HISTMOM@aol.com, Thanks for the very interesting letters. It's amazing how many Union Co. residents moved out to Hamilton and Butler counties, and it's good to be aware of the degree of communication they maintained with those who stayed put. Gary ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

I have a William Hay or Hays who married Elizabeth Pike July 17, 1802, at the Westfield Presbyterian Church, in Essex Co. They baptized a daughter Charlotte Randolph Hays. This William may be a son of my gggg grandparents Ephraim and Mary Terril Hay or Hays. I suspect Charlotte's middle name is a family surname either of his wife Elizabeth or of his father's family. Ephraim Hay is one of my brick walls -- he may be the Ephraim, son of David, who was baptized in Cranbury Feb 15, 1747. Also, I am interested in finding information about William and Elizabeth's descendants. Any assistance will be appreciated. Thanks for your offer! Terrill Hayes ----- Original Message ----- From: "D_T_Leo" <D_T_Leo@msn.com> To: <NJUNION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 6:34 PM Subject: [NJUnion] Fitz Randolph and surnames I descend from Edward Fitz Randolph and Elizabeth Blossom who moved to Piscataway, NJ in 1669. The Fitz Randolph's have 800 surnames in there first book of genealogy alone A large portion of this family dropped the "Fitz" and went by Randolph adding to the confusion of the Randolph family of Virginia. If you should come across a surname of either FitzRandolph or Randolph and need a lookup, I would be more than happy to help. I also have a Fitz Randolph web site on myfamily.com if you are intrested, you would need to email me so I could send you an invite, myfamily requires a password. Trisha in Buffalo P.S. I am still looking for a family that lived at 929 Hussa St, Linden, NJ in 1940's last name was Jergins/Jurgins ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

The first Nancy DeCamp mentioned in the will must be wife of William, on records as Ann, last name unknown. Read further for my reasons. Correction .... the 2nd Nancy Williams in Benjamin's will is Elizabeth wife of Stephen Crane Will abstact NJ Calendar of Wills 1791-1795 p 399 1792, November 7 Williams, Benjamin of Elizabeth Twp, Essex Co; Wife Sarah (Marsh) 1/3 of personal property. 1 mare and income of real estate untill eldest son, Marsh is 21. Eldest son Marsh, 7 acres of home plantation with house and 5 acres of woodland bought of David Mills. Sons, David, Abraham, and John, remainder fo home plantation divided between, when of age. Land in the Miamies, Columbia TWP, (Ohio), divided between the 4 sons. Oldest daughter, Sarah, privilege of living at home and L60 (pound of money), Daughter Nancy DeCamp, L5, Daughters Margeret and Elizabeth Williams, each L60, when 18. Residue to the 4 sons. Executors-friends, Ephraim Marsh and James Ross. Witnesses- Daniel Baker, Henry Baker and David Rogers. Proved June 25, 1793. Lib. 33, p 193 1793, June 13, Inventory, L533.0.3; made by Jehabod Ross and Charles Clark. file 7814-7817G This leads me to believe that Ann, wife of William DeCamp (son of Lambert DeCamp, Jr.) is Nancy in the will. John Marsh D'Camp (son of William & Ann/Nancy) mentions Grandfather Hatfield, 2nd husband of Sarah Marsh Williams, also Uncle Abraham W (it looks like W after the name is a Williams), Uncle Marsh W., Uncle David W., Uncle John W, & his son John Augustus Williams, Aunt Sally, Aunt Margeret (could she have married a Scudder?) Nina

