Hi Laurie, Thank you very much for your message about Hannah Jane Culver. The reason I had 1828 as her birth date comes from the 1870 Census of Wantage Twp giving her age as 42. As far as I know all eight children were born in Wantage Twp Sussex Co NJ. Daniel was born and died there. I do not know in which cemetery he is buried. The eight children are: Laura J. b 18 Apr 1851, Edward b ca 1852, Edwin F. b 27 March 1857, Clarence T. b 20 Jan 1860, Clara b 1860 (twin?), Ida A. b 23 Aug 1862, Lenora, b 23 Aug 1862 and Estell b 26 Jan (no year). The only information I have on the children is that Clarence T. m Mary De Will and had a child Clarence D. (probably De Will) Van Sickle. In 1937 Clarence D. lived in Belleville, NJ. In 1937 Clarence T. lived in Newton, New Jersey. Any addition information would be appreciated. You wrote: >I am working on a one-name study (although I include allied lines) of the Van Sickle families, of whatever spelling used for this surname. I note a post you made to the NYFingerLakes list at Rootsweb in early April. Although the date of birth you show for your Hannah Jane differes somewhat, I believe the following is a match for you: [Daniel B^8>>William 7>>John 6>>Garret 5>>Andrew 4>> Cornelius^3>>Reinier 2>>Ferdinandus 1] Daniel B^8 VAN SICKLE, b 5 Aug 1829 ---#125, VnS1880p115: ---living 1880, near Deckertown, Sussex Co, NJ m. 9 Apr 1850, Orange Co, NY Jane CULVER, b 12 Mar 1824 ---d/o Apollos CULVER ---children: 1. Lenora I^9 VAN SICKLE, b 18 Apr 1851 ---VnS1880p.119: m. 5 Dec 1871, Sussex Co, NJ Edwin F GOLDSMITH, grocer ---1880 res: Deckertown, Sussex Co, NJ [noi VnS1880] 2. Estella VAN SICKLE, b 26 Jan--d 10 Jul 1854 3. Edwin F VAN SICKLE, b 27 Mar 1857 4. Clarence T VAN SICKLE, b 20 Jan 1860 5. Ida A VAN SICKLE, b 23 Aug 1862 VnS1880: Van Sickle, John W. "A History of the Van Sickle Family, in the United States of America" privately published, Springfield, OH, 1880. ================================ This does give a father's name for your Hannah Jane so hope it will be helpful in your quest to find her family. I note that you said they had eight children and wonder if you would share with me? Obviously, I have nothing more on this family than the lisiting given in the one source. Do you know where they lived, when & where they died, etc. Marriages for the younger children of Daniel & Hannah/Jane? Hoping we can help each other! Laurie mailto:light30@earthlink.net ps I've added your name & e-mail address to my database under the notes for Daniel & Hannah's family. That way, should more information come to me later on this family, I'll be able to send it out to you then! <

Looking for the parents of my GGgrandparents and a marriage record. Peter Pearce born 1818, hopefully in Sussex Co. He is shown in the 1850 Stillwater Twp. (Walpack) census as being 32 yrs. of age, a laborer. Peter's wife was Catherine Eilenberger (Eylenberger) b. 1814, possibly in PA. Children shown on the 1850 census are: Thomas; 10 Maria/Mary; 7 Elizabeth; 5 Sarah Jane; 1 Another dau Hannah was born in Walpack, Aug 1850. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Cynthia

Barbara wrote: > .... researchers will not be able to go to the new location to view the > records but will have to request them first from the Hall of Records and I > suppose wait for them to be sent to Newton. > I've seen this procedure in the Boston City records office as well. However, the books/documents are right there. You look it up in an index of sorts and give the source to the clerk. They will find the book, mark the page it's located, and give it to you. Takes about 20 minutes depending on the workload. I believe there is a good reason - to prevent people from leafing through the books thus causing them to deteriorate faster. Also, in some cases, the information is restricted (like adoptees birth records) and this way there is some control. It's a little inconvenient, but I think its a worthy practice to protect those sources. When it's in a different location, that's a bit more than inconvenient. At least the information is available to you ---- it could be worse! Good Luck Rich in NH

