If one runs the term through Dutch to English in http://babelfish.altavista.com/tr you receive a translation of : "colonie of the lord horst" Google Horst and you discover that Horst is a town in the Netherlands. Based upon that, one might assume the Lord of Horst was granted a royal charter for NJ. Just a guess Al Yuma, Arizona > What a fascinating map! Can anyone explain what Colonie Van de Heer Neder > Horst is or means? Or is the word "Horst" part of it - it's in the same > size type. Translations would be interesting. > > Regina Haring > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Buckingham" <a.d.buckingham@verizon.net> > To: <njsussex@rootsweb.com>; <njsalem@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 5:15 PM > Subject: [NJSUSSEX] 1656 Map > > >> Hello All, >> >> I just came across a 1656 map of NJ that may be of interest to some of >> you. >> I scanned it and put it online at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com >> >> Alan >> RESEARCHING: Buckingham, Gilpin, Eastburn, Jeanes, Nowland, Wade, >> Creswell, >> Vansant and related families >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.22/739 - Release Date: >> 3/29/2007 >> 1:36 PM >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NJSUSSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.22/739 - Release Date: >> 3/29/2007 > >> 1:36 PM >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:04:14 EDT > From: MarilynRuth51@aol.com > Subject: [NJSUSSEX] Patrick McCASLIN/McCAUSLIN, (& > LAYPORT/LaPORTE/LePERTH) > To: NJSUSSEX@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <c50.fb544ac.333f1b9e@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Looking for information about Patrick McCaslin/McCauslin, who must have > moved to MD before 1768, at which time his daughter, Nancy, married George > LePorte, a French Huguenot. I must admit I am only assuming the marriage > took place > in MD, as that is where George took the oath of Loyalty. It is possible > that they married in Sussex Co., and moved to Maryland later, before > taking > the > oath of Loyalty. > > If anyone has any information on either the McCaslins or the LaPortes, I > would greatly appreciate it. > > thank you > > Marilyn Current > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:50:57 EDT > From: MonaMusic@aol.com > Subject: [NJSUSSEX] GIVEANS > To: NJSUSSEX-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <cf0.c747ff0.333f2691@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > William H GIVEANS, son of John GIVEANS (4th) and Mary Edsall STORMS, was > born July 1872 in Deckertown, Sussex Co., NJ. He married Emma L. (unk.) > who was > born 1882 in Kansas. Their daughter, Leonora was born 1906 in Ohio. > > Can anyone tell me which county or town in Ohio, Leonore GIVEANS was > born? > > What was Emma L GIVEANS maiden name? Where in Kansas was she born? > > Anyone know the date of the marriage of William H to Emma L? > > When and where did William H and Emma L die? Where are they buried? > > Any help will be most appreciated. > > Mona, Richmond, IN > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:35:06 -0400 > From: Carol VanBuren <ty@warwick.net> > Subject: Re: [NJSUSSEX] GIVEANS > To: njsussex@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <000801c77345$93987b90$640fa8c0@VANBURENFAMILY> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > In 1930 Census they are living in Queens NY and in 1910 Census they are > living in the Bronx NY. In 1930 he was a salesman of woodware. He was 36 > and she was 21 when they were married. In 1910 he was a salesman of > woodware. They had been married 7 years. > > Carol Van Buren > > -----Original Message----- > From: njsussex-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:njsussex-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of MonaMusic@aol.com > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 10:51 PM > To: NJSUSSEX-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NJSUSSEX] GIVEANS > > William H GIVEANS, son of John GIVEANS (4th) and Mary Edsall STORMS, was > born July 1872 in Deckertown, Sussex Co., NJ. He married Emma L. (unk.) > who was > born 1882 in Kansas. Their daughter, Leonora was born 1906 in Ohio. > > Can anyone tell me which county or town in Ohio, Leonore GIVEANS was > born? > > What was Emma L GIVEANS maiden name? Where in Kansas was she born? > > Anyone know the date of the marriage of William H to Emma L? > > When and where did William H and Emma L die? 