I am trying to connect William DeCamp born 1770 Woodbridge, NJ, son of Lambert Jr to the WILLIAMS family. Records show his wife as Ann, last name unknown. These families lived in the Union, Essex & Middlsex Counties. If they lived in other counties please let me know. DeCamps and related families did marry into the Marsh families. I followed the MARSH family because the oldest son was named John Marsh DeCamp and a younger brother, William Edgar had a son & grandson named Marsh. After getting the letters John Marsh DeCamp wrote between 1825-1837, I believe he is related thru his mother to the Williams. He refers to Uncle Marsh father of John Augustus Williams, Uncle Abraham W., Uncle David W., Aunt Betsy (Williams)& Uncle Stephen Crane, they wrote to Uncle John W., The W must denote WILLIAMS as these are siblings to Marsh Williams, and children of Benjamin WILLIAMS. Benjamin married Sarah MARSH. If Sarah MARSH is mother to Ann (could she be known by Nancy?) that would be reason for her children and grandchildren to have the name of Marsh. If Ann is related to or is a Williams and she decends from a brother or sibling of Benjamin Williams, John Marsh does not make mention of them. I just recieved mail that Benjamin Williams wife, Sarah Marsh married 2nd to Andrew HATFIELD and must be Grandfather HATFIELD that John Marsh refered to in the letters. He later asks if Grandmother is settled and that could be Sarah Marsh. Elizabeth, wife of Stephen Crane is not named as daughter, in the will, so I will double check my source. More info by mail .... NJ Calender of Wills 1791-1795 p. 399 1792 Nov 7 Williams, Benjamin of Elizabeth Twp. Essex Co., wife Sarah, 1/3 of the property, Marsh eldest son 21, sons: David, Abraham & John they will get when of age, he mentions land owned in the Miamies Columbia Twp. (Ohio) devided between the 4 sons. Oldest daughter Sarah, privilege of living at home and L60 (money) daughter Nancy DECAMP, L5, daughters Margeret & Nancy Williams, each L60, when 18 Why 2 daughters named Nancy(?) and Nancy DeCamp go L5 while the others got L60 Children of Benjamin Williams & Sarah Marsh: 1 Benjamin Williams b: January 16, 1745/46 mar: Sarah Marsh d: September 23, 1824 Nancy b bef 1774 is she a Hatfield, adopted or what? mar: Unknown DeCamp Sarah Williams bef 1773 mar: Joseph Mills Marsh Williams b: June 01, 1775 d: August 21, 1855 Butler Co, OH mar: Nancy Cory b: October 22, 1772 Westfield, Union Co, N J d: December 05, 1855 Somerville, Butler Co., Ohio m: January 16, 1796 Presbyterian Ch., Westfield, New Jersey Margeret Williams b: 1776(Margeret was Benj. mother's name) David Williams b: 1779 d: Bef. January 1826 Abraham Williams b: 1781 d: Aft. 1825 Cincinnati, OH mar: Elizabeth H. Williams Elizabeth Betsy Williams b: 1785 mar: Stephen Crane b: Abt. 1781 m: March 27, 1802 Westfield, Essex County, New Jersey John Williams b: 1788

Hi, I know some of the cemeteries if you send them a disposable camera will take the pictures for you! You could call and ask the office if this is possible. Pat

Dear Friends, I also have someone buried at Clinton Cemetery in Irvington and would appreciate a photo. Louise Williams Arnold, CA

William Edgar did finally move his family to Butler County, OH and members of both families are buried at the same cemetery. To William E DeCamp 25 Rahway Middlesex County N. Jersey back: Receive'd This Letter October 26th 1837 Camden 10 mo. 8th 1837 Dear Brother, Thy favour of the 16th of Augs! last fell into my hands this morning in which I am glad to hear from thee and thy family, not having heard from any of you for more than one year during which time I was often on the eve of writing to thee or Gideon yet withheld expecting that one or the other of you would write. I should be glad if Gideon could & would send me the ballance due me it being twenty five dollars as I am very much in want of it this fall it would be of great service in assisting me pay my debts. (I'm not complaining ) still I wish Gideon would send me a few lines and let me know how it is with him and whether he can send it or not, or if thee concludes to move out here this fall thee can bring it. Thee wanted to know how times were here. I got a dollar a day at this time and boarded at building cider mills & screw props and would have been glad to have had thy help as I cannot attend to half the calls, as it is difficult to attend to farming & mill making. Last evening I got home having finished two mills and I have two more engaged yet. I expect to commence one of them tomorrow morning ( if well) I have had 5 other applications that time would not let me engage most of which are laid over for another year. Carpenters wages this summer and fall have been $1.25 pr day & found. Thee knows I have ever had some hopes of thy moving out here yet I have never advised thee, having stated things as they were from time to time in my communications in order thee might judge for thyself, at same time could not help believing this to be thy country, that is , if thee could see it so, it is not much more of a wilderness than Jersey. I live within one mile of the thriving little village of Camden, eight miles north of Camden is our county seat Eaton. Five miles south of Camden lies Yankee town in Butler County and 12 1/2 south of Yan. town is Hamilton County seat of Butler. The turnpike through all these places is in rapid progression and will be finished next summer from Cincinnati to Eaton a distance of 52 miles. This country is celebrated for corn and pork many farmers clear 1000 dols. a year in the article of pork. Corn generally sells from 25 to 37 1/2 a bus. and pork sold last fall from 5 to 7 dols pr. hund. wheat at this time 87 1/2 Oats .25. this to the farmer dry goods, common shiring 14 & 15 cts pr yd. calicoes from 16 c to 50 c per yd. coffee 6 lb for one dol. Orleans sugar 10 c single pound &. I must inform thee of death of John A Williams (uncle Marshs son) who was burried 25 April, uncle Johns wife, that is. aunt Diadama died 24 of March uncle John sold his house and 6 acres land in Yankee town and has moved up the Mississippi in the Illinois Country which he says is the handsomest he ever saw, Congress land for sale out there yet. I have not heard from Sally Dunham for nearly a year. John Williams left about $7000 in specie besides much other property, having follow'd Butter Huckstering about 7 years often times he clear'd 100 dols a month which was divided among his Brothers and sisters. As I had no barn on my place I put one up this summer which has involv'd me some in debt, yet I hope if health permits to get through yet I have a large family to struggle with, If Gideon concludes to send me that money this fall I want him to send me a few lines before to let me know when he puts it in the office there then I may know when to call and take it out of the office here, He may put up two bills on the Rahway Bank in the form that certificate was and send them. I had some difficulty to get the money for that certificate having to pay discount 3 pr ct. I think Rahway bills will do better. Remember me to Mother Brother & sisters, to thy wife and accept a share thy self, at same time excuse the many blunders in compositions of thy friend & Brother John M D'Camp I had almost forgotten to inform thee that the mill seat and place are sold.

