For those of you so inclined to write, the addresses for the DOI and the BLM are below. Esther Read U.S. Department of the Interior 1849 C. Street N.W. Washington, DC 20240 U.S. Bureau of Land Management Office of Public Affairs 1849 C Street, Room 406-LS Washington, DC 20240 Some Bureaus of the Department of the Interior (DOI) (all off line at the moment) Bureau of Indian Affairs Bureau of Land Management Bureau of Reclamation U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service Minerals Management Service National Park Service Office of Surface Mining U.S. Geological Survey This is evidently the only division of the Department of Interior to get its act together and have its web site certified by the court. Their web site is back up and there is a link to a short report describing how the DOI is handling the rest of the situation. This could take awhile for some of the agencies. If the above link does not work use this one: http://www.usgs.gov/

Another location was Kansas...Asa Titus moved his family to Harper County, and made the move with several friends.

Another destination for Warren-Sussex migrations was in present-day Northumberland-Columbia-Montour Counties, about 100 miles west of NJ. I went out to the Columbia County Historical Society a few years ago to do some research and almost all the names were recognizable NJ names. In fact in Montour County there's a place called "Jerseytown" and a nearby cemetery is full of NJ names. Marilyn ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

FYI: The shutdown of these sites is due to incompetency in the design of these websites. Security is so loose, it seems anybody can access private information pertaining to individual native Americans. This data will be made available on the internet, only when the DOI can prove no private information on living individuals can be accessed from the internet. So blame it on the government officials operating these sites and not the judge. Your beef is with the DOI. So start writing and calling, since there is no way to e-mail them. Tim Eakins -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Reiley [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, 13 January, 2002 12:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NJWARREN] FYI: US government web sites Now that proves just how ridiculous our justice system has become. There is no reason to order such a dramatic shutdown of everything that BLM has over the Internet. I can see certain records, but to shut down everything shows gross incompetence on the part of U.S. District Judge Royce C. Lamberth. Obviously the judge has little understanding of just what he has ordered. Perhaps the judge is a genius in legal matters but he apparently is an idiot when it comes to other matters. A pity there is not a cliff in Judge Lamberth's path. If there were, it is obvious the good Judge would walk over the precipice in his ignorance. In disgust Dennis Reiley

Now that proves just how ridiculous our justice system has become. There is no reason to order such a dramatic shutdown of everything that BLM has over the Internet. I can see certain records, but to shut down everything shows gross incompetence on the part of U.S. District Judge Royce C. Lamberth. Obviously the judge has little understanding of just what he has ordered. Perhaps the judge is a genius in legal matters but he apparently is an idiot when it comes to other matters. A pity there is not a cliff in Judge Lamberth's path. If there were, it is obvious the good Judge would walk over the precipice in his ignorance. In disgust Dennis Reiley [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Esther Read/Tim Doyle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 8:18 PM Subject: [NJWARREN] FYI: US government web sites > I was about to supply the list with the URL for the Bureau of Land Management's (BLM) home page. Up until recently you would have been able to search for and view photographic images of patents issued for western lands. However, on 5 December ALL Department of Interior (DOI) websites were shut down by a court order. The BLM's explanation and contact information is printed below from what is left of their website. Usually I avoid political discussions in the list, BUT, in this case the loss of this web site has a direct effect on the ability of thousands of people to do research. In additon, you can no longer call up National Park Service (NPS) web sites to get information about our parks, make on-line reservations to visit the parks (which is hurting the travel industry which has already taken a hit due to the events of 11 September, and is bad for the economy), or gather any data about historic sites in your area of interest which the NPS might hold. As a professional archa! > eologist I am in sympathy with the Native Americans concerning their privacy rights. However, if this situation continues long term it has a profound effect on research and the tourist industry. I am including the BLM explanation for you information, what if any action you take is entirely up to you as an individual. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > You are currently unable to access the Bureau of Land Management's (BLM) web site because of litigation against the Department of the Interior (DOI) regarding access to Indian trust data or assets. On December 5, a court order from U.S. District Judge Royce C. Lamberth required DOI and its agencies to disconnect from the internet all information systems until it can be demonstrated that systems housing or providing access to individual Indian trust data or assets meet appropriate security standards. We are currently reviewing all information systems and certifying to the court's satisfaction that all of BLM's computer systems protect all critical information. As a result, you cannot view the BLM's home page or send e-mail to DOI or its agencies. > We are working diligently to comply with the court order so that we can restore full service to our customers as soon as possible. Until that time, please telephone your local BLM office for assistance. We apologize for the inconvenience this presents. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > State Office Public Rooms > > Alaska - 907-271-5960 > Arizona - 602-417-9200 > California - 916-978-4400 > Colorado - 303-239-3600 > Eastern States - 703-440-1600 > Idaho - 208-373-3889 > Montana - 406-896-5004 > Nevada - 775-861-6500 > New Mexico - 505-438-7400 > Oregon - 503-952-6001 > Utah - 801-539-4021 > Wyoming - 307-775-6256 > Washington, DC - 202-452-5125 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > > > ==== NJWARREN Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

