In a message dated 3/29/2007 11:58:03 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, allaboutgenealogy@yahoo.com writes: Here is a question that has been bugging me a while: Why would someone who is known to have fought in the Revolutionary War move from the states to Canada after the War (where at least a few of his children were born; I think in Ontario), then back to the United States (in this case, Niagara Co., NY)? I have heard of those who were either opposed to the War or those who remained loyal to the King moving to Canada after the War, but not a patriot...just seemed a bit odd. Any thoughts? My two guesses on this is they may have moved to Canada if there was some economic advantage. Was there a land giveaway? Or my second thought was they moved to be near family but fond the life not to their liking. Just two shots in the dark. Laurence Still searching for my lost LANTZ - LANCE family ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hi Marijane, Yes, this would be the same Jonas Smith family. In the Dutch Reform Church records from Walpack Township I was looking at Wednesday night at LDS, there were three children born to Jonas and Anna Maria who are not referenced in other information on the family. They are: Margaret, born Jan. 29, 1797 to Jonas Smith and wife Ana Maria and baptized Jan. 7, 1798; John Philip, born Oct. 28, 1798 to Jonas Smith and Anna Mary; and Barbara, born Aug. 24, 1804 to Jonas Smith and Anna Maria (their baptism dates were noted; I just didn't copy them down). I am interested in Margaret as my great, great, great grandfather Ziba Nichols married a Margaret Smith in Nov. 1816 (I can't confirm that date yet, but I do know her name was Margaret Smith and she was born in NJ). My ggggrandfather was born in 1795 and I assume his Margaret was born around the same time. The Margaret mentioned in the DRC records was born in 1797 in Sussex County, so all that fits -- but I don't know if this is the right Margaret Smith. Here's a link to the family line someone e-mailed me last night: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~vgdeagan/schmidt.htm <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/%7Evgdeagan/schmidt.htm> I just noticed that, according to the that link, Jonas didn't purchase land in Walpack Township until April 1797. But perhaps he and the family were living there before that (perhaps with family) and Margaret was indeed born there. Lots of questions and few answers. I will look forward to hearing from your husband. Thanks again. Debbie Bleger MarijaneM@aol.com wrote: >Hi, >I'm not the expert on Jonas Smith, he is out skiing. >If we have the same Jonas Smith,(1763-1828) he is my gggrandfather's, >brother. I have Jonas's parents as John and Catherine Smith. Jonas's wife was Anna >Maria LaBar and I have >four children; Jacob, William, Philip and Mary Ann. >The smith's were a large family and I can get all the Johns, Jonas confused. >But when Ben get home from skiing I will give him you e-mail. I will forward >it to him. >Marijane > > > >************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJSUSSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Thanks Shirley, didn't know what happened to George. There are several "Wean" family in First Pres. Church Cem. in Succasunna. Olieva and Hawley are not listed, which I learned does not mean much. We have all these Sickles from Byram area and cannot connect them. I have some more pieces that I will post, as I sort thru them. May help someone. I collected a lot looking for George R. Sickles Sr and Jr., still have not found names for any of George Sr. other children, or anything else about George R. Sr. Karen, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Shirley Harlow To: NJSUSSEX@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:46 PM Subject: [NJSUSSEX] Gilson/Sickles Mary Catherine, aka "Kitty" GILSON's maiden name was SICKLES. She was a sister to my great-grandmother, Lydia Jane SICKLES QUAIL. Son George GILSON was killed in a terrible accident on the railroad. A daughter, Olieva GILSON, married Hawley WEAN in Succasunna. I don't know anything about the third child - probably died in infancy. Shirley in Ohio, but from NJ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJSUSSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I'm not the expert on Jonas