Dolores, I read your message wtih much interest since I live in Pittsgrove Twp. and am fairly familiar with the area. I checked the maps that I have and found that Reed or Reeds Branch starts above Garrison lake and feeds it and another smaller lake, Idle Acres Lake, which is in Franklin Twp., just a short distance north of Iona Lake. Still Run starts as several small streams in Elk Twp., near Glassboro, and flows south into Silver Lake at Clayton. It leaves Silver Lake and flows south until it meets Reeds Branch, between Idle Acres Lake and Iona Lake. It continues south as Still Run and feeds Iona Lake, goes under Rt. 40 and continues to Willow Grove Lake. Still Run enters on the north west side of Willow Grove Lake and another stream, Scotland Run enters on the north east side of the lake. Still Run and Scotland Run end at Willow Grove Lake. All waters leaving Willow Grove Lake are known as the Maurice River which eventually empties into the Delaware Bay. If this dam was supposed to be on Still Run in Franklin Twp. I would say that it would be Iona Lake. Willow Grove would be a possibility if at one time it was a part of Franklin Twp ... but I think that's a long shot. There were a lot of Methodists that settled the area and they are known for damming creeks and erecting mills. There are Methodist churches near both lakes ... not sure if there is one near Idle Acres Lake ... I might have to take a ride up there and find out. Good luck with your research. Hope this helps, Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: <DelawareDolores@delaware.Net> To: <NJSALEM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 3:03 PM Subject: [NJSALEM] Still Run loca.,R. Langley's dam > An old, typewritten booklet published by the Gloucester County Historical > Society, contains a place-names directory that includes a "Reuben's Dam." > It says this dam was somewhere on Still Run in Franklin Twp., and was named > for Reuben Langley, who had a pond and mill there. > > Franklin Twp.'s historical society guru (working part-time, in the Twp. > library) says there was at least one border change at some point. This may > mean we have to look at both Gloucester and Salem Counties, up and down Still > Run, to guess where Reuben's Dam might have been. > > One Langley parcel straddled the Gloucester-Salem border at the Porchtown > Road/Malaga Rd. (route 40) intersection. Many folks from that neighborhood > (called Langley Corner) are buried at Porchtown (Zion) Methodist cem., only > a few hundred yards away. > > One Reuben Langley (1805-89) was among the 5 founders and builders of that > church, while an earlier Rubin/Ruben/Reubin, who died in 1803, was (in my > opinion) his grandfather. The place names directory gave no dates for > Reuben's Dam, but surely it was named for one of these Reubens. > > A source I can't quote precisely (probably either Betty B____ or Nina Mae > Wick)indicated that Langleys owned several mills from Malaga down to Millville. > It is clear that George B. Langley (died 1918) first owned a Willow Grove Mill > (with his father, Rev. Richard Langley 1815-89) then both later operated > Millville's Langley Mill on R.D. Wood land. But, I have yet to establish > any Langley mill ownership before Richard. > > Rev. Richard was both of Willow Grove and Millville. His father was John > (1778-1837?) who is bd. at WG, and the first son of whom I call first-Reuben. > > However, I don't know if John operated any Mill on Still Run or elsewhere; > or did generations before him. Therefore the questions now eats at me, as to > whether first-Reuben may actually have started the connected mills. > > Second-Reuben (first-Reuben's grandson, of Porchtown) is called a farmer in > the Census,as was his father William. The mill interests seem to have passed > through first-Reuben's oldest son John, then RevRich, then George B. of > Millville. > > One part of Still Run links Iona Lake with Willow Grove Lake, crossing under > the Route 40 (Malaga Road) Langley stompin' grounds. It continues north into > Reed Branch, then into Garrison Lake (at Buck Road) and parallels the new > Route 55 until it crosses under it, SW of Clayton. It continues into Silver > Lake, then ends NW, across Aura Road. > > By modern maps, Still Run appears to end SW of Willow Grove Lake, > right at the Cumberland County line. So, this means one of a handful of lakes > may have been the original location of Reuben's Dam. Anyone know for sure? > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Hi Joe!!!!!!!!!!!!! This sounds interesting. Robin ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Klaudi<mailto:jwklaudi@comcast.net> To: NJSALEM-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:NJSALEM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [NJSALEM] Still Run loca.,R. Langley's dam Dolores, I read your message wtih much interest since I live in Pittsgrove Twp. and am fairly familiar with the area. I checked the maps that I have and found that Reed or Reeds Branch starts above Garrison lake and feeds it and another smaller lake, Idle Acres Lake, which is in Franklin Twp., just a short distance north of Iona Lake. Still Run starts as several small streams in Elk Twp., near Glassboro, and flows south into Silver Lake at Clayton. It leaves Silver Lake and flows south until it meets Reeds Branch, between Idle Acres Lake and Iona Lake. It continues south as Still Run and feeds Iona Lake, goes under Rt. 40 and continues to Willow Grove Lake. Still Run enters on the north west side of Willow Grove Lake and another stream, Scotland Run enters on the north east side of the lake. Still Run and Scotland Run end at Willow Grove Lake. All waters leaving Willow Grove Lake are known as the Maurice River which eventually empties into the Delaware Bay. If this dam was supposed to be on