My ggrandmother (Carrie Rochelle) was from Sparta, NJ. I'm just curious if the Old Mine Road that is talked about in these messages is anywhere near Sparta. I live in California and have never been to NJ so I'm 'lost'. Thanks for any help. [email protected] wrote: > ATTACHMENT part 1 message/rfc822 NJSUSSEX-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 13 Today's Topics: #1 gazetteer ["Flower Child" #2 RE: [NJSUSSEX-L] Fw: Minisink regi ["Nancy Pascal" ] #3 Re: [NJSUSSEX-L] gazetteer [] #4 Re: [NJSUSSEX-L] gazetteer ["R.Musselman" ] #5 RE: [NJSUSSEX-L] Fw: Minisink regi ["Bellis Genealogy" Administrivia: To unsubscribe from NJSUSSEX-D, send a message to [email protected] that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:55:09 -0500 From: "Flower Child" To: [email protected] Subject: gazetteer Hi Helen, I think it is a great idea and you will let me know when you finish so I can buy one. I would give a call to the Park Service Historian or take a look at their website. Thanks Michelle Learn about Pike Co., Pa. http://pages.ivillage.com/lilykintner/ ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 11:44:53 -0500 From: "Nancy Pascal" To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [NJSUSSEX-L] Fw: Minisink region villages, places, names & their ocations At my web site under 'FYI' there is a Geographical Dictionary for Sussex Co., NJ. It's been a while since I posted that so I can't remember if there's much for along the 'Old Mine Road'. There is a book, "Old Mine Road -Trail for Indians and Early Settlers" by Ameilia Stickney Decker (1932) published by Wantage Record Press, Sussex, NJ. The Book Shelf in Newton should have copies available. Nancy Pascal [email protected] > [Original Message] > From: Helen Graves > To: > Date: 2/1/2005 3:44:53 PM > Subject: [NJSUSSEX-L] Fw: Minisink region villages, places, names & their ocations > > > Does anyone know if a sort of a glossary exists which lists the villages, settlement areas, forts and early churches along the Old Mine Road from Kingston (Esopus) down into the Minisink region ? Most of the old deeds and church records list Indian names for settlements of the late 1600s into the 1700s whose names were changed and appear on no modern-day maps. > > What I am looking for (to save myself from preparing such a list) is a glossary of names then and names now and where they are located now so I can add annotations about the settlement, the earliest settlers, and their forts: > > Name Name, Location, Description > > Flatbrookville ..................... on the Delaware River, Sussex Co., NJ; 1738 first grist mill built on the river at > Flatbrookville. It was the only grist mill serving this area of Sussex Co. for many years. > > Machackemeck .................. aka Nahant in 1759. In 1826, incorporated into Port Jervis. Located in southern Orange Co., NY, near the NJ border. > > Mamakating ....................... became Deerpark.in 1798. > > Minisink Village .................. 8 miles below Port Jervis on the Old Mine Road; in the present town of > Montague, Sussex Co., NJ; it was the site of the Minisink Indian Village > > Nahant ................................. 1759 known as Nahant. See Machackemeck and Port Jervis. > > Neversink Settlement ......... located in the area of Port Jervis, southern Orange Co., NY > > Namenoch, Nominack, > Nomenack ......................... now Sandyston. Capt Johannes Westbrook settled here on the Sandyston side of the stream . On the other side of the stream, in Montague, Daniel Westfall settled. > In 1739, this was the most important (and well-settled) area in the valley. It had a stone fort. It was opposite Minisink and Namenoch Island. > > Peenpack or Pynpack ...... often referred to as "the Peenpack neighborhood". North of Port Jervis. This area > had an "upper neighborhood" and a "lower neighborhood". > > Peenpack Forts .................. Three forts were built in the Peenpack Neighborhood -- one on the Neversink not far from Cuddebackville, one at the house of Peter Gumaer, and one at the house of William Westfall. Three other forts were built nearer to the Delaware River. > They were: > > Shapanach ........................... just south of Namenack/Sandyston. In 1735 Adam Dingman purch. land here. > > Shawangunk ........................ > > > Helen Graves > in Calif. ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 4 message/rfc822 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 11:45:06 -0500 From: To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NJSUSSEX-L] gazetteer I will have to check my notes and see if I have her name, but there is a woman who works for the Park Service at Delaware Water Gap in the building on I-80 who is very familar with the area. I met her a few years ago and she formerly lived in Hampton Twp. Sussex Co. and was a wealth of information. Rick Lane > > From: "Flower Child" > Date: 2005/02/02 Wed AM 10:55:09 EST > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NJSUSSEX-L] gazetteer > > Hi Helen, > I think it is a great idea and you will let me know when you finish so I can buy one. I would give a call to the Park Service Historian or take a look at their website. > Thanks Michelle > Learn about Pike Co., Pa. > http://pages.ivillage.com/lilykintner/ > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 5 message/rfc822 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 12:06:53 -0500 From: "R.Musselman" To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NJSUSSEX-L] gazetteer The person you are searching for is Susan Kopcczynski, historian for the National Park Service. I believe they have recently moved their offices which had been in Bushkill, PA and I do not have current contact