Cindy, Would you kindly tell me where you found "Toomes Chambers, Surgeon" in the Kingston Church Records"? I can find a "Toomes (Thomas) Swartwout" as a wit. in 1662 for his Gson Antoni but no "Toomes Chambers, Surgeon" anywhere. There was a "Thomas Chambers" in Ulster Co. during this time period who was also seen as "Thomas the Clabbort" (for his use of wooden clapboards to finish the exterior of houses) and "Toomes" as a bp. witness. This Thomas was "Lord of the Manor of Fox Hall" in Ulster Co., NY but he never left Kingston. He also had no children. Cynthia In a message dated 06/10/2000 5:38:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cindyo@va.prestige.net writes: << As early as 1662 I find reference to a "Toomes Chambers, Surgeon" in the Kingston Church Records, but of course I have no idea if they are the same family that went to Sussex Co., NJ & then on to PA w/ my John Cortright. >>