Westfield Aug. 28th 1832 Mr. & Mrs E D'Camp Dr. Sir I received a letter some little time since from your brother in Ohio by which he informed me that he had received the deed I sent him to be executed for the sale of his part of the land to your brothers that as soon as he received it he immediately set out with his wife to go before a Judge of the Superior Court to have the acknowledgement taken. The Judge was then attending a curcuit court 60 miles from where your brother lived & as he arrived the Judge had left the place to hold a court at another place still further off he returned home having ascertained the time the Judge would be at home when he intends to have the deed executed and will forward it to me immediately I wish you would be so good as to inform your brother that I expect the deed soon and will call on them immediately after receiving it & shall be glad that they will be prepared to fulfill the contract I hope they will make the necessary preparation so that no further delay will take place Yours respectfully S Ross Ross looks like Rofs as in the old style writting

William E. D'Camp 25 Rahway Williams Store O Middlesex County 6 Mar 1829 N. Jersey Dear Brother Preble County 2d mo (Feby) 27 1829 Some time having elapsed since I had any lines from under they hand. I rec'd a few lines from Benj. W. Crane dated Jany 16th 1829. He informed me that he had married since he was out to this country. And felt desirous of moving out here to settle. I desired B W Crane when at my house to be sure to go and see my Brother W. E. D'Camp and inform him that my greater desire was that thee would set off and come to this country with thy family. Crane informed me in his letter that he went to see thee according to promised and thee told him that thee intended to come out here. I was indeed happy to hear that thee intended to come but as his letter did not inform me at what time. I have thot proper to arrest they attention once more with a few scatterd hints. I answered Cranes letter by the next mail, in which I desired of him that he might show it to thee. But as Uncle John W. Rec'd by last mail a letter from Aunt Betsy and Uncle Steven Crane wherein they informed him that their son Benj. thought of coming out this spring and his father talked of moving him out. I thought this perhaps would be a chance for thee, as thy family and Benjamins would make but a moderate load. I mentioned in that letter to Crane what things were only necessary. But fearing perhaps thee has not seen it I will here repeat the articles Viz If you can come together. One Teakettle, One Skillet & one small pot will be sufficient for both families to use on the road. Though if either or both have a Ccopper T Kettle or Brass Kettle, bring them along. Iron ware is cheaper here than there. Sell your feather Beds as you can get feathers here at 25 cts a pound ( I mistook the price in Crane's letter and set it at 20 cts#) Bring all of your Bedding and Cloathing of every description and thy Chest of Tools. Make a box to fit exactly the sides of the waggon sufficiently large to contain all thy Bedding & Cloathes except what will be wanting to use on the road. Similar to that of mine which thee saw made of 1/2 inch pine and lined at the corners to stiffen and support it, fill this compleatly tight or solid, then nail down the top firm. This will keep the articles from being injured by rubbing together as when put in loose. If thee cannot get a chance with Uncle Stephen Crane, try and fit out a one horse waggon and come in company with him. A nice one horse waggon would be as good as cash to thee here as Uncle Marsh would buy it of thee. I stated the advantages to be met with in this country ( to the mechanick) in the answer to B. W. Crane. I also mentioned in that, that if thee could not raise money sufficient to pay a man for bringing thee out. I would endevor to satisfy him for his trouble on his arrival here, and wait till thee was able to repay it. Dear Brother at the last time we saw each other thee expressed a strong desire to come out here and I have frequently written to thee on the subject. Yet not withstanding I humbly desire that thee will not take up with my mind alone in this matter. But use thy own will herein. As I do not wish to over persuade thee or any of my friends. But have merely set forth the truth as appears to me. Crane was out here and knows a little about what I have stated at different times, and is desirous to move out and settle here. And well persuaded am I if he acts prudently ( and apprehend nothing to the contrary) he will make his fortune in a few years. Silas Trembly was out here last fall and returned home and is back again to this country with a wife in order to settle here. If thee does conclude to come out this spring Aunt Betsy Dail (wife of Amos Dail) has some things she wants to send out to Hannah and if thee will get them and bring them out with thee I will pay for the carriage of them as also of that Cyphering book of mine. And if I could assure myself that thee would certainly come I could have a large job engaged ready for thee. Therefore I want thee to answer this soon as possible. Thee informed me in thy last that Phillemon complained that I never thought to write him but thee may inform him that this is incorrect, as I allow to write to him once more at least and wish he would once and while write to me as that would encourage me to answer him, as it is a long time since I rec'd any from him. My family is about middling at this time exept Hannah she still keeps poorly and confined to her bed more than half the time. I am not as hearty as usual. I hope these may find thee and thine all enjoying good health. Hannah joins me in love to Mary & thee and please to remember us in love to Father, Mother Brothers & sisters, both individually and collectively. Also to Benjamin W. Crane and his wife, Uncle Stephen and Aunt Betsy and all inquiring friends Dear Brother I could write all day but perhaps it would not be very entertaining to thee. Yet I may inform thee that Isaac Dodder has lived at Middletown ever since the decease of our dear sister Charity and has been in a poor state of health most of the time since. I was to see Sally Dunham a little before Christmas and they were all well. Sally informed me that her father in law Joseph Dunham was deceased also Sharlotte Scudder. She having married and died in child bed with her first child. Sally's little girl Sally Ann was living with aunt Peggy Scudder at that time. It will be 4 yrs this ensung spring since Uncle Abraham Williams moved from this place to Cincinnati and I expect upon a moderate calculation that he has cleared four thousand dollars by his trade. I have frequently asked him if he would not rather work in N. York again, he says No, for he can make double the wages in Cincinnati that he could in N. York. Dear Brother, we have been acquainted long enough for thee to be acquainted with my disposition and therefore I have been plain in my observations. But knowing as I do the advantages in this country to be met with in raising a family, all of which I leave to thy own judgement and in much Love subscribe myself thy sincere friend and Brother till we meet again John M D'Camp To W E DeCamp Please answer this as soon as possible that I may hear of they conclusions in this matter Direct To John M D'Camp Williams Store Butler County O.

