Linda - Thanks for inserting the correction! Heaven knows we all try to be as accurate as possible with this stuff, so, since it's not my line at all, your correction is most welcome! As you all know by now, I can access this book, so, if anyone wants anything looked up in it, just ask! Take care - Deb >From: "Cox SMTP west" <[email protected]> >To: "Deborah Johnson" <[email protected]>,<[email protected]> >Subject: Passage from History of Fenwick's Coloney >Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 20:18:08 -0700 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from fed1mtao08.cox.net ([68.6.19.123]) by >mc3-f26.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Tue, 8 Jul >2003 20:20:30 -0700 >Received: from limcd ([68.5.167.249]) by fed1mtao08.cox.net >(InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP >id <[email protected]>; Tue, 8 Jul >2003 23:20:21 -0400 >X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jEHjJx36Oi8+Q1OJDRSDidP >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >References: <[email protected]> >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 >Return-Path: [email protected] >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jul 2003 03:20:31.0262 (UTC) >FILETIME=[0D6EE3E0:01C345C9] > >Hi Deborah and list, > >Thanks for the answer and the post from Fenwick's Colony. (I am Linda >McDowell, not the person asking the original question. ) One small >correction on the passage from Fenwick's Colony: The researchers of this >branch of the FIRTH family believe there is an error as to who was the >mother of Henry Stubbins FIRTH and his brother John Firth (mentioned late >in the article). I have inserted my corrections between the lines (------) >below. > >One source as to the parents of Henry Stubbins Firth and his brother John >is "Samuel Carpenter & his Descendants", pg 56, by Edward Carpenter and >Louis Henry Carpenter, Lippincott, Philadelphia, 1912. > > >From: "Deborah Johnson" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:46 AM >Subject: Re: Methodist Church > > > > Linda - > > > > First United Methodist Church > > Walnut > > Salem, NJ 08079 > > Phone:(856)935-0856 > > > > I thought you might find this interesting, if you don't have it, it >comes > > from the History and Genealogy of Fenwick's Colony: pages 450-451 > > > > Henry Firth, one of the first Methodists in this county, was of a Quaker > > parentage. His great ancestor, John Firth, settled in the neighborhood >of > > Salem as early as 1707, and had several children. Henry Firth's mother >was >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >JUDITH VICKERY (1718-1780) daughter of EDWARD VICKERY. > >HENRY STUBBINS FIRTH's GRANDMOTHER WAS SARAH SMART. SARAH >WAS MARRIED 3 TIMES > (1) Samuel Stubbins > 2 children: Elizabeth b. abt. 1710, Henry b. abt 1712 > (2) John Firth, 1st in 1715 > 1 son: John Firth,2nd b. July 1718 > (3) Edward Vickery, marriage reported to Friend's Meeting of >Salem July 24, 1722 > 2 daughters: Rebecca and Hannah >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Samuel Stubbins, he having but one son, Henry Stubbins, who > > inherited his father's estate in Elsinborough, and married, in 1737, >Rebecca > > Daniels, daughter of James Daniels, Sr. They had no issue, and Henry > > Stubbins Firth became the adopted son of his uncle, and eventually the > > owner, by will, of all the real estate that belonged to Henry Stubbins, >in > > the township of Elsinborough. His wife was Sarah, the daughter of >Charles > > and Sarah Bassett Fogg, of Alloways Creek. Henry subsequently purchased >the > > Preston Carpenter property in Mannington, and perhaps that purchase, > > together with his liberality to the new religious sect, was the primary > > cause of his eventually losing his estate, and becoming unable to pay >his > > just debts. John Wistar, whose heart was always filled with the milk of > > human kindness, with a few other friends, interceded for Henry and his >wife, > > and succeeded in having a tenant house and about ten or twelve acres of > > ground attached, set apart for them to occupy whilst they lived. Henry >soon > > after was appointed one of the Justices of the Peace of Salem county, he > > being well calculated for the office. He had a large patronage, and he >and > > his wife lived comparatively comfortable to old age. They had three > > children--Stubbins, Ezra and Clara Firth >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Note: also Letitia and Charlotte. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > These children were greatly > > assisted in school education by those persons that took an interest in >them. > > John Wistar soon discovered that the eldest son, Stubbins, possessed >more > > than common abilities, and he accordingly gave him a liberal education >at > > his own expense. The celebrated Dr. Casper Wistar, of Philadelphia, by >the > > solicitations of his brother John, gave him studies, and soon after he > > graduated he removed to Charleston, South Carolina, where, in a short >time, > > he had an extensive practice, and married a young lady of wealth, >belonging > > to the old aristocratic families of that city. Stubbins died when he was > > about middle aged, without issue. John Firth, a younger brother of >Henry, > > also left the religious sect of which he was born a member, and became a > > member of the Methodist Church. He married in 1793, Margaret Taber >Sparks, > > of the county of Gloucester, in which place I think he resided mostly >the > > remainder of his life. He was the author of the life of Benjamin Abbott. > > > > Take care - > > Deb > > > > > > > >From: [email protected] > > >To: [email protected] > > >Subject: Methodist Church > > >Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:08:48 EDT > > >> > > > >Does anyone on the list know if the Methodist Church built on Walnut St > > >around 1784 is still there? I recently found out that one of my >ancestors > > >(Henry > > >Stubbins Firth) was instrumental in building that church and my dad and >I > > >would > > >like to visit Salem and see it if it's still standing. > > >Thanks, > > >Linda Firth Layton _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. 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Hi, all. I was at an antique shop near my home in Gloucester Co., looking for old photos with names on them. In my travels, I saw a large, velvet-covered Victorian photo album with the typical square/diamond beveled-edge mirror in the center of the cover. While I could not very well go taking the pics out to look at the backs, the tag says that it contains mainly Salem/Woodstown area pics. The same tag lists the price at $95. No idea if there are actually names on the backs of any, or if the seller even looked. Same seller had a stack of old photos, (only two of which had legible names) and a huge old Kimbel/Kimble family bible priced at $55. I could not get anyone to open the case to check the bible for names, but the tag said it spanned the 19th and 20th centuries (last entry about 1960). If anyone wants to check this out for themselves, drop me a line and I'll give you the name of the store, directions if necessary and I'll try to explain where to find these items once you're there. The place is huge - three floors of multi-dealer space. I never finished the first floor and still managed to spend my found-photo budget. : ) If anyone is interested, the photos I picked up that were taken in Woodstown were of the BORTON, WILKINSON and MITCHELL families. (I do not profit from "rehoming" these photos - I just try to put them back in the hands of family, at cost. I do ask that the person who claims a photo pay the shipping charges, though.) Cheers- summer