Smith, he is out skiing. If we have the same Jonas Smith,(1763-1828) he is my gggrandfather's, brother. I have Jonas's parents as John and Catherine Smith. Jonas's wife was Anna Maria LaBar and I have four children; Jacob, William, Philip and Mary Ann. The smith's were a large family and I can get all the Johns, Jonas confused. But when Ben get home from skiing I will give him you e-mail. I will forward it to him. Marijane ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Jack Russell Lamkin, has this family on his database. Not sure if from familysearch.,org or from one of gene sites. Henry DECKER STRUBLE married MARY Ellen NEWMAN. Henry son of Peter STRUBLE and Philanda DECKER. Not sure if this helps anyone further. pat cw ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Mary Catherine, aka "Kitty" GILSON's maiden name was SICKLES. She was a sister to my great-grandmother, Lydia Jane SICKLES QUAIL. Son George GILSON was killed in a terrible accident on the railroad. A daughter, Olieva GILSON, married Hawley WEAN in Succasunna. I don't know anything about the third child - probably died in infancy. Shirley in Ohio, but from NJ

Debbie, Searching the NJSussex archives shows a Jonas Smith buried in Lower Walpack Cemetery, born 1763, died 1828. The cemetery was one of the ones cataloged and slated to be moved for the Tocks Island Dam project. It is located a mile north of Flatbrookville, west of the Old Mine Road. There was also a reference to the Drylands church in Northampton Co., PA so I googled it and found Virginia Deagan's website which appears to outline your Jonas Smith's parents quite nicely... http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~vgdeagan/schmidt.htm Hope this helped, Cath

Is anyone tracking a Jonas Smith of Walpack Township? According to some information Nancy Pascal sent me, Jonas Smith was born about 1770 to John and Elisabeth Smith. In looking at records of the Dutch Reform Church of Walpack, Jonas was married to Anna Maria (or Anna Mary) and the father of at least three children who were baptized in the church: Margaret, born Jan. 29, 1797 John Philip, born Oct. 28, 1798 Barbara, born Aug. 24, 1804 I am particularly interested in Margaret. If anyone has more information on this family, I would like to hear from you. Debbie Bleger Researching Nichols and Smith in Morris and Sussex counties

All from the Stanhope Eagle newspaper, a publication from Stanhope, NJ produced weekly on a Wednesday. 25 Jul 1894 - Having been requested to give a short history of the CASKEY family, by your permission, I wouald say being one of the oldest now living of that name, I can only say for a certainty that my grandfather and one brother and sister are all that can be traced at the present. Their father came from the north of Ireland or the south of Scotland, and had the "Mac" attached to the name. William CASKEY was the father of Robert, Christopher, William, John, Samuel and Peggy, Betsy and Jane. He died on the place where R. D. CASKEY now lives. His brother Robert lived in the Hackettstown valley and had a son Robert and four daughters, who lived, married and died in that vicinity; of whom the oldest descendant now living is William CASKEY of Morristown. The family branched out by the girls into the MARTINs, VALENTINEs, CUMMINGs and MORGANs. The sister of the two brothers married William DURLAND, and his descendants were Robert, John, and Peter. Phoebe, the wife of John, was a BROWN and the wife of Robert was a SALMON and Peter married a SOVERIGHN, whose descendants ran into the VANTYLE family, of whom Abram SMITH, of Ridgefield Park, is a descendant in this state. 17 Apr 1895 - While a large number of guests were assembled on Tuesday of last week at the home of William HILES, of Papakating, to witness the marriage of his daughter to Bertrand SMITH of Branchville, the floor gave way and they fell into the cellar, a distance of eight feet. The women screams, several fainted and a few were badly bruised. The bride and bridegroom were in the center of the crowd. The ceremony followed one half hour after the accident. 