Benjamin Wm. Crane born August 3, 1807, Westfield, NJ to Elizabeth Williams & Stephen Crane married March 27, 1802 Westfield, NJ It looks like this letter was delivered by their friend or cousin Benjamin Crane. There is no amount written or no return address. It is addressed to William Edgar and "fav'd by B. W. Crane", is written on the side Preble County Ohio 5th mo 11th 1828 Dear Brother Having a convenient opportunity, I joyfully embrace it. In directing a few lines to thee as this seems the only correspondence we can have while situate at so remote a distance I now salute thee in that love which no time nor distance can destroy. dear Brother I have waited in expectation of a letter from thee for nearly a year but am unhappily disappointed though I have written two and sent to thee by Post yet I have rec'd no answer, therefore cannot tell whether thee receiv'd them or not, but as I am ever mindful of thee I again venture to write this once that thee may know that I am still numbered among the living through the Mercy of an Everlasting God, to whom be praise Honor and dominion forever. Dear Brother our progress through life is short and that full of trouble, let us be mindful in this our day of the shortness of life and certainty of death and thus mindful we shall escape many snares of the grand enemy of our souls peace, and be thereby prepared when that awful summons of "Steward give up thy Stewardship." Shall sound in our ears and found with our Lamps trimmed and our light burning and be ready to enter into the Bride chamber before the door is shut! Oh that this may be the happy Experience of thee my dear Brother and of all, of my relations and kindred with myself. Dear Brother as I have always had a desire of thy company and of seeing thy face once more still increases with my years. I wrote pretty lengthy in the last two letters I sent thee, I deem it unnecessary to go so lenthy in this. I have met with a great disappointment this winter as my school house door was locked up and I forbidden to go therein any more. This was done by only two men who are called School directors, this was thought by a majority of my employers as an act devoid of all principle belonging to men of breeding, as appears is actually the case of both of these being puffed up with pride in their office, think to swerve a whole district of their voice and power, but in this they are mistaken for though I lost by it about $30. and my employers the chance of sending to school. Yet we are united in opposing their mean measures, and expect to have a school of our own. Though I have told thee this trouble yet would not discourage thee in the least in coming out to live with me as it is a very plentiful country. I believe those who do justly love Mercy and walk Humbly before God shall be fill'd of the good things of this life and inheritance among the Blessed forever and ever. I cannot write to thee of late without pressing thee to move out here. Edgar I am a weakly person and working alone at the carpenters trade goes hard with me not being well enough acquainted with the trade and there is not a day goes over my head wherein I do not think of thee, and say with myself, O was Edgar only here to work with me we might get the best of work and enough for 4 hands. Benjamin W. Crane I hope will inform thee of our situation and my desires more fully than I can express in this manner. I sincerely think, I might say I know, it would be best for you all to come out here. If I am spared with life and health at any time thee will come out where my house shall be thy welcome stopping place with what ever I am able to render to thy use. What shall I say more. I could indeed talk with thee from morn till eve'n. I fear I shall never see thy face more as I'm persuaded I never shall if thee does not move out here nor any the rest of my relations in that country. Edgar I want thee to be particular and write soon in Answer to this, and all the letters that I may send to thee as it is a great satisfaction for me to hear from thee and thy family as also of my Father Mother Brothers and Sisters, and I have made it a rule whenever I get a Letter from thee to answer it pretty soon. Also I want thee to let me know whether thee rec'd the two last letters I sent thee, and whether thee has wrote one to me lately Direct thy letters to John M D'Camp Williams Store Butler County Ohio. I may now conclude in saying I am ready and willing to assist thee in any thing that may be lawful as a friend and Brother. Please remember me to thy dear partner, to my Father, Mother Brother and sisters and all enquiring friends put my Brothers and sisters in mind to write I should be extremely happy to see me dear parents once more any one or all my brothers and sisters. In Love Farewell dear Brother may we live in the fear of the Lord and love of one another till death shall put an End to our sojourneying here. John M D'Camp To Wm E D'Camp

