Catherine, Thank you for your lovely message to new subscribers. While I am not new to the list, I am one of the many peripheral members of the list. The secret to a good lis is a good listowner who makes it seem like the list runs itself. This is a very good list with many helpful people. Paula Lewis Picken Sussex Names: Goble, Ingersoll, Snover, Boss, Roy, Waldorf, Wintermute