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Judy, John O'Brien's list of Warren cemeteries at http://www.wcchc.org/cemetery.htm does, in fact show the Wiggins Cemetery Vienna, Independence Township, location unknown. He says that Snell's History of Sussex and Warren Counties shows only one grave, that of G. Wiggins, died 1742. Jan Reuther http://www. RAUB-and-more.com > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [NJSUSSEX] List of all Sussex (and Warren) Co. Cemeteries > From: Frostfreedet@aol.com > Date: Sat, March 31, 2007 8:23 am > To: njsussex@rootsweb.com > > By the way, none of the current lists I've seen mention the Wiggins > cemetery in Independence Twp., Warren Co., somewhere around the > Pequest. Years ago I found a reference to the DAR's having made a > transcript of the markers from it, and that it was in the DAR Library > in Washington, DC. That may have been compiled in the DAR's > Genealogical Records Committee's series on 'Genealogical records'. I > wrote them many years ago for a copy of this but never got a response > and have not followed up on it. > > But those compiling such lists might want to check out this resource. > Many small family cemeteries no longer visibly exist: some have > doubtless been plowed over, the markers removed, so more recent > investigators may not even find a trace. > > The reason for my interest in that cemetery was a vague association > between the Wiggins famiy there (of whom one Samuel was a Loyalist > whose properties were confiscated and who went to Canada) (his brother > William moved to Hector Town, then Tompkins Co. and now Schuyler Co., > NY ca. 1814) (they had a sister who married a Van Buskirk) -- and my > possible ancestor Joshua Smith (his wife Keziah nee Pelton), who had > moved to present Independence Twp. when it (or part of it) was still > part of Oxford, from just north of Trenton around 1774-5. > > Good hunting, > Judy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJSUSSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
"Colonie Van de Heer Nederhorst" could be translated as Lord Nederhorst's Colony. See, for example, "The History of Bogota [New Jersey]" at <http://www.bogota.nj.us/history/default.asp>. I found a mention of Heer Nederhorst in a book that is part of the Project Gutenberg -- a transcription of "The Representation of New Netherland, 1650," by Adriaen van der Donck, included in _Narratives of New Netherland, 1609-1664 (Original Narratives of Early American History)_ (NY: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1909), edited by J. Franklin Jameson. <http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/docs/books/gutenberg/etext02/nwnth10.txt> You can find a few other hits by googling "Heer Nerderhorst" or "Lord Nederhorst". Susan Molye At 08:38 PM 3/30/2007, you wrote: >What a fascinating map! Can anyone explain what Colonie Van de Heer Neder >Horst is or means? Or is the word "Horst" part of it - it's in the same >size type. Translations would be interesting. > >Regina Haring
1870 Census , Franklin, Warren Co., NJ In the hh of Samuel Creveling (age 74), Sarah Sickles, 18 F W, born in NJ Can find nothing in 1860 Closest thing I can find in 1850 is Jacob Sickles age 29 in Hardyston. Wife, Nancy and two ch: Hannah (age 6) and James (age 1). Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "karen wreden" <kmwgen@earthlink.net> To: <njsussex@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 9:20 AM Subject: [NJSUSSEX] Sickels, Sickles > In my search for George Sickles Sr & Jr, I came across much info. Hope > this helps somesone. Karen, NJ > Notes from death Cert for Sarah Emiline Cooper > Died in Andover Borough Feb 27, 1916 age 63.10.23 > Born April 4, 1852, NJ > Father: JACOB SICKLES > Mother: unknown > Informant Zachariah Cooper of Andover, lNJ > Burial Johnsonburg (what cemetery?) > > In the 1880 Warren Cty Oxford census > Zackariah Cooper 29 > Sarah 28 > Jesse 9 > John 7 > Dawson 5 > > 1910- Allamuchy Census > Zackariah Cooper 58, M37 yrs, Pa, Pa, Pa > Sarah E. 57, NJ, NJ, NJ 3/3 children > 1920 Census Zackariah Cooper 67, wd in Boro of Andover > > Who is the mother? > Who is Jacob Sickles? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJSUSSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
In my search for George Sickles Sr & Jr, I came across much info. Hope this helps somesone. Karen, NJ Notes from death Cert for Sarah Emiline Cooper Died in Andover Borough Feb 27, 1916 age 63.10.23 Born April 4, 1852, NJ Father: JACOB SICKLES Mother: unknown Informant Zachariah Cooper of Andover, lNJ Burial Johnsonburg (what cemetery?) In the 1880 Warren Cty Oxford census Zackariah Cooper 29 Sarah 28 Jesse 9 John 7 Dawson 5 1910- Allamuchy Census Zackariah Cooper 58, M37 yrs, Pa, Pa, Pa Sarah E. 57, NJ, NJ, NJ 3/3 children 1920 Census Zackariah Cooper 67, wd in Boro of Andover Who is the mother? Who is Jacob Sickles?
