While I was reading the History of Warren County I came across something about the Theodore Paul mansion, northeast corner of Market and water Streets, Belevedere. Built prior to 1800 by Thomas Paul who came there 1792. The brother of my great grandfather,Jacob Cunningham/Baylor was Theodore Paul Cunningham/Baylor and I am wondering if his name Theodore Paul came from the name of this mansion. We can account for most of the first names being handed down but never could figure out where Theodore or Paul originated. Maybe my great great grandmother worked there. Does this house still stand? JUDY

Thanks to roses and Kajbene for their suggestions : I think i found him in the 1880 census a minister me(I guess that means methodist in gloucester county found him buried in old Phillipsburg cemetary dates 1828-1898 still dont know if he were associated with a church in warren but if methodist my grgr grandmother whom he married belonged and is buried aat the methodist church in bloomsbury(Hunterdon Co) so i will try to find history of that church

Hi Just learned that a Rev. Cook who lived in Phillipsburg in 1895(warren co census) was married to my gggrandmother Nancy Cole Hummer: he was her 2nd husband Does anyone know anything about him? Nancy was widowed again by 1910 and living with her daughter in Middlesex Co. I could not find either Reverend Cook or Nancy in the 1900 census. thank you , patty mcconnell

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Does anyone here know the birth and death years for Joseph ANDRESS ? He had a large home in Hainesburg called the Mansion House. He also owned a couple of stores in Hainesburg. Joseph apparently had a son named George L. Knowing the birthyear for George would also help me. Thanks for any help. -- Marshall Lake -- mlake@mlake.net -- http://mlake.net

I have been researching HAZLETT since 1999 in New Jersey (Hunterdon, Sussex & Warren counties) and in Pennsylvania (Luzerne and Columbia counties). Below are names related in some way to HAZLETT. If your surname is below and has a connection to HAZLETT in some way, I would like to hear from you: ANDERSON, ANSTETT, ASH, ASHELMAN BARNETT, BARTHOLOMEW, BELLES, BEST, BLACKWELL, BOMBOY, BOON, BOWER, BOWLBY BROWN, BURNS CASTNER, CLARK, COLE, COLEMAN, COLLINS, COPE, CRANE, CUMMINS DALRYMPLE EMMONS/EMMONDS, EVELAND (EPHLIN) GEARHART, GREGORY HANKINSON, HARRINGTON, HAZLETT (many spellings), HEAVENER, HEED, HENDERSHOTT, HODGE, HOWELL, HUNT JANUS, JARRARD KLEPPINGER LANCE, LAWRENCE, LAYCOCK, LONG, LOTT MARKLE, MARQUEZ, MARTIN, MARTZ, MATLOCK, MCGILL, MCLEAN, MCNEAR, MONROE, MORGAN NEWMAN PENNINGTON, PLYMPTON, PRIMROSE, PURSELL RIDELL, RINEHART, RITZER, ROOD, ROSEBECK, ROSENTHAL SEARLES, SEYMOUR, SIMONTON, SLATER, SPANGENBERG, SUTLIFF THARP, THATCHER, THOMPSON, TITMAN UNDERWOOD VILLA WILDRICK, (WOHLEBEN, WOOLEVER, WELLIVER), WOLFE, WO/ARMAN, YOUNG

I am trying to find information showing the birth and death dates of Elizabeth (Kirkpatrick) Predmore, Newman, daughter of Capt. John and Lydia (Lewis) Kirkpatrick. I believe she was born in 1780 in Frelinghuysen, Sussex, NJ and may have died in Ohio. She may be mentioned in Family Records: or Genealogies of the First Settlers of Passaic Valley above Chatham, N.J. By John Little; Feltsville, N.J.; 1851 or Somerset County Historical Quarterly, N.J. Edited by A. Van Doren Honeyman. Vol. III contains an article on the Kirkpatricks by Rev. Oscar M. Voorhees; and Vol. V, an article on The Kirkpatricks in Line of Royalty, by A. V. D. Honeyman. I do not have access to these books. Does anyone? Rosalie

I have not made a lot of progress in my CUNNINGHAM/BAYLER search but I found someone {and something} of interest in the ancestry.com WW2 records. This BAYLOR was born in Brass Castle, Warren County. I had never heard of this small town so I looked it up. It is quite near Washington NJ and the population in 2000 was 1,507--732 male and 775 female--mostly of German descent. This might be one of the places my family lived. JUDY