24 Apr 1895 - Mr. A. V. SMITH of Ridgefield Park, NJ is a businessman of that place which is a town springing up about 10 miles north of Hoboken. Mr. SMITHs ancestry is all from this place - the SMITHs, DURLANDs, and VANTYLEs. The DURLAND lineage of the family can be traced to William DURLAND, who married a SALMON and moved to the Lake country about 100 years ago. The VANTYLE family comes down from Abraham VANTYLE of Revolutionary fame, who it is said the British sent a a bomb into our army and Uncle Abraham ran and dug the fuse out of it and put another in and sent it back at the ship, and sunk the whole cargo, thus indicating the final overthrow of the British power in the earlier stages of the war. Uncle Abraham died at that place where the OSBORN mine is, and Mahlon KINNAN laid him out after his death. He received his pension of $96 per year until the last years of his long life of over 90 years. He was the father of Daniel VANTYLE, the grandfather of A. V. SMITH of Ridgefield Park and J. M. SMITH of Chicago, Ill. and others of the SMITH line can be traced from Christopher C. SMITH down to the present SMITHs, Christopher Smith's father having left NJ about a century ago without selling his real estate or getting any compensation for it, and it was gobbled up by others. The present A. V. SMITH has two sons living in Chicago, Ill. and has twice married; the present wife is from Buffalo, NY. Mr. Peter DURLAND, the brother of Robert, raised a large family and all are dead except Hannah Jane, who was the youngest daughter and is now about 70 years of age and who married Mr. NICHOLS and is now residing in Harlem, NY and owns several farms embracing the one recently owned by Henry DURLAND, deceased, of Hector, NY. She had four sons, all living and some are in the manufacturing business in the upper part of New York City, where they have amassed large fortunes. 8 May 1895 - Mrs. ROSE and son William will, after the sale on Saturday, live with her son-in-law, Mahlon WOODRUFF while the aged Mrs. HUNT will abide with James CHAMBERLAIN. Nathaniel ROSE, one of out oldest residents, died on Friday last aged 74 years. He was one of five generations represented. His mother, Mrs. Lydia HUNT, aged 94 years attended his funeral as well as his great-grandchild. He was buried in Andover on Monday. 15 May 1895 - John BROSS, who had a paralytic stroke last week, died at the home of his grandson, Alfred MASE, on Thursday. He was about 85 years of age and is survived by one daughter, Mrs. Phillip STARK of Flanders. He was a good millwright, a well known character and a very intelligent man. 22 May 1895 - Edward HANEY of NY was visiting with his brother Uzal of Stanhope. Together they will go visit his father in Branchville next week. A little excitement was caused among the young people with the arrest of John STACKPOLE for riding his bicycle on Netcong's sidewalks. He was taken before Justice of the Peace CAMPBELL whom we heard could find no law to cover the case and so he was released from custody. We rather think that the arrest of bicycle riders is rather premature, considering the present condition of the streets, which is a conglomeration of cinders, round stone, gutter wash and dirt. 26 Jun 1895 - Mrs. Eleanor BLANCHARD of Rockaway die don Monday aged 88 years leaving eight children including Theodore BLANCHARD of Netcong. 31 Jul 1895 - William KINNANs wife and son, of Princeton, Illinois, were visiting over at George DRAKEs. She is the daughter of the late Seneca WISE. 11 Sep 1895 - At the home of the bride's mother in Port Morris, August 24, 1895, by Rev. J. E. Appley, Miss Elizabeth QUAIL to Mr. William SHAY of Stanhope. 25 Sep 1895 - Thomas IRWIN of Dover carried out a grudge on Friday against his latest son-in-lawm O. P. HOUSE by putting paris green in the coffee pot. HOUSE had his breakfast but the watchfulness of Rosie COLWELL, a daughter of Mrs. HOUSE's by a former husband, frustrated his plans. Mrs. HOUSE swore out a warrant for the arrest of her father. 23 Oct 1895 - Mr. and Mrs. F. H. DAVIS of Binghamton were visiting with the family of Robert PRUDEN in Stanhope. 