Found this today at ROOTS-L Digest Vol. #439. They don't seem to be any of my family, but thought maybe somebody might know. X-Message: #16 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:03:37 -0400 From: "Tabitha Davis" <mmdavis@hspower.com> Subject: RUDE/HANN family of New Jersey Hello, I am having problems tracing my RUDE family connections of New Jersey. I'm hoping that someone reading this can help me piece it together and fill in the blanks. If you recognize any of these names, please contact me. My email address is mmdavis@hspower.com. I recently spoke with my grandfather, HARRY FISHER RUDE, born in 1917 in Plainfield, New Jersey. I'm not sure which county, as I have found it listed in several. His parents were PETER ALVAH RUDE (5 Dec 1884, NJ--28 Apr 1977, NJ) and IDA MAE HANN (2 Feb 1888--after 1945). This much we are pretty sure of. The rest that follows he wasn't absolutely positive of. Grandpa said the family was from Plainfield, and some from Old Germantown, which was later renamed Oldwick. PETER ALVAH RUDE was the son of WINFIELD RUDE, no dates known. I haven't found him listed anywhere on census records or anything else. I did find a marriage record that seems to have some significance, but I am not sure it ties in yet. In Sussex County, on 4 Jan 1827 a HENRY RUDE married MARY WINFIELD. From this I am currently assuming that these are my WINFIELD RUDE's parents, but am looking for some proof. I don't have access to the census records as I am in SC, but I am pretty sure that WINFIELD would have been shown as a child living with his parents on the 1860 and possibly 1850 census somewhere in NJ. Grandpa said he had two brothers. One was FRANCIS RUDE, who died at age nine months. The other was GEORGE RUDE, who was born in 1912 in NJ, and died in 1992 in Canada. GEORGE married a lady named JULIA. Grandpa also told me that his grandfather, WINFIELD RUDE had a half-brother named FRED RUDE ACKERMAN, who my father is named after, as well as having alot of other siblings. He didn't know whether his father PETER ALVAH RUDE had any siblings. FRED RUDE ACKERMAN sold insurance in Summerville, New Jersey. He also mentioned he had a first cousin in southern New Jersey named DOROTHY AMMERMAN who married a man named CHARLES. If any of this ties in with your family, please help me out. I don't have easy access to New Jersey records, and keep hitting brick walls. I am also looking for any information on the HANN side of the family. IDA MAE HANN's father was named SYLVESTER HANN. Thanks for your time!! Tabetha (Rude) Davis Saluda, SC mmdavis@hspower.com ---------------------------

Hello, I am having problems tracing my RUDE family connections of New Jersey. I'm hoping that someone reading this can help me piece it together and fill in the blanks. If you recognize any of these names, please contact me. My email address is mmdavis@hspower.com. I recently spoke with my grandfather, HARRY FISHER RUDE, born in 1917 in Plainfield, New Jersey. I'm not sure which county, as I have found it listed in several. His parents were PETER ALVAH RUDE (5 Dec 1884, NJ--28 Apr 1977, NJ) and IDA MAE HANN (2 Feb 1888--after 1945). This much we are pretty sure of. The rest that follows he wasn't absolutely positive of. Grandpa said the family was from Plainfield, and some from Old Germantown, which was later renamed Oldwick. PETER ALVAH RUDE was the son of WINFIELD RUDE, no dates known. I haven't found him listed anywhere on census records or anything else. I did find a marriage record that seems to have some significance, but I am not sure it ties in yet. In Sussex County, on 4 Jan 1827 a HENRY RUDE married MARY WINFIELD. From this I am currently assuming that these are my WINFIELD RUDE's parents, but am looking for some proof. I don't have access to the census records as I am in SC, but I am pretty sure that WINFIELD would have been shown as a child living with his parents on the 1860 and possibly 1850 census somewhere in NJ. Grandpa said he had two brothers. One was FRANCIS RUDE, who died at age nine months. The other was GEORGE RUDE, who was born in 1912 in NJ, and died in 1992 in Canada. GEORGE married a lady named JULIA. Grandpa also told me that his grandfather, WINFIELD RUDE had a half-brother named FRED RUDE ACKERMAN, who my father is named after, as well as having alot of other siblings. He didn't know whether his father PETER ALVAH RUDE had any siblings. FRED RUDE ACKERMAN sold insurance in Summerville, New Jersey. He also mentioned he had a first cousin in southern New Jersey named DOROTHY AMMERMAN who married a man named CHARLES. If any of this ties in with your family, please help me out. I don't have easy access to New Jersey records, and keep hitting brick walls. I am also looking for any information on the HANN side of the family. IDA MAE HANN's father was named SYLVESTER HANN. Thanks for your time!! Tabetha (Rude) Davis Saluda, SC mmdavis@hspower.com ---------------------------

This has a free demo to try!!! http://www.civilwardata.com/index.html yours in Genealogy Joanne

Until July 7th, Ancestry.com has this file available for free searches - the records of the Sparta Presbyterian Church at the time of its centennial celebration in 1886. Also included is a history of the community. http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4716.htm Happy Hunting, Cathy DiPietro vdpcom@warwick.net listowner NJSussex

Sue, I would be willing to proofread anyone of the census lists that you need done. Please contact me at baubert@fast.net

My cousin, Joan, went to Salt Lake and this is what she sent that may be of interest. Info on Edward Hunt differs from what I had previously gotten from Everett Hunt. The info is also more complete. "BUT!!!!!!! Found some stuff on David that we can digest and evaluate. In Pioneer Families of Northwestern New Jersey by William Armstrong (I'll send you copies of the six pages when I get home) I found the following. 1. Ralph Hunt arrived Newtown, Long Island before 1656 2. Samuel Hunt who moved to Hunterdon Co, NJ 3. Thomas Hunt who settles in Somerset Co and then Sussex Co 4. Edward Hunt born 1744, married Hannah Pierson had 12 children one of whom was 5. Jacob Hunt born Oct 18, 1773, married Susanna Pittinger also had 12 children one of whom was 6. David Hunt born May 22, 1823 died May 17, 1895, married Elizabeth Humes (with an "m") who died Oct. 15, 1861 and had six children 1.Charles, who married Abbie Jacobus and had Mable 2.Fannie 3.Daniel who was twice married; by his first wife _____ Unganst he had a daughter; by his second wife, Ellen Ophelia Oliver, he had a daughter Eva. 4.George 5.Whitfield 6.Martha" I do know that Daniel's secpmd wife was Ella Ophelia Oliver and that they had a daughter Eva Gertrude Hunt who married Roland Congdon. She was my grandmother. I also know that Charles Hunt & Abbie had two other children Mable and Robert Barb

In several places I've seen that James Clark of Unionville, NY was in Rosencrans Wantage Company of Militia. Is there a list of the men in that company? Does NJ Men in the Revolution include the militia? I need a reliable reference for a DAR application. Dorrie in Lexington, MA FERRETT99@Prodigy.net I used to have a handle on life, but it broke.

Searching for Dan Burroughs,active in the Orange Co. Historical Society.My husband is a descendant of Silas Utter and I believe that Dan's wife 's family includes some Utters. Could there be a connection???? GertGray

According to info from Kindred Konnections info on JACOB HUNT; his wife, SUSANNA PITTINGER; Jacob's father EDWARD HUNT; and jacob's mother, HANNAH PIERSON can be found in Pioneer Families of Northwestern New Jersey, p 265-266 (FHL #978.97 D2a) and p. 263, 264, 265. Can anyone check these references for me? I'm trying to locate father of DAVID HUNT, b. 1823. The info gives David's date of birth (in the right year) but his ancestors don't jobe with other info I have received. The info came from Kindred Konnections Individual Record m7669769 at http://209.140.72.162/cgi-bin/genealogy/kkingv?93392+961953119+N3813+37+97+English+0 Edward's date of birth and wife don't agree with other info I have on the Ralph Hunt line. Barb

>From 4/20/1927 Wilkes-Barre Evening News - funeral of Joseph P. Lance, formerly of Plymouth in Merchantsville, NJ on Monday (4/17) Internment in Philadelphia, PA. son of late William L. Lance, coal operator, Plymouth nephews Wayne and J. H. Lance, Kingston, PA; WIlliam Lance, Wilkes-Barre.

Records from two publications indicate that John Peter LANCE b 1708 Germany, d 1771 NJ, came to America about 1738. There is an indication that ANTHONY LANCE b1798 d 1835 is a decendant of John Peter ANTHONY appears to have had only two children, John and Jacob. No records seem to exist for their marriages or offspring. Best guesses on dates of birth for the two boys is between 1820 and 1825. William LANCE, b 1820 married a CHARLOTTE or SHARLOTTE of unknown last name. Willim's first son, b 1852 in or near Blairstown, NJ was ANTHONY LANCE. There appears a connection between these men,but I've yet to establish it. Any help much appreciated. Laurence Lance Seattle

My father just sent me a link to a great "universal translator" site. You can type in a message in almost any language & have it instantly translated to another. Maybe I'm the last person on the net to discover this, but in case I'm not...... http://www.babelfish.com/ Cindy Torres Owens Stafford, VA cindyo@va.prestige.net http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/o/w/e/Cindy-L-Owens/index.html

I lost all my notes on that birthday site discussion. I don't want to start the discussion all over again, I just would like someone to e-mail me privately with the URL. Thank, Lydia Rockcress@aol.com

Pat, I checked of couple of article's which I've copied in the past from the Genealogical Magazine of NJ. Volume 42 was 1967; Volume IX was 1933. The math doesn't work out quite right...but it would make 1903 about volume 6. Jan Reuther

----- Original Message ----- From: Butch & Sher To: Mark Forder Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 11:30 AM Subject: Sussex County Information Dear Mark, I wish to thank you for sending on the address of the Sussex County site to the list members. I especially enjoyed the section on the history of the Sussex Co. Court House. My Revolutionary ancestor, Capt. Conrad Gontterman, commanded guard over Continental prisoners on and off at the court house over the period of Jan. 27, 1777 - Dec. 20th, 1779 as well as serving in the Battle of Germantown, Elizabethtown, at Minisink and along the Delaware. He resigned from the Sussex Co. Militia in 1788. Viewing the picture of the first Court house I could imagine Conrad keeping guard at the jail/gaol door under the steps of the court house. Thanks again for sharing! Sheryl Gunderman Robinson

Christie, I'm sorry that the link did not work. Please try this I managed to find the page via a search.... http://www.google.com/search?q=%2B%22sussex+railroad%22+%2Bwright+%2Barrival &num=10&meta=hl%3Den%26lr%3D&safe=off Good luck, ---Mark -----Original Message----- From: ChristieTrapp@aol.com [mailto:ChristieTrapp@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 9:59 AM To: mforder@worldnet.att.net Cc: NJ-L@rootsweb-com Subject: Re: [NJ] Newton, NJ Sussex County In a message dated 6/23/2000 1:46:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mforder@worldnet.att.net writes: << [NJ] Newton, NJ Sussex County Date: 6/23/2000 1:46:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: mforder@worldnet.att.net (Mark Forder) To: NJ-L@rootsweb.com Hello eveyone, I just stumbled across this web page and wanted to share it with those of you who may find it useful. The page covers various individuals and parts of Newton, NJ from the early 1800's to the 20th century based on the subject. If you go to the bottom of the page you will find links to other subjects. Here is a link to the page... http://www2.cybernex.net/~wright/ Hope you enjoy it as much as I did. ---Mark >> Mark: I think you have a mistake in the URL listed above as I could not connect. I even tried removing the 2 following the "www," but it didn't work. Are you sure this is correct?

24 June, 2000 Hello, Could someone please answer a question for me regarding the Genealogy Magazine of New Jersey. I need to know either: (1) When did publication begin? -or- (2) What is the volume number for the year, 1930? On the Sussex County GenWeb Site, cemetery records of interest to me are listed as being published in the magazine beginning Jan., 1930. The LDS films for the magazine are organized by volume numbers, not years. There are four films for the 43 volumes. You see the problem. I'd rather order one film than four films. TIA, very much. Pat albright@best.com

Hello Mark, I enjoyed your work a great deal, could have saved myself $18.99 + tax. Just bought the "Images of America" NEWTON, by Kate Gordon and Wayne T. Mc Cabe that was published by Arcadia an imprint of Tempus Publishing Inc. 1998. who did the work first.?? Mark Forder wrote: > Hello eveyone, > > I just stumbled across this web page and wanted to share it with those of > you who may find it useful. The page covers various individuals and parts > of Newton, NJ from the early 1800's to the 20th century based on the > subject. If you go to the bottom of the page you will find links to other > subjects. > > Here is a link to the page... > > http://www2.cybernex.net/~wright/ > > Hope you enjoy it as much as I did. > > ---Mark

Hello eveyone, I just stumbled across this web page and wanted to share it with those of you who may find it useful. The page covers various individuals and parts of Newton, NJ from the early 1800's to the 20th century based on the subject. If you go to the bottom of the page you will find links to other subjects. Here is a link to the page... http://www2.cybernex.net/~wright/ Hope you enjoy it as much as I did. ---Mark

Hello searchers: I have been transcribing the 1880 Federal census for the GenWeb project also. I now have 5 completed with Mz Cathi Di Pietro proofing my Andover Twp. I need to get Byram,Green,Frankford and Hampton proofed so they can be put online. I can send as a Excel file, or as a "hard" paper copy. The Excel copy is laid out like the page with all columns presented. The Hard copy is printed the same. So you can follow the whole entry across in the original as well as the transcribed presentation. After I get back the proofs, the sheet will also include the proofreader and date in the final submission to the GenWeb Project. Thank you for reading, Respectfully Keith W Brown Indianapolis, IN http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/r/o/Keith-W-Brown