsweb automatic query systems. I post all Queries by hand and have had some people who have changed e-mail servers contact me and ask me to update their addresses on their queries. I do this. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Harold Kilmer, Coordinator for Curry, De Baca, Guadalupe, Lea, Quay and Roosevelt Counties in the great state of New Mexico. All of these counties are linked to: http://rootsweb.com/~nmcurry/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Mitchell" <km1109@aculink.net> To: <NMGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:06 AM Subject: [NMGENWEB] From one of our researchers > >I would like to make a suggestion to you regarding the queries posted on >>the NMGenWeb. Today I tried answering two from the Santa Fe site and they >>both came back as undeliverable. This has happened to me before. I >>think that at least once a year the county coordinator would write an >>e-mail to the person who posted the query simply asking if they are still >>looking for the information. Then if the e-mail address isn't valid any >>longer, the coordinator should delete the e-mail message. >> >>I realize that this makes a lot of work for the coordinator however it is >>so frustrating to get on and see something that you can help with only to >>have your e-mail bounce. >> >> >>Pat > > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Hello NM Wild bunch: This is out of the question for me to do. The above is my opinion; below is the reason if you want to read it. I have considered placing on my Query instructions that the researcher should also include a snail mail mailing address, One out of a three hundred do any way. This would leave an address for those who think it is important for people to contact them. (If you have searched at the state archives libraries you will remember that there are register books of people who was searching for their lines many years ago. I share this from my experience with Kansas, Missouri, Illinois, Oklahoma, North Carolina, Tennessee and Arkansas state libraries. You could write to some of those people and get lucky. I did.) Some people on the internet change their servers like they change their underwear and they think nothing of it. I can not think how checking your query list would work for the people who are using the Rootsweb automatic query systems. I post all Queries by hand and have had some people who have changed e-mail servers contact me and ask me to update their addresses on their queries. I do this. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Harold Kilmer, Coordinator for Curry, De Baca, Guadalupe, Lea, Quay and Roosevelt Counties in the great state of New Mexico. All of these counties are linked to: http://rootsweb.com/~nmcurry/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Mitchell" <km1109@aculink.net> To: <NMGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:06 AM Subject: [NMGENWEB] From one of our researchers > >I would like to make a suggestion to you regarding the queries posted on >>the NMGenWeb. Today I tried answering two from the Santa Fe site and they >>both came back as undeliverable. This has happened to me before. I >>think that at least once a year the county coordinator would write an >>e-mail to the person who posted the query simply asking if they are still >>looking for the information. Then if the e-mail address isn't valid any >>longer, the coordinator should delete the e-mail message. >> >>I realize that this makes a lot of work for the coordinator however it is >>so frustrating to get on and see something that you can help with only to >>have your e-mail bounce. >> >> >>Pat > > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

>I would like to make a suggestion to you regarding the queries posted on >the NMGenWeb. Today I tried answering two from the Santa Fe site and they >both came back as undeliverable. This has happened to me before. I >think that at least once a year the county coordinator would write an >e-mail to the person who posted the query simply asking if they are still >looking for the information. Then if the e-mail address isn't valid any >longer, the coordinator should delete the e-mail message. > >I realize that this makes a lot of work for the coordinator however it is >so frustrating to get on and see something that you can help with only to >have your e-mail bounce. > > >Pat