By the way, none of the current lists I've seen mention the Wiggins cemetery in Independence Twp., Warren Co., somewhere around the Pequest. Years ago I found a reference to the DAR's having made a transcript of the markers from it, and that it was in the DAR Library in Washington, DC. That may have been compiled in the DAR's Genealogical Records Committee's series on 'Genealogical records'. I wrote them many years ago for a copy of this but never got a response and have not followed up on it. But those compiling such lists might want to check out this resource. Many small family cemeteries no longer visibly exist: some have doubtless been plowed over, the markers removed, so more recent investigators may not even find a trace. The reason for my interest in that cemetery was a vague association between the Wiggins famiy there (of whom one Samuel was a Loyalist whose properties were confiscated and who went to Canada) (his brother William moved to Hector Town, then Tompkins Co. and now Schuyler Co., NY ca. 1814) (they had a sister who married a Van Buskirk) -- and my possible ancestor Joshua Smith (his wife Keziah nee Pelton), who had moved to present Independence Twp. when it (or part of it) was still part of Oxford, from just north of Trenton around 1774-5. Good hunting, Judy
Carol, Thank you so very much for the information. Mona ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
In 1930 Census they are living in Queens NY and in 1910 Census they are living in the Bronx NY. In 1930 he was a salesman of woodware. He was 36 and she was 21 when they were married. In 1910 he was a salesman of woodware. They had been married 7 years. Carol Van Buren -----Original Message----- From: njsussex-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:njsussex-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MonaMusic@aol.com Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 10:51 PM To: NJSUSSEX-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NJSUSSEX] GIVEANS William H GIVEANS, son of John GIVEANS (4th) and Mary Edsall STORMS, was born July 1872 in Deckertown, Sussex Co., NJ. He married Emma L. (unk.) who was born 1882 in Kansas. Their daughter, Leonora was born 1906 in Ohio. Can anyone tell me which county or town in Ohio, Leonore GIVEANS was born? What was Emma L GIVEANS maiden name? Where in Kansas was she born? Anyone know the date of the marriage of William H to Emma L? When and where did William H and Emma L die? Where are they buried? Any help will be most appreciated. Mona, Richmond, IN ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJSUSSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
William H GIVEANS, son of John GIVEANS (4th) and Mary Edsall STORMS, was born July 1872 in Deckertown, Sussex Co., NJ. He married Emma L. (unk.) who was born 1882 in Kansas. Their daughter, Leonora was born 1906 in Ohio. Can anyone tell me which county or town in Ohio, Leonore GIVEANS was born? What was Emma L GIVEANS maiden name? Where in Kansas was she born? Anyone know the date of the marriage of William H to Emma L? When and where did William H and Emma L die? Where are they buried? Any help will be most appreciated. Mona, Richmond, IN ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Looking for information about Patrick McCaslin/McCauslin, who must have moved to MD before 1768, at which time his daughter, Nancy, married George LePorte, a French Huguenot. I must admit I am only assuming the marriage took place in MD, as that is where George took the oath of Loyalty. It is possible that they married in Sussex Co., and moved to Maryland later, before taking the oath of Loyalty. If anyone has any information on either the McCaslins or the LaPortes, I would greatly appreciate it. thank you Marilyn Current ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
What a fascinating map! Can anyone explain what Colonie Van de Heer Neder Horst is or means? Or is the word "Horst" part of it - it's in the same size type. Translations would be interesting. Regina Haring ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Buckingham" <a.d.buckingham@verizon.net> To: <njsussex@rootsweb.com>; <njsalem@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 5:15 PM Subject: [NJSUSSEX] 1656 Map > Hello All, > > I just came across a 1656 map of NJ that may be of interest to some of > you. > I scanned it and put it online at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com > > Alan > RESEARCHING: Buckingham, Gilpin, Eastburn, Jeanes, Nowland, Wade, > Creswell, > Vansant and related families > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.22/739 - Release Date: 3/29/2007 > 1:36 PM > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJSUSSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.22/739 - Release Date: 3/29/2007 > 1:36 PM > >
Please tell me about your Gilson family ? Do you have more information on George and his parents? ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Debbie, I don't think this is your Margaret. She married Martin Swartswelder and either died young or moved with her husband to Ohio. Al Fiacre ----- Original Message ----- From: Debbie Bleger<mailto:dbleger@comcast.net> To: NJSUSSEX-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:NJSUSSEX-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:05 PM Subject: [NJSUSSEX] Jonas Smith of Walpack Township Is anyone tracking a Jonas Smith of Walpack Township? According to some information Nancy Pascal sent me, Jonas Smith was born about 1770 to John and Elisabeth Smith. In looking at records of the Dutch Reform Church of Walpack, Jonas was married to Anna Maria (or Anna Mary) and the father of at least three children who were baptized in the church: Margaret, born Jan. 29, 1797 John Philip, born Oct. 28, 1798 Barbara, born Aug. 24, 1804 I am particularly interested in Margaret. If anyone has more information on this family, I would like to hear from you. Debbie Bleger Researching Nichols and Smith in Morris and Sussex counties ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJSUSSEX-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NJSUSSEX-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello All, I just came across a 1656 map of NJ that may be of interest to some of you. I scanned it and put it online at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com Alan RESEARCHING: Buckingham, Gilpin, Eastburn, Jeanes, Nowland, Wade, Creswell, Vansant and related families -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.22/739 - Release Date: 3/29/2007 1:36 PM
