Thanks to roses and Kajbene for their suggestions : I think i found him in the 1880 census a minister me(I guess that means methodist in gloucester county found him buried in old Phillipsburg cemetary dates 1828-1898 still dont know if he were associated with a church in warren but if methodist my grgr grandmother whom he married belonged and is buried aat the methodist church in bloomsbury(Hunterdon Co) so i will try to find history of that church