Still Run in Franklin Twp. I would say that it would be Iona Lake. Willow Grove would be a possibility if at one time it was a part of Franklin Twp ... but I think that's a long shot. There were a lot of Methodists that settled the area and they are known for damming creeks and erecting mills. There are Methodist churches near both lakes ... not sure if there is one near Idle Acres Lake ... I might have to take a ride up there and find out. Good luck with your research. Hope this helps, Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: <DelawareDolores@delaware.Net<mailto:DelawareDolores@delaware.Net>> To: <NJSALEM-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:NJSALEM-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 3:03 PM Subject: [NJSALEM] Still Run loca.,R. Langley's dam > An old, typewritten booklet published by the Gloucester County Historical > Society, contains a place-names directory that includes a "Reuben's Dam." > It says this dam was somewhere on Still Run in Franklin Twp., and was named > for Reuben Langley, who had a pond and mill there. > > Franklin Twp.'s historical society guru (working part-time, in the Twp. > library) says there was at least one border change at some point. This may > mean we have to look at both Gloucester and Salem Counties, up and down Still > Run, to guess where Reuben's Dam might have been. > > One Langley parcel straddled the Gloucester-Salem border at the Porchtown > Road/Malaga Rd (route 40) intersection. Many folks from that neighborhood > (called Langley Corner) are buried at Porchtown (Zion) Methodist cem., only > a few hundred yards away. > > One Reuben Langley (1805-89) was among the 5 founders and builders of that > church, while an earlier Rubin/Ruben/Reubin, who died in 1803, was (in my > opinion) his grandfather. The place names directory gave no dates for > Reuben's Dam, but surely it was named for one of these Reubens. > > A source I can't quote precisely (probably either Betty B____ or Nina Mae > Wick)indicated that Langleys owned several mills from Malaga down to Millville. > It is clear that George B. Langley (died 1918) first owned a Willow Grove Mill > (with his father, Rev. Richard Langley 1815-89) then both later operated > Millville's Langley Mill on R.D. Wood land. But, I have yet to establish > any Langley mill ownership before Richard. > > Rev. Richard was both of Willow Grove and Millville. His father was John > (1778-1837?) who is bd. at WG, and the first son of whom I call first-Reuben. > > However, I don't know if John operated any Mill on Still Run or elsewhere; > or did generations before him. Therefore the questions now eats at me, as to > whether first-Reuben may actually have started the connected mills. > > Second-Reuben (first-Reuben's grandson, of Porchtown) is called a farmer in > the Census,as was his father William. The mill interests seem to have passed > through first-Reuben's oldest son John, then RevRich, then George B of > Millville. > > One part of Still Run links Iona Lake with Willow Grove Lake, crossing under > the Route 40 (Malaga Road) Langley stompin' grounds. It continues north into > Reed Branch, then into Garrison Lake (at Buck Road) and parallels the new > Route 55 until it crosses under it, SW of Clayton. It continues into Silver > Lake, then ends NW, across Aura Road. > > By modern maps, Still Run appears to end SW of Willow Grove Lake, > right at the Cumberland County line. So, this means one of a handful of lakes > may have been the original location of Reuben's Dam. Anyone know for sure? > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx> > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJSALEM-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NJSALEM-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Robin, Dolores requested that I post it to the list .... she thinks she may have put it aside and forgot about back in July when I sent her the reply to her posting. She said that she might post an update on it in the near future, so stay tuned. BTW, I had the echo-dopler and stress test and the Cardiologist said that he saw nothing disturbing in the results. There are no blockages and he didn't mention any special diet .... just stay away from fatty foods. He's just treating me for elevated cholesterol levels. I'm now on samples of Lipitor that he gave me but that might be changing .... my insurance requires preapproval of Lipitor and it's kind of pricey.I'm waiting for his call to see what he decides to do. Keep in touch, Joe

Dear Joe, Lipitor works very well. Best of health, Renata (p.s.- I don't know how I got your mail ),but I am glad that you got a good report. By the way to lower your Cholesterol naturally- use lots of fiber- fresh fruits & vegies ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Klaudi" <jwklaudi@comcast.net> To: <njsalem@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [NJSALEM] Still Run loca.,R. Langley's dam > Robin, > Dolores requested that I post it to the list .... she thinks she may > have put it aside and forgot about back in July when I sent her the reply > to > her posting. She said that she might post an update on it in the near > future, so stay tuned. > BTW, I had the echo-dopler and stress test and the Cardiologist said > that he saw nothing disturbing in the results. There are no blockages and > he > didn't mention any special diet .... just stay away from fatty foods. He's > just treating me for elevated cholesterol levels. I'm now on samples of > Lipitor that he gave me but that might be changing .... my insurance > requires preapproval of Lipitor and it's kind of pricey.I'm waiting for > his > call to see what he decides to do. > > Keep in touch, > Joe > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJSALEM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >