Hi Folks, For a short time, the Paterson, NJ city directories for 1890 - 1893 are available for free on the Ancestry.com site at http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4440.htm >From reading the newspapers, the access from the rail head in Stockholm and points north plus migrating worker patterns - you'll find many Sussex county family members in Paterson during this time. Try it out and see... Happy Hunting, Cathy DiPietro listowner: NJSussex-L

Hello List - I'm new to the list and would like a lookup for an obit for my aunt, Maida (Wright) NEED who died Dec 1974. SS didn't have a day of death. She lived in Sparta most of her life, was married to Stanley O NEED until they divorced Apr 22, 1966. She was b in NJ, possibly in Sparta, and probably married in CT. Thank you so much, Venee (NEED) Stuart-Henson

Again, if you get a duplicate copy of this message please delete it. I have started the following surname mailing lists: VanRiper-L@rootsweb.com also includes VanRyper and VanRypen, etc Zabriskie-L@rootsweb.com also includes Zaborisko, etc Brinkerhoff-L@rootsweb.com also includes Blinkerhoff VanBlarcom-L@rootsweb.com Cuypers-L@rootsweb.com also includes Kuypers, Cuipers, Kuipers, etc VanGiesen-L@rootsweb.com also includes variant spellings I have adopted the following orphan lists: DeGroot-L@rootsweb.com includes DeGroat Doremus-L@rootsweb.com Kuiper-L@rootsweb.com (I am aware that this is somewhat of a duplication but it was there, so I took it) You can subscribe to the "mail mode" by typing: (for example) VanRiper-L-request@rootsweb.com put only one word in the message portion of the message: subscribe After you get the welcome message send all messages to: VanRiper-L@rootsweb.com NOTE:Do not subscribe to both mail and digest mode unless you want two copies of the email. to subscribe in the digest mode; send a message to: (for example) Doremus-D-request@rootsweb.com put one word in the message portion of the message: subscribe after you get the welcome message send all future messages to: Doremsu-L@rootsweb.com for the other named lists; substitue that list name for VanRiper or Doremus and follow the rest of the instructions. As always Rootsweb does not charge to belong to any lists; but they do welcome and encourage contributions. Rootsweb indicates that only 9% of the people that use Rootsweb actually contribute anything. If anyone would like to take over ownership of this list or any other surname list that I own; or any other surname list ; let me know. I will see if it is available for adoption. There are many mailing lists that are available for adoption at Rootsweb. They have a few kind people that take care of many many lists until other volunteers can adopt the lists and look after them. To see if a list is adoptable go to this URL: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/adoptable/ Adoptable means that it exists but is waiting for a listowner. It also means that there are most likely "few" people on the list as there is no one to "publicize" its existence on lists in areas where that surname lived. Diane Ward Sives

This questions was asked of me so I thought I would relay it to the county lists for those who do not know. If you get this message more than once, and many of you will; please forgive the intrusion and just delete the others. Rootsweb Surname Mailing Lists. 1. To see if a list is adoptable go to this URL: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/adoptable/ Adoptable means that it exists but is waiting for a listowner. It also means that there are most likely "few" people on the list as there is no one to "publicize" its existence on lists in areas where that surname lived. 2. Check to see if Surname List exists currently: This URL will show if the list is available "at all". http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/surnames/index.html 3. Adopt a surname list or start one (and be listowner) that is not currently available. If you desire to adopt a surname list or if you want to "request" that Rootsweb start a surname list that currently does not exist go to the URL below: REMEMBER: If you do request a Surname list that is not currently existing you must "agree" to be the listowner. http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/adoptable/ Hope this helps. -- Diane Ward Sives

JoAnna Dunn, You posted a message about Custard, Van Campen, and Swartwout Families in the 1700's. Do you have information on your William Custard b 1777? I have a William Custard (of Bartonsville, Monroe Co, PA) who m Margaret Hohenschildt b 9 May 1777 in Northampton Co PA. This line leads back to Swartwout's. Margaret m (2nd) Abraham Shook b 13 Jul 1773. They had a son David Shook who m Catherine Kintz. David and Catherine Shook moved from Northampton Co to Lackawanna Co sometime before 1840. Their youngest child, John Shook b 27 Dec 1841 in Newton, Lackawanna Co, PA m Maria Swartwood. John and Maria had three children, David, Catherine and Emma. David A. Shook b 30 Oct 1 Newton, PA m Mary E. Smith my 2nd c 2gr. Is this your William Custard? Paul Thompson P.S. We corresponded in Nov 1997 regarding the PRALL family. You wrote... Does anyone have any information on the following family of Sussex Co.NJ? The information as follows is from the Minisink Valley Church Records. William Custard and Sarah Swartwout Abraham, b. 1766 Jacob, b. 1767 William, b. 1777 Mary, b. 1773 William Custard (Koster) b. 1777 married Elizabeth Van Campen Benjamin, b. 1803 Susannna, b. 1805 Sarah, b. 1807 William, b. 1809 John Van Camp(en), b. 1813 My 2-gr grandfather was John Van CAmpen, b. 1813 or 1814 in NJ. I can't connect him yet with any of the Van Campens of NJ. Does any one know anything about the above mentioned John Van Camp Custard? My 2-gr grandfather, John Vancampen, b. 1813 or 14, NJ. married Permelia Prall (b. 1814 in Washington Co. PA) in Zanesville, OH in 1834. Their first child was William Van Campen, b. 1837, in OH. Then they had twin girls, Susanna and Sarah, b. 1840 in OH. I always kinda figured that John Vancampen's father's name was William, but I could never place him with a William Van Camp(en). If any one has any information on the life of John Vancampen Custard, please let me know. Maybe I can find John's parents by the process of elimination. Thanks to all, Joanna Smith Dunn <

I have taken over the following surname mailing lists: Blauvelt-L@rootsweb.com Odle-L@rootsweb.com York-L@rootsweb.com Pulis-L@rootsweb.com McLennan-L@rootsweb.com Bogert-L@rootsweb.com Bogardus-L@rootsweb.com Bogard-L@rootsweb.com You can subscribe to the mail mode by typing Blauvelt-L-request@rootsweb.com put only one word in the message portion of the message: subscribe After you get the welcome message send all messages to: Blauvelt-L@rootsweb.com to subscribe in the digest mode; send a message to: Blauvelt-D-request@rootsweb.com put one word in the message portion of the message: subscribe after you get the welcome message send all future messages to: Blauvelt-L@rootsweb.com for the other named lists; substitue that list name for Blauvelt and follow the rest of the instructions. As always Rootsweb does not charge to belong to any lists; but they do welcome and encourage contributions. Rootsweb indicates that only 9% of the people that use Rootsweb actually contribute anything. If anyone would like to take over ownership of this list or any other surname list that I own; or any other surname list ; let me know. I will see if it is available for adoption. There are many mailing lists that are available for adoption at Rootsweb. They have a few kind people that take care of many many lists until other volunteers can adopt the lists and look after them. If you want to check and see if "your" surnames have lists that are adoptable; go to the URL below and check it out. You can volunteer to take over some lists from that page also. The work for a list is quite minimal; perhaps requiring an hour or so a week (and that is for a very active list). Diane Ward Sives

Hello Irvina, I happy to see that you enjoyed the images. I can tell you that there are at least 2000 individual pieces of paper and I can truly say that I have not posted every name to RootsWeb. I started to place messages there every time I had a pretty good size list of new names and after 10 or so postings I was asked not to. As a matter of fact the very last posting was deleted by the moderator/list owner. I think the owner considers the postings "Spam" even though I am not selling any of the papers and I'm not sure why. I have sent messages via the NJSUSSEX-L@rootsweb.com and she has not had a problem with that. I do appreciate the offer to help but think it's one of those unfortunate things that doesn't allow us to. If you go to my home page I started a "Surname" list which I added some of the names. Thanks again for the offer to help, it was very thoughtful of you. ---Mark (ps. I hope the you survived the Kingdome) http://home.att.net/~mforder ...("The Box") Qqquilter@aol.com wrote: > How wonderful! for you to share these with everyone. I found an article in > Missing Links (I'm a little behind reading). Have you thought of > cross-referencing all the surnames to the Rootsweb surname list? I'm sure > that's a lot of work. I would be willing to help if you have the names in > some list. > > Thanks for sharing. > > Irvina (near enough to Seattle to plan a trip to see the Kingdome implode on > Sunday)

Hi All, Does anyone have any information on the following family of Sussex Co.NJ? The information as follows is from the Minisink Valley Church Records. William Custard and Sarah Swartwout Abraham, b. 1766 Jacob, b. 1767 William, b. 1777 Mary, b. 1773 William Custard (Koster) b. 1777 married Elizabeth Van Campen Benjamin, b. 1803 Susannna, b. 1805 Sarah, b. 1807 William, b. 1809 John Van Camp(en), b. 1813 My 2-gr grandfather was John Van CAmpen, b. 1813 or 1814 in NJ. I can't connect him yet with any of the Van Campens of NJ. Does any one know anything about the above mentioned John Van Camp Custard? My 2-gr grandfather, John Vancampen, b. 1813 or 14, NJ. married Permelia Prall (b. 1814 in Washington Co. PA) in Zanesville, OH in 1834. Their first child was William Van Campen, b. 1837, in OH. Then they had twin girls, Susanna and Sarah, b. 1840 in OH. I always kinda figured that John Vancampen's father's name was William, but I could never place him with a William Van Camp(en). If any one has any information on the life of John Vancampen Custard, please let me know. Maybe I can find John's parents by the process of elimination. Thanks to all, Joanna Smith Dunn

I have taken over the following surname mailing lists: Eckerson-L@rootsweb.com Ackerson-L@rootsweb.com Guerin-L@rootsweb.com VanTassel-L@rootsweb.com VanPelt-L@rootsweb.com VanNess-L@rootsweb.com VanNest-L@rootsweb.com Bewley-L@rootsweb.com You can subscribe to the mail mode by typing Bewley-L-request@rootsweb.com put only one word in the message portion of the message: subscribe After you get the welcome message send all messages to: Bewley-L@rootsweb.com to subscribe in the digest mode; send a message to: Bewley-D-request@rootsweb.com put one word in the message portion of the message: subscribe after you get the welcome message send all future messages to: Bewley-L@rootsweb.com for the other named list; substitue that list name for Bewley and follow the rest of the instructions. Diane Ward Sives

What was once known as Deckertown is today known as the town of Sussex. Ted Nichols In a message dated 3/25/2000 9:43:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, mforder@worldnet.att.net writes: << I've added a few more papers to my home page. As I was doing so I noticed this one and thought it had some New Jersey information that may be useful. Does anyone know where Deckertown is/was? http://home.att.net/~mforder04/mark420.JPG >>

Hello, I've added a few more papers to my home page. As I was doing so I noticed this one and thought it had some New Jersey information that may be useful. Does anyone know where Deckertown is/was? http://home.att.net/~mforder04/mark420.JPG Thanks, ---Mark http://home.att.net/~mforder ("The Box")

