From my posting Monday on Emigration to Canada from NJ after the Revolution, from email received it appears that some believe, or I gave the impression; that I had done a study on those who emigrated from NJ after the Revolution, NOT SO. I started out researching Jacob Smith Sr., who married Elizabeth Lewis c. 1761, and who emigrated in the summer of 1788 with his wife and 13 children. Two children were married to children of Henry Huffman of Knowlton Twp.; and had 5 children. All evidence indicates they were accompanied to Canada by John Book Sr., his wife and 6 children. The Smith children generally married into other "Loyalist" families from NJ, some being unrelated Smiths. In trying to sort the intermarriages out, I became involved with delving into other family names. So I don't have a database of all emigres from NJ after the revolution, just the names of a few. [Nor do I have all their NJ relatives on file.] In time, a sort of a rough coalition of researchers has evolved. We are generally all blood cousins, and all trying to make sense out of all the various interplays, both in Canada and the US. We share, and both try and correct errors in earlier work and expand the descendants [and often interplays]. And so my NJ origin names grew, as well as my database showing the relationships, and contacts with other researchers with NJ ancestors that settled in the Niagara peninsula. In some cases I may have only one occurence of a surname- the spouse of someone. In other cases, I have a name and no birthplace; hence the individual would not appear on the list/count even if born in NJ. `````````````````````` My purpose in posting was in response to Kelsey Jone's comments that the historians have downplayed the size of the exodus after the Revolution, and to give a rough indication of one researcher's findings. I thought my response might help broaden our insights into one area of our common past. In addition, my readings of the early NJ history appears to have been "revised". [A not uncommon practice of historians/movie makers IMHO.] Hence trying to get meaningful insights on contributions made can become difficult. As I compare notes with others, we often comment/ask, "Who was left in Sussex Co. after this exodus?" There are so many in Canada. And as whole families emigrated, we rarely see any one asking about our families on the List. But like prospectors, we occasionally strike "gold" just by lurking. `````````````````````````` Now I'll ask for help- anyone stumble on any references to my elusive Jacob Smith Sr.(1739-1821), who married Elizabeth Lewis (1741-1790) c. 1761? We are told they spoke German, and lived 4 miles from Log Gaol. As the two oldest children married the oldest of Henry Huffman of Knowlton Twp., one would think the Smiths were close by. Lots of evidence on the Huffman's is available, some on the Books, but on Jacob and family- zilch. Rateables, land, church, etc. I am aware of him being the supposed son of Mathias of Hunterdon Co., but I can find no evidence to support this claim. [Lots of new stuff on Mathias & family however. :-))] This link started in the late 1930s, following the discovery of a reference in the "Early Germans of NJ" [and incidentally this info contains errors when compared to the source.] Can anyone comment that he might have lived in Pennsylvania, and families moved back and forth? -- Ronald (RON) Cox, U.E., 74 Brunswick Dr., Beaconsfield, QC, H9W 5H2, CAN <roncox@cam.org> "He, who takes no interest in the history of his ancestors, does not deserve to be remembered by his posterity." The box said "Requires Windows 95 or Better", so I bought a Macintosh !! Ireland to Quebec City, Canada in 1818 - The Talbot Party from Cork. Includes information on a constructed list (not a manifest) of the settlers: http://www.cam.org/~roncox/Talbot_Emigration.html Sharing is contagious. Unless you tell me otherwise, sharing with me is assumed as permission to share with others. Much of the data I share is data others have shared with me and unverified by me personally. :-)