Reciev'd letter 5 of March 1827 Free John M D'Camp dep Post Master Dearly Beloved Brother 2'd mo 10th 1827 Thy favor of the 31st of Oct 1826 we receiv'd in about twenty days from the time it was written, and I may say we were truley happy to hear once more from thee and our relations, but was made to feel for thee and thy family, knowing by experience the distress sickness occasions. As when four of the five of us were sick in Sussex, and we could get no girl to help for any consideration when, (as thee mentions in thy letter) I had to do all the house work Cook Bake etc. and as to my outward affairs when living near my Fathers they run in the same line that thine does at this time. I believe if we had moved to this Country at the time we were fixing for the Lake country which was in the year 1818, we should in all probability be a handsome property at this time, but so it is I had but one dollar in money when we arrived at this place. But blessed be the Lord we own 12 acres of good land, a snug frame house and barn, the Barn I put up this fall. I'm a few dollars in debt at this time, but hope with God's blessing to clear all up in the spring. I worked in the summer with Uncle Abraham in Cincinnati at the Joiners trade at 50 cts a day and found, but if I was a good workman and carried it on my self I could make two dollars a day, as they work by measurement in Cincinnati, and provisions there are very cheap. I worked this winter at a house near at home for which I get 62 1/2 per day. I laid up 7.50 wt of pork for which I paid 2 cts a pound and 260 wt of beef at 2 1/2 cts a pound. I paid 1.5 cts a bushel for corn. Wheat is on the rise it is from 40 to 50 cts a bushel at this time, Butter 8 cts a pd, Tea $1.25 cts # pepper & Alspice 37 1/2 cts # Tallow 6 1/4 cts # Sugar 12 1/2 feathers 25 cts # etc. We were glad to hear that thee intended to come out here and live. I have never wanted to persuade any of my relations to come, but sure am I that if they would sell and come, they would never repent it. If I was in thy situation I would certainly sell wood off the Mountain to pay that debt of Ludlows, then gather what money thee can and come out here next fall, as good land as ever was can be had at $1. 25 cts per acre about 40 miles from this, and as near Cincinnati , tho, it is taken up very fast and settled. I want if thee should be favoured to come to this plentiful country (& if it the Lords willI hope thee may) I wish thee to bring that cyphering book I wrote & let thee have. Charity lost her little son Lewis, the latter part of the 9th month last, and was confined about 5 weeks since with another child that lived only about 8 hours. I have not seen Charity since her misfortune, therefore do not know whether the last was a girl or boy, she kept quite poorly the last I heard from her, which was about 2 weeks ago. I heard from Sally at the same time she and family were well. Dear Brother I want thee to answer this letter and inform me how that Business of Old Phile 's has been fix'd, also if grandmother is settled. I want thee to be more particular about home and let me hear from my Father & Mother, for I have not had a word from my mother since I have been in the country & my father never writes to me forgetting he has a son in Ohio, Philemon & Gideon forget they have a brother John. I wish thee to tell them of this, and that here in I have sent my love to them all, Father, Mother Brothers & Sisters, as I well remember you all. Thee may also tell my father that we have another son by name of William a pretty stout boy he was born the 4th of 10th month1826, which entitles him to a new fur hat from his grand-daddy, and a pair of Boots from his uncle William Edgar. We are as well as usual at this time and our relations generally so. Dear Brother I hope there may find thee wife and child enjoying the Blessings of health. I could write more by way of enquiry but must conclude at Present Remember me to thy wife and accept of that Love which nothing but death will separate Farewell John M D'Camp PS. when thee writes to me again direct thy letters in the following form Viz To John M D'Camp deputy post master Williams store Butler County, Ohio In this case I get my letters free from postage which I'm entitled to. Hannah sends her love to you all

William E D'Camp 25 Williams Store Middlesex County Butler C. O. 15 Jany New Jersey Rahway P.O. Dear Brother [ Preble Co. Ohio 1st month 13th 1826 This may inform thee that we are about as well as usual. I rec'd thy favour of June 4th 1825, and was happy to hear from you all. I wrote in answer to it & have rec'd no return. I have been looking out for Philemon this fall but was disappointed, tho the roads has been uncommonly good and are tolerably so at this time. As we have had it very dry from June till now, that is, we have had no heavy rains. I was sorry that Philemon did not come out here as he would chanced to have seen a better country, than any he has yet seen, or even my father saw. It is as follows lying on the wabash, a large and navigable stream, about 200 miles west from us. The land is of the first rate soil, as black as lamp black, and from 3 to 5 feet deep bordering on the grand Prairie, that is 300 miles long and 50 miles wide here it is that a man may have a farm at once, by buying wood land adjoining the Prairie, and prairie land that is as smooth as the salt meadow, without tree or stump. This land will be sold next fall, or the spring following, at 125 cts. per acre or 800 dols for 640 acres. People are flocking from all the states to this quarter & I presume to say that it will be thickly inhabited, in 3 or 4 years after the sales. Salt is manufactured within 15 miles of this land, and may be had # for # of wheat flour. Steam boats from New Orleans has been several miles above this land. I got this information from my nearest neighbor, Charles Jones who was out there a few weeks ago to see it, and told me this as a secret as he does not wish his neighbors to know it. He has a good farm here, of 100 acres which he offers to sell for 1100 dols. It is for want of money, that prevents my trying to get some of this land, as it is said to be healthy, by people who live near it. I do not mention these things in order to over persuade any of you but this much I will venture to say that if you all entertained ideas like mine you would sell that property you live upon, if you could get but 4000 dols for it, and come here, as no person knows that in that country, the great difference in raising crops there, or here, for corn & wheat has always been a sure crop, and pork a cash article, also, the ground when plough'd is as mellow as ashes, and not a stone in the way. A man in this country who has only 50, or 60, acres of such land clear'd, I mean as I have had described can lay up from 200 to 250 dols a year, and do this with 1/4th the labor that he could in Jersey, now this may appear hard for some of you to believe, but I can explain it thus, 1st this prairie land is already clear'd, and very rich, all it wants is fencing, to make it ready for the plow, then 25 acres put in corn (which is easier tended than then Jersey land on acc't of stone) will fatten 4 tons of Pork, which, at the usual price will amt, to 200 dols. 15 acres put in wheat will bring the 50 dols, besides leaving wheat and corn enough for family use and a large number of store hogs and some cattle sheep etc. Edgar these are all facts that I have seen, and therefore do know for my neighbor Charles Jones that lives here by me, does this very near every year and of no more land than I have mentioned, and his land is not as good as I have been describing. I liked this country pretty well at first, but now since I have become better acquainted with it I still like it better and think, did people know in Jersey the many advantages a man has on a good farm in this country they'd come here without hesitation. I can not deny but that I do sincerely wish my Father, Mother, Brothers & Sisters would embrace this opportunity of getting good land and so cheap as such a one does not offer every day. Now I fear it may be thought that I have said too much on this head, but so it is I have endeavourd to speak barely the truth as it is. Uncle Marsh wrote to father a few weeks ago, and I expect mentioned the decease of our uncle David W. uncle Reuben Dunn deceas'd about the time Father was at Middletown Ohio, Sam'l M. Martin son of Old Oliver Martin, Merch't in Cincinnati cut his throat and stabb'd himself and died a few weeks ago, I heard from Charity & Sally a few weeks ago and they were all well. I have not follow'd School Keeping this winter but work about at 1 bush wheat or 2 bush corn per day. I have 40 bush wheat nearly pd for I kill'd a hog that weigh'd 270 # and my black cow 110 # q. 40 # tallow hide weigh'd 68#. I have bk salt and have paid for 4 acres of land adjoining me. I'm nearly to the bottom of my paper please give my love to thy wife my father and mother, Phil. and the rest collectively write soon and let me hear how you all like this letter & thy boys name and tell him his uncle John is in Ohio. Hannah joins me in unseign'd love to you all John M D'Camp