Has anyone mentioned the War of 1812? Migration to Canada before and after this War also. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Love" <allaboutgenealogy@yahoo.com> To: <njsussex@rootsweb.com>; "Niagara Co Mailing List" <nyniagar@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [NJSUSSEX] Question about migration > Thank you for your insight, Steve. I had never considered that before about being disillusioned. If this was indeed the case, my Patriot was further burned by the federal government by being denied a pension for his service in the Revolutionary War (I got the impression that he moved back to the U.S. (census records are unavailable to confirm this due to fires) about the time he applied for the pension, which may explain why he returned (maybe you had to live in the U.S. to claim a pension?). Thanks, again, to you and everyone else who took the time to assist me with this quandary. > > > > SMabie@aol.com wrote: > The easy part of your question is why did they go to Canada. Immediately > after the Revolutionary War, many veterans became somewhat disillusioned with > the federal and state governments since promises made to them of land were not > fulfilled. In some cases, speculators stepped in and virtually stole the > land from the vets. > > One such man was Tobias Maybee of Dutchess County who had served several > years during the war, and then in the mid-1790s he left with his young family > and moved to Canada where he joined his cousin John Mabee, a Sussex County > Loyalist who had moved to Canada in the 1780s. > > The second part of your question has a similar answer. At various points in > time, some Loyalists (and others who had belatedly gone to Canada in search > of land grants) who had removed to Canada at Wars end also became > disillusioned (this time with the British) when promises of land went unfulfilled. > > Ultimately, Buffalo was a convenient point on the frontier, with access to > the great lakes for migration to points west. > > Steve > > In a message dated 3/29/2007 1:57:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > allaboutgenealogy@yahoo.com writes: > > Here is a question that has been bugging me a while: > Why would someone who is known to have fought in the Revolutionary War move > from the states to Canada after the War (where at least a few of his children > were born; I think in Ontario), then back to the United States (in this > case, Niagara Co., NY)? I have heard of those who were either opposed to the War > or those who remained loyal to the King moving to Canada after the War, but > not a patriot...just seemed a bit odd. Any thoughts? > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJSUSSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love > (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJSUSSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thank you for your insight, Steve. I had never considered that before about being disillusioned. If this was indeed the case, my Patriot was further burned by the federal government by being denied a pension for his service in the Revolutionary War (I got the impression that he moved back to the U.S. (census records are unavailable to confirm this due to fires) about the time he applied for the pension, which may explain why he returned (maybe you had to live in the U.S. to claim a pension?). Thanks, again, to you and everyone else who took the time to assist me with this quandary. SMabie@aol.com wrote: The easy part of your question is why did they go to Canada. Immediately after the Revolutionary War, many veterans became somewhat disillusioned with the federal and state governments since promises made to them of land were not fulfilled. In some cases, speculators stepped in and virtually stole the land from the vets. One such man was Tobias Maybee of Dutchess County who had served several years during the war, and then in the mid-1790s he left with his young family and moved to Canada where he joined his cousin John Mabee, a Sussex County Loyalist who had moved to Canada in the 1780s. The second part of your question has a similar answer. At various points in time, some Loyalists (and others who had belatedly gone to Canada in search of land grants) who had removed to Canada at Wars end also became disillusioned (this time with the British) when promises of land went unfulfilled. Ultimately, Buffalo was a convenient point on the frontier, with access to the great lakes for migration to points west. Steve In a message dated 3/29/2007 1:57:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, allaboutgenealogy@yahoo.com writes: Here is a question that has been bugging me a while: Why would someone who is known to have fought in the Revolutionary War move from the states to Canada after the War (where at least a few of his children were born; I think in Ontario), then back to the United States (in this case, Niagara Co., NY)? I have heard of those who were either opposed to the War or those who remained loyal to the King moving to Canada after the War, but not a patriot...just seemed a bit odd. Any thoughts? ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJSUSSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list.