To add to what Esther just wrote, check the names in the Melpine Cemetery, Muscatine County, Iowa: http://www.rootsweb.com/~iamusca2/melpine.htm Jan Reuther

The "Old Northwest Territory" consisted of the states of Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan and Wisconsin. This was one of the first western areas open for settlement after the American Revolution. These areas were then jumping off points for further westward expansion into places like Iowa, Minnesota, the Dakotas, Kansas, and then on to Oregon! Some Warren County Families in my data base who settled in these areas include: Andrew and Phebe (Read) Kirkpatrick and all their children to Guernsey County, Ohio circa 1807; their descendants end up in Kansas and in Oregon and California John and Eleanor (Miller) Perry and all their children to Oakland County, Michigan 1824. Richard and Levi Read (brpthers) to Oakland, and later Lapeer, County, Michigan 1837 (they married Perry daughters) they may have gone with their aunt Sarah Middlesworth (next entry) John and Sarah (Read) Middlesworth and all their children, as well as part of the Cummins family to Argentine Township, Genesee County, Michigan 1837-1840 Joseph Reed (a widower) and some of his children, Stoney Creek Township, Henry County, Indiana 1836-1838. His grandson, Joseph Reed Haggerty, Farm Hill, Olmsted County, Minnesota, date unknown. Joseph Haggerty did not go to Indiana with his grandfather, he appears to have left for Minnesota from Warren County. Jonah Read to Ohio (county unknown) 1868 The Martin family: David R. and Drusilla (Everitt) Martin in Ohio in the 1860s, county unknown. Baltis K. and Lidia A. (Martin) Wintermute, Musatine County, Iowa some time after 1860. Jonathan O. and Sarah (Lundy) Martin, Iowa, in the 1860s possibly earlier. Baltis and Sarah (Martin) Keen, possibly to Iowa. William Darius Lanterman, in Indiana in the 1860s, later settled in Jay County, Indiana. William and Nancy (Coursen) Sharp, Jasper County, Illinois 3rd quarter of the nineteenth century. Isaac R. Raub in Calhoun, Albion County Michigan by 1876. William W. and Annie (Armstrong) Read, Chardon, Ohio after 1879. However, concentrating on the "Old Northwest Territory" only tells half the story. There was also significant migration to the Fingers Lakes Region of Upstate, New York in the late eighteenth century when this area was first open for settlement. And, as unglamorous as it may sound, Luzerne, Lackawanna, Susquehanna, and Wyoming Counties in Northeastern Pa were a major destination for Warren Countians in the 19th century. Esther Read

