Hi, Wild Bunch. I received a photo of a New Mexico Court House from someone who wanted to know which county it is in. She said the Courthouse Clerk's name was Keener. I'm trying to get a date for Keener's tenure. The court house is red brick with a dome (not green like ours in Chaves County) and tall, cement pillars on the front and side of the building that I can see. Would anyone like to take a look to see whether you can identify it? Please e-mail me privately and I'll send you the reduced-size photo I made. (The file was sent to me as a large 500+kb file, so I reduced the file size to about 61kb. ) susanbellomo@yahoo.com Thanks! Susan

FYI. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "W David Samuelsen" <dsam@sampubco.com> To: <USGENWEB-SW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 2:24 AM Subject: [USGenWeb-SW] Congress on fast track to restriction on records (permission is granted to circulate to other lists to encourage responses by subscribers to write letters to their Congress representatives.- David Samuelsen) How many of you are aware of Congress is on very fast track to severely restrict access to birth records??? Here's what it says for benefit of those who doesn't subscribe to the ADN . Chapter 2 in the bill, "Improved Security for Birth Certificates" is where the problem is as stated by the FGS and NGS (remember we discussed booth at the FGS conference in Sept 2005?)(NGS will be in Nashville May 2005. I learned of this from another list.... http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library/article.aspx?article=dailynews Oct 7, 2004 issue - THAT IS TODAY! Those who subscribe to Ancestry_Daily_News probably will see the item article. Plese note that the bill's sponsor is Dennis Hastert who is the SPEAKER of the House of Representatives. He has the power to ram the bill to his heart's desire. - David Samuelsen) HR 10's formal title of bill is "9/11 Recommendations Implementation Act" (included in this act is creation of cabinet level intelligence director we see and hear so much about in the news) ---Begin Article--- Immediate Action Requested Legislation in Congress Seeks to Restrict Access to Birth Records; FGS Recommends Writing to Your Congressional Representatives The U.S. House of Representatives is considering a bill, House Resolution 10 (H.R. 10), which seeks to restrict access to birth certificates. This bill, which purpose is to respond to the threat of terrorism, is on a fast track to passage and has been voted on by several committees already. Your help is needed now. David Rencher, Chairman of the Record Access and Preservation Committee, a joint committee of the National Genealogical Society and Federation of Genealogical Societies, has sent a letter to the bill's sponsor, Congressman Dennis Hastert, recommending an amendment to the bill as follows: "However, nothing in this Chapter 2 shall be construed to require a State to change its law with respect to public access to (A) non-certified copies of birth certificates, or to (B) birth certificates or birth records once a period of 100 years has elapsed from the date of creation of the certificate or record." A copy of the letter is available on the FGS site at www.fgs.org/rpa/formalactions.htm. To view this bill, go to http://thomas.loc.gov. Enter HR 10 in the search box for "Bill Number." Action Is Needed Now Because this bill is moving toward passage so quickly, it is urged that the genealogical community take action immediately and let their representatives know that they are in support of David Rencher's amendment and the FGS position in this important matter. To find your state representative's contact information, go to http://www.house.gov/writerep/ . How Should I Word My Letter? While you should word the letter in any way that is comfortable for you, it is recommended that you include the following as a portion of the letter: "While I support the intention to increase security to protect the U.S. from terrorists and those who wish to improperly take U.S. identities, I am concerned that those researching their family's history continue to have access to non-certified birth records. Therefore, in order to support HR-10 I ask that you amend HR-10 Section 3063(d)(2) by adding the following wording to the existing paragraph: 'However, nothing in this Chapter 2 shall be construed to require a State to change its law with respect to public access to (A) non-certified copies of birth certificates or to (B) birth certificates or birth records once a period of 100 years has elapsed from the date of creation of the certificate or record.' I believe that this additional language is imperative so that the states do not react by restricting all certificates to comply with the law, rather than dealing with certified as opposed to non-certified birth certificates. This proposed amendatory language would remind them that they can and should be treated differently." ==== USGENWEB-SW Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send a message to USGENWEB-SW-L-request@rootsweb.com with the one word, unsubscribe. If you are subbed to the digest, send it to USGENWEB-SW-D-request@rootsweb.com

checking in for Dona Ana County. Elsa Altshool

Eddy County Richard.