This is so special Angela, thank you for sharing this with us. We work and put out so much effort to do what we do, it's nice to know we are so appreciated. I'm happy that you could find some information to help Patti. I also hope this inspires some of our other CC's to do the same, go through your sites and see if there's some people you can make contact with. You all are also welcome to go through the State Queries for unknown Counties, to see if you recognize the names and can help these folks out. I know they would appreciate it also. Have a wonderful day! Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela Lewis" <gen4nm@nmia.com> To: <NMGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 9:00 PM Subject: [NMGENWEB] Why do we volunteer? Hi everyone, I wanted to share something....these kinds of "thanks" are few and far between, and this one was especially enjoyable. Anyway, this past weekend I sent out a "standard message" to all the people who had surnames posted in NMGenWeb Bernalillo county, and told them I would be doing it every 6 months. I also asked these people to write a little paragraph telling me who they were searching for. This project needed to get done, as it's important to keep the email addresses verified. Patti wrote back right away, and I decided to research the people she had listed. I found them, and took her back a few generations. Below is her response. These kind of responses make all of this volunteer stuff worth it. Still smiling, Angela Lewis NMGenWeb Bernalillo County NMGenWeb San Miguel County Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 13:54:41 EST Subject: Re: Surname Listing - NMGenWeb Bernalillo County To: gen4nm@nmia.com Angela, When I read this my daughter asked me what was wrong cause I just got watery eyed. What a wimp I am. I have been searching and asking family for clues and in one email, well I do not know what to say but THANK YOU!! This means more to me than you will ever know. If I can be of any help if you have New England ancestors please let me know. If you find anything further please let me know. Thank you again Patti Sanda ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Hi everyone, I wanted to share something....these kinds of "thanks" are few and far between, and this one was especially enjoyable. Anyway, this past weekend I sent out a "standard message" to all the people who had surnames posted in NMGenWeb Bernalillo county, and told them I would be doing it every 6 months. I also asked these people to write a little paragraph telling me who they were searching for. This project needed to get done, as it's important to keep the email addresses verified. Patti wrote back right away, and I decided to research the people she had listed. I found them, and took her back a few generations. Below is her response. These kind of responses make all of this volunteer stuff worth it. Still smiling, Angela Lewis NMGenWeb Bernalillo County NMGenWeb San Miguel County Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 13:54:41 EST Subject: Re: Surname Listing - NMGenWeb Bernalillo County To: gen4nm@nmia.com Angela, When I read this my daughter asked me what was wrong cause I just got watery eyed. What a wimp I am. I have been searching and asking family for clues and in one email, well I do not know what to say but THANK YOU!! This means more to me than you will ever know. If I can be of any help if you have New England ancestors please let me know. If you find anything further please let me know. Thank you again Patti Sanda

Hi everyone, I would like to announce that Angela Lewis has now taken over Bernalillo County. THANK YOU Angela! I'm sure you'll do a wonderful job with it. Karen

Welcome Karen to your new job. I was going to say "Out with the old and In with the new" but someone would take exception to it. :o) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Harold Kilmer, Coordinator for Curry, De Baca, Guadalupe, Lea, Quay and Roosevelt Counties in the great state of New Mexico. All of these counties are linked to: http://rootsweb.com/~nmcurry/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Mitchell" <km1109@aculink.net> To: <NMGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [NMGENWEB] January check-in (better late than never) > Good morning everyone! > It's a beautiful day here in the Colorado mountains and I hope it is where > you are also. > > Thank you so very much Susan for the warm welcome, I do appreciate it. At > this time, on behalf of all the NM CC's, I would like to thank you for > all > of your work and efforts during your term as New Mexico SC. You have been > appreciated, and I look forward to continued correspondence with you. I > have > to wonder if you will be taking time out now to work on your own family > lines (smile). > > I will be sending my opening statement to the List sometime this weekend. > Again, my thanks and appreciation, > Karen Mitchell > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Bellomo" <susanbellomo@yahoo.com> > To: <NMGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 6:17 AM > Subject: [NMGENWEB] January check-in (better late than never) > > > Happy 2006 and congratulations, Karen! Welcome to our new SC! > > Susan Stockbridge Bellomo > susanbellomo at yahoo dot com > NMGenWeb County Coordinator: Chaves, Otero > Co-Coordinator (Webmaster): San Miguel > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Good morning everyone! It's a beautiful day here in the Colorado mountains and I hope it is where you are also. Thank you so very much Susan for the warm welcome, I do appreciate it. At this time, on behalf of all the NM CC's, I would like to thank you for all of your work and efforts during your term as New Mexico SC. You have been appreciated, and I look forward to continued correspondence with you. I have to wonder if you will be taking time out now to work on your own family lines (smile). I will be sending my opening statement to the List sometime this weekend. Again, my thanks and appreciation, Karen Mitchell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Bellomo" <susanbellomo@yahoo.com> To: <NMGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 6:17 AM Subject: [NMGENWEB] January check-in (better late than never) Happy 2006 and congratulations, Karen! Welcome to our new SC! Susan Stockbridge Bellomo susanbellomo at yahoo dot com NMGenWeb County Coordinator: Chaves, Otero Co-Coordinator (Webmaster): San Miguel ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Happy 2006 and congratulations, Karen! Welcome to our new SC! Susan Stockbridge Bellomo susanbellomo at yahoo dot com NMGenWeb County Coordinator: Chaves, Otero Co-Coordinator (Webmaster): San Miguel

Angela--Sounds like a great idea to me! Kathy R.