Some of these people are Quakers, some families moved from NJ to OH. Most are from Union, Essex & Middlesex CO's NJ. If you can help identify anyone please do. Quakers John Marsh D'Camp 1792-1848 married Hannah D. Murphy and they moved to Preble Co., OH 1824. The letters describe the land, prices, things to load for the wagon trip west & more. ENJOY.... I have in my possession 7 letters, 6 written by my gr gr gr grandfather, John Marsh D'Camp to his brother William Edgar & family, in NJ. One is about a land sale of their fathers property after his death in 1829, in NJ. The letters span from 1825-1837. The letters are written on sheets of paper 15 1/4 inches wide and folded in the middle and are 12 inches long. They are folded in a certain way to 3 X 4 to 6 inches wide to form the envelope . 25 is written in the upper right hand corner of some but several have FREE printed and underneath "John M D'Camp dep. Post Master. When the letter arrives about 2 weeks later it has the date recieved written on the back. It is believed the receiver of the mail pays the postage. This letter to Wm. E was received Oct 1 Addressed: To William E D'Camp 25 Essex County, N.J. Rahway P O Township of Somers, Preble County O. 13th 8 mo. 1825 Dear Brother, After a long time of anxious expectation I receiv'd a few lines from under thy hand ( of three several dates) about the middle of last month, in which we were truly happy to hear from our dear Parents, Brothers & Sisters once more, and as this is the only way we can converse together to make known to each other our situation as to health & welfare, while placed at so remote as distance. I sincerely hope thou wilt not be quite so remiss for the future, but write to me frequently, for it is by this our love is nourished and strenghened. I have been teaching a School this summer my quarter expires the 5th of this month and my employers do not care to send to me again because I keep but 6 hours in a day & they want me to teach 8 hours a day, which I'm not willing to do, tho, they are well satisfied as to my abilities and management. So, I leave them. I calculate to visit Cincinnati in a week or two from this, and try to get in with uncle Abraham to work with him at his trade, & give up the idea of school-keeping altogether. I understood that B Dunham makes out pretty well there. I have not seen him nor Sally since they moved there. Isaac Vadder moved down to Cincinnati about 3 weeks ago, they were well at that time. I am clearing my land now a days though it has been so uncommon warm for this week past that I have done but little. I have hartly bargained for 4 acres of land adjoining mine at 7 1/2 dols per acre. But if I could but raise $300. I should buy 160 acres that lies about 20 miles north of me in this county. This quarter of a section of land has 20 acres cleared and under fence and about 10 acres deadened, the man wishes to sell it and will take 300 dols for it. I have seen it, and it has the handsomest mill seat on it that I am acquainted with in this country, & very good land. I was happy to hear that Philemon thinks of coming out this fall to see us. I think he will never repent of his journey, provided he keeps his health on the road. Thou mayst inform him I shall be happy to see him and tell him to bring his flute & claronet along with him as it would please his uncle Marsh & John to a nicity, as they have no such kind of music short of cincinnati. Also tell him not to let his coming end in talk altogether. I believe that Father does not think any more on coming to this country but if you all could but think it best. I'm sure if you could sell any way to advantage, that is if you could get $4000 dollars for that property it would get each of you as much of the best land at $2.00 per acre as you'd want. If Philemon comes out here this fall he may have a chance to see that land as several men from about here are going to view it this fall. I have a receipt in my possession given to me by grandfather Hatfield for the 50 dols I p'd him dated in February 1820, which I show'd to uncle John W and he say his mother told him I had p'd it when he was out there. We are all about at this time except little Anna, she has been sick for more than a week. I hope these may find you all enjoying a good state of health. Please give my love to my Father & Mother, Brothers & Sisters and to thy Partner for life and accept the same thyself. Forever John M. D'Camp P.S. Please be particular in directing thy letters to "John M D'Camp William's Store Butler (not Hamilton) County, Ohio

Looking for someone who is willing to take close-up photos of some family gravestones at Clinton Cemetery, Irvington.

I think this was intended for the list: ----------- From: Patricia Santiago <patstgo@yahoo.com> To: garymaher@juno.com Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 15:06:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Catholic or Reformed? If it's catholic it's Saint Michaels they still have a church, school is now closed. It' slocated at the corner of Jacques St. & East Jersey St. Elizabeth, NJ. iF IT'S Reformed it's not German anymore it's located on the 900 block of East Jersey St. Elizabeth, NJ 07201. Pat Santiago ----------- BTW, the Genealogical Society of the West Fields has a copy of the records of one of the Elizabeth German Churches (not St. Michael's). But the LDS have the St. Michael's records: Title Parish registers, 1849-1950 Authors Catholic Church. St. Michael (Elizabeth, New Jersey) (Main Author) Baptisms, marriages, deaths 1849-1879 Baptisms 1879-1889 Baptisms 1889-1906 (copy is film of photostats and mostly unreadable) FHL US/CAN Film 1398804 Baptisms (English) 1907-1944 Marriages 1879-1924 Interments (English) 1879-1944 Communion (English) 1877-1939 Confirmations (Indexed) 1873-1950 FHL US/CAN Film 1398805 Gary ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

If anyone does need information from a headstone at the Hillside Cemetary in Scoth Plains, NJ, please send the grave location/street address in the Hillside Cemetary and I will attempt to get this information and/or a picture next time I visit the cemetery. Amy Cichocki NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck & Louise Williams" <bitahvn@goldrush.com> To: <NJUNION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [NJUnion] Re: Hillside Cemetery > Address inquiries to > > Ms. Cristine M. Fahrenholz > The Hillside Cemetery Association > 1401 Woodland Avenue > PO Box 360 > Scotch Plains, NJ 07076 > Phone 908/756-1729 > Fax 908/756-2484 > Web address: www.hillsidecemetery.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

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Hi All, It was suggested to me by Pat,,,a subscriber to your site, that some of you might be interested in my Volunteer services. I would like to welcome those of you new to this site and tell you there are some really great folks who are willing to help just for the asking. I, myself do Volunteer research at Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville Georgia. There are Any research I do is absolutely at NO cost and I am willing to do what I can. There are more that 462 prisoners on record from the state of New Jersey and more than 180 who died here, I thought I would send my offer. Here are my sources of research. There are 2 online databases to do lookups.....One by name...one by Company and Regiment. I also have a copy of the Dorence Atwater Death list which has the names and grave numbers of some 13000 graves with only 460 marked as " UNKNOWN " This along with a CD I have which contains 34,000 names of the 45,000 who were imprisoned there which helps me find prisoner records because of misspellings of the names or alternate names. I visit the prison site every couple of weeks and have access to the onsite databases as well as the physical files. I would like to let you know of another service I offer which is to take photos of graves for a small fee. If there is anything I can do in helping your research at Andersonville, please just ask. Kevin Frye Local Andersonville Historian / National Park Service Volunteer Hammer the Americans hard enough and you forge the best weapon in the world. --- Captain Simeon Ecuyer ...in a letter written to Colonel Bouquet during the siege of Fort Pitt Please visit my website dedicated to those Americans who were imprisoned and died in captivity while in the service to our country http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html AOL USERS go to http://hometown.aol.com/andersonvillecw/

My Grandmother Ottilie Nees was baptized at the German Lutheran Church Elizabeth City in 1893. Does anyone have an idea about where the records from that church would be if there are any? There were many other children in the family and I was hoping to find other records. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Also anyone with access to a city directory I would like to know the address of the church. I have my grandmother's baptismal certificate (written in German) but it gives no info on the location of the church. Thanks so much for any help, Dian in Florida

The names associated with the National State Bank's 1873 reorganization are: New Cashier WOODRUFF, Edward S. Special Auditor FAIRBANKS, Jeremiah R. Resigned President PRUDEN, Keen Resigned Directors PRUDEN, John (son of Keen) DAVIS, Joseph A. MULFORD, Willioam P. CHETWOOD, John New President KEAN, Colonel John New Directors ENGLISH, James R. HEDGES, James E. LEGGETT, Thomas B. MCKINLEY, William