. ROGER D. JOSLYN, CG, FASG BORN IN NEW YORK, BUT WHERE IN NEW YORK SATURDAY, DECEMBER 2, 2000 10:30 A M Orange County Genealogical Society 1841 Historic Courthouse 101 Main Street, Goshen, NY 10924 Working back from the 20th to the 17th, century the focus of this presentation is on sources, which help identify research on an individual or family when only "born in New York" may be know. Discussion concentrates on records of the 19th century---most researchers' "brick wall" ---and includes in-depth coverage of certain key sources. About our speaker Roger D. Joslyn, CG, FASG, is a Fellow of the American Society of Genealogists and the Utah Genealogical Association. He holds a Bachelor of Arts degree from the University of California at Davis. A full-time genealogist since 1978, he became a Certified Genealogist in 1981. He is a member of numerous genealogical organizations, including the New England Historic Genealogical Society, where he was a part-time staff member from 1978 to 1982; the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society, where he serves on the Education and Publication Committee and the Library Committee; and the National Genealogical Society, where he served on program committees for that organization's annual Conference in the States; the Orange County Genealogical Society. A genealogical writer, his articles have appeared in The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, the American Genealogist, The Genealogist, The New England Historic and Genealogical Resister, the National Genealogical Society Quarterly, The Mayflower Descendant, and several other national publications. He is the author of the Mid-Atlantic state chapters in Ancestry's Red Book. Roger has lectured widely on New York topics. Mr. Joslyn lives in the Hudson Valley of New York with his wife, Barbara, two sons, and three cats. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC Reservations are not mandatory, but to allow for sufficient handouts to be available for all those in attendance, we ask that you advise us in advance of your interest in this program. You may send a post card to the address listed above or send an e-mail to <mvtgrterry@aol.com>

Laurence- I have the following Deckers as per a list in the Gen. Mag. of NJ - copied 1930-31: James d. 1867 John W. d. 1900 wife Anna Vansyckle d. 1923 w/ Sarah Vansyckle Levi d. 1901 Lucetta Perigo d. 1895 Michael wife Susannah d. 1855 Ray C. d 1920 wife Edna F. b 1883 no date of death There is a bit more information given about each of these folks if you need it. Regards, Lorie >I assume that a DECKERTOWN cemetery would have Decker people in it. >I'm looking for my g grandmother, Emma Decker. Ten years of search... no luck >yet. >Laurence >Seattle >

Does the Titsworth cemetery still exist (Sussex? Wantage?)? Has anyone copied the names on those headstones, or is there a place to go to get that information? Thanks...Janet Janet Lamb, RSM/Merion jlamb@sistersofmercymerion.org

Hello list- Does anyone know who OWNS the Deckertown/Union Cemetery (also known as Papakating Cemetery)? Is it owned by the county? Thanks, Lorie

Have ancestors William Sanford Decker who married 1st) Nancy B. Little, and 2nd) to Elvira Perrigo (daughter of John and Clarrisa Perrigo who were living in Vernon Twp. Sussex Co., NJ in the 1850 fed census). I am in need of info re: Wm Sanford Decker's parents. Sanford Decker's obituary in Iowa stated he was born 15 July 1815 in Hamburg, Hardyston Twp., Sussex Co., NJ and he died in Jefferson Twp., Poweshiek Co., IA 23 May 1900. It stated his wife, Elvira Perrigo, was from the same area. Does anyone have a connection or is researching a John and Clarrisa (Miller or Conklin) Perrigo? Have recently received some good Perrigo information from Nancy Paschal who researches the Sussex Co., area, but I need more varification as to the parents of my John Perrigo. Thanks you....any info please direct to sweeneygj@aol.com George Sweeney

I have found a Mrs P. Kittle. Anyone know who P. Kittle is? His wife would have been born 1837-1850? They were living in NJ in 1904. Thank you, sharon (:o)

Hi, Folks, I've posted the above cemetery to my web page. You can see it at http://RAUB-and-more.com/freeunioncem.html. I believe this is the Free Union Cemetery North of Mountain Lake Rd. (Rt. 617) on Marble Hill Rd., Liberty Township...but I'm not certain. I do know that it is next to Free Union Methodist Church. If anyone can confirm the location of this cemetery, I'd appreciate hearing from you. Jan Reuther

----- Original Message ----- From: Butch & Sher To: Jan Reuther Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 2:18 PM Subject: Mary Kishpaugh Hello Jan Reuther, I was just checking out your KISHPAUGH line. I have LANTERMANs and KISHPAUGHs in my GUNDERMAN line. (I know Bob Lanterman and we have connected our lines.) My 4th great grandfather, WILLIAM GUNTERMAN married 1. MARY SIMMONS and 2. MARY KISHPAUGH SIMMONS. (8/17/1790-5/14/1854) She had first married a brother of MARY SIMMONS, JOHN SIMMONS. She was his second wife. He first married an UPTEGROVE. The children from WILLIAM GUNTERMAN's second marriage to MARY KISHPAUGH SIMMONS were a SAMUEL, (SUSAN SIMMONS) MARTHA (KITHCART), and JOHN. Some place in my files I have the children from MARY KISHPAUGH's first marriage. Found them: MARY ANN (BENJAMIN SCHOOLEY CASE) ELIZABETH (ELLIS JONES) JOHN (died young) CHARITY (Wm BEARDSLEY) ADAM (died young) ZACHARIAS (CATHERINE EATON) FRANCIS MORAN (1. MARY DORMINDA, 2. JANE TOTTEN) I have MARY KISHPAUGH's parents listed as: JOHN & MARY A. KISHPAUGH. Besides MARY, they had children named JOHN. JONAS, ELIZABETH (JOHN COLTS), and JANE (PETER SNOOK). Can you connect this family to yours in any way?

OCTOBER: FAMILY HISTORY MONTH Orange County Genealogical Society 1841 Historic Courthouse 101 Main Street, Goshen, NY 10924 Saturday, Oct. 7, 2000 10:30 AM INTRODUCTION TO LDS FAMILY HISTORY LIBRARY RESOURCES presented by: Helen Perna Helen Perna is the Library Director of the Middletown Branch of Jesus Christ Church of the Latter Day Saints, located at Scotchtown. Resources available at a Family History Center are invaluable to all genealogists. Your Family History Center is an extension of the Family History Library at Salt Lake City, Utah. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Tuesday, Oct. 24, 2000 7:00 PM CENSUS RECORDS: 1790 TO 1920 presented by: Dan Burrows Dan has been a member of OCGS for over 12 years and has actively taken part in most of its projects during that time. He has put together a comprehensive and detailed presentation on how to use and get the most out of Census records to further your genealogical research. In short, research on any individual is by no means complete until you have checked every possible census for that person during his lifetime. both programs are FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC Reservations are not mandatory, but to allow for sufficient handouts to be available for all those in attendance, we ask that you advise us in advance of your interest our programs. You may send a postcard to the address listed above or send an e-mail to <mvtgrterry@aol.com>

Does anyone recognize the family below? I received some of the information today from another researcher. There is perhaps another sibling too. Descendants of Margaret F. 'Maggie'_______ 1 Margaret F. 'Maggie'________ b. September 29, 1873 +_______ SNOOK m: Abt. 1893 2 Harry SNOOK b. December 1894 2 Charles SNOOK b. April 1896 *2nd Husband of Margaret F. 'Maggie'_______: + Alfred GOBLE b. June 5, 1864 in Port Jervis, NY m: Bef. 1899 2 George S. GOBLE b. May 1899 2 Edward W. GOBLE b. May 1903 2 Alfred GOBLE b. 1908 2 Isabelle GOBLE b. 1909 Alfred and Maggie were living in Newton (on Shadey Lane) 1900 to 1905, perhaps till 1913. Alfred must have died before 1915. Their children Alfred & Isabelle were put into an orphanage. What happen to the other children? Also looking for Maggie's maiden name and name of her first husband _____ SNOOK. This may help someone researching SNOOK/GOBLE Alfred Ray SNOOK b. 16 October 1860 in Sussex County, NJ m: Abt 1888 in Sussex County, NJ d. 1920 Margaret Ellen HUFF b. 6 May 1862 in Stillwater Twp., Sussex County, NJ d. 1948 in Newton, Sussex County, NJ her parents Joseph L. HUFF and Elenor HOOVER Allen E. Johnson ajohnson@twcny.rr.com

Hi Group~ Could someone tell me what religious affiliation Daniel Predmore was? Was it Presbyterian? My gggg grandparent's John Chamberlain and Mary Little(Littel)were married by him in 1808 and the marriage shows up in his docket, as well as Sussex Co Vital marriage records. I am just curious, as by the time my Chamberlain's moved to Steuben Co NY abt 1830 they were Baptist's as my ggg grandfather James Chamberlain m. Elcy Williams, direct descendant of Roger Williams, who founded the Baptist Religion I believe. Thanks for your help.... Penny Kresl e-mail: kresl@elknet.net Penny's Genealogy: http://www.elknet.net/kresl/Penny/penny.html Delavan, WI.USA

Hi, Folks, I've added this small cemetery in Sussex County to my web site. You can see it at http://raub-and-more.com/balesville.html. Also, for those of you interested in this sort of thing, my son, Scott, has achieved a dream of meeting Bono of U2. There's a photo of Scott with Bono at http://raub-and-more.com/narrative/narrative.html. Jan Reuther

Hi List In the Genealogical Helper it says "Earlier Records are kept in the Bureau of Archives and History Department of Education, State Street, Trenton, NJ. Records of deeds from 1664 to 1703 are in the NJ Archives, Vol XXI; from 1664 to 1790 in the Secretary of State's Office. What I would like to know is if these have ever been microfilmed or otherwise published somewhere? Has anyone ever searched these records? This might give me land records for my Thomas Harden as I cannot find anything at Newton. Thanks for any help. Connie Sorensen

Does anyone recognize the family below? I received some of the information today from another researcher. There is perhaps another sibling too. Descendants of Margaret F. 'Maggie' _______ 1 Margaret F. 'Maggie' _______ b: September 29, 1873 . +_______ SNOOK m: Abt. 1893 ... 2 Harry SNOOK b: December 1894 ... 2 Charles SNOOK b: April 1896 *2nd Husband of Margaret F. 'Maggie' _______: . +Alfred GOBLE b: June 05, 1864 in Port Jervis, NY m: Bef. 1899 ... 2 George S. GOBLE b: May 1899 ... 2 Edward W. GOBLE b: May 1903 ... 2 Alfred GOBLE b: 1908 ... 2 Isabelle GOBLE b: 1909 Alfred and Maggie were living in Newton (on Shadey Lane) 1900 to 1905, perhaps till 1913. Alfred must have died before 1915. Their children Alfred & Isabelle were put into an orphanage. What happen to the other children? Also looking for Maggie's maiden name and the name of her first husband _______ SNOOK. Cannot place Harry or Charles Snook in my database. Nancy Pascal

Hello Everyone, Once again I was looking for 19th century documents on the web from NJ and I found this page http://www.philbansner.com/. Click on the tab at the top of the page that says "U.S. Postal History" this will bring you to another window where you can enter various search criteria. I entered "NJ." in the box named "text search" and it returned a few other states but if you page down you'll see a large number of items under "New Jersey". You can click on the "View Photo" hyperlink and it will bring you to the image. Click the "Go Back" hyperlink to return to your search results. Good luck and as always I hope this info helps. ---Mark http://homeatt.net/~mforder ...1800's Ephemera

Hi All Rick is correct. The �old� Beemerville Cemetery is across from Day care. It is on the corner of Rt 519 and Crigger Road. It is not marked and I only use the term �old� to differentiate it from the �New� Beemerville, which is just down Rt 519 about 1/2 mile on the other side of Space Farms. The Old Cemetery is mowed at least, but many of the Tombstones are broken and fallen over and the woodchucks are undermining the upright markers. It was neglected for many, many years. The cemetery is now being maintained by the Sheriff's Office SWAP Program. Unfortunately, there are no funds to repair tombstones, nor will there be until more people who are researching their anceastors, band together to have these old cemeteries declaried hitorical sites, before they are gone forever. The house next to this old cemetery, is the home of Mr. Space, and he told us a little bit of history concerning this cemetery. Evidently some time ago, a man was hired to fix the stone wall around the cemetery, which the man did. It was only afterward, it was discovered that the man had used �tombstones� to repair the wall. After, having been told of this event, we look more closely at the wall and sure enough there are tombstones there. So, if your missing an ancestor who should be here, now you know why you can't find them. The Cemetery on Rt. 637 (also known as Beemer Church Road) is the Beemerville Church Cemetery also know as the Beemerville Meeting house Cemetery. I live about 7 miles from all three cemeteries and have relatives in all of them. Harold

To All, My cousin is here and he lives in Sussex Co., NJ. He is part of a project that has been maintaining the cemeteries through the Sheriff's Office SWAP Program. The cemetery across from Space Farms musem (and Day Care Center) is known as Beemerville Cemetery. "Old Beemer Church Cemetery" is located on South side of 637 just east if Dalrymple road. This is a very small cemetery. The one on 519 behind the church in Beemerville is not named on my map. He will try to find out the name of that Cemetery. Nancy NilesRick@aol.com wrote: > > Greetings, > > If I may, my two cents worth on the Beemerville Cemetery(s). I visited Beemerville in late August during our annual trip back east from CA to visit family. I visited an 'unlabeled' cemetery right on 519 (west side) across the street from a Day Care (and possible church?) and maybe a 1/4 mile south of Space Farms. I'm not sure if this would be the 'old' one or the 'new' one. I didn't look for or find a second cemetery. The cemetery was overgrown by grass but not much brush. The iron gate through the stone wall surrounding the cemetery faced the road and it looked like it hadn't been opened in weeks if not months (lots of tall grass growing through it). The most recent markers I saw were from about 1905 with most from before 1850. I'm curious if anyone knows who 'owns' this cemetery. It looks like it is slowly fading away. > > Rick Novak

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I seem to have confusion and I wonder if someone has the information that can straighten out my confusion. Edward MABEE of Beaver Run (1830-1914) married Mary E. HARDEN (1833-1912). I have a marriage date for them as 3 Dec. 1863. Is this correct? It can't be correct, because the 1880 census (Lafayette, Sussex Co.) lists John MABEE as son and age 25 years. That makes his birth date about 1854, right? Then in North Church Cemetery is a record of "Sarah MABEE, daughter of Edward and Mary, died 26 October 1851, aged 7 months." If that Sarah is the daughter of this Edward and Mary, then they would have to have been married by 1850 or 1851, right? And Mary would have only been 17 or 18 when married. That isn't impossible. Had Edward had been married previously and that wife had been named Mary, too? Not impossible, of course. Edward is buried in North Church Cemetery with granddaughter, Belle MABEE daughter of John MABEE and Cad ROE. She died 1891. But it seems that Mary MABEE was buried in Mt. Olivet Cemetery in California. Can anyone help? Thanks. Mona in Indiana

Sounds like the one I visited in the 80's and at that time there were sheep pastured in the cemetery with the stone wall being the fence. This was the Old Beemerville Cemetery and the New Beemerville Cemetery was nearby and well maintained. The Old Beemerville was in deplorable condition. Incidentally, my Ayers ancestor Enoch Ayers has a marker there that was standing at the time, but it was not included in the listing that was done by someone in the past and that was supplied to me by the historical society. His wife Catherine Hoppaugh survived him and at her death was buried in the New Beemerville Cemetery. J. Kelsey Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Pascal" <pascalfl@gate.net> To: <NJSUSSEX-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [NJSUSSEX-L] Beemerville cemetery > I'm sure the one Rick is talking about is the 'Old' Beemerville Cem. > > Nancy > > NilesRick@aol.com wrote: > > > > Greetings, > > > > If I may, my two cents worth on the Beemerville Cemetery(s). I visited Beemerville in late August during our annual trip back east from CA to visit family. I visited an 'unlabeled' cemetery right on 519 (west side) across the street from a Day Care (and possible church?) and maybe a 1/4 mile south of Space Farms. I'm not sure if this would be the 'old' one or the 'new' one. I didn't look for or find a second cemetery. The cemetery was overgrown by grass but not much brush. The iron gate through the stone wall surrounding the cemetery faced the road and it looked like it hadn't been opened in weeks if not months (lots of tall grass growing through it). The most recent markers I saw were from about 1905 with most from before 1850. I'm curious if anyone knows who 'owns' this cemetery. It looks like it is slowly fading away. > > > > Rick Novak > >