Curry, De Baca, Guadalupe, Lea, Roosevelt & Quay Counties are up and running. _____________________________________ Harold Kilmer - NMGenWeb Coordinator for Curry, De Baca, Guadalupe, Lea, Roosevelt & Quay Counties in the great state of New Mexico. http://rootsweb.com/~nmcurry/index.html

----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Bellomo" <susanbellomo@yahoo.com> To: "Karen Mitchell" <km1109@aculink.net> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 10:45 AM Subject: [NMGENWEB] Oct check in Chaves and Otero Counties checking in. Susan Stockbridge Bellomo susanbellomo@yahoo.com State Coordinator, NMGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmgenweb/ County Coordinator, Chaves and Otero Counties ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Mitchell" <km1109@aculink.net> To: <NMGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 10:14 AM Subject: [NMGENWEB] Oct check in Taos County checking in, counter at 26863 Karen Mitchell km1109@aculink.net USGenWeb County Coordinator ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Taos County checking in, counter at 26863 Karen Mitchell km1109@aculink.net USGenWeb County Coordinator

You are a very kind person. Thank you. I might add, I have no employees, this is all volunteer. Richard. -----Original Message----- From: RCHAMILTON@ev1.net [mailto:RCHAMILTON@ev1.net] Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 8:35 PM To: jrrrr@ZiaNet.com Subject: Eddy County Hello Mr. Wilkinson, I just wanted to write and say thank you for such a great web site and for making genealogical research from a distance so easy. I appreciate all the effort, time, and hard work you and your employees must have put into this site to make it possible. Your service is so very valuable and will help many generations for years to come find out about their family heritage. Very Most Sincerely, Christine Hamilton

Thank you! Tom Bombaci volunteered to help with the Webmaster work. Susan

Hello, Wild Bunch. We have been offered the opportunity to post some cemetery photos for Dona Ana County, but we need some assistance from a Webmaster who would be willing to put them on line. We can get free Web space from Rootsweb where they would be available for others to use and enjoy for free. If anyone is interested (ready, willing and able!), will you please e-mail me? Thanks! Susan susanbellomo@yahoo.com

A former librarian sent me this link. It looks useful for history and genealogy. It's a digital library of local and trade directories for England and Wales, from 1750 to 1919 Susan http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/index.asp

----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Mitchell" <km1109@aculink.net> To: <USGENWEB-SW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 2:26 PM Subject: [USGenWeb-SW] Flag poll results Hi everyone, I told you that I would report back on the question of whether our flag image on the National page was incorrect, or a desecration. I think everyone that wanted to voice an opinion has done so, so I have tallied the results. 57 people said that the graphic was okay and they accepted it. 42 people said that it was not okay and they don't like it. So I believe the majority says that the graphic is okay. I may not agree with it but the majority wins (smile). Furthermore when I wrote to the Citizens Flag Alliance they stated: "Computer generated digitized images that may happen to be red, white and blue, may have stars and stripes and may resemble the flag are not flags, they are images. Any picture of a flag is not a flag it is a picture." So that clears up what is a flag and what is not. Thank you all for tendering your opinions, I do appreciate it. Karen Mitchell ==== USGENWEB-SW Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send a message to USGENWEB-SW-L-request@rootsweb.com with the one word, unsubscribe. If you are subbed to the digest, send it to USGENWEB-SW-D-request@rootsweb.com

