This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ZEITZ, KLIGGE, LANGE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/oRB.2ACI/678 Message Board Post: Looking for information on the family of Frederick and Louisa (KLIGGE) ZEITZ living in Pittsgrove, Salem County NJ in the 1880 Federal Census. Chidren Kate (14), Henry (11), Herman (8) and Caroline (5) all born in PA. Two older children born in Philadelphia are not listed with the family in the census - Anna Catharine ZEITZ born 2-1-1862 and Frederick William ZEITZ born 10-25-1864. Louisa KLIGGE ZEITZ is the older sister of my gg grandmother, Caroline KLIGGE LANGE.

I have received information that the death date for an Ann Firth is May 3, 1839. She leaves items to her daughters Hannah H. Reynolds and Elizabeth Firth and she leaves money to daus. Hannah, Elizabeth, and sons Thomas, John, and Samuel. Because I already have information that Hannah Hedge FIRTH, dau of John Firth and Ann Thompson married Joel Z. Reynolds I believe Ann Thompson is the one who wrote the will. The other heirs are correct for Ann Thompson. The source is Salem County Wills, 1831-1860 abstracted by H. Stanley Craig. pg. 49. On the GCHS death database there is an Ann Firth who died May 1, 1842 age 70 years. I am trying to find out if this is the same Ann--maybe the 1839 date is the date the will was made. If one of you has access to Craig's book I would appreciate a lookup. Many Thanks, Linda McDowell in California

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/oRB.2ACI/677 Message Board Post: I'm looking for Edward George Hearn, Jr, and John Vincent Hearne....born to Edward George Hearne Sr. Both brothers are in their mid to late 30's as of 2003. please contact me or have them contact me asap it is very important. 201-521-9742

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/oRB.2ACI/592.2 Message Board Post: Correction to my last posting....Lewis Weber Green was born on Dec 20, 1853, not Dec 15, 1853.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Green, Latchum, Somers Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/oRB.2ACI/592.1 Message Board Post: Kathy, I descend from Harry Green, who was the son of Samuel F. Green and his second wife Elizabeth Wright. I have some information about Martin's background from a history that a descendent of Anthony and Ann Somers wrote down many years ago. I am right now trying to substantiate the information. I also have more details on the family since Martin. I know that Anthony died on Dec 4, 1845 in Pedricktown, NJ. Samuel F. Green, born April 13, 1831 first married Charlotte Lampson, daughter of Merrick and Abegail Lampson on December 24, 1852 in Philadelphia, PA. They were both residing in Halltown, Mannington Township, Salem County, NJ. I have a copy of the marriage record showing Anthony and Merrick as the dads. I find Samuel Green in 1850 on the census living will a family by the name of Elwell as a farm hand. After Samuel married Charlotte, they had thier first son, Lewis Weber Green born Dec 15, 1853 in Wilmington, Deleware. Thier second child was Anna born in 1856 in New Jersey. Thier third child was born on Sep 2, 1858 and his name was Robert S. Charlotte Lampson Green died in April of 1859 and is buried in the Baltimore Cemetary. Family members said that she died from complications of Robert's childbirth. The family had been living on a farm right next to a cousin of Elizabeth Wright and thats how he met his second wife. Samuel married Elizabeth on Dec 27, 1859 they had 13 children. Sometime in the 1860's they decided to move to Charles County Maryland.(the family story had been that they lived on a plantation in Prince George's County Maryland, close but no dice.) I found them living in a place called Harris Lot, Charles County on the 1870 Census. In 1871 they moved to Dayton, Ohio settling on the Huffman Prairie, near the spot where the Wright Brothers built thier first airplane hanger. Samuel's mother Sarah was also in Dayton and died there on October 14, 1871 and is buried in Woodland Cemetary there. One of Samuel and Elizabeth's children died about the same time and is buried in the same plot. Family members say that Samuel F Green was proud of his Virginia heritage. I am not sure if it was mother or fathers side. I am very curious...where did you find the birthdate of Anthony? The reason I ask is that there is a record of Martin and his children entering the quaker religion in 1798 at Pilesgrove Meetinghouse for the first time. There is a record that Mary Green transferred from another meetinghouse in 1796. That dog dont hunt because she couldnt have been married to a non quaker and still been one. One angle I am trying to work with are the quaker records because I think he was from a quaker family. I would like to chat with you further about how positively frustrating it is dealing with New Jersey Records and what the next step might be to confirming some of the information that has been written down over the years. Please send me an email at [email protected] so we can chat about this! I am willing to share whatever I have along with thoughts and theories. I am interested to hear about what all you may know or have heard through the family. Thanks, Mark Meinshatt

