I just received a very kind e-mail from a reference librarian in New Brunswick , CANADA. In it she says that there were 2 jouets from NJ, one probably from Elizabeth in the 18th century who wandered up to New Brunswick. Both were Loyalists during the American Revolution. Both Xenophon and John Jouet were members of the NJ Volunteers and later settled in Kingsclear Parish, NB. Xenophon's father was Cavalier Jouet who went to England due to the American Revolution. If anyone has info on either of these Jouet's I would appreciate hearing from you. Kathy

The Social security death index has these two: Fred LOELOFF b 1/25/1910 d 9/1980 last residence Linden Estelle A. LOELOFF b 12/27/1912 d 3/1996 last residence Linden Does anyone know this family? There are not an awful lot of LOELOFFs and my LOELOFF family came from Germany about 1847 arriving in St Louis. They moved to San Antonio, Bexar County, Texas around 1882. The German name was LÖLOFF but the family that moved to Texas anglicized it to LOELOFF. Another brother came to Minnesota and they simply droped the unlaut making the name LOLOFF. I am wondering if the NJ family LOELOFFs are a branch of the LÖLOFF family. Floreda

Hi Mike, I don't have a list of the members, but the information I do have will help you get one. The gravestones for the Scotch Plains Baptist Church Yard were published in the GMNJ vol. 35, no. 2 pp 62-69, Vol. 35, no. 3, pp. 130-137; Vol. 36, no. 1, pp. 29-38; Vol. 36, no. 2, pp. 86-96. The introductory paragraph reads: "The Scotch Plains Baptist Church was organized August 5, 1747, by fifteen members from Piscataway Baptist Church at Edison (Stelton), Middlesex County. A building had been erected in 1742, which was enlarged in 1759. The first pastor was the Rev. Benjamin Miller, who served from February 13, 1748, until his death on November 14, 1781. He was suceeded in 1785 by the Rev. William Van Horne. The church, whith it's adjoining burial ground, is located on the southeast corner of Mountin and Park avenues in Scotch Plains. These inscriptions were first copied in 1922 by members of the Genealogical Society of New Jersey, and subsequently supplemented by them on November 4, 1952. The early brownstones in the graveyard are in poor condition. Many in brackets were either missing or illegible in 1952. An unusual number of later stones omit the age, and some have no dates whatsoever. Family researchers are also referred to "Scotch Plains Baptist Church Members, 1747-1814," published in the January 1932 issue of this magazine (Vol. 7, no. 3), and to "Scothc Plains Baptist Church Marriage Records, 1758-1761," printed in the New Jersey Archives (First Seried, Vol. 22). The original church records have been microfilmed by Rutgers University Library." I'm sure you can get a copy of the articles referenced through Inter-library loan. Audrey Shields Hancock has lots of information from this cemetery, along with additional sources of information, on her website at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~grannyapple/NJCh-Cem/UnionCoNJSctchPlns/ScotchPlainsBptHOME.html . While I haven't gone through it line by line, there appear to be more people listed on the GMNJ list than on the website (the purposes are different). happy hunting - Kathleen Pantano >From: Mike Miller <mmiller@pcsia.net> >To: NJUNION-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [NJUnion] Reference for Quote? >Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 21:49:52 -0600 > >Does anyone know about the membership list mentioned below? Is there a >history published of these forty new members (besides the present one >below) >or an online source? Church Minutes book somewhere? > >Mike Miller > >From: > >http://www.geocities.com/baptist_documents/1871hist_spbc.html > >referring to Rev. Benjamin Miller of the Scotch Plains Baptist Church: > >"The character of the licentiate manifested itself in the work of the >pastor. >The new interest at Scotch Plains rapidly expanded. The list of members >contains the names of forty persons under the same date with the >constituent >membership. Some of these may have united, by letters, from other places; >but >the most were undoubtedly baptized by the young pastor. Under date of June >11, 1748, four more names are recorded; October, 1748, sixty others. > >When the Philadelphia Association published its first statistical table, in >1761, Scotch Plains reported a total membership of one hundred and >thirty-four; more than three times the numerical strength of the parent >body >at the same period. " > > >==== NJUNION Mailing List ==== >www.rootsweb.com/~njunion > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

