Hi Judy, More of a question than aid. You post rings a bell. Have you seen the 1880 census on this family? Is it Richard who reports one parent as born in Massachusetts? It may well be coincidence, but have a great-great grandmother Catarine Clark "McMen" who moved over to the Summit area from New York City in 1850. She was most consistently reported by her children as born in Massachusetts. Her son lived most of his life in Summit. Dave McMane Paris, France