Hi everyone, I told you that I would report back on the question of whether our flag image on the National page was incorrect, or a desecration. I think everyone that wanted to voice an opinion has done so, so I have tallied the results. 57 people said that the graphic was okay and they accepted it. 42 people said that it was not okay and they don't like it. So I believe the majority says that the graphic is okay. I may not agree with it but the majority wins (smile). Furthermore when I wrote to the Citizens Flag Alliance they stated: "Computer generated digitized images that may happen to be red, white and blue, may have stars and stripes and may resemble the flag are not flags, they are images. Any picture of a flag is not a flag it is a picture." So that clears up what is a flag and what is not. Thank you all for tendering your opinions, I do appreciate it. Karen Mitchell

Humor as we research. Much to be said in agreement with the following comments. almost factual! from another list.. thanks Richard. glorybee I think some of our ancestors definitely applied these rules ~~ ANCESTORS GUIDE TO NAMING 1) Thou shalt name your male children: James, John, Joseph, Abel, Richard, Thomas or William. 2) Thou shalt name your female children: Elizabeth, Mary, Martha, Maria, Sarah, Ida, Virginia or Mae. 3) Thou shalt leave NO trace of your female children. 4) Even after naming your children using the above lists, thou shalt never refer to them by those names again; instead, thou shalt call them by strange nicknames, such as: Ike, Eli, Polly, Dolly, and Sukey. 5) Thou shalt not use any middle names on ANY legal documents or census reports and whenever possible, use only initials on legal documents. 6) Thou shalt learn to sign all documents illegibly so that your surname can be spelled, or misspelled in various ways: Tipper, Topper, Hopper, Tucker, Tapper. 7) Thou shalt, after no more than 3 generation, make sure that all family records are lost, misplaced, burned in a court house fire, lost at sea or buried so that NO future trace of them can be found. 8) Thou shalt propagate misleading legends, rumors and vague innuendo regarding your place of origin: a) You MAY have come from England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales ... or Iran. b) You MAY have American Indian Ancestry. c) You MAY be descended from one of three brothers that came over. 9) Thou shalt leave no cemetery records, or headstones with legible names; nor will any of the dates thereon match those in any public records. 10) Thou shalt leave no family bible with records of birth, marriage or death. 11) Thou shalt ALWAYS flip thy name around. If born James Albert, thou must make the rest of thy records in the name of Albert, AJ, JA, AL, Bert, Bart or Fred. 12) Thou must also flip thy parent's names around when making reference to them, although "Unknown" is an acceptable alternative. 13) Thou shalt name all generations of children with the identical first names, as will all of your brothers so that all cousins are named the same.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Shari Handley" <srh@tyaskin.com> To: <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 5:46 PM Subject: [STATE-COORD] RAL Candidate: Scott Burow *1. Your name Scott Burow *2. Your email address sburow@swbell.net *3. A listing of all positions you currently hold in USGenWeb County Coordinator - Marion County, MO County Coordinator - Ralls County, MO County Coordinator - Richland County, IL State Coordinator - The ILGenWeb Project *4. A listing of the URLs of all USGenWeb-affiliated web sites you maintain. www.rootsweb.com/~momarion www.rootsweb.com/~moralls www.rootsweb.com/~ilrichla www.ilgenweb.com *5. A statement telling the AB why you wish to be considered for this position, and why you feel you would be the best candidate for it. I think that the county coordinators are the heart and soul of this project. We provide a service to people, we provide them information, help, and guidance as County Coordinators. We locate people to help our website visitors, lookup volunteers, and people with information. We supervise the websites, the message boards, and the mail lists, as well as generate, and/or coordinate the information that brings people back to our respective websites. . As County Coordinators, we stand at the grassroots level of the project. Without us, there wouldn't be much available to our visitors and users. Our voice needs to be heard, and respected, on the Advisory Board. Since the last elections, I've been listening. These are things that I have heard County Coordinators talking about in the last year or so: The problems of the past need to be resolved. The infighting and bickering between differing areas of the project need to be settled. The by-laws need to give some security to volunteers and county coordinators. There needs to be improved lines of communication between the Advisory Board and State Coordinators and County Coordinators, and the rights and responsiblities of each need to be clearly defined. Recent events at the AB level have caused legitimate concern for USGenWeb members. These concerns need to be addressed by the Advisory Board. The process needs to be out in the open so that the members of the USGenWeb are aware of what's going on at the AB level. The current distrust does no benefit to the project as a whole. These issues I've heard about and these are the things that I would plan to work on should I be a representative on the Advisory Board. The USGenWeb Project is the greatest organization for the genealogical community, and the people that I've met here are the most incredible and giving folk. This project has the potential to provide so much to anyone who needs or wants to research their family history, and the backbone of that whole process lies with the county coordinator. As RAL I'll be the CC's voice on the Advisory Board, and I'll do my very best to have their concerns and issues heard. Thank you for your consideration. Scott Burow

