I am new to this list. Does anyone know anything about CHURCH OF THE HEAVENLY REST in Plainfield, NJ? My great grandparents were married there in 1891 and in my ggrandmother's obituary in 1937 it says she was a member there. She was raised Dutch Reformed in Albany, NY, and her husband was Roman Catholic. He is buried at ST. Mary's Plainfield. ADELINE FLORENCE DENNICK HOWARTH b.1863 Albany, NY; d.1937 Elizabeth, NJ married JAMES TIMOTHY EGAN b.1868 Syracuse, NY; d. 1905 Plainfield, NJ.

Hello List Members, In the 1864/65 Directory from Newark,NJ I found this company listed. Smith and Willis,Paper Manuf.,Springfield,NJ Is anyone researching these families? I am looking for the parents and siblings of William Willis. He married Sarah HICKS and they had 2 daughters. Thank you for any information on these ancestors. Barbara Cain Brielle,NJ

I just put these up. Might be of interest to those of you from that area. Sydney and Bruce Cardner [email protected] http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4294632421

These 2 pictures I have put on the site listed below were in the box of old Plainfield pictures. We have no idea of where they were taken or what event it is. My hope is that someone on the list has similar pictures, or has some clue as to what and where. We noticed that Company K, National Guard, had many pictures of the men taken in the form of postcards. These two are post cards but not dated and no place given. Could it be Company K? Please email me personally with responses so as not to tie up the list. [email protected] Go to this site to view the 2 pictures http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4294626249 Thanks so much, Sydney Cardner

CORDWAINER not Cordswainer: 1. a maker of shoes, esp. from cordovan leather 2. a cobbler of shoes -John

I am wondering if anyone has a Llewellyn in their family. My 2nd g grandmother Jane Llewwellyn Martin was b in NY in 1802. She married in Logan co., Ohio 1/13/1823. In an article about her youngest son it says that her father was Squire Llewellyn. I do not know what part of NJ she came from. I have seen the name spelt many ways but her marriage application spelled it this way. Ruth in Ohio

Hi Judy, Does this Richard happen to be yours? Clark, Richard NY KINGS CO. 4 W. BROOKLYN 2 DI 807 1860 I searched the 1860 index for Richard Clark. Would have thought I might have found him in New Rochelle, given the birth year of his son Richard (1861) but there is no Richard Clark indexed for New Rochelle 1860. Also, of the Richard Clark above, I find him and Mary McNamee on the same page (4th Ward 2D Div. Pg. 807). McNamee is close enough to PERHAPS have been a relative of my great-great grandfather's. Very interesting. Dave McMane

Steve & Cynthia Busch wrote: > I am reserching DECKER in Elizabeth. > > I tryed to find this family in the 1920 Soundex but they did not seem > to > be listed even though I am positive they were living in Elizabeth at > this time. > > I went to the 1910 census to look because I was pretty sure I knew > where > the were living at that time. I went to the enumeration district for > their address and found that there address was not counted. I found > this > amazing since they were living in the port area and there had to have > been many families living at the same house number. I looked through > most of the other enumeration districts for that area and never found > the street address. I know it exists because I checked the city > directories for 1909, 1911 and 1913. > > Has anyone else had this problem while researching in Elizabeth. Is it > > possible the pages are out of order. > > HELLPP!! This family emigrated around 1905 so I can't look at the 1900 > > census. > > Cynthia Busch > Plantation, FL Hi Cynthia, I am far from an expert in this area and I am sure other listers will be more helpful with this but here goes. If there is a Family History Center near you, you can order films from the 1905 and 1915 NJ state census. You seem to have good information about where to look so it should be easy to pinpoint which films you need. There is also a website for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness which lists volunteers that do look-ups for specific counties all across the country. (I volunteer for the county I live in even though I have no relatives in this area.) If there is a volunteer for Union County, they might be able to access the state census at their county library and could look up the information for you as some county libraries have the state census on microfilm. The address is http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/index.htm. I just checked and unfortunately, Union County does not have a volunteer yet. Anyone on the list interested? You only commit to doing one look-up a month and I have found that it really can be a lot of fun. I hope this helps. Alice

My Concise Genealogical Dictionary by Harris says cordwainer is a shoemaker who worked in cordovan leathers. Webster's New World says cordwain is archaic for cordovan leather. Cordovan is usually split horsehide, but originally made of goatskin at Cordoba, Spain. No definition with S. ---Robin, listowner www.rootsweb.com/~njunion

I just read this in Heritage Quest magazine. Look in the 1920+/- city directory, find their street, and then see if the directory lists families in street order too. Find their neighbors and look them up in the Soundex. The indexer may have gotten your surname wrong or the page wasn't very legible. Good luck! ---Robin www.rootsweb.com/~njunion

I am reserching DECKER in Elizabeth. I tryed to find this family in the 1920 Soundex but they did not seem to be listed even though I am positive they were living in Elizabeth at this time. I went to the 1910 census to look because I was pretty sure I knew where the were living at that time. I went to the enumeration district for their address and found that there address was not counted. I found this amazing since they were living in the port area and there had to have been many families living at the same house number. I looked through most of the other enumeration districts for that area and never found the street address. I know it exists because I checked the city directories for 1909, 1911 and 1913. Has anyone else had this problem while researching in Elizabeth. Is it possible the pages are out of order. HELLPP!! This family emigrated around 1905 so I can't look at the 1900 census. Cynthia Busch Plantation, FL

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Dear Robin, Thank you for the good info. Guess I had better dust some of those dark recesses.... ;-)) Alice in Vermont

Gary, I just wanted to say I have subscribed to the list for some time now, and while I have not made a find thru it, I enjoy it a lot. Thanks for doing a good job. Rose

Cynthia, I have heard that some pages could be out of order. I looked on my partial census(where my ancestors lived), and did not see the name, although I know I went to school with Deckers..Might try with the first letter of the first name..seen that happen. Do you know approx where they lived in Elizabeth? Sorry to say, the only Decker I do have is an Anna Decker, servant in Sussex County(Sparta), in 1900. Lots of Germans living there as were Dutch. Might try the church..Know the religion? Also, the Bd. of Education for school records. Don't know how long they were kept, but it would have been Cleveland Jr. High School where I went to school with Deckers. Grace O'Kane

If anyone ever comes across a picture of the New Jersey Central Rail Road Steam Loco Camelback Engine #157, I'd like a picture. My grandfather was the engineer of this engine from the early 1900's till probably the 40's. George W.J. Kenney, Jr. E-Mail Work: [email protected] E-Mail Home: [email protected]

Hi again Judy, I just looked at the 1830 and 1840 New York Census indexes, which I can access on-line. Newburg is indeed in Orange County, but there do not seem to be any Clarks recorded there. However, there are Clarks in Deer Park and Minisink -- two areas that I've recently been led to in my research. I will check to see how close they may be to Newburg. Its possible that in reporting or recalling a birth, someone could have simply named the nearest large town. In the back of my mind, I believe I was led to Newburg in one of my vast sweeps of the 1840 census of New York State. My McM... ancestor (nine different spellings of the surname) who married Catherine Clark is missing in 1840, though the reports on births of children suggest they lived somewhere in New York at that time. I recall one or more McM... families in Newburg that looked like they could conceivably fit the profile (as you may know, the 1840 does not give any names, except for that of the head of the household.) In another coincidence (?) Catherine Clark, like your ancestor, lived in New York City (circa 1839-1850) before moving to the Summit area. All of the above has me fairly excited. Will check further and get back to you. Dave

--WebTV-Mail-13992-1496 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit BEAUTIFULLY SAID LETS MOVE ON --WebTV-Mail-13992-1496 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-101-9.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.43) by storefull-155.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 04:16:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27]) by mailsorter-101-9.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/ms.dwm.v7+dul2) with ESMTP id EAA05907; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 04:16:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from [email protected]) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA05633; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 04:14:04 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 04:14:04 -0800 (PST) From: "Harman Clark" <[email protected]> Old-To: <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 07:09:38 -0500 Message-ID: <[email protected]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Subject: [NJUNION] Postcard thread Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/1539 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] I don't mean to be Scrooge, and the enthusiasm of the messages on postcards is commendable, and in a way it is nice to see activity on this list -- but isn't it time to do the messages privately and get back to genealogy? My delete key is getting a real workout. Harman Clark --WebTV-Mail-13992-1496--

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Dear Listers: We seem to have a difference of opinion as to the Pictures which were so kindly offered to Listers (whom many seem very excited about) and I would just like to say that I think we should all be tolerant of each other and realize that everything on the List is not what we are wanting or expecting, However it might be just what someone else is looking for or interested in. So if you really are not interested just Delete it and remember that someone else might not be interested in the Things that you want and yet they tolerate it without saying a word. Genealogy also means helping and sharing with one another and we should be Happy when someone receives something of importance to them. I guess I said what I wanted to Share with all of you. Pat