Hi Karen, I'd like to make a suggestion please. I've been thinking of some type of directory for the front page of NMGenWeb. There's a lot of good stuff within the counties that would be helpful to everybody else. For example, look at the items listed on the Hildalgo County page. Extracting some of these: - Locating Catholic Church Records in NM - NM Vital Records - NM Death Index Then, there's info on Harold's pages containing maps and other links that is super! Anyway, these type of links would be helpful to the person visiting NMGenWeb as they cover all of NM and not just a particular county. Thanks! Angela San Miguel County At 07:26 PM 1/3/2006, Karen Mitchell wrote: >Good evening to all the New Mexico CC's! >Susan is out of town on an emergency situation so we haven't really done the >switch over for the State pages yet. She should be home by next week and >hopefully we can get things rolling at that time. > >For now, as your new SC, I would like to know if you have any suggestions, >questions, situations, or critiques that you would like to bring to my >attention. You may email me on the List or privately, whichever you prefer. > >Thank you, >Karen Mitchell > > > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Good evening to all the New Mexico CC's! Susan is out of town on an emergency situation so we haven't really done the switch over for the State pages yet. She should be home by next week and hopefully we can get things rolling at that time. For now, as your new SC, I would like to know if you have any suggestions, questions, situations, or critiques that you would like to bring to my attention. You may email me on the List or privately, whichever you prefer. Thank you, Karen Mitchell

Eddy Co. Happy New Year to all. Richard

As I sit here contemplating the roads we have walked this year and the horizons we hope to see in the New Year my thoughts go astray to each individual that has touched my life this year. My wish for each of you is that in this new year you will find peace and contentment, that you will each reach out to someone new in your lives and give them a helping hand with absolutely no thought of recompense, that you will heal any old hurts that have passed through your lives that are unresolved, that you will smile at strangers and hug the people you know and love, that you will say "I love you" often and with sincerity. I wish for you the opportunity to point out the sparkle of the stars to a child that is afraid of the dark, and the opportunity to open a door for an elderly or assist them across the street. I wish for you the ability to drop a handful of change into a homeless persons hand with no thought of what they may do with it, knowing that it's not their deeds that are important, but yours. I hope that each and every one of you have the opportunity to work with someone that needs a "ME attitude" turned into an "US attitude". Because in wishing these things for your new year, and striving to meet these small goals I know you will receive the serenity that will fulfill your lives. Each of you have touched my life in various ways and I am ever so thankful that you have come into my life, to encourage me to keep striving, to keep going, to do what no one else wants to do, to comfort me in MY time of need. I truly thank you for this, you've made my life so much fuller and so much more enjoyable. It doesn't matter if we are serious in looking for our ancestors, or if we are joking around just having fun, my life has been richer because of you. THANK YOU. And I hope I have added at least a small degree of happiness to your life also. I look forward to working with each one of you in the new year and hope we can help each other, regardless of the need. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL, Karen Taos County up and running also!

Hidalgo and Grant too! Pat -----Original Message----- From: Harold Kilmer [mailto:hkilmer@plateautel.net] Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 7:58 PM To: NMGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NMGENWEB] Happy New Year! , January 1st, 2006 check in. Curry, De Baca, Guadalupe, Lea, Quay and Roosevelt Counties are ready and running. 2006 has got to be better than the last two years have been. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Harold Kilmer, Coordinator for Curry, De Baca, Guadalupe, Lea, Quay and Roosevelt Counties in the great state of New Mexico. All of these counties are linked to: http://rootsweb.com/~nmcurry/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela Lewis" <gen4nm@nmia.com> To: <NMGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 6:42 PM Subject: [NMGENWEB] Happy New Year! > Hello everyone! > > Best wishes for a joyous, prosperous and healthy New Year! > > Angela Lewis > San Miguel County > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/217 - Release Date: 12/30/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/217 - Release Date: 12/30/2005

Curry, De Baca, Guadalupe, Lea, Quay and Roosevelt Counties are ready and running. 2006 has got to be better than the last two years have been. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Harold Kilmer, Coordinator for Curry, De Baca, Guadalupe, Lea, Quay and Roosevelt Counties in the great state of New Mexico. All of these counties are linked to: http://rootsweb.com/~nmcurry/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela Lewis" <gen4nm@nmia.com> To: <NMGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 6:42 PM Subject: [NMGENWEB] Happy New Year! > Hello everyone! > > Best wishes for a joyous, prosperous and healthy New Year! > > Angela Lewis > San Miguel County > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Hello everyone! Best wishes for a joyous, prosperous and healthy New Year! Angela Lewis San Miguel County

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