Don't want to start an "offtopic" thread here but just an observation: Noted a couple of Roots-L folks commenting on the recent viral unpleasantness and the implication that the iMACs are/were immune. Please don't get complacent! This time the MAC community lucked out for the most part. My cube neighbor and I use the only imacs in the department. She saw the critter twice in her email box and even opened it once. Fortunately the trigger did not activate (that we know of). Some of the local PC users did not fare so well. This incident apparently was pretty much restricted to systems that use a specific OS, browser, and MSWord. As far as I know Unix, Solaris, and the other "specialty" OS were not affected (or INfected). MACs are VERY susceptible to virus infections and you must take the same precautions (like keeping your virus definitions current) as the PCs. I agree that it's a good system but it's certainly not immune from the bad stuff. Now back to the exciting adventure........ Rich in NH

Dear Fred, I was at the Hall of Records in Newton about a month ago and encountered the same problem. I needed a mortgage record which had been moved to another location. Their new location is in a building located behind the Sussex Library located at the Homestead Complex. (Sussex residents, if I have the name wrong, please let me know.) However, they are not accessible at this time since they are still packed up since the new location is still under construction. A very helpful man named Richard helped me find out about them. He told me that researchers will not be able to go to the new location to view the records but will have to request them first from the Hall of Records and I suppose wait for them to be sent to Newton. Sorry, I know this is not what you wanted to hear. Personally, I am waiting for the summer and will call well in advance and see what can be arranged. B. DiMunno ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy & Fred Meek" <winmeek@swbell.net> To: <NJSUSSEX-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 12:14 AM Subject: [NJSUSSEX-L] Early Land Records - (Barber surname) > Hi List, > Does anyone know where and how to find Sussex land records that pre-date those in the Sussex Courthouse (about 1785)? One of the guys at the courthouse thought those early records are kept in the town of Red Bank New Jersey. But I have been unable to locate a name, address, or phone number. Any ideas?? > I am researching the Barber family particularly in Greenwich and Lopatcong townships of early Sussex County. > Thanks, Fred > Fred Meek > 12310 Old Oaks > Houston, TX 77024 > (713) 932-6980 home > (281) 423-5865 work > >

Hi all, I am looking for information on these two famous people (I don't know that they are that famous) but these two who lived in New Jersey and married, David Baxter wanted a divorce which didn't sit to well with the state. In an article that I read it said: During the Provincial and Colonial Periods in New Jersey, divorces were granted, if at all, by the Govenor, presumely in his capacity as Chancellor. The first exception to this practice was in 1772 when the legislature passed "An Act to Dissolve the Marriage of David Baxter with Margaret, his wife, late Margaret MacMurtry." This was such a radical departure from English precedent that the king not only disallowed the Act (Sept 1, 1773), but on Nov. 24, 1773, instructed all the Govenors in North America "that you do not upon any pretense whatsoever give your assent to any Bill or Bills...for the divorce of persons joined together in Holy Marriage". I would like to know who David's parents are and what years these two were born. thanks julie

Hi List, Does anyone know where and how to find Sussex land records that pre-date those in the Sussex Courthouse (about 1785)? One of the guys at the courthouse thought those early records are kept in the town of Red Bank New Jersey. But I have been unable to locate a name, address, or phone number. Any ideas?? I am researching the Barber family particularly in Greenwich and Lopatcong townships of early Sussex County. Thanks, Fred Fred Meek 12310 Old Oaks Houston, TX 77024 (713) 932-6980 home (281) 423-5865 work

Hi everyone, I would really appreciate everyone using the list to put the surnames involved on the subject line when e-mailing. Thanks, Susan

Hi All Hardyston is on the map. Try the New Jersey Atlas & Gazetteer found in many bookstores at $16.95. Also website www.delorme.com Allen Johnson ajohnson@twcny.rr.com

Hello list, Does anyone know anything about a town called Hardyston, or maybe Hardyslon in Sussex County? It does not appear on today's map. Is this one that possibly had its name changed over the years? Does anyone know anything about the town of McAfee near Sussex? I am looking for McDuffe(e) or McDuffy ancestors who lived in Sussex. It is possible that McAfee is a variation spelling of McDuffe(e) in the British Isles. Does anyone have a telephone number for the County Clerk's office in Sussex? Thanks. Betty MacDuff The Villages, FL

----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Everett Ayers To: NJMORRIS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 3:08 PM Subject: Change of Address Please change my present address: bobayr@atlantic.net to rayers@tampabay.rr.com Thank you, Bob Ayers

I am trying to locate the family of a MARY SISCO probably born in Sussex Co. in the very late 1700's or early 1800's. Mary married Henry Miller who may have been born in Goshen, Orange Co., NY. We don't know where Henry and Mary were married, or when. Nor do we know the parents of either. Our information is very scant. At some point, Henry and Mary crossed the Delaware River and moved into (currently) Pike Co., PA. Not knowing their religious affiliation, we don't know if the naming pattern of their children would have any bearing as it is in the Dutch families of that time period. Know children with no particular birth order were: David, William, Eliza, Margaret, Daniel, Katherine, Peter, twins John & Henry born 1833 in PA and Mary born 1735, probably PA also. Any small clue would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Cynthia

I have a copy of my grandfather's Form SS-5 from Social Security which lists his current employer as W.PA. 4955 Unit # 2 and also lists a US Employment registration card number. This was filled out and signed on May 22, 1937. Does anyone on the list know if there is a address to write to for any records that might be available through the federal government for his employment with the WPA? We have hit a brick wall on him and I'm trying to find any clue to break through. Karl N. Harring Fort Lauderdale, FL

You Re: me in the Warren And Sussex subject, so I responded from my info in that area. the sussex N.J,. Marriages lists David kimble to Martha Rose March 17, 1796 it also lists Emeline to Elias Hankerson July 17,1845 Wm. J. to Ruth W. Losey James D.(Sparta)to Emma Rodgers 11/10/1866 Joseph to Jane Shorter 5/15/1858 Maria (Sparta) to Nelson Washer 1/17/1867 Mary J. to Walter J. Ross 2/18/1870 Sarah ( Hardyston) to Ira W. Strait 9/26/1874 -----Original Message----- From: Judith Oldham [mailto:joldham@fastlane.net] Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 3:58 AM To: Joanne Subject: Re: [NJWARREN] FW: [NJ] RE: [NJSUSSEX-L] Dennis Joanne, Got to thinking....if this is from the Sussex County book, then the info on David MUST be my David Kimble of Sussex. One of the references might be his marriage to Martha Rose at the Stillwater Reformed Church in 1796. But not sure what the other one would be, unless it is the Tax List of 1793. If either of the David Kimble references are different from these, might you tell me? Thanks so much! Judith Joanne wrote: > Kemble > Ephraim pg. 406 > Ephraim jr. pg. 406 > Garret pg. 193 > Jacob pg. 222 > Michael R. pg. 177,193,194,198 > Robert pg. 406 > > Kimble > David pg. 333,452 > Ephraim pg. 408 > Garret pg. 333,343 > Richard pg. 350 > Robert M. pg. 408 > Sarah pg. 393 > Kimble & English pg.414 > > yours in genealogy > Joanne > -----Original Message----- > From: Judith Oldham [mailto:joldham@fastlane.net] > Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2000 8:54 PM > To: Joanne > Subject: Re: [NJWARREN] FW: [NJ] RE: [NJSUSSEX-L] Dennis > > Some of us are trying to see if the Kimmel name could have evolved into > Kimble > in that area. Might there be a Kimble in the Orange County book? > > I know I am asking alot, and would have asked at one time, had I realized! > > Thanks again so much! > > Judith > > Joanne wrote: > > > Hello > > first I found in the Portrait and Bio records of Orange County New York > > > > under Eli Van Inwegen > > > > skipping a few Paragraphs > > William Cole, Cool , as the name was sometimes spelt, wedded Catherine > > DuBois, and located at Machachemech, now the southern part of Port Jervis. > > His son Josias married Maria Kimmell about 1740, and their child was > > baptized in the Machachemech Church in 1743, as the records show. > > > > none listed in the Sussex & Warren county History by snell. > > yours in genealogy > > Joanne > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Judith Oldham [mailto:joldham@fastlane.net] > > Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 9:22 PM > > To: sound1@fcc.net > > Subject: Re: [NJWARREN] FW: [NJ] RE: [NJSUSSEX-L] Dennis > > > > Hi Joanne, > > > > Thanks for this info (I am sure I thanked you previously). > > > > Would you be willing to see if there were any Kimmels? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Judith > > > > > > > > > >