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Robart, English Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/oRB.2ACI/676 Message Board Post: Looking for information on families of my 3rd great grandparents, John Robart and Amelia "Milly", English, I believeI believe, as first son was James English Robart. They moved from Salem Co. to Cape May Co. ca 1798. Vincent, brother of John moved there also. Vincent sold a farm near Friendship moving to Cape May Co. also. They were apparently the sons of John, Sr. as they were in the Militia census. John lived in Dennis Twp. Vincent in Upper Twp.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Taylor.Williams Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/oRB.2ACI/675.1 Message Board Post: Wow...that could be a new clue for me.I never noticed that.Wonder if it has anything to Indian lines around southern Jersey.Also wonder if that bleeds over into Cumberland and Cape May Countys? Thanks Juanita

Hi Deb, I was looking more towards 1600-1700s migration from descendants of the first English colony of settlers which landed at Roanoke Island in 1587, after explorers for Sir Walter Raleigh landed on the Outer Banks of NC in 1584. This first English settlement in our country was 35 yrs. before the Mayflower reached the coast of Massachusetts. This settlement was in what is now NC but was all called Virginia centuries ago. Thanks, Joan In a message dated 5/15/03 12:01:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > My grandmother's line of SMITH comes from Shenandoah, Page County VA, as > I've traced her lines, they come from Page, Rockingham, Albermarle and > Green > Counties VA, since you mention several families moving up from VA to NJ, I > thought I would let you know that my grandmother's parents settled in > Pennsville, Salem County, NJ, in the early 1930's because my great > grandfather took a better job at the DuPont plant in NJ. Perhaps that is > the connection? > > > Take care - > Deb > > > > >From: [email protected] >

I would also like to know this answer as I have always thought there might be a very early connection for my LACYs/LACEYs in Salem/Gloucester Co. NJ to Virginia or from VA. to NJ. Thanks, Joan In a message dated 5/15/03 11:34:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I have been digging into my wife's family. And I noticed a strange > connection. It seems many of the family's who live in Salem County, New > Jersey (Which is where we live and once was refered to as Upper and Lower > Penn's Neck) come from Accomack County, VA. In particular the islands. > > Her family contains Tarr's, Scott's, and Cugler's which have all moved to > Jersey > > She has a cousin here, with the last name Bell, which also stems from > Chincoteague. > > I have also noticed many simular names when digging through the 1900 > Census: Such as Trader, Hewitt, Flitcraft, and Fletcher. At least 2 or 3 > friends of mine can trace there roots to Accomack County. A very strange > coincedence. I was wondering if anyone knows a historical connection > between the 2 areas. > > >

