Thanks to all who responded so quickly. Now you see my frustration w/ this family! We have 3 genealogies w/ different versions of the same folks. At least now I have some concrete info on them thanks to you guys. Cynthia, It's very curious that the Van vliet genealogy has John living until c1811. I wonder if Maria remarried & that's when her 2nd husband died? I need to surf the net & look , but I'm *almost certain* John Courtrights name is listed on the Battle of Wyoming Memorial. This group DID go to Franklin co.,OH , & they would have had to pass through Jefferson Co.,OH which is where my John was. Was he w/ them & decided to stop? :>) I'd love to plug into this branch somewhere b/c I could keep all my Rosenkranz ancestors! Cindy