Janice, Yes, I believe she was born a Hand but so far have not figured out which John she belongs to. There are so many redundant first names in the clan and in the book copy that I am sorry to say I haven't looked into that as far as I should. I won't have time for a while but will let you know. There is more than one intermarriage which I think was fairly common in those days for one reason or another. Wish I could tell you more and you are not a bother at all. Penny