Hello, Yes, I have only some of the people on my site. I don't have all the copies from the issues given below for all the names. When I have a chance to get copies of all pages from GMNJ and as I have time, I will hopefully get more names added. I live in Michigan and don't have access to all GMNJ articles. I am also trying to be careful of copyrights on other published information. If someone is inclined to transcribe the names from the below listings, I would be happy to add those names to my website. Audrey ---------------------- Forwarded Message: --------------------- From: "Kathleen Pantano" <kpantano@hotmail.com> To: NJUNION-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NJUnion] Reference for Quote? - Scotch Plains Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:17:56 +0000 Hi Mike, I don't have a list of the members, but the information I do have will help you get one. The gravestones for the Scotch Plains Baptist Church Yard were published in the GMNJ vol. 35, no. 2 pp 62-69, Vol. 35, no. 3, pp. 130-137; Vol. 36, no. 1, pp. 29-38; Vol. 36, no. 2, pp. 86-96. The introductory paragraph reads: "The Scotch Plains Baptist Church was organized August 5, 1747, by fifteen members from Piscataway Baptist Church at Edison (Stelton), Middlesex County. A building had been erected in 1742, which was enlarged in 1759. The first pastor was the Rev. Benjamin Miller, who served from February 13, 1748, until his death on November 14, 1781. He was suceeded in 1785 by the Rev. William Van Horne. The church, whith it's adjoining burial ground, is located on the southeast corner of Mountin and Park avenues in Scotch Plains. These inscriptions were first copied in 1922 by members of the Genealogical Society of New Jersey, and subsequently supplemented by them on November 4, 1952. The early brownstones in the graveyard are in poor condition. Many in brackets were either missing or illegible in 1952. An unusual number of later stones omit the age, and some have no dates whatsoever. Family researchers are also referred to "Scotch Plains Baptist Church Members, 1747-1814," published in the January 1932 issue of this magazine (Vol. 7, no. 3), and to "Scothc Plains Baptist Church Marriage Records, 1758-1761," printed in the New Jersey Archives (First Seried, Vol. 22). The original church records have been microfilmed by Rutgers University Library." I'm sure you can get a copy of the articles referenced through Inter-library loan. Audrey Shields Hancock has lots of information from this cemetery, along with additional sources of information, on her website at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~grannyapple/NJCh-Cem/UnionCoNJSctch Plns /ScotchPlainsBptHOME.html . While I haven't gone through it line by line, there appear to be more people listed on the GMNJ list than on the website (the purposes are different). happy hunting - Kathleen Pantano >From: Mike Miller <mmiller@pcsia.net> >To: NJUNION-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [NJUnion] Reference for Quote? >Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 21:49:52 -0600 > >Does anyone know about the membership list mentioned below? Is there a >history published of these forty new members (besides the present one >below) >or an online source? Church Minutes book somewhere? > >Mike Miller > >From: > >http://www.geocities.com/baptist_documents/1871hist_spbc.html > >referring to Rev. Benjamin Miller of the Scotch Plains Baptist Church: > >"The character of the licentiate manifested itself in the work of the >pastor. >The new interest at Scotch Plains rapidly expanded. The list of members >contains the names of forty persons under the same date with the >constituent >membership. Some of these may have united, by letters, from other places; >but >the most were undoubtedly baptized by the young pastor. Under date of June >11, 1748, four more names are recorded; October, 1748, sixty others. > >When the Philadelphia Association published its first statistical table, in >1761, Scotch Plains reported a total membership of one hundred and >thirty-four; more than three times the numerical strength of the parent >body >at the same period. " > > >==== NJUNION Mailing List ==== >www.rootsweb.com/~njunion > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ==== NJUNION Mailing List ==== www.rootsweb.com/~njunion ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hello Mike and others --- I have the GMNJ vol`s with the cemetery records of the Scotch Plains Baptist Church Yard and would photo copy them if you need a copy or part there of ---- regards ---- Leslie Kathleen Pantano wrote: > Hi Mike, > > I don't have a list of the members, but the information I do have will > help you get one. The gravestones for the Scotch Plains Baptist Church > Yard were published in the GMNJ vol. 35, no. 2 pp 62-69, Vol. 35, no. > 3, pp. 130-137; Vol. 36, no. 1, pp. 29-38; Vol. 36, no. 2, pp. 86-96. > The introductory paragraph reads: > > "The Scotch Plains Baptist Church was organized August 5, 1747, by > fifteen members from Piscataway Baptist Church at Edison (Stelton), > Middlesex County. A building had been erected in 1742, which was > enlarged in 1759. The first pastor was the Rev. Benjamin Miller, who > served from February 13, 1748, until his death on November 14, 1781. > He was suceeded in 1785 by the Rev. William Van Horne. The church, > whith it's adjoining burial ground, is located on the southeast corner > of Mountin and Park avenues in Scotch Plains. > These inscriptions were first copied in 1922 by members of the > Genealogical Society of New Jersey, and subsequently supplemented by > them on November 4, 1952. The early brownstones in the graveyard are > in poor condition. Many in brackets were either missing or illegible > in 1952. An unusual number of later stones omit the age, and some > have no dates whatsoever. > Family researchers are also referred to "Scotch Plains Baptist Church > Members, 1747-1814," published in the January 1932 issue of this > magazine (Vol. 7, no. 3), and to "Scothc Plains Baptist Church > Marriage Records, 1758-1761," printed in the New Jersey Archives > (First Seried, Vol. 22). The original church records have been > microfilmed by Rutgers University Library." > > I'm sure you can get a copy of the articles referenced through > Inter-library loan. Audrey Shields Hancock has lots of information > from this cemetery, along with additional sources of information, on > her website at: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~grannyapple/NJCh-Cem/UnionCoNJSctchPlns/ScotchPlainsBptHOME.html > . While I haven't gone through it line by line, there appear to be > more people listed on the GMNJ list than on the website (the purposes > are different). > > happy hunting - > > Kathleen Pantano > > > > >> From: Mike Miller <mmiller@pcsia.net> >> To: NJUNION-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [NJUnion] Reference for Quote? >> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 21:49:52 -0600 >> >> Does anyone know about the membership list mentioned below? Is there a >> history published of these forty new members (besides the present one >> below) >> or an online source? Church Minutes book somewhere? >> >> Mike Miller >> >> From: >> >> http://www.geocities.com/baptist_documents/1871hist_spbc.html >> >> referring to Rev. Benjamin Miller of the Scotch Plains Baptist Church: >> >> "The character of the licentiate manifested itself in the work of the >> pastor. >> The new interest at Scotch Plains rapidly expanded. The list of members >> contains the names of forty persons under the same date with the >> constituent >> membership. Some of these may have united, by letters, from other >> places; but >> the most were undoubtedly baptized by the young pastor. Under date of >> June >> 11, 1748, four more names are recorded; October, 1748, sixty others. >> >> When the Philadelphia Association published its first statistical >> table, in >> 1761, Scotch Plains reported a total membership of one hundred and >> thirty-four; more than three times the numerical strength of the >> parent body >> at the same period. " >> >> >> ==== NJUNION Mailing List ==== >> www.rootsweb.com/~njunion >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >> records, go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > ==== NJUNION Mailing List ==== > www.rootsweb.com/~njunion > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Does anyone know about the membership list mentioned below? Is there a history published of these forty new members (besides the present one below) or an online source? Church Minutes book somewhere? Mike Miller From: http://www.geocities.com/baptist_documents/1871hist_spbc.html referring to Rev. Benjamin Miller of the Scotch Plains Baptist Church: "The character of the licentiate manifested itself in the work of the pastor. The new interest at Scotch Plains rapidly expanded. The list of members contains the names of forty persons under the same date with the constituent membership. Some of these may have united, by letters, from other places; but the most were undoubtedly baptized by the young pastor. Under date of June 11, 1748, four more names are recorded; October, 1748, sixty others. When the Philadelphia Association published its first statistical table, in 1761, Scotch Plains reported a total membership of one hundred and thirty-four; more than three times the numerical strength of the parent body at the same period. "

Gary, Thanks for the leads. On Schedule 3, it was in the History of Somerset Co. book and is listed online at the Somerset County site. http://www.rootsweb.com/~njsomers/landpurch.htm They have a map of early Somerset county with lot numbers and a list of land owners listed by number. The number list is not complete and nor is the map. This matches with your explanation below. So from what I am reading this legal action was due to someone kyping the record books, eh? Some things never change. ;>) So this seems to explain the uncertainity of land ownership in the following quote. He was buying a settlement to the land dispute. "Apparently "the Widow Miller" held by Elizabethtown right and sold her claim to Luke Covert in about 1740. In 1745 Covert purchased a Proprietary title from Drummond and Alexander, successors to Sir Evan Cameron, to the land southwest of the Vermeules, reaching from Clinton avenue to a little beyond Rock avenue." From History of Union Co. by Van Doren so if I am searching for information on "Widow Miller" who according to Van Doren may have been the Widow of Andrew Miller. I found an Andrew Miller deported from Scotland to New York around the Killing Times there so I wonder if they are the same. I need to write the NJ Historical Society then. Do you know when was the "Answer" filed? Mike Miller On Wednesday 12 March 2003 16:58, garymaher@juno.com wrote: > I don't think it's been reprinted. The NJ State Archives has a copy that > is actually a photocopy, so they probably wouldn't mind making copies of > it for you. The NJ Historical Society probably has at least a couple of > copies. > > The NJ Historical Society also has copies of the Answer filed by the > Elizabethtown Associates, including one copy with extensive annotations > that appear to have been written by one of the attorneys involved in the > litigation. The Answer is signed by something like 600 residents of > Elizabeth claiming property rights under the Associates. It's a good > census substitute. I don't think the list has been published anywhere. > > As far as I know, neither document contains a map of the entire layout of > lots, just a couple of small sections. The Bill was produced by the > Proprietors, so it does show their property claims, but the Associates > ended up with the property by default after the Revolution. > > What specifically is contained in Schedule 3? > > Gary Maher

I don't think it's been reprinted. The NJ State Archives has a copy that is actually a photocopy, so they probably wouldn't mind making copies of it for you. The NJ Historical Society probably has at least a couple of copies. The NJ Historical Society also has copies of the Answer filed by the Elizabethtown Associates, including one copy with extensive annotations that appear to have been written by one of the attorneys involved in the litigation. The Answer is signed by something like 600 residents of Elizabeth claiming property rights under the Associates. It's a good census substitute. I don't think the list has been published anywhere. As far as I know, neither document contains a map of the entire layout of lots, just a couple of small sections. The Bill was produced by the Proprietors, so it does show their property claims, but the Associates ended up with the property by default after the Revolution. What specifically is contained in Schedule 3? Gary Maher On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 14:12:59 -0700 NJUNION-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: >I just found a reference to "Elizabethtown Bill of Chancery, published by >James Parkser, of New york, in 1747" on the Somerset County site. >http://www.rootsweb.com/~njsomers/landpurch.htm > >Is the a reprint of this Bill of Chancery book available or does anyone know >if the rest of Schedule 3 is online somewhere? Mike Miller ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

I just found a reference to "Elizabethtown Bill of Chancery, published by James Parkser, of New york, in 1747" on the Somerset County site. http://www.rootsweb.com/~njsomers/landpurch.htm Is the a reprint of this Bill of Chancery book available or does anyone know if the rest of Schedule 3 is online somewhere? Mike Miller PS. what has happened to Google? Is it that overloaded?

Hi Shelley, Evergreen Cemetery is on the border of Hillside and Elizabeth, NJ I hope you connect to the family. Good Luck! Pat

I've "rescued" two lovely portrait photographs of Mr. & Mrs. BEEBE of Elizabeth, New Jersey which was taken there in 1875. On the back of Mr. BEEBE's photograph it notes that he was born in 1832. On the back of Mrs. BEEBE's photo it lists her name as Carrie E. BEEBE born 1836 and died September 10th, 1898. It also notes that Mrs. BEEBE is buried in the Evergreen Cemetery, but doesn't reference a city or town that it is located in. These are lovely old portrait photographs which belong with family. If you are a member of this family or know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

FYI: The NGS Quarterly 90 (Dec 2002) includes an article and transcription of "An Old Littell Family Bible" 1768-1881. It offers more info than what is found in John Littell's First Settlers of Passaic Valley for the Littell and Acken families. ---Robin

In which ED would Washington Street in Elizabeth in the 1910 census. When Elizabeth WALDRON VARICK died in 1909 in Jersey City, among her heirs were her grandchildren Albert STAIR, Jennie RINKENS, and Elizabeth STAIR of 264 Washington Street, Elizabeth. Floreda

In 1909 Elizabeth WALDRON VARICK died in Jersey City. The list of her heirs included grandchildren Albert STAIR, Jennie RICKENS, Elizabeth STAIR of 264 Washington Street, Elizabeth. I would like to find them in the 1910 census. Can anyone tell me what ED 264 Washington Street would be in? Floreda

Hello all, I just wanted to thank those who have responded to my request for gravestone photos from the Westfield Presbyterian Church Cemetery. Please keep them coming, even if you think they may have already been submitted. Your photo may be better quality, or from a better angle, and we all want the best examples for the site. Many thanks, David Kane Nashville

Hi, Dave, If your intention is to create a site accessible through your Westfield site for collecting gravestone photos in the Colonial Cemetery in Westfield, there is no sense in my being redundant with my site at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~grannyapple/NJCh-Cem/UnionCoNJChCem eteries.html I have some photos that I have collected. I will share them with you for your site rather than for my site and discontinue my site. I would rather see everything at one site rather than scattered so many places. Audrey -----Original Message----- From: NJBIRD1197@aol.com [mailto:NJBIRD1197@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:09 AM To: NJUNION-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NJUnion] Greaves Fellow Listmembers, My website - www.westfieldnj.com/firstfamilies - can also be reached at www.westfieldnewjersey.net/firstfamilies. My apologies for the downtime which it seems to experience occasionally. I cannot explain this, and it is out of my control. The site is generously hosted by the same folks who host the town of Westfield site, and for some reason it seems to be inaccessible at times. Please keep trying, as it is full of Westfield (and vicinity!) information. My next plan is to post a map of the Presbyterian Church (Colonial) Cemetery with links to photos of the gravestones. Although Harman Clark has generously provided me with many photos, which will provide a great starting point, if you have any photos of the stones (in .jpg/.gif/.tif format) please send them to me privately, and I'll post them. Best regards, David Kane Nashville TN

Fellow Listmembers, My website - www.westfieldnj.com/firstfamilies - can also be reached at www.westfieldnewjersey.net/firstfamilies. My apologies for the downtime which it seems to experience occasionally. I cannot explain this, and it is out of my control. The site is generously hosted by the same folks who host the town of Westfield site, and for some reason it seems to be inaccessible at times. Please keep trying, as it is full of Westfield (and vicinity!) information. My next plan is to post a map of the Presbyterian Church (Colonial) Cemetery with links to photos of the gravestones. Although Harman Clark has generously provided me with many photos, which will provide a great starting point, if you have any photos of the stones (in .jpg/.gif/.tif format) please send them to me privately, and I'll post them. Best regards, David Kane Nashville TN

Thank you to everyone who took time to give me the current address of the Greaves Papers. The site was responding very well last night. Dick Malkin Natick, MA

Try http://westfieldnewjersey.net/firstfamilies/greavesfiles/surnames.htm. (David's new homepage is at http://westfieldnj.com/firstfamilies/.) g ---------------------- About a year and a half ago I accessed the "Greaves Papers" at http://24.18.219.5/firstfamilies/lr6.htm. That URL does not work for me now. Does anyone know if they are still available on-line, and if so, where? Appreciate any help you can provide............ Thank you, Dick Malkin Natick, MA ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

About a year and a half ago I accessed the "Greaves Papers" at http://24.18.219.5/firstfamilies/lr6.htm. That URL does not work for me now. Does anyone know if they are still available on-line, and if so, where? Appreciate any help you can provide............ Thank you, Dick Malkin Natick, MA