Both valid answers; I appreciate your insight! Breakness@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 3/29/2007 11:58:03 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, allaboutgenealogy@yahoo.com writes: Here is a question that has been bugging me a while: Why would someone who is known to have fought in the Revolutionary War move from the states to Canada after the War (where at least a few of his children were born; I think in Ontario), then back to the United States (in this case, Niagara Co., NY)? I have heard of those who were either opposed to the War or those who remained loyal to the King moving to Canada after the War, but not a patriot...just seemed a bit odd. Any thoughts? My two guesses on this is they may have moved to Canada if there was some economic advantage. Was there a land giveaway? Or my second thought was they moved to be near family but fond the life not to their liking. Just two shots in the dark. Laurence Still searching for my lost LANTZ - LANCE family ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJSUSSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business.
Thanks so much for your response; I wish I knew a little more about the family so that I could figure this out, but there are clearly many possibilities. I can see why the family moved to Niagara County (Holland Land Purchase and potentially to be with other family members), but the Canadian jaunt just seemed a bit strange to me from a Patriot; maybe if I can figure out where in Canada they were it would help. Thanks for the insight! "S. Pearce" <sharpearce@yahoo.com> wrote: The same question has crossed my radar in the past couple of days. In researching the Terwilliger family, which moved from New Palz, Ulster Co., NY to Sussex Co. and surrounding areas in NJ by the time of the Revolution, it appears they were mainly Loyalists; some males moved to Canada and were not involved in the fight, yet others were officers in the Revolution from NJ, but departed afterward for Canada with their families. Maybe they decided to reform the family in Canada; although I think some of the Terwilligers remained in NJ. Some emgires did return to the bosom of their family in the U.S. years later, possibly from old-age care issues. Also Niagara, NY/CN saw fighting in the War of 1812, in 1813 (War: 1812-14). U.S. gave back the spoils of war in the way of Canadian land, essentially abandoning it, almost at once. Perhaps after a few decades with the U.S. prospering, the issue of old "loyalism" didn't mean as much, since the Colonials won! S. Pearce Gene Love wrote: Here is a question that has been bugging me a while: Why would someone who is known to have fought in the Revolutionary War move from the states to Canada after the War (where at least a few of his children were born; I think in Ontario), then back to the United States (in this case, Niagara Co., NY)? I have heard of those who were either opposed to the War or those who remained loyal to the King moving to Canada after the War, but not a patriot...just seemed a bit odd. Any thoughts? --------------------------------- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJSUSSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJSUSSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center.
In a message dated 3/29/2007 12:58:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, sharpearce@yahoo.com writes: The same question has crossed my radar in the past couple of days. In researching the Terwilliger family, which moved from New Palz, Ulster Co., NY to Sussex Co. and surrounding areas in NJ by the time of the Revolution, it appears they were mainly Loyalists; some males moved to Canada and were not involved in the fight, yet others were officers in the Revolution from NJ, but departed afterward for Canada with their families. Maybe they decided to reform the family in Canada; although I think some of the Terwilligers remained in NJ. Some emgires did return to the bosom of their family in the U.S. years later, possibly from old-age care issues. Also Niagara, NY/CN saw fighting in the War of 1812, in 1813 (War: 1812-14). U.S. gave back the spoils of war in the way of Canadian land, essentially abandoning it, almost at once. Perhaps after a few decades with the U.S. prospering, the issue of old "loyalism" didn't mean as much, since the Colonials won! S. Pearce Gene Love <allaboutgenealogy@yahoo.com> wrote: Here is a question that has been bugging me a while: Why would someone who is known to have fought in the Revolutionary War move from the states to Canada after the War (where at least a few of his children were born; I think in Ontario), then back to the United States (in this case, Niagara Co., NY)? I have heard of those who were either opposed to the War or those who remained loyal to the King moving to Canada after the War, but not a patriot...just seemed a bit odd. Any thoughts? All this DECKER talk and then the TWILLIGER connection caught my attention. EMMA E. DECKER is my lost great grandmother. She married first ANTHONY LANCE then Edgar Alonzo Terwilliger, Emma was born in Dalton, PA in 1858, daughter of ASA H. DECKER and MARY SMITH, both of NY. . She married ANTHONY LANCE about 1873 probably in PA. The couple had four children I know of. Anthony and EMMA may have briefly moved to NY circa 1890 or 1900 but were back in the north Scranton area around 1898. She divorced ANTTHONY and married Edgar June 11, 1898, Edgar died in 1916 Still searching for my lost LANTZ - LANCE family ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Ben is a Smith cousin. I have forwarded your e-mails to him. Marijane ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.