The Orange County Genealogical Society is sponsoring a FREE SEMINAR on Saturday May 13, 2000 Seminar will be held at the Goshen United Methodist Church, Main Street, Goshen, NY (NEXT DOOR TO 1841 HISTORIC COURTHOUSE) Seminar Registration: 9:30 AM with refreshments First Session: 10:00 AM to 11:00 AM Sleuthing in the Stacks: Using Non-Traditional Resources to Uncover Genealogical Clues. Second Session: 11:30 AM to 12:30 PM "To the Honorable the Board of Supervisors...": A Genealogist's Guide to Identifying and Using the Obscure and Uncommon Records of Local (City, Town and County) Governments Lunch Break: 12:30 PM to 1:30 PM Sandwiches offered at $5.00 each includes salad, beverage and desserts. Third Session: 2:00 PM to 3:00 PM Going Beyond City Directories: Biographical, Professional, Occupational and College Directories as a Genealogist's Research Tool Our speaker: Meldon J. Wolfgang III has been doing his own and professional research since 1961. He has been featured as a speaker at several National Genealogical Society's Annual Conferences in the US and the annual FGS Conference. He has also spoken at American Society of Genealogists, the New England Historic Genealogical Society, the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society, the Indiana State Historical Society, the New Jersey State Historical Society, the Palatines to America, and numerous other regional and local societies. You will find the presentations to be lively and thought provoking. Come join the FUN. We hope to make this a day you won't forget for a long time to come. Orange County Genealogical Society, 101 Main St., Goshen, NY 10924

Munson Amos to Elizabeth Ryerson Jan 14, 1824 Calvin to Sophia Powlerson Nov. 5, 1808 Calvin to Sally Winans Nov. 13, 1814 Catherine to James Degrow Apr. 25, 1841 (Col) Hiram to Rebecca Pitney Aug. 18, 1831 James L. (Hardyston) to Catherine Decker 1/4/1837 Lewis to Phebe Teke 12/24/1815 Mary Ann to Nathaniel Johnson July 30, 1814 Philatus to Rebecca Clark 3/21/1812 Samuel to Elizabeth Decker 12/31/1829 Sarah (Byram) to Reading Stark 3/8/1818 Sofiah to John H. Simpson Aug. 19, 1824 Amelia (Franklin Furnace) to ? George 1/13/1877 George H. to Rebecca Ann George 12/10/1873 Lydia to Andrew J. VanCott 9/26/1875 Mary O. (Sparta) to William P. Case 12/4/1843 hope this helps yours in genealogy Joanne -----Original Message----- From: PATRICIA RODRIGUEZ [mailto:PATTYCAKE71963@HOTMAIL.COM] Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 2:39 AM To: sound1@qed.net Subject: sussex weddings hello Joann,,,while going through the Sussex archives I came across your wedding post,,,it look to be all "D" last names,,,,do you have a "M" list,,,also I noticed the name Elizabeth Dangle married William Berry 11 jan 1840 do you have any more information on them,,,I have had a hard time locating Berry's in Sussex Co,, my ggg grand father was a William Berry Munson,,,any help would be appreciated Patty

Hello first I found in the Portrait and Bio records of Orange County New York under Eli Van Inwegen skipping a few Paragraphs William Cole, Cool , as the name was sometimes spelt, wedded Catherine DuBois, and located at Machachemech, now the southern part of Port Jervis. His son Josias married Maria Kimmell about 1740, and their child was baptized in the Machachemech Church in 1743, as the records show. none listed in the Sussex & Warren county History by snell. yours in genealogy Joanne -----Original Message----- From: Judith Oldham [mailto:joldham@fastlane.net] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 9:22 PM To: sound1@fcc.net Subject: Re: [NJWARREN] FW: [NJ] RE: [NJSUSSEX-L] Dennis Hi Joanne, Thanks for this info (I am sure I thanked you previously). Would you be willing to see if there were any Kimmels? Thanks! Judith > > > >

Hello list ,,,I came a cross the names Elizabeth Dangle (dangler) whom married a William Berry on 11 jan 1840 through the archives can any one tell me about this line,,,I am very,very interested in William Berry thanks patty ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Joan & Paula, Thanks I'm glad you liked the images... I managed to identify one of the individuals thanks to this book...http://home.att.net/~mforder03/mark425.JPG Just in case your interested Ms. Kate Gordon & Mr. Wayne T. McCabe and were the primary source for the information,(the gentleman sitting is Damian Broda). This is Henry C. Bunnell... http://home.att.net/~mforder02/mark450a.JPG There are two other faces which are pictured in this book as well that match the images. It looks like they were part of the Newton Steamer Company. This gentleman was the Chief.. http://home.att.net/~mforder02/mark450h.JPG This gentleman was in the same photo, (only younger) in the background... http://home.att.net/~mforder02/mark450d.JPG if it's not him then he must be a relative. I think this might be Lewis Morford, there's a picture of him when he was younger in the book and this image... http://home.att.net/~mforder02/mark450b.JPG looks very much like him only older. The first image I'm pretty sure of, the remaing are just speculation. Thanks again, ---Mark

I second that. These old photos are terrific. Those that are able to be identified, will you please post names to list? Joan Dawdy Wilton