----- Original Message ----- From: "Shari Handley" <srh@tyaskin.com> To: <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 5:28 PM Subject: [STATE-COORD] Final Slate of RAL Candidates Applications for the Representative-at-Large position on the USGenWeb Advisory Board have been received from the following USGenWeb members (in alphabetical order): Charles Barnum Scott Burow Jason Mendenhall Betsy Mills Phyllis Rippee Mike St. Clair Sharon Tabor Denise Wells As soon as the Elections Committee is ready, they will conduct a nationwide poll of our members to determine their preference from among these candidates. The Advisory Board will use this information, along with the information provided by the candidates on their applications, in making their choice to serve out the current term as Representative-at-Large. I will begin posting the candidates' applications this evening to help members get to know the candidates. Candidates are also free to put up a "campaign" page if they wish to, although this is not a regular election, but rather is a preference poll. Thanks, Shari Handley National Coordinator The USGenWeb Project State Coordinators, I would appreciate it if you would pass this message along to your CCs.

FYI. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: <dsam@sampubco.com> To: <USGENWEB-SW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 2:45 PM Subject: RE: [USGenWeb-SW] Motion to Amend EC Procedures As member of the EC, it is the EC that asked for the clarification in the procedures to resolve the problem of the unexpired terms. The current procedures said only 2 year terms but that doesn't clarify the problem of those who left in middle of their terms for various reasons. David Samuelsen Original Message: ----------------- From: Bosque Lover nana321@earthlink.net Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 14:28:26 -0500 To: USGENWEB-SW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [USGenWeb-SW] Motion to Amend EC Procedures The following motion is under discussion. Comments? Thanks Bettie <>< --------------------------- "It has been moved by David and seconded by Larry that the Election Committee Procedures be amended by adding a second paragraph into Section A, Article 3 which reads, "EC members who are seated initially to fill unexpired terms may volunteer for a full two-year term at the end of the partial term. Upon the completion of one partial term and one full two-year term, members must sit out for one year before reapplying for a seat. Members who first serve a full two-year term may not apply for a replacement term without sitting out a year.", and adding a third paragraph into Section A, Article 2 which reads, "EC members may serve as Chair or Publicist/Secretary for a maximum of two consecutive years."" ==== USGENWEB-SW Mailing List ==== The CC representatives for the SW-SC region are currently David Morgan & Bettie Wood. The SC representative is Larry Flescher. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ==== USGENWEB-SW Mailing List ==== To search the mail list archives, go to http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=USGENWEB-SW

----- Original Message ----- From: "Shari Handley" <srh@tyaskin.com> To: <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 2:43 PM Subject: [STATE-COORD] Reminder - RAL App Deadline Tonight We've got seven great candidates so far, but "the more, the merrier", as they say. If you'd like to apply for the open Representative-at-Large position on the Advisory Board, please be aware that the deadline for applying is tonight (Tuesday) at 11:59 p.m. The RAL represents all members in all regions. Qualified candidates will have at least one year of continuous service and current activity as a member in good standing with The USGenWeb Project. If you are qualified and interested in being considered for the RAL position, please respond both to me (srh@tyaskin.com) and to Greta Thompson, Recording Secretary (bluebear@new.rr.com) with all of the following information: 1. Your name 2. Your email address 3. A listing of all positions you currently hold in USGenWeb 4. A listing of the URLs of all USGenWeb-affiliated web sites you maintain 5. A statement telling the AB why you wish to be considered for this position, and why you feel you would be the best candidate for it. The Advisory Board will use this information, along with the results of a membership-wide preference poll, to choose who will be appointed to fill the vacancy. Shari Handley National Coordinator The USGenWeb Project