11 Dec 1895 - Henry VANDYKE of Morristown died Wednesday of last week aged 72 years, burial ar Mt. Olive Cemetery. He married a daughter of Joseph SANDERS of Budd Lake who was called a Connecticut Yankee having come from that state at a young age to marry and raise quite a family of children of which the deceased married Emily and raised another family of six children, three boys and three girls - one is dead, two are living in Morristown, one at Summit, Jacob VALENTINE's wife of this place and one out West. The deceased came here from Sommerville over the mountain to here some forty years ago. 18 Dec 1895 - Frank BEST, of Philadelphia, Penn. was visiting with parents Mr. and Mrs. D. L. BEST. 25 Dec 1895 - Harry BEST of Stanhope married Miss Emma ZEAK, daughter of Thomas ZEAK on Weds. of last week. They were married by Rev. W. S. Gallaway at the Dover M. E. parsonage. A reception was given in Stanhope by his parents, Mr. and Mrs. William HARTMAN and sister Miss Daisy BEST. Also attending were the Misses Susie & Luella ZEAK, sisters of the bride, Martha & Eliza BEST, Lucy DAVIS, Gussie CURL and Nellie EASTWICK and the Messrs. Fred WARD, Alvah SMITH, Clark McMICKLE, William DAVIS, Robert INSCHO and Edsom PIERCE. Hope this was of interest, Cath

The easy part of your question is why did they go to Canada. Immediately after the Revolutionary War, many veterans became somewhat disillusioned with the federal and state governments since promises made to them of land were not fulfilled. In some cases, speculators stepped in and virtually stole the land from the vets. One such man was Tobias Maybee of Dutchess County who had served several years during the war, and then in the mid-1790s he left with his young family and moved to Canada where he joined his cousin John Mabee, a Sussex County Loyalist who had moved to Canada in the 1780s. The second part of your question has a similar answer. At various points in time, some Loyalists (and others who had belatedly gone to Canada in search of land grants) who had removed to Canada at Wars end also became disillusioned (this time with the British) when promises of land went unfulfilled. Ultimately, Buffalo was a convenient point on the frontier, with access to the great lakes for migration to points west. Steve In a message dated 3/29/2007 1:57:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, allaboutgenealogy@yahoo.com writes: Here is a question that has been bugging me a while: Why would someone who is known to have fought in the Revolutionary War move from the states to Canada after the War (where at least a few of his children were born; I think in Ontario), then back to the United States (in this case, Niagara Co., NY)? I have heard of those who were either opposed to the War or those who remained loyal to the King moving to Canada after the War, but not a patriot...just seemed a bit odd. Any thoughts? ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

The same question has crossed my radar in the past couple of days. In researching the Terwilliger family, which moved from New Palz, Ulster Co., NY to Sussex Co. and surrounding areas in NJ by the time of the Revolution, it appears they were mainly Loyalists; some males moved to Canada and were not involved in the fight, yet others were officers in the Revolution from NJ, but departed afterward for Canada with their families. Maybe they decided to reform the family in Canada; although I think some of the Terwilligers remained in NJ. Some emgires did return to the bosom of their family in the U.S. years later, possibly from old-age care issues. Also Niagara, NY/CN saw fighting in the War of 1812, in 1813 (War: 1812-14). U.S. gave back the spoils of war in the way of Canadian land, essentially abandoning it, almost at once. Perhaps after a few decades with the U.S. prospering, the issue of old "loyalism" didn't mean as much, since the Colonials won! S. Pearce Gene Love <allaboutgenealogy@yahoo.com> wrote: Here is a question that has been bugging me a while: Why would someone who is known to have fought in the Revolutionary War move from the states to Canada after the War (where at least a few of his children were born; I think in Ontario), then back to the United States (in this case, Niagara Co., NY)? I have heard of those who were either opposed to the War or those who remained loyal to the King moving to Canada after the War, but not a patriot...just seemed a bit odd. Any thoughts? --------------------------------- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJSUSSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV.

