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    1. [NJUNION] Ogden/Morgan/etc.
    2. To Tracy, Pat, etc. This is a second response to Tracy's inquiry (below). Please bear in mind that I don't have a copy of Wm. O. Wheeler's 1907 Ogden genealogy. I didn't copy the index (wish I had), and I copied less than 100 selected pages out of this volume of over 500 pages. Many NJ libraries, the LDS Church, and most major genealogy libraries probably have this volume as well as a second important Wheeler resource on Union Co. genealogy: "Inscriptions on Tombstones and Monuments...of the First Presbyterian Church and St. Johns Church at Elizabeth, New Jersey" (1892). Very likely other subscribers to the NJUnion list either have these books or at least have easier access to them than I do. I note sadly that Wheeler's genealogy as well as the LDS internet Ancestral File and IGI sites are all loaded with Betsy, Lizzie, and Elizabeth Ogdens, and quite a few of them were born in the NJ-NYC-CT area in the 1790s. However, one Betsy Ogden, on page 129 of Wheeler, makes somewhat more sense to me than others I noticed. She was born about 1794 , is also listed a few times in the LDS-IGI, where she also appears as a relative of Willard Young, a Brigham Young descendant. Wheeler says Betsy had three unnamed children by a Mr. Cobb, but that doesn't seem to exclude an earlier or later marriage to William Morgan in 1816. This Betsy on page 129 was a daughter of Joseph Ogden (born 01 July 1763 & died 6 May 1817) and his first wife was Comfort Price. Joseph was a younger brother of Matthias Ogden (1742-1818), AFN:P241-NT. I am a descendant of both from Matthias and his wife Margaret Megie as well as Margaret's brother John Megie (AFN:GVW3-CC)-- more evidence, if any is needed, that Union Co. in olden times was a rather inbred place. The above Betsy may or may not be Tracy's "Betsey," who islisted with apparently correct info on five other Ogdens of NJ that I printed out from LDS-IGI sites using Batch #8931205. Wheeler states that that Comfort Price (who must have died before Joseph married Mehitable Smith in 1797) was the daughter of Moses Price and Comfort Bond-- probably descendants of 1664 Elizabethtown Associates Robert Bond (also my ancestor through several lines) and Benjamin Price. I know that Elizabeth's First Presb. Church Cem. is packed with Prices, including grave 113: occupied by Comfort (Bond) Price, who died 1766 at age 34. This is getting too long-winded. John Q. (in Chicago) ============================================= In a message dated 12/09/1999, Tracy wrote: > Subj: [NJUNION] MORGAN/OGDEN > Date: 12/09/1999 6:26:08 PM EST > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > I saw this marriage record at the LDS site: > William MORGAN m. Oct. 19, 1816, Elizabeth, Union, New Jersey to > Betsey OGDEN. > > Does anyone have any information on this couple? > How can I get parent information? > I have not done any research in New Jersey, appreciate any help. > > Tracy from CT =========================================== In a message dated 12/13/1999 9:54:58 AM EST, Pam wrote: > Subj: Re: [NJUNION] MORGAN/OGDEN > Date: 12/13/1999 8:54:58 AM Central Standard Time > From: [email protected] (Pat Price Flatt) > To: [email protected] > > Hi John:--sounds fascinating! Any mention of the PRICES of > NEW JERSEY who married OGDENS? This is my line of > PRICES and they ended up in, ONTARIO,CANADA. > Best wishes...................Pat > >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [NJUNION] MORGAN/OGDEN >> Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 12:15 PM EST >> >> To Tracy et al.-- I recently signed on to this list, so the following may >> be nothing new. >> >> Have you checked the fine (and very big) 1907 genealogy of William Ogden >> Wheeler: the OGDEN FAMILY IN AMERICA? This volume is mostly focused >> on the many thousands of descendants of Richard Ogden of England and >> especially his son John Ogden (AFN:9CS9-4G), 1609-1682, who was one of >> the founders of Elizabeth, NJ, in 1664-65. >> >> Partly because I am descended through at least four lines from John Ogden >> and at least another two lines from one of his sisters, I have copied large >> chunks of this book-- but I didn't copy the Index. John (in Chicago) ==============================================

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