I was about to supply the list with the URL for the Bureau of Land Management's (BLM) home page. Up until recently you would have been able to search for and view photographic images of patents issued for western lands. However, on 5 December ALL Department of Interior (DOI) websites were shut down by a court order. The BLM's explanation and contact information is printed below from what is left of their website. Usually I avoid political discussions in the list, BUT, in this case the loss of this web site has a direct effect on the ability of thousands of people to do research. In additon, you can no longer call up National Park Service (NPS) web sites to get information about our parks, make on-line reservations to visit the parks (which is hurting the travel industry which has already taken a hit due to the events of 11 September, and is bad for the economy), or gather any data about historic sites in your area of interest which the NPS might hold. As a professional archa! eologist I am in sympathy with the Native Americans concerning their privacy rights. However, if this situation continues long term it has a profound effect on research and the tourist industry. I am including the BLM explanation for you information, what if any action you take is entirely up to you as an individual. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are currently unable to access the Bureau of Land Management's (BLM) web site because of litigation against the Department of the Interior (DOI) regarding access to Indian trust data or assets. On December 5, a court order from U.S. District Judge Royce C. Lamberth required DOI and its agencies to disconnect from the internet all information systems until it can be demonstrated that systems housing or providing access to individual Indian trust data or assets meet appropriate security standards. We are currently reviewing all information systems and certifying to the court's satisfaction that all of BLM's computer systems protect all critical information. As a result, you cannot view the BLM's home page or send e-mail to DOI or its agencies. We are working diligently to comply with the court order so that we can restore full service to our customers as soon as possible. Until that time, please telephone your local BLM office for assistance. We apologize for the inconvenience this presents. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- State Office Public Rooms Alaska - 907-271-5960 Arizona - 602-417-9200 California - 916-978-4400 Colorado - 303-239-3600 Eastern States - 703-440-1600 Idaho - 208-373-3889 Montana - 406-896-5004 Nevada - 775-861-6500 New Mexico - 505-438-7400 Oregon - 503-952-6001 Utah - 801-539-4021 Wyoming - 307-775-6256 Washington, DC - 202-452-5125 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I too can vouch for the fact that very early families and family members seemed to navigate the Delaware River as if it weren't even there. I learned early in my research that I could not consider this river to be a dividing line, or barrier of any kind, when doing my research. In the year 1728 one John Pursel purchased land where Old York Road crosses the river at New Hope, Bucks Co., PA. from a John Coate. He then proceeded to operated a ferry at this crossing until the year 1732. At this time John Pursel sold his business to Emanuel Coryell, who's family had the ferry crossing well past the Revolution. My surnames, who definitely resided on both sides of the Delaware River, were: Pursel, Boyer, Shimer and Iliff. Sally Fisher

Hi All, Had to comment on Esther's post ...I agree 100% that we all miss too much when members take responses off-list. If it's general responses, I say let us all in on it. Granted, if you're sending a 3 page GED, others might get testy, so I guess some discretion would be in order. Maybe it's just the "peeping Tom" in me, but I do get interested in migration patterns that emerge, families that intermarry frequently, etc.. Like Esther, I feel like I'm missing something....and it might be that vital clue. It also gives others an idea of where to look for info. In that vein, I'd like to throw one out there for us to chew on. I've noticed a trend in my collateral HEITZMANS to migrate to the Ohio area around the 1830's. I'm sure some are BLM grants. I'm just wondering if many groups of freinds/neighbors made the move together. I have HEITZMANS linked to the GLESS/GLASS family, and just found them both in several areas of Ohio...together. I wonder also, when I look at the Ohio state map...it's almost as though the state was populated by migrants from the state on NJ, from the duplication of names. Any ideas? I've also seen so many names from the Warren, Hunterdon and Northampton areas that I wonder about organized "trains" to the area. Anyone know of any info on that? Happy Hunting, Wendy

I pulled this together from Snell. There may be other information floating around out there. If you comment on the following, please comment to the list so everyone can share the data. Cheers! Esther Read Information is from: James P. Snell "History of Sussex and Warren Counties, New Jersey." Two Volumes Everts & Peck, Philadelphia 1881 TOWNSHIPS AT THE TIME OF THE ORGANIZATION OF WARREN COUNTY Formed: 20 November 1824, first board of chosen freeholders met at Belvidere 11 May 1825. HARDWICK GREENWICH OXFORD INDEPENDENCE KNOWLTON MANSFIELD PAHAQUARRY HARDWICK TOWNSHIP Royal Patent Township, circa 1713 Part of BURLINGTON COUNTY Part of HUNTERDON COUNTY 1738, MORRIS COUNTY created from part of Hunterdon, Hardwick is in portion that becomes Morris 1753, SUSSEX COUNTY created from part of Morris, Hardwick is in portion that becomes Sussex 20 November 1824, WARREN COUNTY created from part of Sussex, Hardwick is in portion that becomes Warren Parent Township of: 1782, INDEPENDENCE TOWNSHIP (originally Sussex County, then Warren County) 27 December 1824, STILLWATER TOWNSHIP, Sussex County (as a result of the separation of Warren County from Sussex County) 29 December 1824, GREEN TOWNSHIP, Sussex County (also taken from part of INDEPENDENCE TOWNSHIP) (as a result of the separation of Warren County from Sussex County) 7 March 1848, FRELINGHUYSEN TOWNSHIP, Warren County GREENWICH TOWNSHIP In existence in 1730s when it was part of HUNTERDON COUNTY 1738, MORRIS COUNTY created from part of Hunterdon, Greenwich is in portion that becomes Morris 1753, SUSSEX COUNTY created from part of Morris, Greenwich is in portion that becomes Sussex 20 November 1824, WARREN COUNTY created from part of Sussex, Greenwich is in portion that becomes Warren Parent Township of: 1753--OXFORD TOWNSHIP 1754--MANSFIELD TOWNSHIP 15 February 1839, a portion of HARMONY TOWNSHIP (other portion from OXFORD) 15 February 1839, a portion of FRANKLIN TOWNSHIP (other portions from OXFORD and MANSFIELD) 7 March 1851, a portion of LOPATCONG TOWNSHIP (other portion from HARMONY), originally called Philipsburg Township OXFORD TOWNSHIP Formed 1753, SUSSEX COUNTY ? Originally part of Greenwich 20 November 1824 separated from Sussex County and placed in the newly formed WARREN COUNTY Parent Township of: 1839, HOPE TOWNSHIP 15 February 1839, a portion of HARMONY TOWNSHIP (other portion from GREENWICH) 15 February 1839, a portion of FRANKLIN TOWNSHIP (other portions from GREENWICH AND MANSFIELD) MANSFIELD TOWNSHIP 1754 Formed out of GREENWICH TOWNSHIP, part of SUSSEX COUNTY 20 November 1824 separated from Sussex County and placed in the newly formed WARREN COUNTY Parent Township of: 15 February 1839, a portion of FRANKLIN TOWNSHIP (other portions from OXFORD and GREENWICH) 28 February 1849, WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP KNOWLTON TOWNSHIP 1768 Formed by an Act of the New Jersey Legislature as a Township in SUSSEX COUNTY This implies that it may have been part of either Hardwick or Greenwich originally 20 November 1824 separated from Sussex County and placed in the newly formed WARREN COUNTY Parent of Township of: February 1845, BLAIRSTOWN TOWNSHIP, Warren County INDEPENDENCE TOWNSHIP 1782 Formed out of HARDWICK TOWNSHIP, part of SUSSEX COUNTY 20 November 1824 separated from Sussex County and placed in the newly formed WARREN COUNTY Parent Township of: 1872, ALLAMUCHY PAHAQUARRY TOWNSHIP 1824, formed from part of WALPACK TOWNSHIP, Sussex County (as a result of the separation of Warren County from Sussex County) 20 November 1824 separated from Sussex County and placed in the newly formed WARREN COUNTY Note: in the lat 10 years, this Township has united with Hardwick Township. Most of the township is in the posession of the National Park Service as part of the Delaware Water Gap National Park. As such, there is a limited taxbase in the Pahaquarry. By joinning with Hardwick the township was able to provide services to the few private landowners still in the area. Town of BELVIDERE, incorporated 1845 HACKETTSTOWN BOROUGH incorporated 1853 Town of PHILIPSBURG, incoporated 1861 WASHINGTON BOROUGH, incoporated 1868

My New Jersey LANTERMAN cousins migrated to Mahoning County, OH in the early 1800's. The built a flour mill in Mill Creek Park, Youngstown. BoB [email protected] wrote: > Hi All, > > Had to comment on Esther's post ...I agree 100% that we all miss too much > when members take responses off-list. If it's general responses, I say let us > all in on it. Granted, if you're sending a 3 page GED, others might get > testy, so I guess some discretion would be in order. Maybe it's just the > "peeping Tom" in me, but I do get interested in migration patterns that > emerge, families that intermarry frequently, etc.. Like Esther, I feel like > I'm missing something....and it might be that vital clue. It also gives > others an idea of where to look for info. > > In that vein, I'd like to throw one out there for us to chew on. I've noticed > a trend in my collateral HEITZMANS to migrate to the Ohio area around the > 1830's. I'm sure some are BLM grants. I'm just wondering if many groups of > freinds/neighbors made the move together. I have HEITZMANS linked to the > GLESS/GLASS family, and just found them both in several areas of > Ohio...together. I wonder also, when I look at the Ohio state map...it's > almost as though the state was populated by migrants from the state on NJ, > from the duplication of names. Any ideas? I've also seen so many names from > the Warren, Hunterdon and Northampton areas that I wonder about organized > "trains" to the area. Anyone know of any info on that? > > Happy Hunting, Wendy > > ==== NJWARREN Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi List, Sorry for the confusion. The url will work, just checked it myself. The problem is the url is too long to fit on one line. You will have to cut and paste it . Highlight the text (in this case, the url below ). Click Edit. Click Copy.. Click the url box. Click Paste. Click Go or hit Enter. http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/northampton/history/local/davis/davis3 0.txt You can also do some interesting research, just by shortening the url (stop at northampton, for instance)...it's always sort of a suprise to me the things that can pop up. Found a brick wall that way once. Have fun, Wendy