FYI, here's the list. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bosque Lover" <nana321@earthlink.net> To: <USGENWEB-SW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 10:01 PM Subject: [USGenWeb-SW] RAL Replacement Candidates The following have applied for the RAL (Representative At Large) position (in alphabetical order): Charles Barnum Scott Burow Jason Mendenhall Betsy Mills Phyllis Rippee Mike St. Clair Sharon Tabor More info will come about these folks (through applications? campaign pages? not sure), a poll will be taken, then everyone will vote for the one they wish to be RAL, then the AB will make their determination. At any time, please let us (David Morgan, Larry Flesher & myself) know who you want to represent you. Thanks Bettie <>< -------------------------- From: "Shari Handley" <srh@tyaskin.com> Applications for the RAL position have been received from the following USGenWeb members (in alphabetical order): Charles Barnum Scott Burow Jason Mendenhall Betsy Mills Phyllis Rippee Mike St. Clair Sharon Tabor We have an excellent group of candidates to choose from! I have requested that the EC conduct a national preference poll among USGenWeb members to assist the AB in making the choice of which candidate to appoint. The results of this preference poll, along with the information contained in each candidate's application, will be be used by the AB to make the determination. More information will be posted once the particulars are worked out. Thanks, Shari ==== USGENWEB-SW Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send a message to USGENWEB-SW-L-request@rootsweb.com with the one word, unsubscribe. If you are subbed to the digest, send it to USGENWEB-SW-D-request@rootsweb.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "Shari Handley" <srh@tyaskin.com> To: <USGENWEB-SW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 8:20 AM Subject: [USGenWeb-SW] RAL Application Deadline Applications for the RAL position will be accepted through 11:59 pm EDT Tuesday, September 7. We've gotten some really great applicants so far. I'm so pleased to see this kind of positive interest in getting involved for the betterment of our Project! Shari Handley National Coordinator State Coordinators, please forward this message to your state lists. Thanks! *-----Original Message----- *From: Shari Handley [mailto:srh@tyaskin.com] *Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 1:49 AM *To: BOARD-L@rootsweb.com; USGENWEB-DISCUSS-L@rootsweb.com; *STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com; USGENWEB-SE-L@rootsweb.com; *USGENWEB-SW-L@rootsweb.com; USGENWEB-NE-L@rootsweb.com; *USGENWEB-NW-L@rootsweb.com; USGENWEB-ALL-L@rootsweb.com *Subject: Candidates for RAL Wanted * * *The USGenWeb Project Advisory Board is seeking qualified *candidates to fill the vacant "Representative-at-Large" seat *on the AB. The RAL represents all members in all regions. *Qualified candidates will have at least one year of continuous *service and current activity as a member in good standing with *The USGenWeb Project. * *If you are qualified and interested in being considered for *the RAL position, please respond both to me (srh@tyaskin.com) *and to Greta Thompson, Recording Secretary *(bluebear@new.rr.com) with all of the following information: * *1. Your name *2. Your email address *3. A listing of all positions you currently hold in USGenWeb *4. A listing of the URLs of all USGenWeb-affiliated web sites *you maintain *5. A statement telling the AB why you wish to be considered *for this position, and why you feel you would be the best *candidate for it. * *The Advisory Board will use this information, along with the *results of a membership-wide preference poll, to choose who *will be appointed to fill the vacancy. * *Thanks! * *Shari Handley *National Coordinator *The USGenWeb Project ==== USGENWEB-SW Mailing List ==== To browse the mail list archives, go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/USGENWEB-SW/