Hi Everyone I was interested in the Volunteer Club (that Dennis mentioned) that assists in locating the B,M, or D records on these people. In the state of NY only the recorder of these records or a town clerk (someone of similar authority), a paid employee has access to these records. The general public is not among them. They are not allowed to view the books. The books are not to be viewed by anyone without this stated authority even if the time of limitation has run out for that record. These books still contain information on some living people. Where does a club like this exist? The Libraries and Genealogy Societies however do volunteer and provide lookups through films, newspapers and etc. But I have not seen a volunteer working with Vitals, at least not where I have searched. Perhaps in some States it does exist. I would also like to mention that the State of Michigan just came down with a Supreme Court Ruling that people doing Genealogy have the same rights that any other public official, lawyer or person in obtaining these records and they cannot be treated separately or given any delay in having the information provided to them. My personal opinion is that if the necessity is there and people are providing the fee and enough revenue to obtain these records, then the Staffing should be adjusted accordingly. But the Steps taken in NJ would indicate that this is an out right refusal to provide that record to the public unless you provide all the information that is shown on the record. It would also appear to indicate, an out right refusal to do a Search for Genealogy purposes. If you provide all the information that is a lookup not a Search. I would like to know if a Lawyer can obtain it? Would an individual be seeking this information, if they had the information? Probably not, they would not be requesting the record from the Records Archive if they already had it.. I would like to see what the Freedom of Information Ruling would be on this. I think that this Law will have to adjusted in the future. Thanks for any additional input or information Regards Pat R