I couldn't agree more with Wendy on this subject. For people not familiar with Warren County geography, you must also always research in adjacent Pennsylvania counties - and that includes up to the present day. As an example, my father lived in NJ all his 86 years BUT he was born near Allentown, PA, where his parents were living temporarily and died in an Easton,PA, hospital, so anyone looking for documents on him would be at a brick wall looking in NJ archives. Don't know that this is still the case but up till the 1970's, the phone listings for Phillipsburg, Harmony, etc., in Warren County, were in the Easton, PA., directory. More importantly, historically, there were several ferry crossings at the Delaware River and the bridge at Easton-Phillipsburg has a plaque on it that says it's been there since 1800 (I think that's the date or very close to it) Going deeper, though, in the earliest years - when the original immigrants arrived - there seemed to be a pattern, whether intended or not, of brothers settling on either side of the river. That is, one brother in NJ and the other in PA. At that time there was a significant difference in how owning land worked between the two states (again, off the top of my head, I seem to remember NJ was harder - more absentee landlords made it harder to own there). I have a number of sets of brothers who situated themselves thus - but they and their descendants all went to churches in Easton or Phillipsburg, which means you have to look in both states to keep everybody sorted out. (My two cents for the morning) Marilyn On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 09:36:13 EST [email protected] writes: > Maggie and the list, > Most of my father's family passed freely back and forth across the > Delaware > as early as 1770's...Northampton, Bucks and Luzerne Counties in > particular. > There were many ferries, wtih bridges soon to follow. I found a > great > chronology of Northampton history that should be of interest to many > members > of our list since mine wasn't the only family bouncing back and > forth over > the river...been to the graveyards, and seen way too many familiar > names! > > Go to: > http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/northampton/history/local/davis/d avis3 > > 0.txt > > and scroll through the document. The chronology is about halfway > through, but > there's a lot of great info. Before you exit the site, go back to > the top, > and locate the url for the main site of Northampton > History...there's plenty > more there! > > My 3xggrandfather William HEITZMAN was born in Hunterdon Co., > baptised in > Easton in St John's Evangelical Church; married in the same church > to Anna > WINTERS of Forks Twp., Northampton Co., lived and raised his family > in both > Forks Twp. and Warren Co., was buried in Easton...so it's safe to > say that > the generations of the late 1700's and early 1800's thought nothing > of > commuting across the Delaware on a daily basis. > > If you are in the Northampton /Warren area, I highly recommend the > Easton > Library's Marx Room. They have lots of church records, indexes, > census, etc. > for both Northampton and Warren Co.. It a great place to start > research in > the area. And just to the west is one of the largest cemeteries in > the area, > with a great index of burials in the cemetery office at the > entrance...found > 8 relatives...it was a very good day! > > Maggie, in your post, you neglected to name your GGGrandfather, > what's the > surname you're looking for? > > Happy Hunting, > Wendy > > > ==== NJWARREN Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Thanks for responding. The name I'm looking for is Jacob Rogers,Sr. born 1/1/1777 or 78. On the 1880 census in IA he listed his birthplace and his parents as being from PA. His son, Jacob was born in Sept 1836, and according to family history in Warren County.. I found a Jacob Rogers age 14 in the 1850 census in Mercer, E. Windsor, NJ. So I don't know if he was born there or was "from" Warren County. Neither father nor son would be buried there as they were in IL in 1864,and then they both went to IA, the father stayed there , and jacob Jr. came to MO. Thanks for any help you can give me.. [email protected] wrote: > Maggie and the list, > Most of my father's family passed freely back and forth across the Delaware > as early as 1770's...Northampton, Bucks and Luzerne Counties in particular. > There were many ferries, wtih bridges soon to follow. I found a great > chronology of Northampton history that should be of interest to many members > of our list since mine wasn't the only family bouncing back and forth over > the river...been to the graveyards, and seen way too many familiar names! > > Go to: > http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/northampton/history/local/davis/davis3 > > 0.txt > > and scroll through the document. The chronology is about halfway through, but > there's a lot of great info. Before you exit the site, go back to the top, > and locate the url for the main site of Northampton History...there's plenty > more there! > > My 3xggrandfather William HEITZMAN was born in Hunterdon Co., baptised in > Easton in St John's Evangelical Church; married in the same church to Anna > WINTERS of Forks Twp., Northampton Co., lived and raised his family in both > Forks Twp. and Warren Co., was buried in Easton...so it's safe to say that > the generations of the late 1700's and early 1800's thought nothing of > commuting across the Delaware on a daily basis. > > If you are in the Northampton /Warren area, I highly recommend the Easton > Library's Marx Room. They have lots of church records, indexes, census, etc. > for both Northampton and Warren Co.. It a great place to start research in > the area. And just to the west is one of the largest cemeteries in the area, > with a great index of burials in the cemetery office at the entrance...found > 8 relatives...it was a very good day! > > Maggie, in your post, you neglected to name your GGGrandfather, what's the > surname you're looking for? > > Happy Hunting, > Wendy > > ==== NJWARREN Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Maggie and the list, Most of my father's family passed freely back and forth across the Delaware as early as 1770's...Northampton, Bucks and Luzerne Counties in particular. There were many ferries, wtih bridges soon to follow. I found a great chronology of Northampton history that should be of interest to many members of our list since mine wasn't the only family bouncing back and forth over the river...been to the graveyards, and seen way too many familiar names! Go to: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/northampton/history/local/davis/davis3 0.txt and scroll through the document. The chronology is about halfway through, but there's a lot of great info. Before you exit the site, go back to the top, and locate the url for the main site of Northampton History...there's plenty more there! My 3xggrandfather William HEITZMAN was born in Hunterdon Co., baptised in Easton in St John's Evangelical Church; married in the same church to Anna WINTERS of Forks Twp., Northampton Co., lived and raised his family in both Forks Twp. and Warren Co., was buried in Easton...so it's safe to say that the generations of the late 1700's and early 1800's thought nothing of commuting across the Delaware on a daily basis. If you are in the Northampton /Warren area, I highly recommend the Easton Library's Marx Room. They have lots of church records, indexes, census, etc. for both Northampton and Warren Co.. It a great place to start research in the area. And just to the west is one of the largest cemeteries in the area, with a great index of burials in the cemetery office at the entrance...found 8 relatives...it was a very good day! Maggie, in your post, you neglected to name your GGGrandfather, what's the surname you're looking for? Happy Hunting, Wendy