Here is a question that has been bugging me a while: Why would someone who is known to have fought in the Revolutionary War move from the states to Canada after the War (where at least a few of his children were born; I think in Ontario), then back to the United States (in this case, Niagara Co., NY)? I have heard of those who were either opposed to the War or those who remained loyal to the King moving to Canada after the War, but not a patriot...just seemed a bit odd. Any thoughts? --------------------------------- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started.

Hi, Well, I do know that Holland was the trade crossroads (land and sea) of Europe, Africa and Asia and the Dutch used many names of Latin and Greek origin and changed them to suit their language, hence Clarinda is a corruption of the Latin for Clara meaning "bright", corrupted by the French originally to Clarinda, per a very old book I have that was my mothers. Of course before our Dutch ancestors were Protestant (Presbyterian, RDC,etc) they were influenced by the Catholic Church and Saints names. Blandina (fem) originates from the Latin male form Blandinus/Blandus. I love how the Dutch added the "tje" and "ke" to denote the younger females in the households. Marilyn in CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Pearce" <sharpearce@yahoo.com> To: "NJSussex email" <njsussex@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 6:25 AM Subject: [NJSUSSEX] Dutch names Blandina, the Martyr, Clarinda, and Maryann > Hello, > > Has anyone knowledge of the Dutch names that produce Clarinda, or > Maryann? > > Has anyone seen Blandina (a martyred saint in 177 A.D. in Lyon, France) > as interchangeable with Clarinda? Thinking it might be a French Hugenot > name. She was the patron saint of "those who have false things said about > them, girls, and those who are tortured." Given Hugenot and Dutch > history, it is interesting the name doesn't come up more often in the NY > and NJ. > > Blandina der Martyrerin (Blandina the Martyr) - perhaps was pronounced > Mar (long a) - ie - en (?), and translated into Maryann? > > Has anyone seen the Dutch name, daughter of Aaron, "Aarientje," > pronounced (long a) Aar-ie-n'e, or Maryann? > > I have searched some Dutch name sites online and just learned it was > important for Dutch females to identify their father's name in their > middle name, hence the female version of a male name, Aarien, or Aaron > might be Aarientje. > > Thank you. > S. Pearce > > > --------------------------------- > Finding fabulous fares is fun. > Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and > hotel bargains. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJSUSSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well, this eliminates Sarah as being the dau of Moses. She was born Sep 1821 and his dau was Apr 1827. Thanks for helping me sort this out. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: <godogs@frontiernet.net> To: <njsussex@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:58 AM Subject: [NJSUSSEX] GREEN, Moses & John Sprague GREEN family info > Here is more info I found in my files on the GREEN family. > That's all I have on this family and I have no real connection to them. > Hope it will be of help to someone. > Sue > > MOSES GREEN > b 12 Dec 1791 NJ > Mar. 20 Oct 1814 > d 4 Oct 1866 > buried Vernon (LW) NJ > (possible father James?) > > wife Mary Sprague > b 21 Dec 1795 > d 7 Mar 1875 > father Cpt. John Sprague > mother Margaret Lounsberry > > the family group sheet has listed as the following sources: > Perlee Collection > Sussex Independent > 1850 Vernon census > > children: > 1. Susan Green 1833-13 Jan 1860 > buried Vernon (LW) NJ > > 2. John Sprague Green (see more info below) > b 27 Jul 1816 Vernon (survived by 7) > Mar. 1 Apr 1843 New Milford Maria Dixon > d 26 Nov 1906 Hamburg > bur 30 Nov 1906 Vernon > > 3. Elizabeth b 10 Jan 1825, died after 1906, married William Barnett > > 4. William S. b 4 Aug 1817 > > 5. Phebe b 10 Sep 1819 > > 6. Robert C. Green b 28 Jan 1822 died 1898 buried Warwick > married 1) Jane Leeper, 2) Eliza A. > > 7. Sarah b 28 Apr 1827 > > 8. Margaret b 17 Apr 1830 died 13 June 1832 > > 9. Margaret b 10 Nov 1832 died Feb 1902 > > 10. Julia b 6 June 1835 > > > JOHN SPRAGUE GREEN > John Sprague Green > b 27 Jul 1816 Vernon (survived by 7) > Mar. 1 Apr 1843 New Milford > d 26 Nov 1906 Hamburg > bur 30 Nov 1906 Vernon > > wife: Maria Dixon > b 22 Nov 1821 Vernon, NJ > d 30 Nov 1903 Vernon > bur 3 Dec 1903 Glenwood > Place of residence Vernon > father Simon Dixon > mother Margaret > > children of John & Maria > 1. Moses Green b 25 Mar 1844 Waywanda > Mar 1 Jan 1866 (does not list a wifes name) > d 14 Jan 1913 of Sussex > > 2. Simeon D. died after 1913 of Quarryville > > 3. James S. Green > b 28 Jun 1845 died 27 Nov 1928 buried Glenwood, NJ > Mar ca. 1872 Margaret > > 4. Price born 1849 died after 1913 of Warwick > > 5. Margaret Green > married by 1903 to Bevier Petersen > died after 1913 of Glenwood > > 6. Sarah M. Green > b 26 Jan 1853 > d 26 Jan 1853 buried Vernon, NJ > mar. Evi. S. Drew 3 Aug 1858-19 June 1921 > > 7. Mary Eliz. > b 1848 died after 1903 > mar. John Newkirk by 1903 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJSUSSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Here is more info I found in my files on the GREEN family. That's all I have on this family and I have no real connection to them. Hope it will be of help to someone. Sue MOSES GREEN b 12 Dec 1791 NJ Mar. 20 Oct 1814 d 4 Oct 1866 buried Vernon (LW) NJ (possible father James?) wife Mary Sprague b 21 Dec 1795 d 7 Mar 1875 father Cpt. John Sprague mother Margaret Lounsberry the family group sheet has listed as the following sources: Perlee Collection Sussex Independent 1850 Vernon census children: 1. Susan Green 1833-13 Jan 1860 buried Vernon (LW) NJ 2. John Sprague Green (see more info below) b 27 Jul 1816 Vernon (survived by 7) Mar. 1 Apr 1843 New Milford Maria Dixon d 26 Nov 1906 Hamburg bur 30 Nov 1906 Vernon 3. Elizabeth b 10 Jan 1825, died after 1906, married William Barnett 4. William S. b 4 Aug 1817 5. Phebe b 10 Sep 1819 6. Robert C. Green b 28 Jan 1822 died 1898 buried Warwick married 1) Jane Leeper, 2) Eliza A. 7. Sarah b 28 Apr 1827 8. Margaret b 17 Apr 1830 died 13 June 1832 9. Margaret b 10 Nov 1832 died Feb 1902 10. Julia b 6 June 1835 JOHN SPRAGUE GREEN John Sprague Green b 27 Jul 1816 Vernon (survived by 7) Mar. 1 Apr 1843 New Milford d 26 Nov 1906 Hamburg bur 30 Nov 1906 Vernon wife: Maria Dixon b 22 Nov 1821 Vernon, NJ d 30 Nov 1903 Vernon bur 3 Dec 1903 Glenwood Place of residence Vernon father Simon Dixon mother Margaret children of John & Maria 1. Moses Green b 25 Mar 1844 Waywanda Mar 1 Jan 1866 (does not list a wifes name) d 14 Jan 1913 of Sussex 2. Simeon D. died after 1913 of Quarryville 3. James S. Green b 28 Jun 1845 died 27 Nov 1928 buried Glenwood, NJ Mar ca. 1872 Margaret 4. Price born 1849 died after 1913 of Warwick 5. Margaret Green married by 1903 to Bevier Petersen died after 1913 of Glenwood 6. Sarah M. Green b 26 Jan 1853 d 26 Jan 1853 buried Vernon, NJ mar. Evi. S. Drew 3 Aug 1858-19 June 1921 7. Mary Eliz. b 1848 died after 1903 mar. John Newkirk by 1903

Hello, Has anyone knowledge of the Dutch names that produce Clarinda, or Maryann? Has anyone seen Blandina (a martyred saint in 177 A.D. in Lyon, France) as interchangeable with Clarinda? Thinking it might be a French Hugenot name. She was the patron saint of "those who have false things said about them, girls, and those who are tortured." Given Hugenot and Dutch history, it is interesting the name doesn't come up more often in the NY and NJ. Blandina der Martyrerin (Blandina the Martyr) - perhaps was pronounced Mar (long a) - ie - en (?), and translated into Maryann? Has anyone seen the Dutch name, daughter of Aaron, "Aarientje," pronounced (long a) Aar-ie-n'e, or Maryann? I have searched some Dutch name sites online and just learned it was important for Dutch females to identify their father's name in their middle name, hence the female version of a male name, Aarien, or Aaron might be Aarientje. Thank you. S. Pearce --------------------------------- Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains.

Looking for any information on Jessie LINDEN age 14 Florence LINDEN age 12 Who were living with Jessie Vance (Roof) SHAFER and William Edward SHAFER in Nutley town in 1930 At 58 Melrose St. Jessie & Florence are listed as Daughters on the census but I have not found a birth record for them. I do have pictures from my Grandmother who was Jessie V ROOF's sister that have Florence LInden written on the back as well as Sadie Linden Keith W Brown Indianapolis IN http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/r/o/Keith-W-Brown ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Nancy, Karen, Pat~ The family that Karen describes below is the family of my Dad's ex-wife, Lil (Hamler) (Schiefferstein) Sickels. In