Beth Wilson, You wrote... >>Message text written by INTERNET:NJSUSSEX-L@rootsweb.com >>I haven't posted to the list in a while, and I thought I'd put my "brick walls" out there, just in case anyone recognizes them... >>-DUNN Family- I am researching the line of Wantage Dunns that came from Piscataway, Middlesex Co., NJ, in the 1770's or early >>1780's. The original Sussex County generation was Daniel Dunn (Sr.) and Sarah Fitz Randolph; their children were Charity Dunn >>Gould, Drake Dunn, Daniel Dunn, Jr., Ruth Dunn (may have married a Drake, per her brother's will), and at least one unnamed >>daughter. >>In doing my Dunn research I've relied on a number of Piscataway sources, tracing the line down, as well as Sussex County sources >>tracing the line up, and I have come to a crossroads: how does this line relate to the Vandruffs/Vanderhoufs? I believe a Sophia >>Dunn married an Abraham Vanderhouf in the church my Dunns belonged to, and I know that in a biography of Daniel Jr's son there >>is a mention of "his uncle Abram Vandruf," but I cannot find a Sophia on any of the Dunn lineages I've looked through. If you have any >>information on descendents of this line, I'd love to hear from you. Many thanks to Sue Headley for forwarding me that biography! >>VAN SICKLE and SNOOK- >>I don't have a copy of the Van Sickle genealogy book, but a number of helpful researchers have led me to my line- Susan M. Van >>Sickle, who married Lanson Dunn, was the daughter of Bowdewine Van Sickle (son of Andrew and Nancy Lowe) and Charlotte >>Snook. I have not been able to find out who Charlotte's parents were: there is another Sussex Co. Charlotte Snook, but the dates are >>wrong, and she moved out west. The couple also had a son, Peter, about whom I know nothing other than his birth date. >>Bowedewine died "in the prime of life" when his children were young- does anyone know where the Van Sickles are buried? Given >>his early death, it seem likely that Charlotte remarried, but I haven't found anything on her yet. As for Peter, the name is very >>common among the Van Sickles, and he has a number of contemporary cousins of the same name- quite a tangle to sort out! Your Bodawine Van Sickle b 4 Sep 1799 who m Charlotte Snook is the first cousin of John Van Sickle b 11 Aug 1788 in Sussex Co NJ. John was s/o Garret and Catherine Van Sickle and he married my 3rd great grand aunt Gennet Thompson b 22 May 1783 in Wantage Twp. John Van Sickle and his wife are b in the Old Beemerville Cemetery. You might look there. Regarding the Dunn family, could one of your Daniel Dunn's have a daughter Prudence M. Dunn who m RObert M. Longcor b 15 Aug 1838 in Wantage Twp? I'm looking for Longcor/Longcoy/Longcore/Langhaar information. Paul Thompson HHI SC

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Hi Audrey, I found two listings under Bowne in the Sussex Warren history by Snell pg. 13 In Sept., 1692, Andrew Hamilton , who had been appointed Governor, arrived in Jersey, " and was received in a manner that removed every impediment to the re-establishment of the proprietary government" He appointed John Barclay , receiver ands surveyor-general, and Thomas Gordon resident secretary. on the 14th of the month he selected as his council Capt. Isaac Kingsland, Capt. Andrew BOWNE, John Indians, Raritan River, of Roycefield, Samuel Dennis, John Bishop, and Lewis Morris. page 111 During the battle of the wilderness and in turning Lee's right wing in the advance on Richmond the regiment did excellent service, and maintained its reputation for daring hardihood and brilliant exploits. In an engagement on the 28th of May, 1864, the ammunition of the men gave out while they were hardly pressed by the enemy. A new supply was brought from the rear, and Capt. Beckman was shot through both hands as he stretched them forth in the act of distributing ammunition to the men. Lieut Bellis was almost at the same moment mortally wounded, as was also Lieut, Stewart. Capt. Robbins was wounded severely in the shoulder, Lieut Shaw badly in the head, Lieut Wynkoop fearfully in the foot. Liuet BOWNE was the only officer of the First Battalion on the field who was untouched, and he had several narrow escapes. I also found a bio on Cyrus A.Bowne in Orange County, ny ( Orange is on the border of New Jersey) It said he was born March 16, 1857, He had a farm in Montgomery NY ( Orange County). he was know as a fine grade maker of butter through out the State. He was the youngest member of a family of 9 brothers and sisters, his parents being Cyrus H.(born in Dutchess County, NY) and Hester (Wood) Bowne. There is more on Cyrus and Family, if you think it is a connection , I will print the rest. yours in genealogy, Joanne