That's interesting, because when my grandfather and his family came to Pennsville, NJ on December 23, 1936, it was due to a job transfer with DuPont, because the South Milwaukee Plant was closing. Is it possible there was a DuPont Plant in that area in Virginia that closed down, and they transferred a number of folks to the Deepwater Plant? Or perhaps the Deepwater Plant was opening, and they transferred a number of experienced workers there from Virginia. Just a possibility. - Hereld Stuart -----Original Message----- From: Deborah Johnson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 9:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Does anyone know the connection............ My grandmother's line of SMITH comes from Shenandoah, Page County VA, as I've traced her lines, they come from Page, Rockingham, Albermarle and Green Counties VA, since you mention several families moving up from VA to NJ, I thought I would let you know that my grandmother's parents settled in Pennsville, Salem County, NJ, in the early 1930's because my great grandfather took a better job at the DuPont plant in NJ. Perhaps that is the connection? Take care - Deb > >Message Board Post: > >I have been digging into my wife's family. And I noticed a strange >connection. It seems many of the family's who live in Salem County, New >Jersey (Which is where we live and once was refered to as Upper and Lower >Penn's Neck) come from Accomack County, VA. In particular the islands. > >Her family contains Tarr's, Scott's, and Cugler's which have all moved to >Jersey > >She has a cousin here, with the last name Bell, which also stems from >Chincoteague. > >I have also noticed many simular names when digging through the 1900 >Census: Such as Trader, Hewitt, Flitcraft, and Fletcher. At least 2 or 3 >friends of mine can trace there roots to Accomack County. A very strange >coincedence. I was wondering if anyone knows a historical connection >between the 2 areas.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/oRB.2ACI/675 Message Board Post: I have been digging into my wife's family. And I noticed a strange connection. It seems many of the family's who live in Salem County, New Jersey (Which is where we live and once was refered to as Upper and Lower Penn's Neck) come from Accomack County, VA. In particular the islands. Her family contains Tarr's, Scott's, and Cugler's which have all moved to Jersey She has a cousin here, with the last name Bell, which also stems from Chincoteague. I have also noticed many simular names when digging through the 1900 Census: Such as Trader, Hewitt, Flitcraft, and Fletcher. At least 2 or 3 friends of mine can trace there roots to Accomack County. A very strange coincedence. I was wondering if anyone knows a historical connection between the 2 areas.

My grandmother's line of SMITH comes from Shenandoah, Page County VA, as I've traced her lines, they come from Page, Rockingham, Albermarle and Green Counties VA, since you mention several families moving up from VA to NJ, I thought I would let you know that my grandmother's parents settled in Pennsville, Salem County, NJ, in the early 1930's because my great grandfather took a better job at the DuPont plant in NJ. Perhaps that is the connection? Take care - Deb >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Does anyone know the connection............ >Date: 15 May 2003 09:31:14 -0600 >Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com ([207.40.200.39]) by >mc7-f37.law1.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Thu, 15 May >2003 08:34:22 -0700 >Received: (from [email protected])by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id >h4FFUuSn023875;Thu, 15 May 2003 09:30:56 -0600 >X-Message-Info: EoYTbT2lH2MsQxQLKd6QGpQxvU17UYmU >Resent-Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 09:30:56 -0600 >X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Thu May 15 09:30:54 2003 >Old-To: [email protected] >Sender: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 May 2003 15:31:14.0646 (UTC) >FILETIME=[05681F60:01C31AF7] >Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Resent-From: [email protected] >X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/1432 >X-Loop: [email protected] >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: [email protected] >Return-Path: [email protected] > >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/oRB.2ACI/675 > >Message Board Post: > >I have been digging into my wife's family. And I noticed a strange >connection. It seems many of the family's who live in Salem County, New >Jersey (Which is where we live and once was refered to as Upper and Lower >Penn's Neck) come from Accomack County, VA. In particular the islands. > >Her family contains Tarr's, Scott's, and Cugler's which have all moved to >Jersey > >She has a cousin here, with the last name Bell, which also stems from >Chincoteague. > >I have also noticed many simular names when digging through the 1900 >Census: Such as Trader, Hewitt, Flitcraft, and Fletcher. At least 2 or 3 >friends of mine can trace there roots to Accomack County. A very strange >coincedence. I was wondering if anyone knows a historical connection >between the 2 areas. > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

Looking for info on Amanda A. Givens, born NJ about 1848. In the 1870 census, she was married to Thomas M. Daisey, born 1846 in DE, and living in Gloucester City. Looking for parents, siblings, etc, of Amanda. Father's name might be Samuel, but not sure of that. Janet T. Smith Gloucester City, NJ [email protected]

In a message dated 5/8/03 9:22:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > The Miss America Organization is back in Salem County! The Miss Salem > County Scholarship Foundation under the directorship of Barbara McCarson > will be held in the fall, offering HUGE scholarships to county women! All > applicants must be female residents of Salem County, work in or go to > school in Salem County 17 to 24 years of age. We are looking for > contestants and scholarship donations of any amount. For more info write > back! > > Sorry, but this list is for Genealogy research only. Please read the heading on the Rootsweb page! Joan