Hello I am new to this board. I have been frequenting the Sussex county board on the trail of Henry M Williams and his family . I did manage to locate him on the 1860 census in Stoneyton, Sussex County, but his parentage remained a mystery until I dropped by the Warren County Genweb site last night. I believe I have found my Henry M Williams ,who I knew was a Cooper by trade, living with William J Williams who was also a Cooper, in Hardwick, Warren County , NJ in 1850. Now I need to verify somehow they are related. I believe my Henry was married at least twice to two different women by the name of Julia. The first was Julia Hannas or Hanners and the second was Julia Mc Collum from Montrose , Pa. I need to verify this because I won't know who was my great grandfather 's mother until I figure it out. I also am on the trail of the Ayers family from Warren County. I am especially searching for Robert Triller Ayres who married Sarah Harriet Rice on Sept 30 , 1841 in Warren County. I believe Roberts father was John Ayers and his mother was Sarah Shafer. Sarah's parents may have been Jacob Rice and Nancy Hazen. I have not been able to document this yet since I only recently found this information on line. I am looking forward to getting some research tips for this county and perhaps connecting with someone who is also researching these families. Linda

Hi Folks Thought you might all like to know about these two upcoming events in NJ. Both sound like they could be of value for NJ (and nearby) genealogists working with NJ families! I'm pretty sure that the June 8 event includes a lunch and that the June 10 event includes snacks of some sort - but you can check to be sure! Joan M. Lowry Genealogical Society of New Jersey mailto:membership@gsnj.org website: www.gsnj.org -------------- Discover a Whole New World: Researching in Religious Archives Instructors: L. Dale Patterson, Archivist, United Methodist Church Archives Margery N. Sly, Deputy Director, Presbyterian Historical Society Dr. Jennifer Woodruff Tait, Methodist Librarian, Drew University Thursday, June 8 9:00 a.m. – 3:00 p.m. Drew University, 36 Madison Avenue, Madison, NJ Directions/parking: http://www.drew.edu/about/directions.php The topics to be presented in this workshop are genealogy, social issues in religious archives, unexpected material, and ecumenical material (material not just related to a specific denomination or religion). -------------------- County Archives: Reference Services Instructor: Gary Saretzky, Archivist, Monmouth County Archives Saturday, June 10 (Limited to 25 participants) 9:00 a.m. – 12:00 noon Gloucester County Historical Society, 17 Hunter Street, Woodbury , NJ Directions/parking: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgchs/directions.html County records include, among others, census records, deeds, naturalizations, marriages, civil and criminal court records, surveyors’ records, maps, and various licensing records such as professionals and business name registrations. This workshop will discuss the types of reference services provided to researchers and the ways in which archives are organized and indexed to promote effective and secure use. --------------------- More information on registering for the workshops can be found on the NJ State Historical Records Advisory Board (SHRAB) website: http://www.state.nj.us/state/darm/links/shrabworkshops.html IF YOU WANT TO REGISTER FOR A WORKSHOP OR IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, PLEASE CALL TEL: 609-633-8334 Barbara Pepe, SHRAB Administrative Assistant New Jersey State Archives 225 West State Street PO Box 307 Trenton, NJ 08625-0307 mailto:Barbara.Pepe@sos.state.nj.us

The Genealogical Society of New Jersey and the New Jersey State Archives have canceled their joint program planned for this Saturday, June 3rd, in Trenton, due to numerous logistical complications. We hope to reschedule the all-day event on military research sometime in the fall. Registration payments will be returned or credited to those who have registered for the program. With our sincere apologies and regrets, Joan M. Lowry, President Genealogical Society of New Jersey mailto:membership@gsnj.org website: www.gsnj.org

Mr. Charles Stuart Prestopine has graciously accepted an invitation to speak at the regular meeting of the Stillwater Historical Society on Thursday June 8, 2006 at 7:30 PM. Charlie is an active participant in reenactments of the Revolutionary and Civil Wars and will bring us insight into these two historical periods of history. Mr. Prestopine taught American History and history of the Far East in New Jersey Public Schools for 31 years. In addition he maintains leadership roles and/or membership in many organizations ranging from War Memorial Committees to the Department of Environmental Protection and the "Olde Presbyterian Burial Ground Committee" of Hackettstown. Mr. Prestopine is scheduled to speak for 45 minutes with a question period to follow. Please visit www.HistoricStillwater.org for any additional information required.