the 1920 Census, she is "Lillian B., dau." By the 1930 Census she is Lillian Hamler, living with Kenneth Hamler and his mother Augusta Hamler. Kathleen In a message dated 3/28/2007 12:49:29 PM US Mountain Standard Time, kmwgen@earthlink.net writes: >>Nancy, Kathleen, Pat: I don't have Stewart etc, at first I thought Edna may be the one below but the dates do not match. I still have some Sickels, Sickles info that I could not place before. This is one I could place. I have a note on the 1910 census of Roxbury. Charles Sickles 29, M1, 3 yrs laborer ice house Jennie, wife 19, M1, 3 yrs 2/2 children Edna, dau 3, Floyd son 1 -6/12 Mary E. Mother 58, wd 4/3 children (from Pats Notes Mary E. Brown is the mother of Charles Sickles) Next door is Mary C. Gilson 42, wd 3/1 children (I have her as Mary Catherine w/o Warren Gilson, I can account for one son George R. Gilson b May 17, 1876 d. 22 Feb 1894 Stanhope Union Cem. Plot M - probably more than one Gilson in plot M) 1920 census Dover, Sickels/Sickles Jennie 29, wd (in 1930 census Morris cty, I do not have print out) Edna dau, 12 Charles F. son, 11 ( in 1930 census Charles Floyd) Lillian B. dau, 8 Luella, dau, 7 Mary E., Mother in Law 68, wd (also in 1930 Morris Cty) I have a note all born NJ, I need to check this - Mary E., Germany?<< ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Great info! Thanks! Now who is John W. Sickles? P Best Researching the following surnames: Aaroe, Apgar, Best, Bonham, Brooks, Damen, Donohue/Donahue, Deremer/Deriemer, Dunham, Eakeley/Ackley, Eike/ Eyke/ Ike, Fuller, Haffenden, Haggerty, Hendershot, Hooey, Kitzeler, Lippington, Lothrop, McNally/Nally, Mitchell, Oberhuber, Parlan, Pierce, Pruden, Roche/Roach, Sickles/Sickels, Smith, South, Suart, Thompson, Thielen/Thelen, Tiger/Tyger, Woolever, Woertman/Workman -----Original Message----- From: njsussex-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:njsussex-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of pascalfl Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:58 PM To: njsussex@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NJSUSSEX] Sickels, Sickles Okay, I think I figured it out - at least part of it. Stewart is actually David S. Sickles s/o John W. Sickles and Elizab (UNK). In 1920 Edna is listed as Edna L. Sickles, single daughter, age 22, In 1905 they are in Andover. In 1910 in Byram. 1915 dates of birth match 1905 dates. 1900 indexed as David L. Sickels but according to this, Sarah has given birth to 1 child but that child is not longer living. Wonder if they perhaps Edna is adopted? Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "karen wreden" <kmwgen@earthlink.net> To: <njsussex@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [NJSUSSEX] Sickels, Sickles > > Nancy, Kathleen, Pat: > > I don't have Stewart etc, at first I thought Edna may be the one > below but the dates do not match. > > I still have some Sickels, Sickles info that I could not place > before. > This is one I could place. > > I have a note on the 1910 census of Roxbury. > Charles Sickles 29, M1, 3 yrs laborer ice house > Jennie, wife 19, M1, 3 yrs 2/2 children > Edna, dau 3, > Floyd son 1 -6/12 > Mary E. Mother 58, wd 4/3 children (from Pats Notes Mary E. Brown is > the mother of Charles Sickles) > > Next door is > Mary C. Gilson 42, wd 3/1 children (I have her as Mary Catherine w/o > Warren Gilson, I can account for one son George R. Gilson b May 17, 1876 > d. 22 Feb 1894 Stanhope Union Cem. Plot M - probably more than one Gilson > in plot M) > > 1920 census Dover, Sickels/Sickles > Jennie 29, wd (in 1930 census Morris cty, I do not have print out) > Edna dau, 12 > Charles F. son, 11 ( in 1930 census Charles Floyd) > Lillian B. dau, 8 > Luella, dau, 7 > Mary E., Mother in Law 68, wd (also in 1930 Morris Cty) > I have a note all born NJ, I need to check this - Mary E., Germany? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: pascalfl > To: njsussex@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:56 PM > Subject: Re: [NJSUSSEX] Sickels, Sickles > > > > 1915 State Census, Byram Twp., Sussex Co., NJ > 21/21 > SICKLES, Stewart W M June 1860 54 M NJ NJ NJ Farmer > SICKLES, Sarah W F Jan 1861 53 M NJ NJ NJ Housewife > MILLS, Edna Sickles W F Mar 1896 18 S NJ NJ NJ Student > BUTLER, William C. W M May 1854 61 W NJ NJ NJ Laborer > > Who is Edna Sickles MILLS? Here it shows her single. For that matter, > who > is Stewart? I have him in my database but don't show parents. > > Nancy > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJSUSSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJSUSSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJSUSSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I found in 1900 Census for Warren Cty, Hope Twp a John Mills Dec 1859, 40, wd, NJ,NJ,NJ lists daughter Edna born Mar 1896, 4 NJ,NJ,NJ Edna is not with him in 1910.? If Sarah D. Sickles maiden name is Mills, Edna would be her neice. Karen, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: pascalfl To: karen wreden Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [NJSUSSEX] Sickels, Sickles Thanks Karen, this adds more clues. In 1915 she is identified as Edna Sickles Mills born May 1896. I suspected she was the actual dau of this couple. I backtracked and found this family in 1905 - Andover. Here Edna is listed as Edna L. Mills. (this census doesn't identify relationship to head of household). Here her birthdate is Mar 1896. Likewise in 1915. I checked several Edna's in the 1900 census that age but couldn't find one that match. There was one Edna Mills in Frelinghuysen but the dob was wrong. I know that John is the son of Cornelius of Warren Co., NJ. I noticed several Stewart Sickles (all wrong age) living in the Mt. Olive area - all of these families must connect! Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "karen wreden" <kmwgen@earthlink.net> To: <njsussex@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [NJSUSSEX] Sickels, Sickles >I found David Stewart: > 1860 Byram 1870 Bryram, Sickles > John Sickles 29, NJ John 40, NJ > Elizabeth 28, NJ Elizabeth 38, NJ > Lewis F. 2, NJ Lewis F. 12, NJ > David S. 2/12, NJ David 10, NJ > > 1880 Byram Sickles 1900 none > John 50, NJ, NJ, NJ, > Elizabeth, wife 49, NJ,NJ,NJ > David S. son 19, NJ, NJ, NJ > > 1910 Byram Sickles > David S. 49, M1, 21 yrs NJ, NJ,NJ > Sarah D., wife 48, M1, 21 yrs 1/0 children NJ,NJ,NJ > MILLS, Edna L. NIECE 14, S, NJ,NJ,NJ > > 1920 Byram Sickles > David S. 59, NJ,NJ,NJ > Sarah D. wife, 58, NJ,NJ,NJ > Edna L. DAUGHTER 22, S, NJ,NJ,NJ > Karen, NJ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: karen wreden > To: njsussex@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 3:48 PM > Subject: Re: [NJSUSSEX] Sickels, Sickles > > > > Nancy, Kathleen, Pat: > > I don't have Stewart etc, at first I thought Edna may be the one > below but the dates do not match. > > I still have some Sickels, Sickles info that I could not place > before. > This is one I could place. > > I have a note on the 1910 census of Roxbury. > Charles Sickles 29, M1, 3 yrs laborer ice house > Jennie, wife 19, M1, 3 yrs 2/2 children > Edna, dau 3, > Floyd son 1 -6/12 > Mary E. Mother 58, wd 4/3 children (from Pats Notes Mary E. Brown is > the mother of Charles Sickles) > > Next door is > Mary C. Gilson 42, wd 3/1 children (I have her as Mary Catherine w/o > Warren Gilson, I can account for one son George R. Gilson b May 17, 1876 > d. 22 Feb 1894 Stanhope Union Cem. Plot M - probably more than one Gilson > in plot M) > > 1920 census Dover, Sickels/Sickles > Jennie 29, wd (in 1930 census Morris cty, I do not have print out) > Edna dau, 12 > Charles F. son, 11 ( in 1930 census Charles Floyd) > Lillian B. dau, 8 > Luella, dau, 7 > Mary E., Mother in Law 68, wd (also in 1930 Morris Cty) > I have a note all born NJ, I need to check this - Mary E., Germany? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: pascalfl > To: njsussex@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:56 PM > Subject: Re: [NJSUSSEX] Sickels, Sickles > > > > 1915 State Census, Byram Twp., Sussex Co., NJ > 21/21 > SICKLES, Stewart W M June 1860 54 M NJ NJ NJ Farmer > SICKLES, Sarah W F Jan 1861 53 M NJ NJ NJ Housewife > MILLS, Edna Sickles W F Mar 1896 18 S NJ NJ NJ Student > BUTLER, William C. W M May 1854 61 W NJ NJ NJ Laborer > > Who is Edna Sickles MILLS? Here it shows her single. For that matter, > who > is Stewart? I have him in my database but don't show parents. > > Nancy > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJSUSSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJSUSSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJSUSSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >