I have just found information on a MARY ORG/ORA who was the wife of a FREDERICK GUNDERMAN of Newton. They had a daughter, MARY, who married WILLIAM T. HOCKENBURY of Newton , June 11, 1842. MARY and WILLIAM moved to Michigan by 1860. I believe MARY HOCKENBURY also had brothers ED A., DANIEL, and a JOHN who married ELIZA DECKER and became a Baptist minister in Michigan after the Civil War. Has anyone out there been researching either of these names? Thanks, Sheryl GUNDERMAN Robinson

PRESS RELEASE Who: Orange County Genealogical Society Where: 1841 Historic Courthouse 101 Main Street Goshen, NY 10924 When: Saturday, November 4, 2000 Business Meeting 9:00 A.M. Program 10:30 A.M. To Whom It May Concern: The Orange County Genealogical Society will hold their next business meeting on Saturday, November 4, at 9:00 A. M. A program will follow the meeting at 10:30 A.M. NY/NJ BORDER FAMILIES, presented by Jennie Sweetman. This will be a valuable program for anyone with ancestors who lived in the border area of New York and New Jersey. Jennie Sweetman is a well-known and respected historian, specializing in the history of Sussex County. She has written a history of West Milford Township, has inventoried abandoned cemeteries, has compiled family information on early settlers in the county, and has given countless historical presentations to schools and organizations. Our research room will be open, following the program, from Noon to 4:00 P.M. You do not need to be a member to make use of the wide variety of information available in the research room. The meeting and program is free of charge and open to the public. If anyone has questions they may contact Marilyn Terry at 845-562-2749 or via e-mail at mvtgrterry@aol.com

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Trying to establish a relationship between a Jonas DAVIS/DAVIDS in 1809 First moon Twp., Beaver Co., PA to the early DAVIDS family of Sussex Co., NJ. This Jonas sold land in 1809 to Zachariah FIGLEY. Zachariah was born 1761 to Jacob Figley & Beletje Davids & died 1853 in Beaver Co., PA. Beletje did have a brother named Jonas born in 1745, however I don't know if this is the same man. Beletje & Jonas' parents were Salomon Davids, Jr & Lea D. Decker. Lea married 2nd in 1757 to Jan Van Vliet. I've only found 2 children for them. Anyone researching that family? Back to the Davis family....Has anyone traced them out of NJ to PA/OH? My John COURTRIGHT who also came to PA from Sussex Co., NJ at the same time, had a daughter-in-law named Ann Elizabeth DAVIS. She was the d/o a Joseph Davis. She married Milo COURTRIGHT 1847 in Jefferson Co., OH. She was born 1827 in the same Co. in Steubenville. This town in on the Ohio River. Milo & Ann moved to CA during the gold rush. Any help w/ this family appreciated. Cindy Cindy Torres Owens cindyo@va.prestige.net http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/o/w/e/Cindy-L-Owens/index.html

-----Original Message----- From: Jan Reuther <jlreuther@adelphia.net> To: NJWARREN <NJWARREN-L@rootsweb.com>; NJSUSSEX-L@rootsweb.com <NJSUSSEX-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, October 21, 2000 1:12 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} Warren County Marriage Index, Husband's surname beginning with A-C, 1825-1875 >Hi, Folks... > >I've added the above to my web site. It's full of gaps and missing pages, as well as entries I couldn't read, but I think many of you will still find entries to interest you. You can find it beginning at http://raub-and-more.com/warrenmarriages/warren1vol1.html. > >Jan Reuther >http://RAUB-and-more.com >

I am looking for the connection between John Isaac Williams and Jeremiah Williams. John Isaac Williams b. 1785; m. 1808 in Sussex Co, NJ Sarah Jane Hunt b. 1787 & d. 1864; c: Abram, Elizabeth m. Isaac Williams, Samuel, William b. 1811 NJ m. bef 1834 Elizabeth & m. Catherine Card d. 1877, John b. 1817 NJ m. 1839 in Sussex NJ Celetta Drew d. 1904 Sussex NJ, Isaac b. abt 1824. Jeremiah Williams b. 1787; d. 1867; m. Laura b. 1785 d, 1867; c: Adaline m. Thomas Mickens; Alpheus; Ann Eliza m. Battershalls; Edward; Jared; Russel b. 1817-1820 West Milford NJ. m. Phebe Decker, d. abt 1896 Greenville NY; George b.abt 1833. How do these fit? Watage, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 William Williams ae. 41, Ann ae. 35, Samuel ae. 5. Wantage, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860. Henry Williams ae. 35, Elizabeth ae. 20, Allis ae. 5, Josephene ae. 4, William H. ae. 2, S_____ ae. 3/12 F. Wantage, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 John P. Williams ae. 16 Montague, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 Jacob N. Williams ae. 30, Rebecca J. ae. 29, William ae. 10, Mercy ae. 9, Huldah ae. 7, Sarah ae. 6, Catherine ae. 3, John ae. 2. Montague, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 Theodore Williams ae. 29, Sarah J. ae. 42. Montague, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 Marcy Williams ae. 30 Sparta, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 John Williams ae. 35, Mary ae. 33, James ae. 10, Louisa ae. 6, Minnie M. ae. 7, Dianna ae. 2. Sparta, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 Thomas Williams ae. 26 Stillwater, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 William J. Williams ae. 57, Mary ae. 57 Newton, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 Mathew Williams ae. 28, Mary ae. 26, Sarah E. ae. 4, James R. ae. 7/12. Newton, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 Enos Williams ae. 30, Rachael A. ae. 28, Stephen M. ae. 7, May A. ae. 1. Newton, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 Saml Williams ae. 26, Mary ae. 22, Sarah ae. 12, Martin ae. 9, Permalia ae. 4. Newton, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 James Williams ae. 50, Mary ae. 65, Charles ae. 25. Sandyston, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 Henry Williams ae. 30, Julia ae. 28, Ellen ae. 6, John ae. 5, Charles ae. 2. Sandyston, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 John Williams ae. 46, Clara ae. 29, Margaret A. ae. 8, Wm H. ae. 4, Harrison ae. 3/12. Sandyston, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 Isaac Williams ae. 13 Frankford, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 Charlotte Williams ae. 53 Frankford, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 Andrew L. Williams ae. 50, Harriet ae. 44, Floyd E. ae. 22, Casterline ae. 16, Low J. ae. 13, Arabella ae.11, Ann M. ae. 8, Margaret ae. 5, Lauristine ae. 3. Frankford, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 Peter Williams ae. 55, Catherine ae. 54, Oakley B. ae. 23. Frankford, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 Sarah Williams ae. 45 Frankford, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 Samuel H. Williams ae. 45, Ann ae. 36, Sarah ae. 13, Gray ae. 10, Jemima ae. 3. Frankford, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 Margaret Williams ae. 19 Lafayette, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 Anna M. Williams ae. 9, Catherine ae. 7 Lafayette, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 Michael Williams ae. 23 Lafayette, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 Elmira Williams ae. 12 Vernon, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 Isaac Williams ae. 71, Hannah ae. 70 Newton, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 Soloman Williams ae. 31 Newton, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 John C. Williams ae. 44, Evaline ae. 44, Ezra C. ae. 10, Benjamin ae. 8, Ambrose ae. 6, Edward J. ae. 2. Newton, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 Eliza Williams ae. 21 Newton, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 John C. Williams ae. 28 Newton, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 Samuel C. Williams ae. 18 Newton, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 William R. Williams ae. 35, Jane ae. 32. Newton, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 Eliza Williams ae. 23 Newton, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 Lydia Williams ae. 17 Newton, Sussex, NJ - Census 1860 John Williams ae. 30, Mary ae. 30 5 West Paterson City, Passaic, NJ - Census 1860 James Williams ae. 37, _____ ae. 33 F, William ae. 19, Henry ae. 2 5 West Paterson City, Passaic, NJ - Census 1860 Jacob Williams ae. 37, Sarah ae. 27, George ae. 11, James ae. 8, Ida ae. 7. West W Paterson City, Passaic, NJ - Census 1860 Alpheus Williams ae. 52, Ann ae. 52, Caroline ae. 26, Richard ae. 23, Thaddeus ae. 18 West Milford, Passaic, NJ - Census 1860 Jeremiah Williams ae. 71, Laura ae. 71, George ae. 27, Euphrasia ae. 45, Matilda ae. 6, George ae. 6, Judson C. ae. 2, Georgianna ae. 1 West Milford, Passaic, NJ - Census 1860 Rusel C. Williams ae. 49, Phebe ae. 44, Jeremiah ae. 21, (J)ohabud ae. 20, Electa ae. 14, Jered ae. 10, Rusel Jr. ae. 7, Ella ae. 3. West Milford, Passaic, NJ - Census 1860 Jeremiah Williams ae. 40, Catharin ae. 37, Mary ae. 16, Milo ae. 7, Emma L. ae. 3. Wayne, Passaic, NJ - Census 1860 Samuel Williams ae. 33 Wayne, Passaic, NJ - Census 1860 Catherine Williams ae. 78 North W Paterson, Passaic, NJ - Census 1860 Ellison Williams ae. 21 5 West Paterson, Passaic, NJ - Census 1860 Henry Williams ae. 35, Mary ae. 27, Wm H ae. 4, Emma ae. 2, Infant ae. 4/12. East W Paterson, Passaic, NJ - Census 1860 John Williams ae. 50 East W Paterson, Passaic, NJ - Census 1860 Thomas Williams ae. 38?, Sarah ae. 43, Mary ae. 12. East W Paterson, Passaic, NJ - Census 1860 L. D. Williams ae. 35 East W Paterson, Passaic, NJ - Census 1860 Sidney Williams ae. 10 East W Paterson, Passaic, NJ - Census 1860 Mary Williams ae. 22 Carol Van Buren

I am looking for Flood and Riggs from Sussex County, NJ. Any help would be appreciated. Michael Flood b. 1868; m. abt 1886 Evaline Riggs b. 1863; c: Mary, Michael d. bef 1940, Edward b. 1886, Maud b. 1888 m. Utter, Frank b. 1890 Vernon NJ m. Myrtle Newkirk d. 1972, Mabel b. 1892, James b. 1894, George b. 1895, Raymond b. abt 1902 d. 1940 Newfoundland NJ. How does this fit? Vernon Township, Sussex County, NJ 1850 Census: Matthew Flood ae. 33 b. Ireland, Alice ae. 30 b. Ireland, Bridget ae. 3 b. NJ, Matthew ae. 1 b. NJ. Byram Township, Sussex County, NJ 1870 Census: Owen Flood ae. 45 b. Ireland, Mary ae. 30 b. Ireland, William ae. 18 b. NJ, Sarah ae. 13 b. NJ, John ae. 12 b. NJ, Maggie ae. 10 b. NJ, James ae. 8 b. NJ. Hardyston Township, Sussex County, NJ 1870 Census: Edward Flood ae. 27, _____ ae. 23 F, _____ ae. 4 M, _____ ae. 2 M Hardyston Township, Sussex County, NJ 1870 Census: Matthew Flood ae. 27, _____ ae. 26 F Carol Van Buren

I am new to the list and am looking for DUGGAN/DUGAN my ancester Cornelius DUGGAN served in the New Jersey Volunteers I am told looking for where I might find information or where to look up about his time in the US and where he came from. He was given a Land Patent as a Loyalist in Canada in 1795. Would like to find any other information on him or his siblings. This has been a new discovery for me and don't know which way to proceed for more information. Thank you, Joan Hedberg British Columbia, Canada

From 100yrs of the Sussex Register & County of Sussex. A very interesting book with lots of "neat" items of interest for genealogists. The Register Book p 95 left col. entry 10 Newton Athletic Club President.............. Henry T. Kay Vice President...... William H. Nicholls Secretary............. Herbert Bentley < part of my tree Treasurer............. Floyd C. Devore Executive Comm.. Thomas W. Bentley < part of my tree .. J. W. C. Carker .. George L. Dutcher .. Nathan H. Hart .. Lewis S. Iliff pg 95 right col. entry 3 Sussex County Automobile Club President............. Thomas W. Bentley Vice Presidents... E. Merriam Dutcher ... Reeve Hardin ... Ford Margarum Secretary............ E. A. Shay Treasurer........... Edwin M. Quick. See If your local library has a copy of this book some of the stories have pictures of the early businesses of Newton as well as a very early map of the town. Keith W Brown Indianapolis, IN http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/r/o/Keith-W-Brown

Oct 10, 1785 page 20 Elizabeth CORTREGHT sold for 100# to Samuel CORTRIGHT, the farm now occupied by Samuel Cortright & Petrus Cortright. Land purchased in 1753 by Elizabeth from Richard GARDEN. Land borders William ENNES. Abraham WESTFALL, Cornelius WESTFALL wit. Dec. 23, 1788 page 269 Roger CLARK of Montague to Jasper TALOR & Peter Worst. BRINK, for 300# for part of the Minisink Island. Land borders: Hendrick Janse & Ann CORTRIGHT, Johannes WESTBROOK, Anthony WESTBROOK, Jane CORTRIGHT, Aaron CORTRIGHT. Sanford CLARK wit. June 16, 1790 page 394 Jan CORTREGHT of Minisink, Hunterdon co., NJ, wheelwright, to Hendrick Janse CORTREGHT, yeoman. Part of the island of Minisink. Land borders : Matthewes KUYKENDALL, Anthony WESTBROOK, Joseph WESTBROOK. William ENNES wit. 1791 page 408 Roger & Amy CLARK to Julius FOSTER, land borders Abraham SHIMER, Cornelius BRINK. 1791 page 44 Simeon WESTFALL of Orange Co., NY & Abraham WESTFALL of Ulster Co., NY to William NEARPASS of Montague. Henry BENNET wit. Aug 14, 1787 page 422 Henry W. & Catherine CORTRIGHT of Montague, to Daniel ENNES also of Montague, 100# for land in Minisink . Joseph WESTBROOK wit.