info. A call to the park service would probably provide the information. Dick Musselman Family History Research & Photography Nazareth, PA ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [NJSUSSEX-L] gazetteer > I will have to check my notes and see if I have her name, but there is a woman who works for the Park Service at Delaware Water Gap in the building on I-80 who is very familar with the area. I met her a few years ago and she formerly lived in Hampton Twp. Sussex Co. and was a wealth of information. > > Rick Lane > > > > From: "Flower Child" > > Date: 2005/02/02 Wed AM 10:55:09 EST > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [NJSUSSEX-L] gazetteer > > > > Hi Helen, > > I think it is a great idea and you will let me know when you finish so I can buy one. I would give a call to the Park Service Historian or take a look at their website. > > Thanks Michelle > > Learn about Pike Co., Pa. > > http://pages.ivillage.com/lilykintner/ > > > > > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 6 message/rfc822 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:14:58 -0500 From: "Bellis Genealogy" To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [NJSUSSEX-L] Fw: Minisink region villages, places, names & their ocations You can also find the book online at HERITAGE QUEST if you have a subscription to this service. If not, perhaps your local library subscribes to HQ that you can view on their computers. Some libraries even allow their patrons to log on remotely from their home computers. Roz Bellis Alexandria VA -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Pascal [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 11:45 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [NJSUSSEX-L] Fw: Minisink region villages, places, names & their ocations At my web site under 'FYI' there is a Geographical Dictionary for Sussex Co., NJ. It's been a while since I posted that so I can't remember if there's much for along the 'Old Mine Road'. There is a book, "Old Mine Road -Trail for Indians and Early Settlers" by Ameilia Stickney Decker (1932) published by Wantage Record Press, Sussex, NJ. The Book Shelf in Newton should have copies available. Nancy Pascal [email protected]
I too live in California but know the five counties of Northwest New Jersey fairly well; Sussex, Warren, Morris, Hunterdon, and Somerset. If you search on "Skylands, NJ" it offers a current map of these five counties and a listing of events and trips possible. The southern terminus of the Old Mine Road begins in Warren County on the NJ side of the Delaware River just before Interstate 80 crosses into Pennsylvania, Sparta is in the southeastern part of Sussex County on State Route 15. I have many ancestors buried in the Sparta Presbyterian Church Yard. Robert S. "BoB" Lanterman of San Diego, CA 92128 ----- Original Message ----- From: "JUDY DEGENNARO" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 8:05 AM Subject: [NJSUSSEX-L] Re: NJSUSSEX-D Digest V05 #13 > My ggrandmother (Carrie Rochelle) was from Sparta, NJ. I'm just curious if the Old Mine Road that is talked about in these messages is anywhere near Sparta. I live in California and have never been to NJ so I'm 'lost'. Thanks for any help. > > [email protected] wrote: > > > ATTACHMENT part 1 message/rfc822 > > NJSUSSEX-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 13 > > Today's Topics: > #1 gazetteer ["Flower Child" #2 RE: [NJSUSSEX-L] Fw: Minisink regi ["Nancy Pascal" > ] > #3 Re: [NJSUSSEX-L] gazetteer [] > #4 Re: [NJSUSSEX-L] gazetteer ["R.Musselman" ] > #5 RE: [NJSUSSEX-L] Fw: Minisink regi ["Bellis Genealogy" > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from NJSUSSEX-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:55:09 -0500 > From: "Flower Child" > To: [email protected] > Subject: gazetteer > > Hi Helen, > I think it is a great idea and you will let me know when you finish so I can buy one. I would give a call to the Park Service Historian or take a look at their website. > Thanks Michelle > Learn about Pike Co., Pa. > http://pages.ivillage.com/lilykintner/ > > ______________________________ > > > ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822 > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 11:44:53 -0500 > From: "Nancy Pascal" > > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [NJSUSSEX-L] Fw: Minisink region villages, places, names & their ocations > > At my web site under 'FYI' there is a Geographical Dictionary for Sussex > Co., NJ. It's been a while since I posted that so I can't remember if > there's much for along the 'Old Mine Road'. There is a book, "Old Mine > Road -Trail for Indians and Early Settlers" by Ameilia Stickney Decker > (1932) published by Wantage Record Press, Sussex, NJ. The Book Shelf in > Newton should have copies available. > > Nancy Pascal > [email protected] > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Helen Graves > > To: > > Date: 2/1/2005 3:44:53 PM > > Subject: [NJSUSSEX-L] Fw: Minisink region villages, places, names & their > ocations > > > > > > Does anyone know if a sort of a glossary exists which lists the villages, > settlement areas, forts and early churches along the Old Mine Road from > Kingston (Esopus) down into the Minisink region ? Most of the old deeds > and church records list Indian names for settlements of the late 1600s into > the 1700s whose names were changed and appear on no modern-day maps. > > > > What I am looking for (to save myself from preparing such a list) is a > glossary of names then and names now and where they are located now so I > can add annotations about the settlement, the earliest settlers, and their > forts: > > > > Name Name, Location, Description > > > > Flatbrookville ..................... on the Delaware River, Sussex Co., > NJ; 1738 first grist mill built on the river at > > Flatbrookville. It was > the only grist mill serving this area of Sussex Co. for many > years. > > > > Machackemeck .................. aka Nahant in 1759. In 1826, incorporated > into Port Jervis. Located > in southern Orange Co., NY, near the NJ border. > > > > Mamakating ....................... became Deerpark.in 1798. > > > > Minisink Village .................. 