Marylin oh Marilyn your're outstanding !! I found the obit in about 8 seconds. That's the lead I needed. I'm now off to the races, Many, many thanks. Jack >From: "Marilyn Souders" <msouders@nyc.rr.com> >To: NJWARREN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [NJWARREN] A mystery to me >Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 18:44:45 -0400 > >Have you checked for a newspaper account? Or, at least an obituary that >would nail down the exact date of death? >Use the Easton Express web site to search for the date of an obit, then >write to them for a copy. >http://www.eastonpl.org/obituary_index.htm > >I think in that time period, it might not have been reported as a suicide >in the newspaper (by contrast, I have an 1878 account that is luridly >detailed for one guy in my database who hung himself in his barn on >Christmas eve) Once you have a date, you could write to Trenton for a death >certificate. Ordinarily they cover up the "cause of death" if it's >something like suicide, but in one case I "lucked" out where they didn't >and I found that another person - in the same time period as you're >searching - walked in front of a train. > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack O'Connor" ><seanroconnor@hotmail.com> >To: <NJWARREN-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:54 PM >Subject: [NJWARREN] A mystery to me > > >> >>Julius Kielawa committed suicide in his sisters (Marianna Kielawa >>Woroniec) home around 1948 - 1952 in Alpha, NJ and was buired in the >>Potters Field which may now be a housing development. >> >>Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can untangle this mess? >> >>Help is desperatley need!! >> >>Thanks >> >>Jack >> >> >> >>==== NJWARREN Mailing List ==== >>You can contact the listowner at: Judy@BirdGenealogy.org >> >>============================== >>Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >>New content added every business day. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> > > > >==== NJWARREN Mailing List ==== >You can contact the listowner at: Judy@BirdGenealogy.org > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Have you checked for a newspaper account? Or, at least an obituary that would nail down the exact date of death? Use the Easton Express web site to search for the date of an obit, then write to them for a copy. http://www.eastonpl.org/obituary_index.htm I think in that time period, it might not have been reported as a suicide in the newspaper (by contrast, I have an 1878 account that is luridly detailed for one guy in my database who hung himself in his barn on Christmas eve) Once you have a date, you could write to Trenton for a death certificate. Ordinarily they cover up the "cause of death" if it's something like suicide, but in one case I "lucked" out where they didn't and I found that another person - in the same time period as you're searching - walked in front of a train. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack O'Connor" <seanroconnor@hotmail.com> To: <NJWARREN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:54 PM Subject: [NJWARREN] A mystery to me > > Julius Kielawa committed suicide in his sisters (Marianna Kielawa > Woroniec) home around 1948 - 1952 in Alpha, NJ and was buired in the > Potters Field which may now be a housing development. > > Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can untangle this mess? > > Help is desperatley need!! > > Thanks > > Jack > > > > ==== NJWARREN Mailing List ==== > You can contact the listowner at: Judy@BirdGenealogy.org > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Julius Kielawa committed suicide in his sisters (Marianna Kielawa Woroniec) home around 1948 - 1952 in Alpha, NJ and was buired in the Potters Field which may now be a housing development. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can untangle this mess? Help is desperatley need!! Thanks Jack

There has been activity in the NJ Assembly on the vital records access bill, A1390. On Monday, 5/22, the bill passed the State Assembly with Amendments from the floor. The gist of the matter is that they made the changes we all asked to have included! The bill, as passed, essentially says that the State Registrar can supply a "certification" [also known as an "informational copy", rather than a "certified copy"] of any vital record "after 80 years have elapsed in the case of birth records and 50 years have elapsed in the case of marriage records and 40 years have elapsed in the case of death records." This may also apply, by extension, to vital records offices at the local level. However, I am not a lawyer (or a legislator <g>) and so can't say this for sure! This is the text that we had asked them to add so that we can still access the majority of vital records. The years we chose are the same years that the Dept of Health was already using as their "genealogical records", which we believed would make the change easier to accept. In addition, they did take out the clause that said "An Applicant shall be required to ... not transfer, sell, share, reproduce or otherwise disclose the information to another party." So, we can legitimately go about our genealogy "business" and share the information with family members, etc. They left in the part that said the applicant has to use the information for the purposes they say on the application and maintain the information in a secure manner. However, I don't think this poses a problem for genealogical purposes. Genealogy is an accepted reason to request a record and don't we all want to keep our hard-won vital records in a safe place? There is still a bit of a problem with some language in the bill and this needs to be addressed in the Senate. The bill, as worded, says that "Vital records shall not be deemed to be a public or government record ..." The problem with this is that they seem to be trying to have it both ways - if they aren't a government record, let alone a public record, then how is it that the government is creating them, maintaining them, and limiting (or providing) access to them? The Senate will need to fix that! At any rate - the bill, as passed, is better than it was to start with - and I think we are no worse off than we were before! It can still be a better bill and we will find out how to proceed to ask the Senate to improve their version of the bill. If the Senate can pass a better version, then it goes back to the Assembly for another round. I think overall "Round One" goes to genealogists everywhere and we greatly appreciate all your efforts and contacts and concerns. We will keep the lists informed as we move into "Round Two" (the Senate version.) We hope that you will be willing to keep working with us on this issue to keep open access to NJ vital records. Thanks to one and all for your help and support in this! Joan M. Lowry, President Genealogical Society of New Jersey mailto:membership@gsnj.org website: www.gsnj.org

This is what I received from Trenton regarding birth record for warren County for 1873-74: "Franklin Township did not report its births to the state for the 1873-1874 fiscal year". So, my question is: where are these records? Wouldn't you know--this is the exact time period I need! Wish they had told me before i sent in my money. I asked twice before and was never give this answer, only "nothing found". I thank the person who took the time to write this on the form--at least now I know that there is a possibility the record is out there somewhere. So, anyway, if sks could tell me where these records could be it would be greatly appreciated! JUDY

Brenda and Jan you are two awesome ladies! Esther Read