Sharon, This was the message that started the multile baptism thread. I thought I sent this to this list as well as the Dutch Colonies list, guess I didn't. I rec'd quite a few interesting responses, even a case of quadruplets! Cindy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Owens" <cindyo@va.prestige.net> To: <Dutch-Colonies-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 5:46 PM Subject: Triplets in 1749? > May 7, 1749 Andries Decker & Dievertje Maul had 3 children baptized : > Casparus Fryenmoet, Johannes & Petrus. There were 3 sets of witnesses: JC > Fryenmout & Magdalena Van Etten his wife, Johannes Decker & Lisabeth DeWitt > his wife, & Pieter Gemaer & Tjaetje de Witt his wife. > > Spellings are as found in the New York Genealogical & Biographical Society, > Minisink Valley Reformed Dutch Church Records, 1716-1830, (1913, Heritage > Books, 1992 reprint). Does anyone know if these are indeed triplets? Did > they survive? Are there any other record of triplets or higher mutilple > births in early NY? As a Maternal Child RN you know how I love this & > related topics. :>) Cindy >

This is somewhat off the subject of twins and triplets/multiple baptisms and I just wanted to mention it as a sidebar. In the early days when travelling ministers might only complete his circuit once or twice a year, practacalities of the day sometimes dictated that engaged couples set up housekeeping before the marriage ceremony. When the minister arrived, there would be a 'group' wedding ceremony where several couples would officially tie the knot. Baptisms/Christenings would also be done. Joan Wilton

I think baptisms were a community affair. Similar to family members bathing on the same day with one tub of water. Some questions to consider include... Did the church practice sprinkling or immersion? Were baptisms performed outside? Would the service be scheduled according to weather? farm work? flood levels? Would the service be delayed because of communicable illness in the community? What size area did the reverend serve? I searched for information on baptism history but couldn't find anything, maybe someone knows a source that could help. I only received this email for some reason have missed the rest of the conversation. Could someone forward other messages? Sharon Rhodes

Received this from another NY list. Very interesting & informative. Cindy ----- Original Message ----- To: <NYTRISTATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 7:22 AM Subject: [NYtristate] Historical Greater NYC Article > > Harry Macy's article with maps "Before the Five-Borough City: The Old > Cities, Towns and Villages that Came Together to Form 'Greater New York'" > has been posted to the NYG&B web site at > > http://www.nygbs.org/info/articles/five_boroughs.html

Thanks to all who responded. What great stories! However it brought up another question. We know not all multiple baptisms were of twins, triplets, etc. It's hard to tell when the birthdates are not listed. What is particularly puzzling to me is when a couple has 2 children bpatized just several months apart. I doubt they were twins or they would have been baptized together, but then you can't rule it out. Pat suggested this "They were all single children but the parents for whatever reason did not get around to getting them baptized as infants. It could have been because they were waiting for a traveling preacher or maybe waiting until the sponsers could all be there." This is a crucial theory in my hunt for John Courtright. It seems that family groups would all show up abt the same time to have their children baptized. Now it's possible that all the women gave birth at the same time, but not likely . So it seems to me that folks would wait for certian family members to all be together & then they'd all go to the church together for the baptisms. Sometimes they followed the naming patterns but sometimes that went out the window, seems to have depended more on who was the sponsor. And then we have the numerous baptisms w/ no sponsors listed. Does this mean there were no sponsors or were they just not listed? If a family group showed up I suppose they could all sponsor each other & maybe the Minister didn't feel the need to list them all? As most of you know I'm trying to make a case for John Cortright & Sussana Kittle's son Johannes bap. Nov. 1, 1780 to be my John , who would have been 3-5 years old. Anyone have any thoughts on all this? Thanks, Cindy

Hello Everyone, I just came across this page and thought it may be of interest to some of you... http://www.50states.com/newjerse.htm As always I hope this helps in your research, ---Mark http://home.att.net/~mforder (Late 1800's NJ papers)

Thank you Carol & Margaret. I thought that Jan was his grandfather or father but wasn't sure. I also noted that Jacob Van Etten & Antjen Westbrook were sponsors for the bap. of Antje Jan 14, 1753, the d/o Anthony VA & Annatje Decker. I'm still trying to sort out all these tangled connections. Still haven't found hard proof that my John Cortright is part of all this. Spent all afternoon looking at 3 rolls of microfilmed Sussex Co land deeds, only to find nothing of use in my search. I suspect that my John was the s/o either John Cortright & Susanna Kittle or his brother Samuel Cortright & Margaret Westfall. Cindy

Anthony Van Etten m. Antje Decker was a grandson of Jan Van Etten m. Jannetje Roosa. Carol Van Buren

> Can anyone tell me the connection between Jan Van Etten, husband of Jannetje > Roosa and Anthony Van Etten, husband of Antje Decker ? Also were all of > Jan's children baptized at the Kingston DRC? Thank you, Cindy > Jan is Anthony's grandfather. Anthony's parents are Jacob Van Etten and Antjen Westbroek. Anthony's baptism is recorded at Kingston Dutch Reformed Church (Baptismal Record #3480) 12 Jun 1726, . Sponsors were Anthony Westbroek and Aaltjen Van Etten. Aeltje Van Etten is Jacob's sister and Anthony Westbroek is her husband. At least, I think so.

Can anyone tell me the connection between Jan Van Etten, husband of Jannetje Roosa and Anthony Van Etten, husband of Antje Decker ? Also were all of Jan's children baptized at the Kingston DRC? Thank you, Cindy 1 Jan Van Etten b: 1666 Kingston, Ulster Co.,NY d: Aft. 1699 Ulster Co.,NY .. +Jannetje Roosa b: 1676 Ulster Co.,NY m: 1690 Hurley, Ulster Co.,NY d: 1731 Ulster Co.,NY Father: Arien ROOSA Mother: Maria PELS 2 Jacob Van Etten b: 1696 Ulster Co.,NY d: 1779 Sussex Co.,NJ .... +Antjen Westbrook b: 1700 d/o Johannes W. & Magdalena Decker m: 1719 NY or NJ 2 Marytjen Van Etten b: Jan 8, 1698/99 Hurley, Ulster Co.,NY d: Abt. 1752 Smithfield, Monroe Co.,PA .... +Cornelis Ennes b: 1698 Ulster Co.,NY m: Oct 9, 1719 Kingston, Ulster Co., NY d: 1725 or 1728 *2nd Husband of Marytjen Van Etten: .... +Johannes Bosch b: Bef. Sep 27, 1691 bap. date Ulster Co.,NY m: Apr 21, 1728 Kingston, Ulster Co., NY d: s/o Johannes Bosch & Lysbeth Hendricksen 2 Rachel Van Etten b: Jun 20, 1708 .... +Richard Kittel b: 1697 Marbletown, Ulster co., NY m: Dec 23, 1723 ************ 1 Anthony Van Etten .. +Antje Decker b: 1730 NY Father: Thomas DECKER Mother: Janneken VAN IWEGEN 2 Thomas Van Etten b: 1751 Minisink Valley Baptism: Sep 8, 1751 Machackemack, Orange Co., NY d: 1752 Minisink Valley 2 Antje Van Etten b: 1753 Minisink Valley Baptism: Jan 14, 1753 Machackemack, Orange Co., NY .... +Moses Cortright b: 1745 Orange Co., NY d: Jun 26, 1824 Owasco, Cayuga Co., NY Father: Hendrick KORTRIGHT Mother: Margriet DECKER 2 Jannetje Van Etten b: 1754 Minisink Valley Baptism: Apr 28, 1754 Machackemack, Orange Co., NY 2 Margaret Van Etten b: 1756 Minisink Valley Baptism: Feb 13, 1756 Machackemack, Orange Co., NY 2 Levi Van Etten b: Jul 12, 1757 Minisink Valley Baptism: Feb 12, 1758 Machackemack, Orange Co., NY 2 Alida Van Etten b: 1759 Minisink Valley Baptism: Aug 19, 1759 Machackemack, Orange Co., NY 2 Blandina Van Etten b: Feb 14, 1763 Orange Co., NY Baptism: Sep 4, 1763 Machackemack, Orange Co., NY d: Aft. 1840 Washington Twp., Columbiana co., OH .... +Abraham Westfall b: Nov 18, 1755 Orange Co., NY m: Feb 2, 1781 Orange Co.,NY d: Sep 5, 1829 Carroll Co., OH Father: Petrus WESTFALL Mother: Arreantie ROSENKRANS 2 Anthony Van Etten b: Abt. 1765 2 Thomas Van Etten b: Oct 16, 1768 2 Jacob Van Etten b: Oct 29, 1770 ************ Cindy Torres Owens cindyo@va.prestige.net http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/o/w/e/Cindy-L-Owens/index.html