Hi Listers, I have batted my head against the wall for four years trying to find out where in Germany my Great Grandfather came from. I have taken all the usual steps including getting a copy of his Naturalization application and final papers but it only lists Germany as his place of origin! This is the last piece of my puzzle and I would appreciate any guidance that someone might have. By the way I reviewed all of the ship records from 1881, 1882 and 1883, that I could obtain with no results, other than I have had to have my prescription eye glasses upgraded! Please e-mail me directly with any suggestions. Thanks, Tom Ramsberger TRF649@aol.com

The best census is 1900. Did he join the military at any time? Did you check the state census'? Did he leave a will? Any info in his obit? Was he included in the direct lists from Germany, or even the indirect lists? By the way I have one ggf who also fits into this category. Don Lutz Virginia Beach ----- Original Message ----- From: <TRF649@aol.com> To: <NJUNION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 11:11 PM Subject: [NJUnion] (no subject) Hi Listers, I have batted my head against the wall for four years trying to find out where in Germany my Great Grandfather came from. I have taken all the usual steps including getting a copy of his Naturalization application and final papers but it only lists Germany as his place of origin! This is the last piece of my puzzle and I would appreciate any guidance that someone might have. By the way I reviewed all of the ship records from 1881, 1882 and 1883, that I could obtain with no results, other than I have had to have my prescription eye glasses upgraded! Please e-mail me directly with any suggestions. Thanks, Tom Ramsberger TRF649@aol.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237