Thank you Esther, Those links will save me a lot of time and effort. Best wishes, Dennis Reiley [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Esther Read/Tim Doyle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 11:00 PM Subject: [NJWARREN] How to find places > For those of you pounding your heads into your computer screens because you're having a hard time finding the location of a town...try this web site: > > http://www.mit.edu:8001/geo > > All you need to do is type in the name of the town and it will list every town in the United States with that name (be forewarned that towns with a name like Columbia tend to return LOTS of possible locations!). It will even give you the county. The site also has links to two other sites that provide the same service. Its very easy to use. > > Esther Doyle Read > > > ==== NJWARREN Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Dear Margaret, Most lists are very helpful. If you find one that is not, it usually means that no one is familiar with what you seek. Remember most of us are seeking answers, just because those on a list cannot help does not mean that they're not willing. I subscribe to many lists, so far I have found only marginal help from list members. (A lot of help from list owners). That doesn't mean list members ignore my requests, it simply means they can't answer my questions. But I stay subscribed, because someday one of my missing cousins will read my posts and respond. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Roberts" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [NJWARREN] Re: Townships. > I agree this is a great list, everyone is so helpful. I'm on another list, and didn't get one reply. This is wonderful. > > Diane McGee wrote: > > > If you are like me I was trying to narrow down the area my family came from but found out that all of Warren County used to be Sussex. For a new comer I just want to say what a wonderful List this is. > > > > Diane > > > > ==== NJWARREN Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== NJWARREN Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

For those of you pounding your heads into your computer screens because you're having a hard time finding the location of a town...try this web site: http://www.mit.edu:8001/geo All you need to do is type in the name of the town and it will list every town in the United States with that name (be forewarned that towns with a name like Columbia tend to return LOTS of possible locations!). It will even give you the county. The site also has links to two other sites that provide the same service. Its very easy to use. Esther Doyle Read

I agree this is a great list, everyone is so helpful. I'm on another list, and didn't get one reply. This is wonderful. Diane McGee wrote: > If you are like me I was trying to narrow down the area my family came from but found out that all of Warren County used to be Sussex. For a new comer I just want to say what a wonderful List this is. > > Diane > > ==== NJWARREN Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237