8 miles below Port Jervis on the Old > Mine Road; in the present town of > > Montague, Sussex Co., NJ; > it was the site of the Minisink Indian Village > > > > Nahant ................................. 1759 known as Nahant. See > Machackemeck and Port Jervis. > > > > Neversink Settlement ......... located in the area of Port Jervis, > southern Orange Co., NY > > > > Namenoch, Nominack, > > Nomenack ......................... now Sandyston. Capt Johannes > Westbrook settled here on the Sandyston side of > the stream . On the other side of the stream, in Montague, Daniel Westfall > settled. > > In 1739, this was the > most important (and well-settled) area in the valley. It had a > stone fort. It was opposite Minisink and Namenoch Island. > > > > Peenpack or Pynpack ...... often referred to as "the Peenpack > neighborhood". North of Port Jervis. This area > > had an "upper > neighborhood" and a "lower neighborhood". > > > > Peenpack Forts .................. Three forts were built in the Peenpack > Neighborhood -- one on the Neversink not > far from Cuddebackville, one at the house of Peter Gumaer, and one at the > house of William Westfall. > Three other forts were built nearer to the Delaware River. > > They were: > > > > Shapanach ........................... just south of Namenack/Sandyston. > In 1735 Adam Dingman purch. land here. > > > > Shawangunk ........................ > > > > > > Helen Graves > > in Calif. > > ______________________________ > > > ATTACHMENT part 4 message/rfc822 > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 11:45:06 -0500 > From: > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NJSUSSEX-L] gazetteer > > I will have to check my notes and see if I have her name, but there is a woman who works for the Park Service at Delaware Water Gap in the building on I-80 who is very familar with the area. I met her a few years ago and she formerly lived in Hampton Twp. Sussex Co. and was a wealth of information. > > Rick Lane > > > > From: "Flower Child" > > Date: 2005/02/02 Wed AM 10:55:09 EST > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [NJSUSSEX-L] gazetteer > > > > Hi Helen, > > I think it is a great idea and you will let me know when you finish so I can buy one. I would give a call to the Park Service Historian or take a look at their website. > > Thanks Michelle > > Learn about Pike Co., Pa. > > http://pages.ivillage.com/lilykintner/ > > > > > > ______________________________ > > > ATTACHMENT part 5 message/rfc822 > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 12:06:53 -0500 > From: "R.Musselman" > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NJSUSSEX-L] gazetteer > > The person you are searching for is Susan Kopcczynski, historian for the > National Park Service. I believe they have recently moved their offices > which had been in Bushkill, PA and I do not have current contact info. A > call to the park service would probably provide the information. > Dick Musselman > Family History Research & Photography > Nazareth, PA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 11:45 AM > Subject: Re: [NJSUSSEX-L] gazetteer > > > > I will have to check my notes and see if I have her name, but there is a > woman who works for the Park Service at Delaware Water Gap in the building > on I-80 who is very familar with the area. I met her a few years ago and > she formerly lived in Hampton Twp. Sussex Co. and was a wealth of > information. > > > > Rick Lane > > > > > > From: "Flower Child" > > > Date: 2005/02/02 Wed AM 10:55:09 EST > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [NJSUSSEX-L] gazetteer > > > > > > Hi Helen, > > > I think it is a great idea and you will let me know when you finish so I > can buy one. I would give a call to the Park Service Historian or take a > look at their website. > > > Thanks Michelle > > > Learn about Pike Co., Pa. > > > http://pages.ivillage.com/lilykintner/ > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > > ATTACHMENT part 6 message/rfc822 > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:14:58 -0500 > From: "Bellis Genealogy" > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [NJSUSSEX-L] Fw: Minisink region villages, places, names & their ocations > > You can also find the book online at HERITAGE QUEST if you have a > subscription to this service. If not, perhaps your local library subscribes > to HQ that you can view on their computers. Some libraries even allow their > patrons to log on remotely from their home computers. > > Roz Bellis > Alexandria VA > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nancy Pascal [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 11:45 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [NJSUSSEX-L] Fw: Minisink region villages, places, names & > their ocations > > At my web site under 'FYI' there is a Geographical Dictionary for Sussex > Co., NJ. It's been a while since I posted that so I can't remember if > there's much for along the 'Old Mine Road'. There is a book, "Old Mine > Road -Trail for Indians and Early Settlers" by Ameilia Stickney Decker > (1932) published by Wantage Record Press, Sussex, NJ. The Book Shelf in > Newton should have copies available. > > Nancy Pascal > [email protected] > >