I checked out the LDS site, did a Title search and found the following....Check it out, you may be able to review the films first. (The 1st two are film & the last is on fiche). Dave Title search by title: FRIESBURG EMANUEL LUTHERAN CHURCH Search results, ordered alphabetically by title ... Church records, 1749-1855, Emanuel Lutheran Church, Friesburg, New Jersey / Drews, Herman G. L Records of the Emanuel Evangelical Lutheran Church at Friesburg, Salem Co., New Jersey, 1726-1927, approx / Emanuel Evangelical Lutheran Church (Alloway Township, New Jersey) Translation of the Friesburg Emanuel Lutheran Church book / Friesburg Emanuel Lutheran Church (Friesburg, New Jersey) 3 matching titles. © 2000 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved. -----Original Message----- From: Malcolm Sharp <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, May 09, 2003 12:39 AM Subject: RE: German Lutheran Schoolmasters >RECORDS OF FRIESBURG EMANUEL LUTHERAN CHURCH, FRIESBURG, SALEM COUNTY NJ >- 1749-1851 >Translated from the German by the Rev. Herman G. L. Drews for the >Federal Historical Records Project, W.P A., in 1937, this work contains >thousands of baptisms, burials and marriages. Soft cover; 334pp.; index; >1984; Gloucester County Historical Society. $15.00 + $3.50 postage. > >The book indicates that the first schoolmaster was Jacob Laser and >mentions others: >Michael Dielshoefer, J. Kuhlmann, Ludwig/Louis Ilgen and Christian >Breymann. > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Malcolm Schalick Sharp > sharp.rootsweb.com >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > >-----Original Message----- >From: GEN-PICS [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 9:21 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: German Lutheran Schoolmasters > > >Are there any records from the Lutheran churches in Friesburg or >Cohensey which mention schoolmasters? Have any books on the history of >either of these churches ever been published? Thanks. Eleanor > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/oRB.2ACI/674 Message Board Post: The Miss America Organization is back in Salem County! The Miss Salem County Scholarship Foundation under the directorship of Barbara McCarson will be held in the fall, offering HUGE scholarships to county women! All applicants must be female residents of Salem County, work in or go to school in Salem County 17 to 24 years of age. We are looking for contestants and scholarship donations of any amount. For more info write back!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/oRB.2ACI/673 Message Board Post: John Hoffman b.1757-1760 was married to Sarah ?? in NJ abt. 1785. Their chilren were: John Jr. b.1786 in NJ, Coonradt "Charles" b. 1790 in NJ and Peter b.1794 in NJ. The family relocated to Ontario Co., NY and are shown in the 1800 census. Any information on this allusive family would be much appreciated. Thanks.

RECORDS OF FRIESBURG EMANUEL LUTHERAN CHURCH, FRIESBURG, SALEM COUNTY NJ - 1749-1851 Translated from the German by the Rev. Herman G. L. Drews for the Federal Historical Records Project, W.P A., in 1937, this work contains thousands of baptisms, burials and marriages. Soft cover; 334pp.; index; 1984; Gloucester County Historical Society. $15.00 + $3.50 postage. The book indicates that the first schoolmaster was Jacob Laser and mentions others: Michael Dielshoefer, J. Kuhlmann, Ludwig/Louis Ilgen and Christian Breymann. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Malcolm Schalick Sharp sharp.rootsweb.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -----Original Message----- From: GEN-PICS [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 9:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: German Lutheran Schoolmasters Are there any records from the Lutheran churches in Friesburg or Cohensey which mention schoolmasters? Have any books on the history of either of these churches ever been published? Thanks. Eleanor ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/oRB.2ACI/404.1.3 Message Board Post: Looking for someone related to Hymer's from Germany. There's a portrait of 3-brothers and 2-sisters, I believe dating back to the 1700-1800 (?).

Can anyone tell me where the Salem county Alms House was or is and if there are any records I can look at. Thank you, Leslie