Elba INGERSOLL (daughter of Lydia Ann COX and Joel INGERSOLL) was born 7 January 1830 in Newton. 29 January 1851, Elba married Theodore GRIGGS. Can anyone help me with the parentage of Theodore GRIGGS? Were there children born to Elba and Theodore? When and where did Elba and Theodore die? Where are they buried? Any help will be appreciated. TIA Mona in INdiana

Hi list, I'm sorry to post this question here, but I couldn't find a Roots mailing list that seemed appropriate and I'm hoping someone else has run into this problem. I've requested Civil War pension records from NARA for three ancestors. I received notice from NARA that two of them are XC files and in posession of the Veterans Administration. I was directed to contact my regional VA office, in Buffalo, to "gain access to them". A couple questions. What are XC files and why wouldn't NARA have them? There don't seem to be any obvious differences in the veterans, like death dates, immigrant/citizen, residence state, etc., between the one file NARA has and the two it doesn't. But I guess my main question is, am I going to have trouble getting them from the VA? I've tried calling Buffalo, but no one knows what I'm talking about. I sent a letter a few weeks ago to the address NARA provided, but no response yet. I've checked VA websites, but can't find any reference to old pension records. Any suggestions? Thanks, Kevin jake9999@msn.com

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Kevin, Something similar happened to me four year ago, I sent for my great-grandfather's Civil War pension records. The Archives told me to contact the Veteran's Administration, I did, the VA told me to contact the archives. This went on for 20 months. Finally I called the Regional Director of the VA and had the records in two months. It was worth it I got the entire file, and it was a good two inches thick. What XC means, I think is that your ancestor lived into the 20th Century and collected his pension until his death. Any pensioner who died before 1900, their records are in the custody of the Archives, after that they are the custody of the VA, even if the records are physically in the Archives. It took me two years to recover from the experience, before I tried to get the Civil War pension records for another great-grandfather. In June of 1998, I made the request. The application was immediately returned to me requesting the service number and social security number for my ancestor. Well I don't think he had a service number, and he died 30 years before social security was invented. I call the VA and reached someone who promised to help me. This happened several times, no one ever contacted me. My ancestor's name is in the data base, but they have no other information, so they can not tell if it is the same person. The only way they can make the determination is to have the file sent to California and look at it. After a year of that nonsense passed, I contacted my Congresswomen. I requested both my great-grandfather's file and my father's file. Last fall, I received a notice that the congresswoman's office had received my father's medals. I had not asked for the medals, now my government has given me over $200.00 worth of medals--nice, but no cigar. Another year has passed since the second request, I still have not seen either pension file and I have had no communication from the VA, the Archives or my Congresswoman. I am going to try the Congresswoman again, and I once again have the telephone number of the director of the VA, maybe that will work again. Basically, the problem is this. Under the freedom of information act we are entitled to the information. Congress really does not want us to have it, so they offered early retirement to the people at the archives and all but two people in this section left, then they did not appropriate money to replace the retirees. So we may be entitled to it, but they have seen to it we can not get it. That's my story, honest. Marleen Van Horne

This was on the New Jersey List. Joanne The NJ State Archives will finally be moving. They will be closing on Friday, April 7 and will re-open on Tuesday, April 25. The new address will be 225 West State Street, Level 2, Trenton, NJ. Geoffrey Cooper

From: Mark Forder <mforder@worldnet.att.net> > Hello Everyone, > > I am not the owner of this nor am I trying to sell it, I just happenened > to find it on the net. This is a link to a page from "The Newark Daily > Advertiser" dated 1839.... > http://www.anythinganywhere.com/commerce/misc/newdaad.jpg > > I thought someone may find some useful information on it. > > ---Mark > http://home.att.net/~mforder (1800's Ephemera) > >